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Support => Mac OSX Specific Issues => Topic started by: provisionist1 on August 04, 2005, 06:44:10 pm

Title: Read this before posting!!!
Post by: provisionist1 on August 04, 2005, 06:44:10 pm
This is to all the newbies out there, it seems with 3.011 and \"Crystal Frozen Blue\" we have many new people.

Yes, the Server is back up, but the Mac Client has not been finished yet

Let me explain: The game is designed for PCs, so when a new client (this one is 3.011) is built, the PC users are able to immediately update when the server is finished updating. Macs use a different code than PCs, so we have to wait for Dfryer (the resident mac guru) to re-write the PC code so it works for the Mac.

He may take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks to do this, it depends on the new client and how many changes there are.

So, the client will not work on the mac, yet.

Please be patient, Dfryer is doing all this for free[/size][/color]. Athough I am sure he will welcome cash, cheque, money order, paypal, a dual 2.7 ghz power G5 or your souls, I don\'t think this will make him get it done any faster either. Patience.

Thanks for your attention, I too hope it gets finished soon.

Thanks Dfryer for all your hard work, I look forward to the new client.

Xirius
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Post by: Siegheart on August 04, 2005, 07:11:26 pm
Sigh... I got my hopes up for nothing... Aww man, the game looks so great I just want to play!!! ARGH!
Thanks for the information anyway. ^.^
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Post by: Miya on August 05, 2005, 03:01:34 am
as a point of fact the code is the same for mac and PC (or rather, the mac specific code has already been written into the Crystal Space engine, and the planeshift code is the same for mac/pc), dfryer has to *build* the mac client, which, if everything is working, should NOT take weeks. what happens is that dfryer is busy and the code generally breaks on the mac half the time and requires patches, which do take weeks.

Judging from a recent OSX build of CS as of cvs one hour ago, which crashes walktest on startup, I\'m guessing it will take a while.

-Miya

[edit: I mean breaks on the mac here to mean that bugs in the code are exposed on the mac]
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Post by: Sikarda on August 05, 2005, 12:54:06 pm
Thank fors the update provisionist1!  :)

And a big thanks to all who are working on the Mac Update!
Your time and effort is much appreciated.
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Post by: Pedro on August 06, 2005, 04:56:10 am
Yes, your time and effort is much appreciated...

Just HURRY UP :P
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Post by: Cha0s on August 06, 2005, 06:49:47 am
Now now, don\'t rush him. Dfryer will be done soon. Just be patient.
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Post by: Pedro on August 06, 2005, 07:37:39 am
I wanna kill some rats though :( :D
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Post by: Kias on August 06, 2005, 08:19:14 am
Kill rats? *tut tut*

I want to kick back in front of the fire in Kada-El\'s with a couple of guild mates and spin some yarns about my explorations of The Stone Labrynth. :)

Thanks for all the work you put into this Dfryer...I\'m grateful to have had the chance to play Planeshift at all, so waiting for a week or two won\'t kill me :D
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Post by: Cha0s on August 06, 2005, 08:33:03 am
You\'ll be happy to know that there are bugs in the current release, including zone-changing bugs, shortcuts firing while chatting, and several others. In other words, PS probably isn\'t that much fun to play right now anyway. In addition, the random loot generator is also a bit broken (i.e. rats drop varying falchions all the time). In short, you\'re not missing much.

The above information courtesy of a nice IRC chat. ;)
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Post by: Kias on August 06, 2005, 08:39:01 am
Hehe, I feel a bit better now. Thanks Cha0s :)
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Post by: Moogie on August 06, 2005, 08:55:12 am
What\'s this \"Frozen\"?
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Post by: Mr. Sandman on August 06, 2005, 10:04:59 am
As much as I completely worship Dfryer for being able to translate the PC code into mac code, it seems like I haven\'t played PS for a year. I started following the scene around 0.3.006, when I downloaded it from apple.com and it immediately crashed on startup. Then, I downloaded 0.3.009 a while later, and played it until they updated the server. When 0.3.010 was released, I was sure to download it, only to find that the Laanx server didn\'t work, and now it\'s incompatible. Despite the talk of bugs, I think it\'s great that DFryer and all the PS team are out there to create a Freeware, Opensource MMORPG with no monthly fees.
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Post by: provisionist1 on August 07, 2005, 01:53:14 am
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Originally posted by Moogie
What\'s this \"Frozen\"?


Oh?... That was what it was called at Kada\'s Tavern Site on a news update. Suppose information gathered there may always be a bit sketchy. It was posted by Cad. Hmmmm.

I agree with you ChaOs, it seems that the world is really whacked at the moment. I worry though that newbies will be more powerful than me when I get back, from them earning thousands of tria in a go, then training. Maybe we need a second wipe when the mac client is up. Yeah, wishful thinking.

Xirius

P.S. Mr. Sandman, we\'d love you to join us here, just keep checking the forums, I hope Dfryer will get it done soon.
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Post by: Cha0s on August 07, 2005, 02:11:23 am
They need a second wipe anyway. People with thousands of trias from the falchion-dropping rats have a huge advantage. :\\
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Post by: r.guppy on August 07, 2005, 02:26:31 am
A big thums up to all the mac team, and the rest as without them no mac vershion.
PS: borrow a pc laptop i did   :)
love the game, well done all.
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Post by: Sikarda on August 07, 2005, 09:14:58 am
@ ChaOs - Do you know what the approximate size the Mac Client File might be? :)
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Post by: Cha0s on August 07, 2005, 06:19:23 pm
Same as before, I\'d assume, so somewhere around 30 MB (just for the Mac Client). The whole package will probably be around 300 or more (with new artwork).
Title: so does anyone have the eta now
Post by: kevman on August 08, 2005, 06:48:56 am
does anyone know when dryfer will be done, i want to know so i can rest in peace knowin all the other mac users wont get a head start on me
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Post by: Sikarda on August 08, 2005, 09:55:02 am
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Same as before, I\'d assume, so somewhere around 30 MB (just for the Mac Client). The whole package will probably be around 300 or more (with new artwork).


@ Chaos - I have Version 0.3.010, will I need to download the whole package or ?.
Sorry if this a \'lame/annoying\' question, just trying to budget my bandwidth usage. :)
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Post by: hramrach on August 08, 2005, 01:14:19 pm
Where are the falchion dropping rats? I want to see a golden falchion, I wonder how it looks like :)
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Post by: Kias on August 08, 2005, 01:30:03 pm
@ Sikarda - If you downloaded the big 3.010 version (I think 200mb+) then all you\'ll need to do is use the updater (which works already so download the updated files) then download the client (30mb) when Dfryer has got it ready. :)
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Post by: provisionist1 on August 08, 2005, 06:34:57 pm
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Originally posted by kevman
does anyone know when dryfer will be done, i want to know so i can rest in peace knowin all the other mac users wont get a head start on me


Don\'t worry, you will know when it is done. If you look in past posts, there is usually a large postings of \"Thank You Thank You\" when it comes up. And dfryer, we are all eternally grateful to you...

According to ChaOs, a few more days.

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Originally posted by hamrach
Where are the falchion dropping rats? I want to see a golden falchion, I wonder how it looks like


Totally wrong forum, none of us have seen the new client or a golden falchion.

Xirius
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Post by: r.guppy on August 08, 2005, 07:27:36 pm
i agree wrong forum.
i am on pc at moment you are not missing much.(my sons)
infact loads of server maintainance,fixes,tweaking,harder to get PP.
on bright side, loads more loot and most monsters drop.
gold ones look same as a normal Falchion but gold colour,slighty better hit,sells for more tria.

Here is a pic of the Gold Falchions in use :)
(http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/3581/shot039qj.th.jpg) (http://img304.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot039qj.jpg)
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Post by: Sikarda on August 09, 2005, 06:12:34 am
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@ Sikarda - If you downloaded the big 3.010 version (I think 200mb+) then all you\'ll need to do is use the updater (which works already so download the updated files) then download the client (30mb) when Dfryer has got it ready.


@ Kias - Thanks for info. :)
Ok, so I can update now using the updater in my PS folder? (this updater is the original one i recieved when I first went through the whole set-up and up-dating process, my client and updater both say 0.3.007 in the folder, but when starting up the PS app, it reads 0.3.010 and it works sweet as), then just standby for the client?

Thanks in advance mate! :)
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Post by: Kias on August 09, 2005, 06:38:31 am
Yeah, just run the updater and it should get all the updated files. Do that and all you\'ll need afterwards is the client from Dfryer and you\'re good to go :D
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Post by: Sikarda on August 09, 2005, 07:03:56 am
Originally posted by: visionteller[/i]

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I run the updater this morning (just curiosity) and i got this message
\"new updater cant be fetched since your os isnt yet supported for automatic updating. you should be able to fetch and install it manually either from the mainsite or the forums\"
can you explain that to me please


I get the same message?

EDIT: Updating now! thanks Kias
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Post by: dying_inside on August 11, 2005, 11:08:02 am
back again .  gonna  run around plane shift etc.  fun for all. been away  at unreal2k4  and a few other games.   so updatey and wipe eh ? . should be cool. i did up date but as the  patch is not finished it says not the correct version alas.  or at least im guessing thats why its saying that .
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Post by: dfekt!!! on August 22, 2005, 08:53:30 pm
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Originally posted by provisionist1
This is to all the newbies out there, it seems with 3.011 and \"Crystal Frozen Blue\" we have many new people.

Yes, the Server is back up, but the Mac Client has not been finished yet

Let me explain: The game is designed for PCs, so when a new client (this one is 3.011) is built, the PC users are able to immediately update when the server is finished updating. Macs use a different code than PCs, so we have to wait for Dfryer (the resident mac guru) to re-write the PC code so it works for the Mac.

He may take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks to do this, it depends on the new client and how many changes there are.

So, the client will not work on the mac, yet.

Please be patient, Dfryer is doing all this for free[/size][/color]. Athough I am sure he will welcome cash, cheque, money order, paypal, a dual 2.7 ghz power G5 or your souls, I don\'t think this will make him get it done any faster either. Patience.

Thanks for your attention, I too hope it gets finished soon.

Thanks Dfryer for all your hard work, I look forward to the new client.

Xirius


I\'ve downloaded every one (4 of them), and non of all those will work!
All i get is this message; this version of planeshift wont work on this forum,
so i try to update and if i push the button to start it just closes the window without any progress! All of the downloads i did had the same outcome... I\'ve searched everything (i think) and still can\'t find the right download...
I would realy want some advice please. :( n00b dfekt!!!
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Post by: Kim on August 22, 2005, 10:27:05 pm
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Originally posted by dfekt!!!

I\'ve downloaded every one (4 of them), and non of all those will work!
All i get is this message; this version of planeshift wont work on this forum,
so i try to update and if i push the button to start it just closes the window without any progress! All of the downloads i did had the same outcome... I\'ve searched everything (i think) and still can\'t find the right download...
I would realy want some advice please. :( n00b dfekt!!!


Please read Cha0s\' Guide (http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=14416&boardid=32&styleid=4&sid=b396904196a97b327325a9117753fe12) to running Planeshift on Mac. You have to download his Updater.jar file, copy it to your Planeshift folder and use that to update your client, not the Updater. app in your folder.

This still doesn\'t guarantee that it will work though. The Mac client still has bugs that have to be worked out. You may have to wait for the total 3.011 package to be finished. Cha0s and dfryer are working on it, so please be patient. It\'s a lot of work and they have lives too. Posting all over the forums about it won\'t make it get fixed faster.
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Post by: Cha0s on August 25, 2005, 03:51:45 am
Couldn\'t have said it better myself, Kim. I\'m looking for dfryer and we\'ll try to get an updated client together (I don\'t know how to build the dependencies or I\'d do it myself ;) ). dfekt: Read stickies! And now, iLock, I think. Down with clutter!