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Gameplay => Newbie Help (Start Here) => Topic started by: Sylk on November 18, 2002, 03:18:53 am

Title: About Me
Post by: Sylk on November 18, 2002, 03:18:53 am

Hello all,
    I have been lurking about the boards from time to time today and decided it was time I introduced myself and say hi.

    I have played Asherons Call and Dark Age of Camelot in the past.  AC for over a year and was my first MMORPG love.  Then DAoC captured my attention.  DAoC, btw, is IMHO a game that \'almost got it perfect\' but fell short on a few very important (to me) features.  Those flaws made it frustrating and cost them my attention.

    So I\'m looking for a game to play and I find this one in the works.  And lo and behold if it isn\'t so young that the community (with some help from the Devs) could still make this game \"one of the greats\".  Of course, Im interested.

   I will keep an eye on this game.  I will even offer up my 2 cents worth from time to time.  And trolls be damned.

Sylk

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Post by: Kiern on November 18, 2002, 03:38:47 am

Welcome to the boards Sylk!

Make sure to stop by mIRC (planeshift.ath.cx #planeshift)

and Kada-el\'s BBB! (http://www.nomox.net/kadael/index.php)

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Post by: Vengeance on November 18, 2002, 05:32:55 am

Nice to have you here, Sylk.  :-)

What is your feedback about DAoC?  What were its flaws or shortcomings, in your mind?

-Vengeance

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Post by: TheGeneral on November 18, 2002, 08:35:55 am

Yeah, Welcome.
Glad you finally decided to post! :D

Title: DAoC Shortcomings
Post by: Sylk on November 18, 2002, 06:50:49 pm

Vengence,

DAoC had the right of it in the following ways:

1) Realm based PvP.  This is great, teams are an inherited part of the game.

2) 3 seperate realms with their own races with their own unique strengths and weaknesses.

3) Siege warfare and territory wars that make active guilds truly valuable.

They fell short when implementing... The first 3 corospond to the 3 \"good\" points above.

1) They locked each realm away from each other and only allow PvP in \'frontier lands\'.  They should allow home territory invasions servers instead of the \'Hard Core-all-vs-all\" server that they did implement.

2) When the game started each realm had a strength or weakness in it.  But then the players demanded that if Midgards main tank could do something so should Hibernias tank.  This should not have happend.  It should be Okay for one realm to be better than another in melee but make up for it in magic or stealth or speed.  NOT all races should be created equally.  Just balanced.

3) Then they added all these battlegrounds and Frontier combat lost its fun since half the server was safely locked away in battlegrounds that only a small percent of the server population could get into.

Okay, and this is the end all big reason why DAoC fell short.

COLLISION DETECTION!!!!!

Consider this.  You have a tight mountain pass blocked by a wall with a gate large enough for about 4 characters abreast to get through.

The defenders put a line of tanks right in front of the door.  Healers and support types behind the tanks and archers and mages behind the healers.  Archers and mages on the walls as well.

It should take a much larger force to take the wall.  EXCEPT.... No collision detection.  The invading army charges through the gate, run right through the tanks slaughters the healers and mages on the ground, climbs the wall and kills archers and mages up there too.  All because the enemy can run right through your tanks in-game model...

Rank and File strategy is worthless in DAoC but historicaly the tactics I described to defend the wall would hold against superior numbers for quite a while.

Well, there you go Vengence.  You asked. hehehe.

Let me know if you want to hear me rant about something else sometime.

Sylk

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Post by: Kendaro on November 18, 2002, 07:55:06 pm

Very good points there, also very informative, as well as things to keep in mind while looking into handling those areas.

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Post by: Veretta Hayes on November 18, 2002, 08:15:45 pm

Hello and Welcome to the Boards Sylk! :D

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Post by: Link on November 18, 2002, 09:54:29 pm

Hi New Person, I am Link. I will be watching you!

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Post by: TheGeneral on November 19, 2002, 01:03:47 am

Quote

Originally posted by Link
Hi New Person, I am Link. I will be watching you!

It\'s not as funny, as it is scary and true.

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Post by: Sylk on November 19, 2002, 01:46:11 am

ROFLMAO

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Post by: Fiere on November 19, 2002, 07:09:55 pm

A belated welcome to you Sylk ! :)

Enjoy your stay.

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Post by: Kada-El on November 19, 2002, 08:06:13 pm

Another belated welcome Sylk ;)

Come join me for a drink in the tavern forum sometime, be great to see you there.

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Post by: Funhouse on November 19, 2002, 11:20:48 pm

HA I have the most belated welcome of all!


...well, that is untill someone else posts. So don\'t post!  ;)

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Post by: Link on November 19, 2002, 11:48:58 pm

Welcome again, I am still watching you.

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Post by: Pheonix on November 20, 2002, 12:32:47 am

Newest most belated welcome of them all

Welcome

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Post by: Princess Aelya on November 20, 2002, 01:48:48 am

And yet another new and even more belated welcome from me.

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Post by: Cyonamie on November 20, 2002, 02:10:32 am

I WIN! o wait i gotta say it first
belated welcome :D
wheres my prize?

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Post by: Pheonix on November 20, 2002, 02:16:55 am

Well I was gonna  give Cyo what he deserves a swift kick in the nuts......but I wont for fear that this thread will turn into another pointless one.
Then again....what the heck.
**Kicks Cyo in the nuts**

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Post by: Kiern on November 20, 2002, 03:49:07 am

**Thinks pheonix is trying too hard**

;)