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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: neme5i5 on August 03, 2005, 06:46:17 pm
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I\'ve read how to create a guild, now I want to know a little more. Advise, and explanations? Bodacher said I should plan allot first. What was he speaking to? (an experience?)
How do all of you see belonging to a guild? What part does the leader play in PS?
I have my own ideas, but this is my first MMORPG so most likely I\'m wrong... Can I have some wis\'ened insight, or hindsight will do.
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Heres thinkgs you need so noone flames the guild for not being thought out:
Ranks
Rank Description
History
Rules
Goals
a website
Forums
And anything extra I\'m sure other people will mention :)
Good luck.
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the website doesn\'t have to be big, a geocities cite will work if that\'s all you can get.
a leader is preaty much the person who makes the biggest decisions. (though the best guilds are democratic, they vote)
he let\'s people into the guild, kicks them out, answers to the gm for guild wrongdoings, blah blah blah
have fun.
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Look at some of guild discriptions to give yourself an insight into how; to be found in Guild section of the Forum. I suggest looking at the bigger long established guilds.
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such as the twin blades, dragon council, protectors.
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well.. the guild leader does not have to be the only one who kicks people out or invites people.. the most powerful part of being a guild leader is you set the permissions of each rank within your guild.. but yeah.. a good basis would be:
who?
what is the name of your guild? what kind of members will you have?
what?
what is your alignment? (good, neutral, evil) what is your guild\'s purpose? what can your guild provide for Planeshift and its players?
how?
how do you plan on organizing the guilds? how will you set up the ranks? will they be a ladder, or more like specialized categories for a certain type of player?
in addition to these, i suggest a nice little RP story of how your guild came to be..
-Easton
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Most importantly, remember that your guild should be founded on and should encourage role-playing. Also, be selective about your members. Dont\' make the mistake of recruting every guildless person you see (this can lead to having a lot of people despise you and your guild.) There is no strength in numbers here (unless you agree to a guild war, which I strongly recommend against), but there is strength in quality. There are far too many guilds already that exist only to help power levelers power level. Everyone in your guild needs to have a reason to be in your guild. In addition to the previously mentioned guilds, I recemmend looking into Explorers, The Felines Lair, and Swords of Ghent. These are, IMO, some of the best RP guilds around. (not that i\'ve actually looked into SOG myself but I\'ve spoken with Easton and I have a good feeling about them.)
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The most important thing in my opinion is to fit into the background (setting) and have a history.
Also members should have a comon goal and mass recruiting should be avoided. (there are sooo many guilds that do that). And one more thing... your guild shall not have intersections with real life and by saying that i mean that i\'ve noticed alot of wanabe guilds that have nothing to do with the world of Planeshift, beiing composed by members of a certain nationality and having a name like [player\'s country] (i tryed hard not to give any names here)
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If you want to see som guilds that have really lasted the test of time in Planeshift, check out Kada\'s Tavern (http://tavern.blueglyph.net/modules.php?name=Guilds). Each of those guilds has a webiste describing it\'s history, ranks, etc. There are many things you will want to do for a strong guild. I would suggest planning how you will orginaize your ranks, most guilds use a simple hierarchy with more members at lower ranks. The defenders are orginized differntly then the Cabal, who are different from the Feline\'s Lair, etc.
One thing to point out is that altho alignment is listed on that page, you don\'t have ot restrict yourself to that sterotype. Feel free to label your guild however you want.
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I\'ve managed my uni\'s research club, and what I found was all too often when things go wrong it\'s b/c of the tyrany of the many. (popularity) I envisioned a system of two leaders. the second being the ear for the members, and the primary keeping an eye on the business.
For example: A bit of in-fighting begins. The second calls a vote with the group to solve a problem, and popularity wins. The individule would lose, except the primary was wise to what was going on, and was paying attention as the pieces fell into place. Now at this point if it were deserved, then the primary would take no action. OTOH if it was the group that was wrong, then a veto would be called. No further action taken, and the issue dropped.
You can get caught up into people to such a degree that you lose sight of what you are out to accomplish. So if you split those duties the purpose can be rescued, and if made delecate, nobody\'s feelings hurt either.
This what you mean?
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(though the best guilds are democratic, they vote)
Hardly.
Anyway, it\'s up to you what kind of leadership you want in your guild. It\'s also up to you to get a good name for your guild (and yourself, neme5i5 is hardly a good name to roleplay with).
Make sure you check some promotional threads before you make your own, and do the same for your site.
There is no best way to make a guild, there\'s just the way you want your guild to be.
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There are a few qualities you must have to be a good leader. I am not going to list all of them but a few MUSTS that will keep your guild around. The leader(s) is the most important piece. Of course you want great supporters and whatnot... but in the end it wil most likely be a select group making all the decisions because the other members dont have time.
So you must be dedicated to what you do. Dedication is the key. Never give up on what you do... as long as it doesnt feel like a burden. Resilience is another important aspect tied to Dedication. Dont worry about what others say. If it is constructive critisism then use it the best you can... but dont listen to the nay sayers.
Never set anything in stone. Be able to change as the game changes. You will never be \"Finished\" with your guild. Constantly try to improve what you can. And this goes to you.... if you are the leader you have to be more active then anyone else in your guild. ITs the best way to keep good members and to acquire good members.
If you dont have the dedication then might as well not even create a guild. Just join an already established one. If I think of anything more ill post again later. Good Luck!!
Edit: Also look at numerous guild structures and sites to get new ideas. It ok to use the same ideas just dont take someone elses idenity.
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Originally posted by Ralas
In addition to the previously mentioned guilds, I recemmend looking into Explorers, The Felines Lair, and Swords of Ghent. These are, IMO, some of the best RP guilds around. (not that i\'ve actually looked into SOG myself but I\'ve spoken with Easton and I have a good feeling about them.)
*blushes*
aww.. i appreciate that Ralas.. yeah.. we\'re working on getting a website up.. sooner or later we\'ll get one.. but other things to take care of for now :)
-Easton
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I\'m not RPing as nemesis, if you bothered to look down on me as you already demonstrated you do. You\'d see I have a RPing name: Coal Bourne
Why must my forum/email match any char I should be inspired to create? Further more, in ye ol\' days a child was named after the father\'s occupation just in case you object any further.
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hmm Perhaps, but useally there was a saints first name before it as far as I have heared ;)
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I think its great that you are actually looking for information instead of just making a guild and then figuring it all out later. I think that you can do two things to being successful. You can either be cliche\' do what the other guilds are doing, which you can find just by reading. And secondly you can be origional, making a new creation. Be aware that some people might consider your idea bad, but that doesn\'t necessarily mean it is. Keep true to the ideas of your guild and you will be fine.. Also obviously some things are out of question, like making things that don\'t exist in PS, which you can learn by reading the PS history. That doesn\'t mean you can\'t make things like \"dragons\" in your history. It could tell tales of another world from whence you came, but remember such things don\'t exist in PS.
Good luck with your guild when you get it up and running - I look foreward to your ideas and to see your guild once it is done.
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politics, fighting, book worming ... there are some choices you need to make, the very soil of your guild.
You need to decide what you want your guild to be.
this is a very general stereo type, and is intended to be. you need a common \"way to play\" a purpose for devoting your time to online gaming
examples:
-A fighting guild (most guilds, ones that come t mind are IT, and mirth)
a fighting guild isn\'t necisaily a group of hard core hack and slashers, but rather people who play to \'adventure\' or to gain power, they enjoy the thrill of the hunt and conquoring objectives.
-scholar\'s guild(most notably, the knowledge seekers, and perhaps my guild, the Arcane-Order)
A scholar\'s guild is one who\'s more leaned towards sitting back, (not always RP!) doing something \"out of the ordinary\". these kinds are harder to put a abel and even \"scholar\" may not be precise,
(if you can tell i\'m coming to more conclusions as i write this)
so perhaps there are two guides of guilds, ordinary, and oddity.
neither are better than the other, its just a different style of play.
oh and your prolly stuck on the idea that an \'oddity\' guild is rp only, a good idea of one thats not so strict RP would perhaps be a casino guild, or ... a crafting guild (kudos to the late bloodcaw inc. :( )
alright with that premise done, now you decide what you want to do, the possibilities are endless. post a unique idea and see if we can give you more ideas.
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I have my ideas, and they are unique. Mine would fall closer to your\'s though. I was thinking about some sort of name including \"order\" somewhere.We\'ll come out with it in our time, let my friends, and some of my new PS companions come to some sort of consensus first.
It\'s the logistics I\'m worried about. Ideas I\'m full of. I have lots & lots of literature behind me. I know exactly the kind of members I want to attract, and I\'m not looking to red carpet to the world. Our membership will likely always be modest.
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Why should I care to look down at you twice? Once is enough. Names with numbers are almost as annoying as names in caps.
There\'s not much more advice anyone can give to you, since you\'ve read the Guild Creation thread and exchanged ideas with other guild members. Time to wish you good luck, and see if you can make it to Kada\'s list.
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i look neither up nor down, good luck and above all have fun.
welcome to planeshift :)
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If I could have went with \"nemesis\" I would have. The system didn\'t let me? I bet you just hate kuro5hin don\'t you?
You sir are a donkey.
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Who is kuro5hin? And why not choose the name Coal Bourne, if nemesis was already taken? Two questions I don\'t need answered. Since I hardly care.
I don\'t think it has been such a crime not reading your sig. Impatience is hardly a good trait in a leader. Unless you\'re looking for a guild with a good amount of enemies. If so, calling them donkeys isn\'t the best tatic either; they might not take you seriously. Aha, and that is unless you want to have a guild who has many enemies and is not taken seriously.
Anyway, let\'s avoid going into further off-topicness. I have no quarrels with you or your soon-to-be guild, well, not yet. It\'s possible you might want to avenge your numbery name or attempt at making me look you up, in the future. ^^
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Seems like I just caught you on an off day. Np your apology is accepted.
ps. it\'s gonna be rough ride until you get my sense of humor down. Hint: either a snappy Eddy Murphy quote, or a line from Monty Python was what was called for... You\'ll see I\'m carefull in my choice of words.
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Well, not the reply I was waiting for, but harmless enough.
Good luck with your guild.
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What were we waiting for?