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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Neryam on August 27, 2005, 03:16:56 am
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We are the Guild Knights.
[HISTORY]
In Production :P
[OUR GOALS AND BELIEFS]
Sirunie Looseye started this guild with the belief that there must be a guild that anybody can turn to, to go to for help and to be able to trust. He started a mission to create a guild of Knights, with the honor and loyalty that Knights represent, not the weapons or power. He wanted a guild where power has no meaning, only honor and honesty.
The name Guild Knights come from the hope and dream that this guild will not only be a guild that people can turn to, but other Guilds too. Us Guild Knights are meant to serve the world and all the rainbow of guilds and people that populate it. As in \"Knight of the Guilds\", \"Guild of Knights\"; the name means both and all.
To be a Guild Knight is to help where help is needed, to support good causes and to bring even the lowliest farmhand into a person worthy to be King. To be a Guild Knight is to become a person who anyone can trust, anyone can talk to, anyone can look up to, anyone can join.
That is our dream and goal, and may it be upheld.
To summarize:
The largest and most central point of our guild is sharing. We share money, weapons and information, fellowship and help. We also make a point to donate to newblets and help them along.
We are not a mass-recruiting guild, we are a guild that helps newblets and makes them great. Already we have at least 5 members that were only brand new players a few weeks ago who are now great warriors!
All Guild Knights must be courteous and polite, as well as sharing. New members will be given tools of the trade at our discretion and help and support, and in return we ask them to help new members themselves later when they are strong. Members are strongly encouraged to talk in guildchat as there are not many other ways to monitor behaivior.
[OUR RANKS]
Apprentice
Knight
Brown Knight
Red Knight
Azure Knight
Crystal Knight
Arch Knight (Inviting Power)
Knight Avatar (2nd in command, All Permissions)
And Sirunie Looseye, our guild leader.
All members have power to view and use GuildChat.
[OTHER INFO]
We have a great number of guild activities and quests, and all memebrs are encouraged to join them. We often group up as a guild and go monster hunting and to the arena. And sometimes, although rarely, there are guild wars that we enter.
We have a website, although it is quite.. haphazard and useless. It is only temporary; the website is in production under 3 professional web designers in our guild :D
The temporary website: http://www.guildknights.tk
What else was there.. oh yes, we are NOT anti-DC. There are just a fair number of DC-haters in our guild that\'s all.. :rolleyes:
We have a teamspeak channel at 72.128.5.113. ( Get teamspeak at http://www.teamspeak.org )
[CONTACT]
PLEASE CONTACT US IMMEDIATELY IF YOU SEE A RUDE OR OFFENSIVE GUILD KNIGHT. IT MEANS OUR REPUTATION AND IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE THAT WE KNOW!
To join us or contact us (about the rude Knights also) send a tell to one:
Sirunie
Antra
Aurora
That\'s it for now.
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Interesting :)
Originally posted by Neryam
All members have power to view and use GuildChat, and they can also invite.
I would suggest that this is a bad idea. I know that you are just beginning, but some sort of recruitment policy should be thought out. Have guidelines as to what kind of members you are looking for, and make sure that those who have the power to invite, have the right judgment to invite the right people. Also, having everyone be able to invite anyone can make keeping up with new members a hard task. But it can work. Whichever you choose, good luck!
Odd choice of name, though. Guild Knights... Why not just Knights? Or The Knights? Or Guild Of Knights? Personally I think the wording could be better ^^ But eh.
What is your alignment? Good, as I originally assumed, or neutral?
And sometimes, although rarely, there are guild wars that we enter.
May I ask how this happens? Do you wage war on triffle matters, or does another guild really have to go against your belief system to bring a war? Also, Knights brings about thoughts of defending something, in my mind. Do you protect anything, besides members of the guild? Are you for hire by others? Where do your loyalties lay outside the guild?
Just a few questions ;)
Nice start, though!
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I mean no disrespect, but I was recently issued a blind invite to your guild. When i asked the guy how he knew I was the right kind of person, he just ran off. We all know that blind recruting is not against the rules, but it is annoying and is frowned upon, for good reason. If you don\'t beleive in mass recruiting, (for which I salute you) then you need to have a talk with some of your ranks.
Aside from that necessary nastiness, I wish your guild good luck.
EDIT: typos, arg
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I would suggest that this is a bad idea. I know that you are just beginning, but some sort of recruitment policy should be thought out. Have guidelines as to what kind of members you are looking for, and make sure that those who have the power to invite, have the right judgment to invite the right people. Also, having everyone be able to invite anyone can make keeping up with new members a hard task. But it can work. Whichever you choose, good luck!
Odd choice of name, though. Guild Knights... Why not just Knights? Or The Knights? Or Guild Of Knights? Personally I think the wording could be better ^^ But eh.
What is your alignment? Good, as I originally assumed, or neutral?
Well actually we are not really just beginning, the recruitment thing is the way sirunie wants it. :rolleyes: I personally think at least the Novices should not be able to invite, but meh.. We will see.
And our memebers are NOT supposed to blind invite, so that answers your thing Ralas. I\'ll check it out.. ;)
And about the name.. I don\'t know. I guess it just sounded slick? :P
Our alignment would be True Good..
May I ask how this happens? Do you wage war on triffle matters, or does another guild really have to go against your belief system to bring a war? Also, Knights brings about thoughts of defending something, in my mind. Do you protect anything, besides members of the guild? Are you for hire by others? Where do your loyalties lay outside the guild?
As I said, it rarely happens. The only war I know about is that publicized one with the Chosen Few.. I believe that was because of Noxide being incredibly rude and challenging our new memebrs or something, some large dispute. So it was anger or something along that line. But It lasted for only a number of minutes (I think; I had to leave)
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What stupid suggestions.
The Guild Knights are a fun and helpful guild for new players. If you\'re an older player who wants to help others, joining Guild Knights is a good way to accomplish your goals. That\'s really all there is to it.
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the problem with this guild is that you start a guild war and then half your members start crying that people kill them...
for to be a real guild you need to have some discussion about these matters that affect the whole guild, also it sounds like mass promotion blah blah thing.
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What? How do you know they start crying that other people kill them? El contriare, they scream for us to tell them where the battle is taking place! :rolleyes:
also it sounds like mass promotion blah blah thing.
What does? ?(
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Our alignment would be True Good..
No, this is the kind of guild that has no alignment. Because it\'s not a roleplay guild. Sharing is not a goal, even if it\'s a good belief, when properly backed up with some kind of in character explanation.
If it\'s your objective to interact with roleplaying guilds, it\'s my opinion you become one yourself.
However, if you play the game with the purpose of a powerleveler, then your guild is just perfect.
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I really think you should start reading other guild threads on this forum. That should help some. There are some things that your opening post is just missing... like a history and it could be made more coherent. Also no need to put that part \"Not anti DC\". Not very many people like them here anyway :). And I would think about changing your guild name. Basically because it has the word Guild in it. I guess that is just personal preference... to me it just sounds weird. Hmm.. anything else??? Ahh.. yeah, your ranks are also a bit weird. I know they are not exactly the same but your botton three classes. Novice, Apprentice and Page, are quite similar in meaning especially Page and Apprentice.
well, good luck, and just remember your guild is never finished. Keep on working friend.
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Umm yeah about those ranks, they have changed now. I forget what they are but a few have been changed. Oh, and I am Zaknefein the Jokester and an Arch Knight of the Guild Knights. Just a bit of info I thought I would share while I\'m on here...
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Originally posted by Neryam
As I said, it rarely happens. The only war I know about is that publicized one with the Chosen Few.. I believe that was because of Noxide being incredibly rude and challenging our new memebrs or something, some large dispute. So it was anger or something along that line. But It lasted for only a number of minutes (I think; I had to leave)
Er... I remember clearly being grouped with you an Sirunie talking about the war an you said something along the lines of \"Noway cant we do the war tomorrow I have to go now\"
An im sure I or any of my guild can dig out the grouped chat logs :P
lol, quit swimming in water that\'s out your depth...
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The war went out of hand because people, not just The Chosen Few, were fighting out of agreed bounds... That is past, so leave it behind. Forget it or it will just create more anger and take the fun out of the game... Let\'s get on with our lives and keep playing.
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Actually Neryam is correct. Noxide is very rude. he was rude with me ingame telling me how I should not be an advisor... I eventually had to put him on my ignore list because he was treating me as if I was the noob in the situation. I personally am still upset about it. So, I assume what Neryam says is correct about him..
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I have noticed he is actually only mean to members of Guild Knights.... I have never seen him be mean to anyone else, though I\'m sure it has happened, but he is a nice guy, and he helps noobs like other people do... I think that if we both just leave each other alone, we will be fine.... I am on no one\'s side, I would just rather no one got pissy at someone else for god knows what reasons...
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hmm, it may be me but i thought this was the guild thread not the noxide thread... cause meh you might as well create one.
An that was a long time ago... an you know the reason i said that, remember watching.. (I wont name who),finish a session then you answer to \"OK thanks\" or something along those lines, after he said he was logging to change alts to help... an please dont make me quote your post :P because you did make one after I sent you the /tell saying whatever I happend to say too you blagging AP
What is it with some of you.. Get over your issuse please if you have something to voice at least be able to back it up!
ps
I was serious about the noxide thread
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Actually no I did not answer to that but I have seen you do it many times. Thats why I sent you that last tell messgage about it being a good question for you to answer. Someone said \"I hope that\" in the box and yes I did take that one.. but because I thought there was some continuation to that idea. You act like others are cheaters when I have seen you do all too often. You are one of the reasons I dont get ingame as often because frankly I dont want to ever see you and you play all day. But thats enough for now.. I wont do this on someone elses thread.
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hmm? Interesting, /me chuckles to himself
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Umm yeah.... I think we are getting a little bit out of hand here... And like I said before, just leave the past be.... If he annoys you, ignore him... He is rude to many in my guild, but I just don\'t listen to him.... It seems childish, but the other choice is to get angry about it and start getting pissed at each other... If everyone would stop fighting it would be a much better game.
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Yes let\'s be nice. I don\'t know about the detains but Noxide is friendly to me so.. Just some info.
Update: Ranks were edited to be up-to-date
I didn\'t put history or anything like that in the opening post because:
1) I didn\'t want to type it.
2) Even though I am Knight Avatar, I didn\'t want to make up the whole history and stick it up.
3) Its kinda useless, although interesting.
4) The post was already pretty long and I put up things that were more useful in favor of the history.
:D
Originally posted by Sangwa
No, this is the kind of guild that has no alignment. Because it\'s not a roleplay guild. Sharing is not a goal, even if it\'s a good belief, when properly backed up with some kind of in character explanation.
If it\'s your objective to interact with roleplaying guilds, it\'s my opinion you become one yourself.
However, if you play the game with the purpose of a powerleveler, then your guild is just perfect.
Well that was rude.. :rolleyes:
So youre saying that groups of people never share things between them? That an order of knights never lends/gives swords to each other to replace lost ones or have a pool of money whice is given to those in need?
No offence, but I think youre quite wrong.
And about the name... YES lots of people say its weird to have \"Guild\" as part of the name.. I know, I don\'t know why its called that. I wonder the same thing.
Go ask sirunie in-game ;)
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Interesting how you quoted my post and yet seemed not to read it.
I said nothing against groups of people who share things. In fact I told you it\'s a good belief when backed up with the proper information.
I was just saying your guild lacks roleplay content. And that\'s not being rude, it\'s criticizing.
The point is, your guild is missing some information in order to be a good roleplay guild: How and why did the guild appear in Yliakum? What are your goals? How do you pretend to reach those goals?
A background story and a set of goals are big contributions to make your guild more roleplay like.
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Alright then.. If it\'s so important I will make up a large History of the Guild Knights. :D
But not today, as I have to go to bed.. :(
Andway, Sorry bout that but your post seemed to bash our guild as a PLing guild soo..
Just cause I didn\'t write up a history? :rolleyes:
And our goals are listed in the first post.
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Information is crucial in roleplay.
And a guild where one of the leaders doesn\'t understand the reason of the guild name doesn\'t seem a very well-thought guild to me.
It\'s impossible to roleplay something if you don\'t know the role you\'re supposed to play.
Helping \"newblets\" and sharing are not valid roleplay goals, in the way I see it.
Unless newblets is some kind of race and the part you\'re living in hydlaa is so uncivilised that your guild is the only one trying to share.
Don\'t take this critics as offensive. If I had anything against you or your guild I wouldn\'t be fighting you in the forums.
I\'m simply stating my opinion and clarifying it, since you hadn\'t fully understood it yet.
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Originally posted by Sangwa
Interesting how you quoted my post and yet seemed not to read it.
I said nothing against groups of people who share things. In fact I told you it\'s a good belief when backed up with the proper information.
I was just saying your guild lacks roleplay content. And that\'s not being rude, it\'s criticizing.
The point is, your guild is missing some information in order to be a good roleplay guild: How and why did the guild appear in Yliakum? What are your goals? How do you pretend to reach those goals?
A background story and a set of goals are big contributions to make your guild more roleplay like.
lol Sangwa; how different you arguments are when they are not aimed at me ;)
Well anyways I agree with you on this one, besides all I have ever seen any of the Guild Knights do in game is power level and bug abuse.
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Hey, hey, hey.... With you guys seeming so interested in the good of our guild, why don\'t ya help us reform it? Now I\'m not trying to be rude, but I am trying to be logical. If I seem rude, I am very sorry, and please tell me. Seriously make suggestions with a bit more detail if you wish to help... And don\'t worry, I\'m a good writer and will get started on the history and stuff as soon as I can Antra. Everybody just take the time to read and absorb the information of the other peoples\' posts. Once again, I take no sides, but I try to calm people down and release tension. Now Sangwa is right about us needing to clarify our goals and the story behind them. We will speak with Sirunie about it sometime. Remember, be as polite as humanly possible when posting to avoid heated conversations.
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It\'s normal to be criticised when you post a guild thread. And since it\'s a public forum, you won\'t be getting much help. Just opinions and critics (which count as help, the way I see it).
You must understand that it\'s hard to give you any detailed information without bluntly telling you what to do. The only thing we can do is point out what\'s missing and what\'s not right.
It wouldn\'t help you if we patted your back and told you everything\'s right, \'cause it would be lying.
I can\'t see the reason for a \"chill-out\" post on this thread, but it\'s good to know that there\'s some one concerned with the forum\'s well being.
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Originally posted by Drey
the problem with this guild is that you start a guild war and then half your members start crying that people kill them...
for to be a real guild you need to have some discussion about these matters that affect the whole guild, also it sounds like mass promotion blah blah thing.
Are you saying we shouldn\'t invite people who are new? That\'s pretty stupid if you are suggesting that.
Originally posted by Valbrandr
I really think you should start reading other guild threads on this forum. That should help some. There are some things that your opening post is just missing... like a history and it could be made more coherent. Also no need to put that part \"Not anti DC\". Not very many people like them here anyway :). And I would think about changing your guild name. Basically because it has the word Guild in it. I guess that is just personal preference... to me it just sounds weird. Hmm.. anything else??? Ahh.. yeah, your ranks are also a bit weird. I know they are not exactly the same but your botton three classes. Novice, Apprentice and Page, are quite similar in meaning especially Page and Apprentice.
well, good luck, and just remember your guild is never finished. Keep on working friend.
I don\'t think that\'s such a priority for them.... they\'re (we\'re?) about having fun, and not about taking themselves (ourselves?) too seriously.
Originally posted by Valbrandr
Actually Neryam is correct. Noxide is very rude. he was rude with me ingame telling me how I should not be an advisor... I eventually had to put him on my ignore list because he was treating me as if I was the noob in the situation. I personally am still upset about it. So, I assume what Neryam says is correct about him..
Noxide is just one of those people in the game who you have to learn to watch out for.... don\'t let him get to you anymore than I do. :-D For the record, he\'s obnoxious to non-guild knights as well.
Originally posted by Sangwa
It\'s impossible to roleplay something if you don\'t know the role you\'re supposed to play.
The goals of the guild have already been posted... I know that role playing is important to a lot of people here to the point of elitism, however guild nights fills a niche that needs to be filled. They have over 100 members, most of them happy, so it should be obvious that they\'re doing something right despite what flaws you see.
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Well anyways I agree with you on this one, besides all I have ever seen any of the Guild Knights do in game is power level and bug abuse.
PLEASE CONTACT US IMMEDIATELY IF YOU SEE A RUDE OR OFFENSIVE GUILD KNIGHT. IT MEANS OUR REPUTATION AND IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE THAT WE KNOW!
Thank you. :rolleyes:
You haven\'t seen Guild Knights do anything except PL and bug abuse? Have you been under a rock this week cause what with the huge size of our guild theres almost always at least 1 guild knight in one of those circles chatting with people.. :( Everytime I go to the plaza at least one of us is there..
And come on, sure sometimes we bug abuse but EVERYONE has bug-abused. I bet even you have. :rolleyes:
Thank you Sangwa, History will be added in due time.. And a reason for the name.. Just thought mabye those other things were more important.. Like in Janner\'s Way topic all he had was history.. thats all wall and good but.. not that useful. (Don\'t take this the wrong way r.guppy, I just need some point example to argue with :p)
Oh and neither the Darchis knights not the Shinito blades have histories, go bash theirs and let me off the hook for a while ;( Why me..
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I\'m not bashing \'cause you don\'t have an history. In fact, even the Dark Empire hasn\'t a background history (though there isn\'t much \"ground\" before us, since we\'re one of the oldest guilds).
The thing is, the information we have on your guild is not enough for us to roleplay with it.
For instance, I don\'t know if your guild simply aids the weak, or if it fights for them as well. I don\'t know if you\'re against the Chaos, or curruption, or if you\'re neutral towards it. I don\'t understand why you do what you do.
Just thought mabye those other things were more important..
Those other things (if you\'re refering to the basis of the guild) are more important. But they\'re not enough if you wish to have a roleplay guild. That\'s what I mean.
It\'s so easy to add what you\'re missing, that I hardly understand why you keep arguing, instead of applying the changes. Unless you have no intention of being a roleplay guild.
Zanzibar is right when he says non-roleplay guilds fill some kind of gap. Not everyone is a roleplayer, and we should respect that.
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Alright.. :D
Update: Added a more consice Goal that touches on History.
OOC: As to why I was \"Arguing\": I had homework to do and also I was feeling Meh about writing a difficult Essay with large scoops of connotation and persuation. :P You last post clarified it a bit. :)
Although I must say, your posts sting and are very heavy critisism..:emerald:
Out of curiosity, why do you always type in green?
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PLEASE CONTACT US IMMEDIATELY IF YOU SEE A RUDE OR OFFENSIVE GUILD KNIGHT. IT MEANS OUR REPUTATION AND IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE THAT WE KNOW!
:rolleyes:
Hippocrite.
Sirunie killed a rogue.
/me grumbles, \"Why did you do that. Hippocrite.\"
Sirunie says: They fall through walls.
\"They fall through the walls.\"
\'nuff said.
They did however invite me to they\'re group and that was kind but still...
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Originally posted by Neryam
Well anyways I agree with you on this one, besides all I have ever seen any of the Guild Knights do in game is power level and bug abuse.
PLEASE CONTACT US IMMEDIATELY IF YOU SEE A RUDE OR OFFENSIVE GUILD KNIGHT. IT MEANS OUR REPUTATION AND IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE THAT WE KNOW!
Thank you. :rolleyes:
You haven\'t seen Guild Knights do anything except PL and bug abuse? Have you been under a rock this week cause what with the huge size of our guild theres almost always at least 1 guild knight in one of those circles chatting with people.. :( Everytime I go to the plaza at least one of us is there..
And come on, sure sometimes we bug abuse but EVERYONE has bug-abused. I bet even you have. :rolleyes:
Thank you Sangwa, History will be added in due time.. And a reason for the name.. Just thought mabye those other things were more important.. Like in Janner\'s Way topic all he had was history.. thats all wall and good but.. not that useful. (Don\'t take this the wrong way r.guppy, I just need some point example to argue with :p)
Oh and neither the Darchis knights not the Shinito blades have histories, go bash theirs and let me off the hook for a while ;( Why me..
For starters you want to be told which of your players break the rules? How about we start with your \"Glorious Leader\" Sirunie Looseseye. And let\'s not even get started on Shalmanezer.
Next while I have tested some of the bugs to see how they are done or even to see if they realy are bugs; I do not exploit them.
And one more thing it a bad Idea to acuse the Darschis Knights of not haveing a history when you are talking to the guy that wrote that history. It is my guild after all.
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Originally posted by Hatchnet And let\'s not even get started on Shalmanezer.
Oh, so close! S, not a z. Oh, and I don\'t cheat. That leaves a few possibilities for why you would say such a thing:
- You heard it from someone else, and are now repearing it without questioning it.
- I killed something faster than you, and you consider this a bug.
- You\'re a liar.
I\'m the most inclined to believe the first or second, and to HUMOUR your unjust accusation I will ASSUME the second.
It has only recently come to my attention that the definition of kill stealing is broader than using the arrow glitch to interupt someone else\'s attacks. Despite the continued use of the arrow glitch by many players, I have been specifically targetted by GMs for kill stealing while they go free. The further trouble however is that I\'m not using the arrow glitch.
I\'m was simply killing creatures faster than the players around me.
Is this a bug or exploit? No. Retse, Pinaste, Neeve, and originally Zayek said that competing for spawns, as long as you don\'t use a bug or exploit such as the arrow glitch, is RUDE but LEGAL.
Relatively recently, that has changed. Now, kill stealing is expanded to include the following:
Kill stealing happens under the following circumstance:
Player A has the intention of killing Monster A
Player B kills Monster A
Therefore, Player B stole Monster A from Player A
Zayek gave me this definition, though worded diferently. It comes directly from him. When I asked Retse about it, he did not say it was wrong, so I can only assume it is correct.
Since being told what kill stealing really is, I have avoided killing creatures at spawns that already have people near to them. If that person is just standing there, not doing anything, I\'ll ask before killing it. You might think this is silly or impractical, but I have been repeatedly threatened with BANNING because of this new definition of kill stealing.
Have I been KSing? Without knowing it, yes. However, many people have been KSing using the arrow glitch -- and they continue to do it -- and no action has come to them that I\'ve seen. Have I been using a glitch? No. A bug? No. An exploit? No.
I hope this clarifies the matter, and I hope you learn something hint hint from what I\'ve posted!
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Look, if you are KSing you know it. There is no way that you wouldnt. If someone else is at the spawn.. though it may suck because there could be a person at nearly every spawn, you are KSing. There is no way you can say that \"I had no idea I was KSing\" if you did it... which you say you did.. then you did it and it was intentional.. not you were accidently doing it or whatever. Some people play by certain rules of conduct and some dont... thats why we are going to have another wipe because instead of reporting bugs many would rather exploit them.
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Originally posted by Valbrandr
Look, if you are KSing you know it. There is no way that you wouldnt. If someone else is at the spawn.. though it may suck because there could be a person at nearly every spawn, you are KSing. There is no way you can say that \"I had no idea I was KSing\" if you did it... which you say you did.. then you did it and it was intentional.. not you were accidently doing it or whatever. Some people play by certain rules of conduct and some dont... thats why we are going to have another wipe because instead of reporting bugs many would rather exploit them.
I had no clue that I was kill stealing. I was not using a bug or exploit. I have abided by the new definition of kill stealing.
If you wish to discuss or debate the new definition of kill stealing, then visit my thread in the general discussion forum.
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Originally posted by Valbrandr
Look, if you are KSing you know it. There is no way that you wouldnt. If someone else is at the spawn.. though it may suck because there could be a person at nearly every spawn, you are KSing. There is no way you can say that \"I had no idea I was KSing\" if you did it... which you say you did.. then you did it and it was intentional.. not you were accidently doing it or whatever. Some people play by certain rules of conduct and some dont... thats why we are going to have another wipe because instead of reporting bugs many would rather exploit them.
What if person B also had intention of killing monster A. ? :)
Kill stealing is very rude but I personally think there should be a different way of doing it [Damage Decideds]
Then people could STHU :).
And Valbrandr, your GUILDLEADER kill stealed from me and tried to give an explanation of \"I wasn\'t KSing because they fall through the walls.\" In which case they die....
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Thats a load of bull Shal. Do you think I was born yesterday? Do you think I\'m not watching you people?
Quit trying to make yourself look better by twisting the truth to suit your own ends. If you see someone waiting there turn to kill a monster and you run up and kill that monster before they have the chance THEN you are kill stilling, and this is something I have seen you and several other Guild Knights do on several occasions.
[ Edited for language. --Karyuu ]
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Originally posted by Hatchnet
Thats a load of bull Shal. Do you think I was born yesterday? Do you think I\'m not watching you people?
Quit trying to make yourself look better by twisting the truth to suit your own ends. If you see someone waiting there turn to kill a monster and you run up and kill that monster before they have the chance THEN you are kill stilling, and this is something I have seen you and several other Guild Knights do on several occasions.
*yawn* Read the posts....
It\'s probably a mistake to humour you, but think about this: If someone is standing next to a creature, and someone else is walking towards it, who has the greater \"chance\" of attacking it? You\'re accusing us of \"running up to creatures and killing them before other people get the chance\". The chance to what? To run up and kill it? No, because that would be a stupid thing to claim. Aha, you must mean that they\'re standing there already.
Well if they\'re standing there already, they have the best chance to attack it out of everyone -- unless they\'re afk of course.
[ Edited for language. --Karyuu ]
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Ok, since I stopped looking at this forums everyone is flaming everyone. Ok, for one thing, I was not suggesting you tell us what to do, I meant just push us in the right direction, second of all I didn\'t mean that Noxide was the only person like that, and he is probably much nicer to people than most. I have been around Nox when he has been nicer than I am. And Sirunie, can be a little wild sometimes, as can I. But none has ever been harmed from our acts as far as I have seen, and I generally think Nox is funny. Rudeness is the least of our problems in anything. If someone is rude to you, don\'t yell or spaz out. I am talking about members of my guild as well, and for some part, mostly. Arguments just make things worse. Calmly discuss, do not get mad, and try and understand what everyone else says. Now I hold nothing against anyone, but people being pissed off annoys me very much... I act differently ingame than I do out of game, and my guild members can probably confirm that, for I act completely obnoxious a lot of times, insulting many people in my own guild, including Sriunie, though when I do it, everyone knows I\'m kidding, so it is a bit different. But the point is, people are peolpe and they will be rude to have a bit of fun. Ignore it, or there will just be more problems. I have a theory on human existence. I believe most humans cannot seem to live without some sort of chaos. They try to find some way to make it. I even do. It is human nature, and few can ignore it. I just wish people of my guild would stop getting pissed at people trying to set us on the right path, and at the people insuklting, however true it may be, our guild. Report specifically to someone like Antra, or even me if you like, and we will make sure it gets taken care of. As for people who steal kills, I dislike it too, though I am often unaware of doing it myself. I often even let people have many turns killing monsters before I do it again. Is there no way we can stop arguing so much?
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Settle your quarrels in-game, where they belong.
You should have more discern when posting in public forums. Try to keep in mind most people don\'t care about your personal disputes. Your messy posts make it harder to focus on the topic.
Anyway. Your changes are very humuristic, Neryam ^^. I specially like the part when it says \"Summarizing:...\" right after the long speech.
So, I\'ll try to make this my last piece of heavy, stingy criticism:
You don\'t need to sound like you\'re trying to sell your guild\'s membership.
Also, the word Game Masters in a roleplay-like essay, kinda brings down all its role value. Game Masters aren\'t Game Masters in their role. Their function, is most times, OOC.
I would word your goals and beliefs in a different way. For example: \"The Guild Knights seek to rid Yliakum of the Misery and Negligence it has been afflicted with.
Honor, truth and honesty are the ideals Lord Sriunie Looseye chose to guide our Knights\' hands and hearts.
This is why we shall dedicate our lives to provide the needy with what they need.\"
Something looking like that. I\'m not capable of knowing your true goals and beliefs, but this is how I would like to see the information.
There are other ways, like the Darschis Knights did (a set of rules) or a big essay like you wrote. As long as the words Game Masters are removed.
You don\'t need to bluntly please me by inserting a forced speech. I\'m just trying to help you make a roleplay guild, since that seems to be your wish. I\'m not forcing you into it :P. You can do whatever you like and then tell me if you\'ve had enough opinions already. I won\'t be making you listen against your will.
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And Valbrandr, your GUILDLEADER kill stealed from me and tried to give an explanation of \"I wasn\'t KSing because they fall through the walls.\" In which case they die....
Aaaa... I am the guildleader... who are you talking about? Hmm not you got me wondering if you are just making things up as you go along...
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What if person B also had intention of killing monster A. ?
Leave the mosnter A alone because it is going to be killed by person A, dont you think? :rolleyes:
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For what I\'ve read guess we have a lot of new sheriffs in town... No Kill Thief will remain alive no more. HAIL to the sheriffs! Keep up the good work trying to say something that it isnt crap. ;)
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Kill Stealing is not to be discussed here. I think it would be better if a moderator had the kindness to remove the off-topic posts about KS from now on.
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Originally posted by Sangwa
Kill Stealing is not to be discussed here. I think it would be better if a moderator had the kindness to remove the off-topic posts about KS from now on.
Yeah, well all the threads about kill stealing get locked or deleted anyway so what the blazes is the point?
I\'m talking to Moogie about the c r a p that\'s been pulled in this forum by the moderators. It\'s out of control.
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Actually there goes another delete to your post count. You have no idea what happens here. Im not sure if you are even in a position to complain about it because you along with some others are spamers and your posts and thread deserve to be locked or deleted. You are going to have to keep your attitude in check ingame and at the forums. And I know how rude you can be.. I was your advisor a few times and the way you were like wtf.. if you are rude to advisors who only try to help (and pad their own AP) then im sure it goes further than that as well.
PS and please dont curse on the forums... you will end up just getting yourself banned..
Already edited before I posted huh :P
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with no recruitment guidelines and letting all levels invite, it would seem that this is going to be a power recruiting guild to become huge and strong.
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Unless they find a way to educate their members on how they should recruit.
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Originally posted by Valbrandr
Actually there goes another delete to your post count. You have no idea what happens here. Im not sure if you are even in a position to complain about it because you along with some others are spamers and your posts and thread deserve to be locked or deleted. You are going to have to keep your attitude in check ingame and at the forums. And I know how rude you can be.. I was your advisor a few times and the way you were like wtf.. if you are rude to advisors who only try to help (and pad their own AP) then im sure it goes further than that as well.
PS and please dont curse on the forums... you will end up just getting yourself banned..
Already edited before I posted huh :P
When people are rude to me, I\'m rude back. That\'s all I\'m apparently allowed to say on the matter.
Believe whatever you wish to believe.
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If a person is rude to you does not give you the right to be rude back. Posts are not PM\'s, they are viewed by any person so try and keep them clean. If someone is being rude to you, ask a GM to help, that is of course if you begin to start treating GM\'s with the respect they deserve.
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Originally posted by Kias
If a person is rude to you does not give you the right to be rude back. Posts are not PM\'s, they are viewed by any person so try and keep them clean. If someone is being rude to you, ask a GM to help, that is of course if you begin to start treating GM\'s with the respect they deserve.
Believe what you want to.
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It\'s not a belief, it\'s a little thing called common sense.
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Originally posted by Kias
It\'s not a belief, it\'s a little thing called common sense.
Believe what you want to.
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Kias let it be. His arogance will breed it\'s own reward.
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Originally posted by Hatchnet
Kias let it be. His arogance will breed it\'s own reward.
Believe what you want to, spammer.
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No need to mess with Shalmaneser anymore he \"Left\" the guild. Basically I assume he was kicked because of all the people who dont care for him. Bad publicity for the guild. So he was done away with. Lets not get the Guild Knights thread closed because of someone who is not even in it anymore.
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Sorry about that. Just needed to get my point across to Zanzibar. :/
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I\'s amazing how touchy the subject of KSing is. I mean how about people just use common sence and courtesy? If someone is about to take a orange from the lunch buffet you don\'t run up, grab it and run away. Neither do you throw a net and yank it out. Just share the monsters freely and in line..
Gosh I don\'t understand why KSing is such a big deal and why it even happens.. Unless youre getting your kill stealed by arrow, just let it go and either share or find a new monster.. gosh..
Actually Shalmaneser left the guild 2 days ago. There was a big fight beteen Sindar and Shal, and Shal left. But he\'s still loyal to the guild don\'t ask me why.
Novices now cannot invite.
Also, it is now part of the four commandments saying \"Thou shal not send blind invites\". Basically it means talk to the guy and ask them if they would be interested in becoming a guild knight, then inviting them.
Thanks Sangwa, I\'ll revise it a bit.:D
Now why can\'t everybody be kind, good, helpful and courteous like Sangwa? Stupid flame wars..
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Believe what you want to.
Believe what you want to.
Believe what you want to, spammer.
If you dont have arguments shut up, please. It\'s better then do 3 posts saying the same stuff.
EDIT: Good luck to your guild Neryam, and beware with who you recruit.
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Oh and I would like to add about the power hungry guild accusations, I am very weak ingame and I am the Highest rank besides Sirunie and Antra. So are a lot of other people, but I could be beaten easily.
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Well.. hehe you say that alot don\'t you. The Jokester :D
Its OFFICIALLY:
Sirunie
Me (Antra)
Zak, Aurora, Devorn and all the other Arch Knights
The rest of you people in order of rank :P
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Originally posted by Valbrandr
No need to mess with Shalmaneser anymore he \"Left\" the guild. Basically I assume he was kicked because of all the people who dont care for him. Bad publicity for the guild. So he was done away with. Lets not get the Guild Knights thread closed because of someone who is not even in it anymore.
*sigh* I have never been kicked out of any guild. I\'m on good terms with the Guild Knights minus Sindar, who I have on my idiot list (ignore list).
It\'s an interesting thing. I don\'t let lies go unchecked. I show what\'s false to be false. So these people resort to slander and shots-in-the-dark in order to tarnish my name. It\'s pathetic, it\'s weak, and it\'s spam.
Originally posted by Ashamn
If you dont have arguments shut up, please. It\'s better then do 3 posts saying the same stuff.
EDIT: Good luck to your guild Neryam, and beware with who you recruit.
You don\'t understand. I\'ve been answering the same questions over and over again. I\'ve been countering the same false accusations over and over again. Since these people will never grow up, since these people will never change their minds about anything, there\'s no point in talking to them anymore.
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As far as I know Shalmaneser was not kicked out if he had been i would know I\'m in good with sirunie and all the other high ups in the guilds.. in fact i am one of them so please every one stop trying to make things up to make others sound bad it just make you look stupid when you get proven wrong.....
Thank you
Gravalden
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The issue had been settled. No need for you to even post to tell you the truth. you are just going to cause more people to flame your thread. Its a thing you have to learn to get used to .. not the flaming of course.. but figuring out when to allow an arguement to die. It is over.. so move on.
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Originally posted by Valbrandr
The issue had been settled. No need for you to even post to tell you the truth. you are just going to cause more people to flame your thread. Its a thing you have to learn to get used to .. not the flaming of course.. but figuring out when to allow an arguement to die. It is over.. so move on.
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Originally posted by Ashamn
I dont get it, really..
If u are so certain of your words and if u are ok with yourself, why did u made those 3 posts?...
It\'s odd for me someone call spammer to another guy when.. err... he spams.. =\\
*shakes head in disappointment*
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You don\'t understand. I\'ve been answering the same questions over and over again. I\'ve been countering the same false accusations over and over again. Since these people will never grow up, since these people will never change their minds about anything, there\'s no point in talking to them anymore.
I dont get it, really..
If u are so certain of your words and if u are ok with yourself, why did u made those 3 posts?...
It\'s odd for me someone call spammer to another guy when.. err... he spams.. =\\
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This guild has absolutely NO honor, Sirunie challenged me when I was afk, then I got back when the challenge was still open, looked around a little and didn\'t see him so I knew he was hiding somewhere...Then accepted, I tried to shoot an arrow spell at him to figure out where he was, and he wasn;t even in Hydlaa, so I figured if he entered a sector boundary then the challenge would have closed (Like the time when I challenged Muamer and he entered a different area and the duel got cancelled) so I decided to go to the arena and kill some gladiators...
Thats when he ran up and attacked me, knowing the challenge was still open, and since I had been playing for a few hours, my client was all nice and laggy, so I couldn\'t move while I got stuck down...
Sirunie, your a complete coward, if you ever want to fight a fair duel, then you\'ll get rid of the short swords, stand up to me, and we\'ll both fight using REGULAR swords, must hurt your reputation when you lose...Also, no potions or running away, you did that in our last war. Lets see if you can actually earn having a guild yourself before anything.
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Originally posted by Suno_Regin
This guild has absolutely NO honor, Sirunie challenged me when I was afk, then I got back when the challenge was still open, looked around a little and didn\'t see him so I knew he was hiding somewhere...Then accepted, I tried to shoot an arrow spell at him to figure out where he was, and he wasn;t even in Hydlaa, so I figured if he entered a sector boundary then the challenge would have closed (Like the time when I challenged Muamer and he entered a different area and the duel got cancelled) so I decided to go to the arena and kill some gladiators...
Thats when he ran up and attacked me, knowing the challenge was still open, and since I had been playing for a few hours, my client was all nice and laggy, so I couldn\'t move while I got stuck down...
Sirunie, your a complete coward, if you ever want to fight a fair duel, then you\'ll get rid of the short swords, stand up to me, and we\'ll both fight using REGULAR swords, must hurt your reputation when you lose...Also, no potions or running away, you did that in our last war. Lets see if you can actually earn having a guild yourself before anything.
Listen, if you don\'t want to duel, just don\'t accept any challenges! Chances are, you were waiting to accept the duel until you found him so you could get the jump on him.
If you want good swords, why not just buy them? If you really don\'t have good weapons, then why whine about it since you knew what you were going up against?
Also, /target_next_nearest_player doesn\'t cycle through everyone in the zone, it only goes so far as maybe 30 metres or something away from you.
Hope this helps!
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Originally posted by Suno_Regin
This guild has absolutely NO honor, Sirunie challenged me when I was afk, then I got back when the challenge was still open, looked around a little and didn\'t see him so I knew he was hiding somewhere...Then accepted, I tried to shoot an arrow spell at him to figure out where he was, and he wasn;t even in Hydlaa, so I figured if he entered a sector boundary then the challenge would have closed (Like the time when I challenged Muamer and he entered a different area and the duel got cancelled) so I decided to go to the arena and kill some gladiators...
Thats when he ran up and attacked me, knowing the challenge was still open, and since I had been playing for a few hours, my client was all nice and laggy, so I couldn\'t move while I got stuck down...
Sirunie, your a complete coward, if you ever want to fight a fair duel, then you\'ll get rid of the short swords, stand up to me, and we\'ll both fight using REGULAR swords, must hurt your reputation when you lose...Also, no potions or running away, you did that in our last war. Lets see if you can actually earn having a guild yourself before anything.
You accepted it, and besides, he didn\'t know that your client was laggy.. Oh but Sirunie never looks at the forums so you\'ll have to talk to him in-game :/
It automatically closes in like 20 seconds so he couldn\'t have leaved Hydlaa anyway..
But why is this so bad? Sure it may be sneaky but you oughtta find him BEFORE you accept the challenge..
UPDATE: All inviting privleges axcept Avatar and Arch Knight were removed. There was an ugly incident.. :O
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I agree though.... Sirunie can be a little sneaky when he duels.... But he isn\'t a coward..... He is just exercising guerilla warfare... Ohh and I definitely know Shal was not kicked because I tried to reinvite him as soon as he left and he declined...
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I know he wasnt kicked. I was merely stating that a member that is as inflamatory has no place in a \'respected\' guild. I was throwing out a possibility... basically what I would have done to him because the way he asks in game and on the forum. I would encourage him to look back over everything he did.. we all make mistakes, its about learning from them.
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Do you even know me ingame??? I am probably worse than Shal, and I get on most people\'s nerves on purpose....
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No I have really never talked with you or heard you in game. but the whole I am Shalamanser ( or however you spell it) gets annoying. Not to mention he shouts \"BRB\" and all kinds of other stuff that no one cares about. Show a little common decency (sp?) for the people who play the game. Many of us are just here to have fun just dont take fun away from other people because you want to have your fun.
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Whenever he says \"I am Shalmaneser!\", I reply with \"I am the Jokester!\"... Just to sorta give him his share of mockery...
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Originally posted by Zaknefein
I agree though.... Sirunie can be a little sneaky when he duels.... But he isn\'t a coward..... He is just exercising guerilla warfare... Ohh and I definitely know Shal was not kicked because I tried to reinvite him as soon as he left and he declined...
Sirunie is more than just sneaky, he\'s a freaking monster! Of course it was me who taught him how to fight like that.... a part of me regrets it now that he\'s gotten better at it than I.
Originally posted by Valbrandr
I know he wasnt kicked. I was merely stating that a member that is as inflamatory has no place in a \'respected\' guild. I was throwing out a possibility... basically what I would have done to him because the way he asks in game and on the forum. I would encourage him to look back over everything he did.. we all make mistakes, its about learning from them.
Way to back-pedal. :-D
Originally posted by Valbrandr
No I have really never talked with you or heard you in game. but the whole I am Shalamanser ( or however you spell it) gets annoying. Not to mention he shouts \"BRB\" and all kinds of other stuff that no one cares about. Show a little common decency (sp?) for the people who play the game. Many of us are just here to have fun just dont take fun away from other people because you want to have your fun.
Yeah... you don\'t try to take the fun away from others, nope not at all. :-D Shouting acronyms is an uncrowded area is rude but not worth freaking out over. Further, that\'s not the reason you\'re writting in that thread -- you\'re just trying to change the subject. Further, and most importantly, check the sig!
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Further, and most importantly, check the sig!
Rofl :D
Yes THE JOKESTER is more annoying than shal but he\'s funny, and he\'s at least polite in-game and has good etiquitte so we\'ll keep him.
Yup, in guild chat Zak says things like this
Hello new player, I am the Jokester! I am the most important of all people in Guild Knights, although Antra and Sirunie are close behind.
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From what i can see Guild Knights are simply power leveling. I almost all the time guild members in the arena hitting massive damages (400+ in one hit).
This is just my observation and not that its a bad thing.
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Originally posted by Neryam
Yup, in guild chat Zak says things like this
Hello new player...
That phrase does not belong in guildchat...
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Originally posted by Ecolem
From what i can see Guild Knights are simply power leveling. I almost all the time guild members in the arena hitting massive damages (400+ in one hit).
This is just my observation and not that its a bad thing.
I see plenty of RP from Guild Knights, then again I probably see more than others do. And if you\'re going to complain about us powerlevelling... well, there are a few others more worthy of your wrath. *wink*
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Actually, what I say when another member joins is exactly this: \"Welcome! Heed some oft heeded advice. Take not my advice but that which you now recieve, for I am Zaknefein, Jokester of the Guild Knights.\" I have that typed as a shortcut now. I might have to change it sometime soon because it is getting dull and old...
Oh, and about the powerlvling thing, once again, I know of only a few people who can hit for more than 300 and stuff, and can only really think of one, and that is Sirunie.... Heck, I only hit 120+ because Thilele gave me a Frosty Broadsword and Shal gave me a Dark Broadsword... Most people that hit that much in the guild are the people who I see on the most.
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Yesterday I had a good glimpse at the Guld Knight\'s so called \"RP\". Basically me and some others were trying to RP (didn\'t exactly work because of the GK). One of the GK walked up to us and insisted on us duelling him, and wouldn\'t accept no for an answer.
In the beginning it even was looking somewhat like RP, but quickly it became obvious that it wasn\'t.
GK1 says: hello warriors
RPer1 says: I am not a warrior, good sir
GK1 says: anyone up for a duel?
RPer1 says: I dislike violence in general
RPer1 says: in fact i gave up my career as a hunter
GK1 says: than how will you progress?
(...)
GK2 says: uh o
GK1 says: i wnat
GK1 says: to fight
RPer2 swears
RPer3 says: -.-
RPer1 says: you\'ll not find it here
GK1 says: ah come on
RPer2 says: (Seriously, go PL elsewhere.)
GK1 says: never
GK2 says: here we go again
GK1 says: youmust killme to send me away
RPer1 says: (this is nto c ool you cannot demand PvP)
RPer3 says: (when you are up to an ic fight.. ok)
GK2 says: lol it comes back to haunt
GK1 says: lol
RPer1 frowns
GK1 says: come on fightme one of you
(...)
At one point this gem came up:
[/b]GK2 says: not true game players[/b]
Which says it all. Eventually GK1 left, but GK2 stayed and kept disrupting our RP by dropping things and moving between and around us, etc.
All in all, they were purposefully disrupting our RP.
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Originally posted by Seytra
All in all, they were purposefully disrupting our RP.
I don\'t see it that way. He was trying to role play with you, but you just didn\'t want to role play with him. That\'s not powerlevelling, you can\'t say he isn\'t roleplaying just because he\'s bugging you. In fact, your accusation makes me so furious right now that my next sentence won\'t even make sense gramatically! Purple rude dmanit nonword!
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Originally posted by zanzibar
Originally posted by Seytra
All in all, they were purposefully disrupting our RP.
I don\'t see it that way. He was trying to role play with you, but you just didn\'t want to role play with him. That\'s not powerlevelling, you can\'t say he isn\'t roleplaying just because he\'s bugging you. In fact, your accusation makes me so furious right now that my next sentence won\'t even make sense gramatically! Purple rude dmanit nonword!
The sheer amount of undesignated but clearly OOC content makes it clear that it was not RP. Also, I have not posted the entire log for space reasons, but I assure you that the item droppings were completely OOC, as was everything else. I give him that they somewhat phrased it RP-like, but the way it happened was completely unrealistic and definitely not RP. In fact, it was done solely to get our attention, in a completely OOC way. But it is similar to what you tend to do and classify as \"RP\", so I\'m not surprised to see you say it\'s RP. Seriously, any form of dropping items is completely OOC, except in very rare cases, which are very different from the situation I\'m referring to.
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Yes I just read it. I agree that was not RP. It was more stuPidity . That would be much closer. But what do you expect.. they let Shal back in the guild. I wish people would not do things like that ingame. If they want to fight.. they should go kill eachother somewhere :D.
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So you people are going to continue to stereotype the Guild Knights, all of them, for the actions of some noobs and jerks? Give me the names of those involved in anything rude such as that and I will see to it that they are dealt with. If there is one thing I cannot tolerate it is stereotyping. You say the whole guild is stupid because of a few members who are rude. We have told you to report them to us, and not one of you has. If you don\'t intend to tell us who it is, then please don\'t post here complaining about it.
And stop busting on Shal. He is a nice guy and has helped me a lot without asking for me to pay him back. He left because he and Sindar were pissed at each other. We didn\'t force Shal out, so who are we not to let him back in? If we did that we would all be truly jerks. If Shal is rude to you, report directly to me, and I will insure that it is taken care of. If I am rude, report it directly to Antra.... Sirunie would probably think nothing of it and not do anything about it, but Antra might, and if anyone else is rude or mean or anything like that, I will definitely see to it. So I will state once again, if you do not intend to report the people involved to me or Antra, then DO NOT complain here. That is most of what I have to say, and you are making even me lose my calmness and indifference. I am personally insulted by you stereotyping my guild. Now if you will please PM me with the names of these people, I will deal with it when I get on in a few minutes...
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Originally posted by Seytra
Yesterday I had a good glimpse at the Guld Knight\'s so called \"RP\". Basically me and some others were trying to RP (didn\'t exactly work because of the GK). One of the GK walked up to us and insisted on us duelling him, and wouldn\'t accept no for an answer.
...All in all, they were purposefully disrupting our RP.
You should know that if any is \'bugging\' you, contact a GM right away. Dont wait and \'hope\' for it to be solved by its self. Thats what were here for ;)
Originally posted by Zaknefein
So you people are going to continue to stereotype the Guild Knights, all of them, for the actions of some noobs and jerks?
He is right, please dont make stereo types that all GK\'s noobs and dont call them GK1,2 ect. Thats telling us it very well could of been anyone at all in GK\'s and i can assure you the people i know in GKs are not noobs or jerks or whatever
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Originally posted by Zaknefein
If Shal is rude to you, report directly to me, and I will insure that it is taken care of. If I am rude, report it directly to Antra.... Sirunie would probably think nothing of it and not do anything about it, but Antra might, and if anyone else is rude or mean or anything like that, I will definitely see to it.
Now if you will please PM me with the names of these people, I will deal with it when I get on in a few minutes...
I will take your word for this. PM about to be sent.
Edit: @Ecolem: I named them GK1 etc. in order to keep anonymity on the public site. Also, they have been the only ones I had contact with of the GK, so the generalization seemed valid, especially since I don\'t think highly of Shalmaneser and Sindar as well, but that is not related to the incident I am referring to here.
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Thank you. I am making my own guild ATM with my other char so I will tell Sirunie when I am done, and also them later.
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Originally posted by Valbrandr
Yes I just read it. I agree that was not RP. It was more stuPidity . That would be much closer. But what do you expect.. they let Shal back in the guild. I wish people would not do things like that ingame. If they want to fight.. they should go kill eachother somewhere :D.
They didn\'t \"let\" me back into the guild, they asked me to rejoin and I accepted. Why don\'t you go back to your guild\'s thread and stop spamming ours? It\'s so bad that Antra should consider getting Moogie involved...
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I looked back over each post I had here. Each one was in line or atleast I feel each was. I stated much earlier that I was not going to post here anymore. But each time I do that then you come in as you are again. It is over Shal. Go have fun ingame PLing or whatever you love to do in this realm. Everything was finished again and you want to start everything back up. You will eventually get your guilds thread closed. Hmm.. I think they should keep a shorter leash on you.
Edit if you hate Sindar that much then it would be a good thing not to be in the same guild as him/her.
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Originally posted by Seytra
Originally posted by Zaknefein
If Shal is rude to you, report directly to me, and I will insure that it is taken care of. If I am rude, report it directly to Antra.... Sirunie would probably think nothing of it and not do anything about it, but Antra might, and if anyone else is rude or mean or anything like that, I will definitely see to it.
Now if you will please PM me with the names of these people, I will deal with it when I get on in a few minutes...
I will take your word for this. PM about to be sent.
Edit: @Ecolem: I named them GK1 etc. in order to keep anonymity on the public site. Also, they have been the only ones I had contact with of the GK, so the generalization seemed valid, especially since I don\'t think highly of Shalmaneser and Sindar as well, but that is not related to the incident I am referring to here.
Don\'t you ****ing compare me to Sindar. I\'ve been accused of my fair share of things around here, and there are more than enough lies going around about me, but do NOT compare me to Sindar.
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That was just plain rude... Still making guild.... some complications occured.
Edit: that was to Val, not Shal..... Heh, that rhymes, lol.
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Originally posted by Valbrandr
I looked back over each post I had here. Each one was in line or atleast I feel each was.
You think your posts are \"in line\". Others obviously disagree.
Originally posted by Valbrandr
Edit if you hate Sindar that much then it would be a good thing not to be in the same guild as him/her.
Bravo, you\'ve entered genius territory on that one! :-D I left Guild Knights so that I wouldn\'t be in the same guild as Sindar. Sindar has left the Guild Knights to join the Dragon Council, and I have rejoined the Guild Knights. My sympathy to the Dragon Council.
Edit: I move that after the update to the guild info is made, which includes a more in depth history and a refined set of rules (if sir and antra decided they need refining), once that I happens I vote that we delete this thread and start a new one. All the bickering and melodrama in this thread is damned ugly.
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Yes, I agree with Shal on that last part.
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Originally posted by zanzibar
Originally posted by Ashamn
If you dont have arguments shut up, please. It\'s better then do 3 posts saying the same stuff.
You don\'t understand. I\'ve been answering the same questions over and over again. I\'ve been countering the same false accusations over and over again. Since these people will never grow up, since these people will never change their minds about anything, there\'s no point in talking to them anymore.
No, i think Ashmans right. If someone askes the same question you say \'over and over\' then ignore them.
Think we should calm things down here. No more flameing. Its a guild post so talk about the guild. If you hav\'nt got anything nice to say then dont say it at all.
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Originally posted by Ecolem
Originally posted by zanzibar
Originally posted by Ashamn
If you dont have arguments shut up, please. It\'s better then do 3 posts saying the same stuff.
You don\'t understand. I\'ve been answering the same questions over and over again. I\'ve been countering the same false accusations over and over again. Since these people will never grow up, since these people will never change their minds about anything, there\'s no point in talking to them anymore.
No, i think Ashmans right. If someone askes the same question you say \'over and over\' then ignore them.
Think we should calm things down here. No more flameing. Its a guild post so talk about the guild. If you hav\'nt got anything nice to say then dont say it at all.
I know what you\'re saying but you don\'t need to say it. If someone comes in here and starts making a bunch of wild accusations against guild members, a negative response can and should be expected. We don\'t need non guild members coming into our thread to preach to us; there are already mature members of the guild who are in command and are doing the best they can to take care of things. They make mistakes, say or do the wrong thing, but they should be given the chance.
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Okay.. thanks Ecolem :D Yes please do not stereotype our entire guild because of 1 or two rude players, as we now have over 110 members and at least 50 active, and it is difficult to keep track of guilds that big. What we need to be able to do is high rankers in the guild would be able to access chat logs of every Guild Knight member.
Oh and Ecolem, I think there is only 1 person in our entire guild that hits over 400, Sirunie, although mabye shal does I\'m not sure. And Darkmoon hits for 700 :P
Yeah.. we mabye should restart a new thread.. And if you have any complaints about some rude guild knights player, PLEASE don\'t bicker and complain about it here, TELL US THE NAMES or at lease just PM us because what you\'re doing now is not going to help anything. :(
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I only hit for 150.
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Originally posted by Neryam
Okay.. thanks Ecolem :D Yes please do not stereotype our entire guild because of 1 or two rude players, as we now have over 110 members and at least 50 active, and it is difficult to keep track of guilds that big. What we need to be able to do is high rankers in the guild would be able to access chat logs of every Guild Knight member.
We are not a mass-recruiting guild, we are a guild that helps newblets and makes them great. Already we have at least 5 members that were only brand new players a few weeks ago who are now great warriors!
I thought you guys were not a mass recruiting guild? How long has your guild been around? And that is one of the major negatives is that if you have so many people that even the leader or anyone for that matter has any idea what people could be doing. Not to mention that the larger your guild gets, the less structure/order you have in your ranks.
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Yes I know.. thats why I said What we need to be able to do is high rankers in the guild would be able to access chat logs of every Guild Knight member. And mabye groups as well as ranks and as many as we want. Cause Guilds are just going to get bigger as more people start playing.
As for the number of people, Our guild was made right after the wipe. We always interview people, and actually now only me and Sirunie and Arch Knights can invite.
Remember, one of the main philosophies in the first post says that we help anybody and everybody, and that means we do not exclude ANYONE if they wish to join and are pure of heart.
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And I may invite a lot of people into the guild, but they are all usually active and I have recieved no complaints about them...
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Shalmaneser, you\'re hunting days are over at last at
the Guild Knights.
Heard from Sirunie that you are kicked out of Guild
Knights at last, because of many complaints
against you.
And btw Sindar is a nice member.
I have been playing with him for several months now.
I can\'t say a bad thing about him.
Not like you, you are very worse known in PS.
Sindar is my apprentice and doing good works for the
Dragon Council.
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Originally posted by gladiator76
Shalmaneser, you\'re hunting days are over at last at
the Guild Knights.
Heard from Sirunie that you are kicked out of Guild
Knights at last, because of many complaints
against you.
And btw Sindar is a nice member.
I have been playing with him for several months now.
I can\'t say a bad thing about him.
Not like you, you are very worse known in PS.
Sindar is my apprentice and doing good works for the
Dragon Council.
The Dragon Council is a collection of individuals who talk about doing good but only care about power. When their higher members were causing havock for new players, their leaders did nothing. DC members have been rude to me consistently and often. I think Sindar has found a good home with you; I\'ve had a very bad experience with him, and I know that at least one other person had a similar quarrel.
I have a bad reputation among the regulars, and a good reputation among many of the new players. Why is that? Because in the beggining, I didn\'t show \"respect\" to the regulars. Because I have an abrasive personality, and people judge me too quickly because of it. Because I am too quick to defend myself when I believe a lie is being told. But hey, you don\'t have to listen to me because I\'m just a lowly power leveller. Because as you know, role players are worried about forming reputations, participating in guilds, etcetera.
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Originally posted by zanzibar
The Dragon Council is a collection of individuals who talk about doing good but only care about power.
Oh, really ? Never find myself saying anything about doing good. We are neutral, that\'s all.
Originally posted by zanzibar
When their higher members were causing havock for new players, their leaders did nothing.
Well, would you consider explaining what you are talking about ? Because as far as I know, and as far as I\'m concerned, such a thing never happened in my guild, and I would have never let such a thing happen.
Originally posted by zanzibar
DC members have been rude to me consistently and often.
Now this is getting interesting... Maybe you\'ll tell us at last what exactly you are reproaching us ?
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Heh.. but Sindar has been rude to you often Zanzibar? Ever considered that ~perhaps~ it was because you were extremely rude to him?
I think it started when you stole the fifty axe, then it degraded to a point where we did a duel practice session, Sindar was there, first words out of your mouth: \"Ewww not sindar\" :rolleyes:
And you have a bad reputation because you are so consistently stubborn when you are wrong, you insult everyone all the time when they chatise you for doing something unethical..
Not that youre always wrong, not at all, but you always say youre right and are arrogant and insulting.. Remember those famous two posts in a row: \"You think?\" \"You think?\"
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Originally posted by Rioth
Oh, really ? Never find myself saying anything about doing good. We are neutral, that\'s all.
Perhaps you should remind your members of that! Whenever I ask, they say their alligned with good.
Originally posted by Rioth
Well, would you consider explaining what you are talking about ? Because as far as I know, and as far as I\'m concerned, such a thing never happened in my guild, and I would have never let such a thing happen.
My point exactly!
Originally posted by Neryam
Heh.. but Sindar has been rude to you often Zanzibar? Ever considered that ~perhaps~ it was because you were extremely rude to him?
The first time I ever remember speaking to him was when he started chatting to me to make fun of my knives and daggers level. When I told him I didn\'t care, he started freaking out on me to the point where I had to ignore him. Does that answer your question?
As far as being stubborn, I\'m not stubborn when I\'m wrong. I\'m stubborn when I think I\'m right. There\'s a difference.
As far as the \"you think?\" bit, that\'s just desperate reaching on your part. When I said that, it was in response to questions which were being asked over and over again despite being answered, and it was in response to accusations which were being made over and over again despite being disproven or at the least addressed.
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Originally posted by zanzibar
Originally posted by Rioth
Oh, really ? Never find myself saying anything about doing good. We are neutral, that\'s all.
Perhaps you should remind your members of that! Whenever I ask, they say their alligned with good.
Originally posted by Rioth
Well, would you consider explaining what you are talking about ? Because as far as I know, and as far as I\'m concerned, such a thing never happened in my guild, and I would have never let such a thing happen.
My point exactly!
Originally posted by Neryam
Heh.. but Sindar has been rude to you often Zanzibar? Ever considered that ~perhaps~ it was because you were extremely rude to him?
The first time I ever remember speaking to him was when he started chatting to me to make fun of my knives and daggers level. When I told him I didn\'t care, he started freaking out on me to the point where I had to ignore him. Does that answer your question?
As far as being stubborn, I\'m not stubborn when I\'m wrong. I\'m stubborn when I think I\'m right. There\'s a difference.
As far as the \"you think?\" bit, that\'s just desperate reaching on your part. When I said that, it was in response to questions which were being asked over and over again despite being answered, and it was in response to accusations which were being made over and over again despite being disproven or at the least addressed.
Dragon Council is Lawfully Neutral.
You should have known, if you looked in Kada El\'s.
This means we are not Good neither Evil.
We help newbies around the Game, instead of harrasing
and challenging them.
We show new players around the game and learn them the basics of PS.
We ask nothing in return from them.
Some join the Dc later and some join other Guilds.
And no high ranked members were causing havock for
new players.
While Rioth was on vacation, Meriner and me were
leading the Dragon Council.
We don\'t tolerate any member of DC to cause havock
for any new player ingame.
And never a player ingame told about it to us.
Just as GK, we kick that player out of DC after a warning.
We want fair play in Planeshift and report all players
to Gm, that are not playing fair.
Like past week i reported 2 players for abusing
arrow-bug and using attack-bug on NPC.
Both got red-tagged by GM, after GM saw it.
GM\'s use 2 warnings system.
1st is official warning and 2nd is kicked from PS.
And you claim not to be a powerleveler.
I saw you do 500+ damage a hit.
No member of DC can hit that high, with the weapons we have.
And when we fight in a group, we dont steal weapons,
but loot them in turns.
It doesn\'t mather what kind of weapon it is.
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Originally posted by gladiator76
Dragon Council is Lawfully Neutral.
You should have known, if you looked in Kada El\'s.
We\'ve already gone over this. There is no question that the Dragon Council say that they\'re Neutral.
Originally posted by gladiator76
This means we are not Good neither Evil.
We help newbies around the Game, instead of harrasing
and challenging them.
We show new players around the game and learn them the basics of PS.
We ask nothing in return from them.
Some join the Dc later and some join other Guilds.
I can\'t confirm or deny that because I\'ve only ever heard it from others. If you read the rest of the thread though, you\'ll realize that it\'s beside the point. The Dragon Council, like any other large guild, is made up of a variety of individuals.
Originally posted by gladiator76
And no high ranked members were causing havock for
new players.
False. Maybe you just didn\'t realize it? Not only were some Dragon Council members doing what was described earlier in this thread, but when confronted they would brag about being friends with GMs. I\'m not saying the Rioth, Meriner, or the other higher ups supported what was happening. I\'ve talked to Meriner plenty of times in the game and he seems to be a pretty decent guy. The problem is that whether they knew or not, and apparently they never found out, nothing happened to change what was happening.
Originally posted by gladiator76
While Rioth was on vacation, Meriner and me were
leading the Dragon Council.
We don\'t tolerate any member of DC to cause havock
for any new player ingame.
And never a player ingame told about it to us.
Just as GK, we kick that player out of DC after a warning.
What can I say to this that hasn\'t already been said earlier in the thread?
Originally posted by gladiator76
We want fair play in Planeshift and report all players
to Gm, that are not playing fair.
Like past week i reported 2 players for abusing
arrow-bug and using attack-bug on NPC.
Both got red-tagged by GM, after GM saw it.
GM\'s use 2 warnings system.
1st is official warning and 2nd is kicked from PS.
That\'s the official line, but it isn\'t how it really works. I\'ve been warned many times, but I am still around -- and rightfully so. The problem is that in some cases, GMs don\'t agree on what constitutes breaking the rules. I\'ve pointed this out, and I\'ve talked to people like Drey are Retse who are willing to listen in the hopes of improving things. My point is that sometimes, things are complex. Other times though, you\'re right in suggesting that things are simple.
Except, GMs can\'t be everywhere at once. One time, someone was kill stealing from me. Instead of resorting to more base courses of action, I called in a GM, but the GM didn\'t come until 4 minutes after the cheater was already gone.
Originally posted by gladiator76
And you claim not to be a powerleveler.
I saw you do 500+ damage a hit.
No member of DC can hit that high, with the weapons we have.
Huh? You realize that ingame, I\'m Shalmaneser, and I only hit for 150-175? Maybe you\'re thinking of Sirunie?
Originally posted by gladiator76
And when we fight in a group, we dont steal weapons,
but loot them in turns.
It doesn\'t mather what kind of weapon it is.
Oh pish. I ran off with a dark battle axe, big whoop. It was rightfully the property of Verrliit, and to repay her I later gave her two dark longswords and offered her the original dark battle axe back as payment for its temporary use.
But hey, I guess you never heard about that either.
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You guys talk too much.
Chill or argue it out on your guild forums.
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Gosh.. this is getting stupid. I\'m pressing the restart button, everyone stop arguing and talk about the GUILD KNIGHTS. Not DC, not shalmaneser.
It is true that shal only does 150-200 damage with his daggers.
Can a mod please close this, and nobody post in here again. Post in \"Guild Knights 2\" which I\'ll make now.
Oh and Efflixi that won\'t work because as you can see Shalmaneser is arguing with Rioth and gladiator. None of them are from the Guild Knights, and Shal is not in DC.
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Originally posted by Neryam
None of them are from the Guild Knights, and Shal is not in DC.
Was I ever? :-D
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and nobody post in here again. Post in \"Guild Knights 2\" which I\'ll make now.
Sigh
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Originally posted by Neryam
and nobody post in here again. Post in \"Guild Knights 2\" which I\'ll make now.
Sigh
Isn\'t it better that people post in this thread than the new one? You\'re forgetting, I\'m the one that suggested that you make a new thread.
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Originally posted by Drey
the problem with this guild is that you start a guild war and then half your members start crying that people kill them...
for to be a real guild you need to have some discussion about these matters that affect the whole guild, also it sounds like mass promotion blah blah thing.
maybe in fact, they would start crying if someone killed them, but it would be hard to kill one of our members as we supply our members with the best of the best of weapons. Just a few weeks ago, i gave a dmg 40 shortsword to a newcomer of our guild. It is very faster than a battle axe longsword or broadsword, more accurate than a dagger, and more powerful than a dagger.
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I have given 3 40 shorts and 3 54 broads away, it deosn\'t matter that much but we had a guild war (for fun, no winning really) and our guild is coming along good, we still need a bit of improving but we are definetly up there, we are getting alot of apprentices now.... i think we might have to kick some old members...
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Originally posted by mar157
Originally posted by Drey
the problem with this guild is that you start a guild war and then half your members start crying that people kill them...
for to be a real guild you need to have some discussion about these matters that affect the whole guild, also it sounds like mass promotion blah blah thing.
maybe in fact, they would start crying if someone killed them, but it would be hard to kill one of our members as we supply our members with the best of the best of weapons. Just a few weeks ago, i gave a dmg 40 shortsword to a newcomer of our guild. It is very faster than a battle axe longsword or broadsword, more accurate than a dagger, and more powerful than a dagger.
by crying i mean complaining to GMs when they were killed... even though they were in a guild war.. its what you expect fighting and getting killed, no?
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What is this!!! Drey is posting and what he says makes sense :P. But yeah.. I agree with what he says. And you cant say it is hard for someone in your guild to be killed because most of the people I know can kill others in one hit.. so even if they have 40 dam weapons.. you only have a few seconds to figure out what is going on and react.
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i would join your teamspeak server but the ip you gave is incomplete i need the port number also
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Ahh.. Angelus this is an old thread, the new one is here (http://planeshift.oodlz.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=19037&boardid=18&styleid=2). :D
Welcome, by the way :D And the IP keeps changing so you may want to ask in-game for it, I don\'t know what it is at the moment lol :O
Oh and by the way, since I posted already I may tell you that this is a very good guild for newbies, we make a point of getting newbies in our guild and raising them up to great, honorable and glorious knights :D
What\'s your in-gaame name? (reply to this post in the new thread please ;) )
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So why hasn\'t somebody closed this thread now that Guild Knight have started a new one (which incidently hasn\'t solved their problem).
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Because we\'re in dire need of a better moderation :P. Or it wasn\'t reported properly.