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Support => Technical Help: Problems BEFORE entering the game => Topic started by: Mercwyn on August 27, 2005, 08:05:40 am

Title: Why don't you guys.....?
Post by: Mercwyn on August 27, 2005, 08:05:40 am: Why don\'t you guys zip the PS file to make it smaller? I had to reformat my HD and i lost the install file, i went to download it again and it says it\'s going to take 6 hours , What the hell is up with that?!
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Post by: Kias on August 27, 2005, 08:20:09 am: Well, firstly the time estimation will be way off at the start of a download...secondly, download time is based on your connection and how many people are trying to download the same file at the same time. Try downloading from a different link or waiting a few hours.
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Post by: DaveG on August 27, 2005, 08:55:01 am: First of all, Forum Requests is not the place for this. This forum is for requests associated with the forum itself. Not the game.

Secondly, I think it\'s safe to say the installer is already compressed. Zipping a compressed file does nothing, but put it in a zip. You can only compress so much. The file isn\'t getting any smaller, sorry.
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Post by: Karyuu on August 27, 2005, 07:45:34 pm: Torrents may work faster? Sometimes? I swear, they\'re great :)
Title: Why don't you guy.....?
Post by: Seytra on August 27, 2005, 08:09:00 pm: Why don\'t you guy inform yourself before making assumptions that are unlikely at best? The installer file is a mere 250Mb, while the installed version is 360MB (not counting psclient.txt). What do you think creates the additional 100 MB? This means a compression ratio of ~1.44, which is pretty good considering that the entire art is already zipped and remains zipped when installed.

So... know what you\'re talking about before ranting.

Edit: also, it might be worthwile to consider not wiping files that you might need afterwards, anyway. Wasting download bandwidth should be made a capital offense. :tdown:
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Post by: DaveG on August 27, 2005, 09:11:50 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Seytra
not counting psclient.txt

Yeah... that log file can get out of control. Mine hit almost a half gig before I realized it... Um... delete the thing every now and again. :P
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Post by: Seytra on August 27, 2005, 09:23:05 pm: Quote
Originally posted by DaveG
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Originally posted by Seytra
not counting psclient.txt

Yeah... that log file can get out of control. Mine hit almost a half gig before I realized it... Um... delete the thing every now and again. :P

Especially if you plan on ever uploading a .dmp file... the server won\'t accept any psclient.-txt > ~250KB. My solution, if I forgot to delete psclient.txt before (re)starting the client, is to look for the beginning of the most recent run, marked by \"======\" (search from the end of the file in reverse direction), and copy everything following it into a new file, which I then upload.
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Post by: aderet on August 28, 2005, 12:54:02 am: wow, i just checked mine, and im wasting 1.25 gig. lol.
i\'ve been crashing too much...
maybe there should be an automatic delete everytime you update? just an idea.
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Post by: Seytra on August 28, 2005, 01:26:41 am: Quote
Originally posted by aderet
wow, i just checked mine, and im wasting 1.25 gig. lol.
i\'ve been crashing too much...
maybe there should be an automatic delete everytime you update? just an idea.

This file doesn\'t grow when crashing. It grows while PS runs.
Anyway, I just automated deletion of psclient.txt upon launch of the client. Any dump that isn\'t uploaded by that time won\'t get uploaded, anyway, so no psclient.txt required, at least for me. YMMV
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Post by: DaveG on August 28, 2005, 05:53:21 am: There was some excess debug info stored in that thing, until recently. It ~should~ behave better. I\'ve had a size cap request sitting on bugtracker for a while... this\'ll fix the rest of the problem, if anyone ever gets around to it.
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Post by: Seytra on August 28, 2005, 06:37:05 am: It may behave better, but it still grows by 100KB each run. This means that you can\'t go three runs of PS and then upload psclient.txt to the dmp server. It\'s probably less of a space hog, though.
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Post by: Neryam on August 28, 2005, 09:34:44 am: Mabye everytime you close the program normally it would reset the psclient.txt.. but not when it crashes, so you would only be updating the thing for the time it crashed. :D
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Post by: DaveG on August 28, 2005, 10:35:33 am: Quote
Originally posted by Neryam
everytime you close the program normally

PlaneShift never closes \"normally\"... Have the thing open for a decent amount of time, and it\'s basically a vaguely controlled crash when you exit. :P
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Post by: Neryam on August 28, 2005, 10:40:30 am: Really?? lol :P

Well.. in that case, Mabye when you start it each time.. ?(
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Post by: Seytra on August 28, 2005, 11:36:51 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Neryam
Really?? lol :P

Well.. in that case, Mabye when you start it each time.. ?(

Which is what I\'m doing. :)

psclient.bat:
@echo off
del psclient.txt
del *.dmp
psclient
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Post by: Keyaz on August 29, 2005, 04:39:16 am: Quote
Originally posted by DaveG
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Originally posted by Seytra
not counting psclient.txt

Yeah... that log file can get out of control. Mine hit almost a half gig before I realized it... Um... delete the thing every now and again. :P

8o mother f.... frying eggs!

maybe i should like, check mine, i am missing a few gigs >.>
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Post by: Neryam on August 29, 2005, 09:20:57 am: Quote
Originally posted by Seytra
Which is what I\'m doing. :)

psclient.bat:
@echo off
del psclient.txt
del *.dmp
psclient

Oooh cool
Wait.. wheres psclient.bat? How do I do this? :D
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Post by: DaveG on August 29, 2005, 09:30:28 am: Quote
Originally posted by Neryam
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Originally posted by Seytra
Which is what I\'m doing. :)

psclient.bat:
@echo off
del psclient.txt
del *.dmp
psclient

Oooh cool
Wait.. wheres psclient.bat? How do I do this? :D

You make it yourself. Open notepad of something, and dump those lines in. Save it as psclient.bat in your planeshift folder. (specify *.* type to prevent it from forcing the txt type on you) Batch files (bat extension) are just a series of commands saved in a file, and run like a program.
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Post by: Drey on August 30, 2005, 12:14:29 pm: i cant wait to check mine when i get in... i think the last time i deleted it was when blue was \'testing\' rain... ages ago.
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Post by: Ecolem on August 31, 2005, 11:49:39 am: dear god
i didnt even know there was such a thing that logs your PS client like crazy!

Mines only 11mbs because i run disk clean up about once a week, last time i forgot for weeks and when i did it i freed about about 1.5 gbs just in old files!
I figger PS had something to do with it X(
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Post by: Drey on August 31, 2005, 11:52:32 am: it was only an unimpressive 52mb... :/

maybe because i reinstalled?
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Post by: Ecolem on August 31, 2005, 02:59:51 pm: well if you didnt copy your old psclient.txt then i would say so Drey :rolleyes:
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Post by: Drey on August 31, 2005, 03:04:28 pm: really? O_o

i would say \"hippopotamus\"
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Post by: Cooldewd on September 01, 2005, 02:41:36 am: Quote
Originally posted by Mercwyn
Why don\'t you guys zip the PS file to make it smaller? I had to reformat my HD and i lost the install file, i went to download it again and it says it\'s going to take 6 hours , What the hell is up with that?!

i zipped it and it didn\'t go any faster :(

edit.
edit.
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Post by: Drey on September 01, 2005, 10:13:57 am: what exactly did you zip..?
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Post by: Seytra on September 01, 2005, 07:49:47 pm: Quote
Originally posted by DaveG
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Originally posted by Neryam
Wait.. wheres psclient.bat? How do I do this? :D

You make it yourself. Open notepad of something, and dump those lines in. Save it as psclient.bat in your planeshift folder. (specify *.* type to prevent it from forcing the txt type on you) Batch files (bat extension) are just a series of commands saved in a file, and run like a program.

Don\'t forget to either change the location the PS link in your PS program group points to to psclient.bat instead of psclient.exe or create a new link, which gives you the option of chosing eaily.

@Drey: Good question... unless you\'d hack into the server and zip it there nothing you zip will affect your download, obviously. Also, as I said, I would be surprised if even that would change anything, since the file is zipped already, as just about any installer.
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Post by: Drey on September 02, 2005, 04:30:24 pm: hmm, i just has images of this \'Cooldewd\' compressing the installer somewhere once he had downloaded it....
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Post by: Cooldewd on September 09, 2005, 04:41:02 am: I did zip it and it still updaets slow :(

i gess it just takes time kinda like finding good weponds in diablo.

oh well, its ok because i\'m in now and have my big green troll man {actualy hes a woman, but he can still use clubs i think lol)

i\'m haveing fun lvling up now, i just wish things didnt kill me so easy or were easyer to get gold and stuff.
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Post by: DaveG on September 09, 2005, 05:20:07 am: Quote
Originally posted by Drey
what exactly did you zip..?
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Post by: dying_inside on September 23, 2005, 07:41:57 am: hehe. now this uis why the mac thing is good... well to a certain extent anyways. my psclient.cfg stayed the same i think. still 8 kb\'s. and i dont think i has been restored since playing the games for the first time. ( couple of updates ago ). wheee... unfortunatly mac client is all messed up right now. some bug wit the graphics card + os is making it go weird. i have a guild to get back too ! :( aaaaah well. dfryer and chaos are trying... hell if i could do better.
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Post by: DaveG on September 24, 2005, 04:57:42 am: We\'re talking about psclient.txt not cfg. And, for one reason or another, yes, it\'s not on the MAC...