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Support => Technical Help: IN GAME bugs (after loading world) => Topic started by: brenard on August 04, 2005, 02:38:44 pm

Title: black screens!!!!!!
Post by: brenard on August 04, 2005, 02:38:44 pm: black screens keep coming up everytime i open planeshift or setup of the updater and everything keeps getting overwritten!!!! its like having ten players standing in the exact same place on planeshift

someone please help me!
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Post by: brenard on August 04, 2005, 02:59:18 pm: WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL ME WHY THIS IS HAPPENING!!!
it saved a diagnostic file but when i submitted it it came back as unknown do you tink someone could analize it at all?
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Post by: Draconias on August 04, 2005, 03:08:32 pm: well its crashing consistently, as in every 5 minutes or so. Perhaps they are working on it.
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Post by: Suno_Regin on August 04, 2005, 06:11:42 pm: I\'m getting the same thing, my updater and game are completely black with words overlapping eachother, I can\'t even get ingame...
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Post by: Darkhack on August 04, 2005, 06:11:55 pm: Yes, the server is crashing and they are working on it. acraig said that the server is expierencing core dumps which cause psserver to crash. I can tell you right now that adding more exclamation points (!) to the end of your sentances won\'t help you get a response faster, nor fix the server.
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Post by: Suno_Regin on August 04, 2005, 06:24:36 pm: Heh, I can get ingame, but I can\'t do anything for character creation with all the words overlapping eachother
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Post by: Keyaz on August 04, 2005, 06:29:18 pm: I\'m trying to find a way around the black screen problem as i have it too, conventional methods found by using the search function arent working so far. hold on
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Post by: rayteon69 on August 04, 2005, 06:31:47 pm: ok good so im not the only one behind on this one does anyone not have this problem??
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Post by: Keyaz on August 04, 2005, 06:33:18 pm: ok can everyone with this problem put up their graphics card specs? and try updating drivers
Title: what will that do
Post by: brenard on August 04, 2005, 06:42:24 pm: what do you mean by put up your graphic card specs
Title: hope they fix it soon
Post by: Lord Thondal on August 04, 2005, 06:42:59 pm: when i start the game the whole shit crashes
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Keyaz on August 04, 2005, 06:44:28 pm: what cared do you have... jeez come on think for a minute it wont hurt!

my card is:

Geforce 4 mx440 SE 64mb

doesnt work with some higgher spec games randomly, but works with planeshift up until now fine, had updated drivers, just reinstalled updated drivers and am about to check if it works

EDIT: updating drivers doesnt seem to work either
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Post by: brenard on August 04, 2005, 07:14:38 pm: ive got Nvidia Geforce 2 mx
i think its 64mb
it works fine with everything that is new up until 2003.
eg. morrowind, neverwinter nights
it has worked perfectly with planeshift until now

it doesn\'t work with higher spec games.
eg. i tried playing area 51 and it was white.

you gotta be kidding me!!!!
noooooooooo
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Post by: Keyaz on August 04, 2005, 07:29:08 pm: Black screen problem is resolved by

...

:O

buying a better graphics card ;(
no im not joking, at first it was just some Radeon cards, also seems to be the lower end of geforce cards.

well, that screws it up for me
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Post by: Malicus on August 04, 2005, 08:19:57 pm: It seems to me that it\'s black as described in 32-bit mode, but in 16-bit mode, the problem seems to go away. Odd... So, is there anyone NOT having this problem?

By the way, I have an NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000, or at least that\'s what it says in the device manager.
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Post by: Darkhack on August 04, 2005, 08:28:20 pm: This is a crystal space problem. Forword this bug to them.
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Post by: gissamuel on August 04, 2005, 08:33:56 pm: I have a GEforce4MX 440 with AGP8X 128mb graphics card running on the older 69.99 type driver. Updating does not help.
I not only have black screens but the menus like ping server show up without touching the button and the skin menu for the setup shows up normal with colored background, but words stay whenever you close the menu. I have seen this before when toying with menu to play new games. I tried the methods I know to solve the problem, but it still did not work.
Title: OH MIGHTY MALICUS I PRAISE YOU
Post by: brenard on August 04, 2005, 08:34:19 pm: THX FOR THAT INFO I DIDNT THINK OF TRYING THAT
GISAMUEL TRY CHANGING TO 16 BIT
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Post by: Neryam on August 05, 2005, 02:28:27 am: This makes absolutely no sense. Demarthl I think you\'re wrong because I have INTEL 82852/82855 GM/GME Graphics controller 64bit.. :p

This cars screws up in Descent3, Roller Coaster Tycoon 3, and I dunno what else

But it works fine in PS. ?( The computer itself and the card and drivers ae less than a year old though. Mabye that means something.
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Post by: Keyaz on August 05, 2005, 02:48:36 am: did i say your freaky ass sounding intel thingy dowap da jiggy card didnt work?

i dont think i did, i said some radeons do it and by the looks of it some low end geforce mx4**\'s
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Post by: rayteon69 on August 05, 2005, 03:11:12 am: NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 with newest drivers uploaded
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Post by: Neryam on August 05, 2005, 03:11:27 am: Ah. But you\'d think even a low end nvidia or raedon would b better than an intel..

Besides, it worked before the update right?
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Post by: rayteon69 on August 05, 2005, 03:15:12 am: worked before update ...

got it working everone with this problem try changing to 16 bit

if you do not know how to go to my my computer and display and it should be under the last tab
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Post by: rayteon69 on August 05, 2005, 03:21:03 am: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh now its not loading does this have anything to do with the problem?? or is this an idepedent problem

When i open the game it woulnt load
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Post by: pigottsm on August 05, 2005, 03:34:41 am: changing to 16 bit worked for me but now i get around 1 fps
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Post by: camp on August 05, 2005, 05:50:52 am: I too have had this problem...

It was resolved for me by going into the windows display settings, and setting the hardware acceleration to \"none\".

Hope this helps.
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Post by: camp on August 05, 2005, 06:02:17 am: Actually, it looked like it was going to work,
then it froze on an error...\"Memory cannot be written..\" or the like.

NVIDIA GeForce4 MX4000----
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Post by: rayteon69 on August 05, 2005, 06:11:21 am: i dont even have that option
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Post by: Gyenie on August 05, 2005, 10:27:32 am: Same problem GeForce4 MX 420. Changing to 16-bit works but sooner or later ends up in 1 fps in the game. For me, 32-bit works in the game, at least for the 3D graphics. The downside is that you can\'t see some of the 2d graphics like the graphics of the panels so you don\'t get some of the buttons etc...

So I get to choose: 1 fps or missing graphics. :/

I hope developers can find the problem and fix it, wasn\'t like this before. Other than that the update was good. ;)

EDIT:
I poked around a little in the r3dopengl.cfg file, uncommenting ( removing the ; ) from this line seems to help, but then the 3d looks messed up instead:
Video.OpenGL.UseExtension.GL_ARB_multitexture = false
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Post by: acraig on August 05, 2005, 04:23:57 pm: I will try to download the client onto my laptop that is running windows and see if I can get similar behaviour.
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Post by: Talamir on August 05, 2005, 09:33:18 pm: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X

I always get the bad bugs \"(
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Post by: gupgohanss5 on August 05, 2005, 10:33:57 pm: Nvidia GeForce4, gonna try my mx 4000 soon
Title: Help?
Post by: arcane_mysts on August 06, 2005, 06:20:00 am: I just downloaded the game, and I\'m having the same problem... except the screen is completely white. You can\'t see the mouse button or anything... Is it the same thing?
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Post by: jorrit on August 06, 2005, 11:59:14 am: Quote
Originally posted by Darkhack
This is a crystal space problem. Forword this bug to them.

Actually I\'m not 100% sure this is a CS problem. I also have exactly the same problem on my computer (using a GF4Go) but Crystal Space works perfectly fine. I\'m currently investigating what exactly is going on so hopefully I\'ll find the cause of the problem soon.

Greetings,
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Post by: ThomPhoenix on August 06, 2005, 07:11:04 pm: Thanks Jorrit, I\'m having the same problem on my Geforce 4 MX.
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Post by: jorrit on August 06, 2005, 08:34:55 pm: Ok I have managed to fix it locally. Add the following two lines to data/config/r3dopengl.cfg:

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Video.OpenGL.UseExtension.GL_ARB_texture_rectangle = false
Video.OpenGL.UseExtension.GL_NV_texture_rectangle = false

For me this makes everything perfect. Let me know how it goes for you.

Greetings,
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Post by: camp on August 06, 2005, 09:19:58 pm: Jorrit-

After entering those lines, mine worked normally. Thanks.
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Post by: Gyenie on August 06, 2005, 09:51:53 pm: Works here aswell, thanks Jorrit! :)
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Post by: ThomPhoenix on August 07, 2005, 12:09:19 am: Works for me too! Thank you Jorrit!
I\'ll post it in other topics too.
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Post by: Darkhack on August 07, 2005, 12:32:07 am: Quote
Originally posted by jorrit
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Originally posted by Darkhack
This is a crystal space problem. Forword this bug to them.

Actually I\'m not 100% sure this is a CS problem. I also have exactly the same problem on my computer (using a GF4Go) but Crystal Space works perfectly fine. I\'m currently investigating what exactly is going on so hopefully I\'ll find the cause of the problem soon.

Greetings,

Hmm... interesting. I am glad you were able to find a fix though! I was probebly too quick to assume it was CS but I assumed the problem lied within CS because it is a rendering issue.

Also will this fix become default in the next update of Planeshift?
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Post by: TheMinority on August 07, 2005, 02:50:04 am: fixed it for me too. looks like we won\'t have to get new drivers!
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Post by: Leeloo on August 07, 2005, 10:55:22 am: Quote
Originally posted by Darkhack
Also will this fix become default in the next update of Planeshift?

Checking for it would be a better idea, if it\'s possible. Not everyone has a crap nVidia board.
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Post by: Darkhack on August 07, 2005, 11:14:04 am: Quote
Originally posted by Leeloo
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Originally posted by Darkhack
Also will this fix become default in the next update of Planeshift?

Checking for it would be a better idea, if it\'s possible. Not everyone has a crap nVidia board.

That\'s true, but I wouldn\'t see any real disadvantage to non-nvidea users of having these settings as default. Maybe pssetup could include a \"nvidea gfx\" checkbox and you could check/uncheck as needed.

Also is this a bug with nvidea or not? A developer that knows more about rendering and stuff might want to tell nvidea what graphics function they used that caused this effect and let them know and maybe they can release an updated driver.
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Post by: jorrit on August 07, 2005, 11:45:03 am: Quote
Originally posted by Leeloo
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Originally posted by Darkhack
Also will this fix become default in the next update of Planeshift?

Checking for it would be a better idea, if it\'s possible. Not everyone has a crap nVidia board.

The way we will solve this in Crystal Space is by adding an entry to our driver/card database (data/config/gldrivers.xml) so that we can only disable those extensions on crappy GF4Go/440 cards :-)

Greetings,
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Post by: davewb on August 07, 2005, 04:42:37 pm: I have been experiencing this fault on my PS installation on a Linux PC with this type of NVidia card and 1.0-7667 driver. I was directed to this thread from the PS Linux Forum, but your extra two lines for the config file did not fix it for me.

Just thought I\'d mention it!
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Post by: Leeloo on August 07, 2005, 07:35:53 pm: Did you put it in both files? For some reason there are two of them on a Linux install, and I don\'t know which of them is used.
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Post by: davewb on August 07, 2005, 08:05:39 pm: Dang it! I didnt know there was 2 of them.

Of course, PS uses the other one it uses; the one in planeshift/CS/data/config.

Now its working, thanks.

Dave
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Post by: Elghag on August 18, 2005, 06:21:25 pm: Ok, so I am the only one that this didn\'t work for? Grrrrr!!! Anything special I have to think about when I write it?