PlaneShift
Support => Technical Help: Problems BEFORE entering the game => Topic started by: Gunlex on October 30, 2005, 08:12:31 pm
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I noticed someone else getting this error, and i dont understand why it\'s happening, i did everything that was supposed to be done.
Time of test: 10/30/05
OS: Windows XP
Processor: P4 1.8GHz
RAM: 384mb
Video Card: Radeon 9250
Video Card Memory: 256mb
PS Client Version: 0.3.011
OpenGL or Safe Mode: OpenGL?
Description of the bug: I ran the updater, then tried to open the game \"PlaneShift - Tech Demo\" and as soon as the black screen comes up it says:
\"Something unexpected happened in PlaneShift: Crystal Blue Details: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION at 0051F91A
Would you like to save a diagnostic file?\"
[Yes] [No]
please help!
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Go to Planeshift Setup:
All Programs-Planeshift-Planeshift Setup and ensure that you\'ve sound disabled. Try relaunching it again.
If it keeps failing, try checking if load all maps is enabled, and finally try to update your graphic cards drivers to the last version avaiable.
Good luck.
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ok, the sound is off, and i\'m sure my drivers are fine, and i did the map thingy, and it still doesnt work.
but when i put it in full screen mode, it doesnt give me the error box, just a windows error report message....
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You are not alone Gunlex. See my thread \"something unexpected happened\"
The man who solved the problem first tells it to the other one. OK?
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did you solve the problem?
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Hi everybody.
I\'ve got the same problem. I\'ve downloaded the game from the mirror. At the first start it launched and I went to the login screen. Than I did the update. After the update I can\'t start the game anymore. in the console Iget the message:
WARNING: could not load plugin \'crystalspace.sndsys.manager\'
Than I get the EXEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION at 0051F91A
I tried everything, no sound, different graphic settings, different sound settings. I\'m sure that I have the latest drivers.
Time of test: 10-30-05
OS: Xp-SP2
Processor: AMD 3000
RAM: 512 MB
Video Card: radeon 9700 Pro
Video Card Memory: 128
PS Client Version: latest
OpenGL or Safe Mode: OpenGL
There seems something wrong with the last update, or why did it fwork with the older files?
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i also get that:
WARNING: could not load plugin \'crystalspace.sndsys.manager\'
this sux.
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I wonder if it is the Radeon cards, you both have radeons right?
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I didnt\'t solve the problem. Think we must wait until next year. But I would like to play. Never played but it seemed to be very nice.
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I also get the same error, however i have a nvidia card, Though i did notice something in common, i too downloaded the game from the first mirror instead of bittorent (56k didn\'t want to DL more stuff).
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yah, same here....think there could be something wrong with it?
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thats what im thinking, would hate to have to re DL it though... took me 3 days the first time... maybe somone can identify the files that are corrupted and post them somewhere...
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Someone help us! isnt there any moderators or administrators that know this stuff?
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/me kicks computer
I have too fallen victim to this new bug...
/me cries cause foot hurts
Someone please find solution...
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Originally posted by Gunlex
WARNING: could not load plugin \'crystalspace.sndsys.manager\'
Wait... what the hell?... o.O We aren\'t using that sound renderer... Edit your pclient.cfg and find this line:
System.PlugIns.iSoundManager = planeshift.sound.soundmanager
And make it look like that, instead of whatever it looks like now.
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That doesn\'t help my problem...Just to recap my problem....I been playin PS then updated it and now it doesn\'t work...tried sound didn\'t work...drivers up to date an all...somehting in update made the problem...pleaaaaaase someone help...I would greatly appreciate it...
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i\'ve noticed that when i run the update it keeps downloading the same 2 files...wtf?
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Dave, that line you said to change, that\'s what it already says...
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Well Gunlex...looks like we are on our own...:(...no one cares...
/me cries self to sleep...
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If you think that not getting an immediate fix/answer means that no one gives a damn, you\'re in for a big disappointment in PlaneShift. Things don\'t just magically happen. Yes there are bugs and yes there are annoying problems, but they are being tackled, especially if they prevent people from playing at all. Just relax for a bit, and think positive ;)
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Yah, im in no big rush, i can play guild wars till it\'s fixed =P
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Yea same here :P, spiecal holloween event :D
(Ingame name is Din Fea)
Just want to know, is anyone looking into this or are we somewhat fending for ourselves right now hopeing somone stumbles on the fix?
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same problem
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1) Gunlex: Somewhere you are trying to access sndsys, which is wrong. Search within your PlaneShift directory\'s files for the word \"sndsys\". (just use the Windows search, and search within the files) It\'s either there somewhere, or there is a glitch in one of the programs. We haven\'t switched over to the new CS sound renderer yet.
2) The updater is having issues. Just ignore those last 2 files for the time being.
3) Grndmasta: Learn some freakin\' patience.
4) Daefaroth: The issue here is that most devs don\'t read the forums, with good reason... And, this is a new problem. Additionally, as I already said, be patient. We\'re not clarvoiyant, and things don\'t get fixed instantly, especially when we get rambling dins of threads like these. These forums can become a polluted mess, and sometimes you\'re lucky we\'re as nice as we are...
Here\'s how all of these threads go:
A) 2 possibilities:
a) A coherent post with lots of information
b) A whiny un-readable mess.
(usually the latter, but not in this case)
B) One of the MANY helpful people on the forums posts a generic (and often surprisingly effective) set of solutions. (Nilrem was your helper monkey this time around :) )
C) 3 possibilities:
a) Fixed; done.
b) Fixed; moron. => Try and explain what to do, again.
c) Not fixed. => Continue.
D) Next they\'ll be a round of pot shots, with useless chatter mixed in. (see above)
E) Someone who knows the slightest clue at what they are doing (but not in this particular area :P ) will discover what\'s wrong and try to fix the issue. ( hi o/ )
F) More useless chatter, complaints, whining. Panic ensues, as everyone in the thread thinks that was the end of it... because it seems they all LIVE here, and expect instant replys.
G) The person(s) attempting to help point out that their first suggestion may have been along the correct path, and we just need more info. ( hi o/ )
H) 3 possibilities:
a) Endless waiting, and more chatter.
b) Response, but no more info. => Nothing to work with.
c) Response with more info. => Continue.
I) Repeat \'E\' through \'H\' until head explodes, a solution is found, or the whiny people with problems (if A.b) give up and stop providing the info we need to actually figure out what the hell is going on...
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srry for being impatient...its just i spent several hours downloading game then downlaoding updates to find out i can\'t play...(dial-up)...i understand it takes time to fix problems and i for some reason thought the problem should be *boom* gone...so again srry and i will try to react in a more mature manner...
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Like wise, also my referance to if anyone is working on this problem was realy only a sad attempt to keep my post on topic :D Realy didn\'t mean any offence by it. So if i upseted you or anyone else, im sorry.
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Appologies accepted. I know this can be frustrating, but its far more frustrating for whomever ends up having to fix these things... :P Old bugs are usually fixed rather quickly as you were hoping, but this is new, so it will take some digging.
What we have:
The client is loading the newer sound render from CS, which PS has not yet switched to. It is also trying to load the sound renderer when sound is supposed to be disabled. (2nd part is a new version of an old bug)
What we need:
What is telling it to do this? I need someone who is getting that specific error to scan all of their PS files for the word \"sndsys\", and tell me where it is. (if you can\'t find it by scanning text within files, it\'s in the source) The first thing I\'ll do when I get home, is scan my files and the source. (not at home, right now; I\'ll have my electronics lab for a while) I\'ll find where it\'s doing something stupid (hopefully) and kill it. If it\'s something not in the source, I\'ll tell you how to fix it; if it\'s in the source, I\'ll put the fix in it, and you\'ll get the fix in the next update. (possibly a small update, within a week or so, if need be) However, I know Rhad is working on the sound stuffs, and if this is all due to something REALLY psycotic, you\'ll just have to wait until that gets finished.
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@ DaveG: can\'t find \"sndsys\" by scanning so it seems to be in the source.
Hope you\'ll fix the bug soon.
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Ok, i understand how to scan the files, but is there any files in general that should be scanned? it will take a long time to scan them all...a certain type maybe?
-BTW, thanks for all your help so far!
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\"sndsys\" isn\'t in the normal PS stuff, or it\'s source... It\'s a CS issue, apparently... crap...
Ok, anyone who gets:
WARNING: could not load plugin \'crystalspace.sndsys.manager\'
specifically, not just the error number, quote your entire psclient.cfg here, please.
Edited to add:
Before I go insane... this IS a typo, isn\'t it?...
Originally posted by Gunlex
PS Client Version: 0.3.011
I best not be trying to fix a fictional bug here... :P PLEASE, tell me you\'ve updated to 0.3.012...
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I have updated to the complete new version...including the three failure files...(the trep.cal3d, updater and .dll)...If that helps any...
EDIT: Just a thought...In the middle of downloading the new update i had to switch to the backup mirror...not sure if that could\'ve had something to do with it mabey...
EDIT PART 2: I also see this lil\' message in a psclient text file...\"Warning: Cannot initialize iSoundManager\"...again not sure but i can\'t find anything that might be different...again thanks for the help...
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Yes, i\'ve updated to 0.3.012, and here is my psclient.cfg:
System.ApplicationID = psclient
; *******************
; * Part 1: PlugIns *
; *******************
; NB1: An entry in the plug-in list looks like this:
;
; System.PlugIns.FuncID = PluginName
;
; FuncID defines the functionality ID of the plugin.
; No FuncID may be used twice or more.
; Some parts of CS use this to distinguish between several plugins that
; export the same interface. For example, if you need a secondary 3d driver
; (which means: any additional plugin that implements the iGraphics3d
; interface) for some reason, CS will not be able to find out which one you
; want to use for the engine. CS will then look for the standard FuncID for
; the 3d driver. Be sure to use the correct FuncID for the drivers. If you
; use other FuncIDs, CS will not use these drivers for the engine (however,
; you can still use them if you ask for the correct FuncID, or if you accept
; any FuncID).
;
; NB2: a specific driver can be ommited, if it is not used.
; For example, if you just ommit the sound renderer, you will
; simply hear no sound, but the program will still run
;
; NB3: Plugins will be loaded in the same order they are listed
; here. This means that if, for example, a plugin needs the video
; driver during his initialization, it should come *after*
; video driver in the following section.
; First of all, the Virtual File System plug-in
System.PlugIns.iVFS = crystalspace.kernel.vfs
; Video Driver
System.PlugIns.iGraphics3D = crystalspace.graphics3d.opengl
; Document parser
System.Plugins.iDocumentSystem = crystalspace.documentsystem.multiplexer
System.Plugins.iDocumentSystem.1 = crystalspace.documentsystem.xmlread
System.Plugins.iDocumentSystem.2 = crystalspace.documentsystem.binary
; Image Loader
System.PlugIns.iImageIO = crystalspace.graphic.image.io.multiplexer
; Level Loader
System.PlugIns.iLoader = crystalspace.level.loader
; Binary Sprite Loader
System.PlugIns.iLoaderPlugin = crystalspace.mesh.loader.factory.sprite.3d.binary
; Sound Loader
;System.PlugIns.iSoundLoader.MP3 = crystalspace.sound.loader.mp3
;System.PlugIns.iSoundLoader.AIFF = crystalspace.sound.loader.aiff
;System.PlugIns.iSoundLoader.AU = crystalspace.sound.loader.au
;System.PlugIns.iSoundLoader.IFF = crystalspace.sound.loader.iff
System.PlugIns.iSoundLoader = crystalspace.sound.loader.multiplexer
; Now the Engine plug-in
System.PlugIns.iEngine = crystalspace.engine.3d
; Additional plugins come here
;System.PlugIns.iScript = crystalspace.script.python
;System.PlugIns.iPerfstat = crystalspace.utilities.perfstat
System.PlugIns.iCollideSystem = crystalspace.collisiondetection.opcode
;System.PlugIns.iFontServer = crystalspace.font.server.default
;System.PlugIns.iFontServer = crystalspace.font.server.freetype2
; For using font multiplexer, uncomment the following three lines
System.PlugIns.iFontServer = crystalspace.font.server.multiplexer
System.PlugIns.iFontServer.1 = crystalspace.font.server.freetype2
System.PlugIns.iFontServer.2 = crystalspace.font.server.default
Fontplex.Fonts.Default.*Fallback = /this/data/ttf/arial.ttf
System.PlugIns.iSoundManager = planeshift.sound.soundmanager
; ******************
; * Part 2: Config *
; ******************
VFS.Config = vfs.cfg
Engine.Lighting.Ambient.White = 30
Engine.Lighting.Ambient.Red = 0
Engine.Lighting.Ambient.Green = 0
Engine.Lighting.Ambient.Blue = 0
Engine.Lighting.LightmapSize = 16
Engine.Lighting.Reflections = 2
Engine.Lighting.CosinusFactor = 0
Engine.Lighting.Radiosity = no
Engine.Lighting.SpriteQuality = 1
Engine.Lighting.Radiosity.Enable = no
Engine.Lighting.Radiosity.DoStaticSpecular = no
Engine.Lighting.Radiosity.StaticSpecularAmount = 0.70
Engine.Lighting.Radiosity.StaticSpecularTightness = 4
Engine.Lighting.Radiosity.ColourBleed = 1.0
Engine.Lighting.Radiosity.StopPriority = 0.1
Engine.Lighting.Radiosity.StopImprovement = 100.0
Engine.Lighting.Radiosity.StopIterations = 10000
Engine.Lighting.Radiosity.SourcePatchSize = 16
; Use libshm if available (X-Windows only)
Video.XSHM = yes
; Simulate another depth (supported only by some video drivers)
;Video.SimulateDepth = 8
; Use system mouse cursor (yes) or software-simulated (no)
Video.SystemMouseCursor = yes
System.Win32.DebugConsole = yes
; Double click time in 1/1000 seconds
MouseDriver.DoubleClickTime = 300
; Maximal distance that mouse can move between clicks for double click to occur
MouseDriver.DoubleClickDist = 2
; For now its used only in DOS/DJGPP port
MouseDriver.MouseSensivity = 1.0
; ******************
; * Part 3: Game *
; ******************
Planeshift.Mount.zipmapdir = /this/art/world/
Planeshift.Mount.modelzip = /this/art/models.zip
Planeshift.Mount.weaponzip = /this/art/things/weapons.zip
Planeshift.Mount.itemzip = /this/art/things/items.zip
Planeshift.Mount.azurezip = /this/art/things/azure_way.zip
Planeshift.Mount.bluezip = /this/art/things/blue_way.zip
Planeshift.Mount.brownzip = /this/art/things/brown_way.zip
Planeshift.Mount.crystalzip = /this/art/things/crystal_way.zip
Planeshift.Mount.darkzip = /this/art/things/dark_way.zip
Planeshift.Mount.redzip = /this/art/things/red_way.zip
Planeshift.Mount.potionszip = /this/art/things/potions.zip
Planeshift.Mount.moneyzip = /this/art/things/money.zip
Planeshift.Mount.bookszip = /this/art/things/books.zip
Planeshift.Mount.shieldszip = /this/art/things/shields.zip
Planeshift.Mount.toolszip = /this/art/things/tools.zip
Planeshift.Mount.naturalreszip = /this/art/things/naturalres.zip
Planeshift.Mount.foodzip = /this/art/things/food.zip
; number of seconds before timeout
Planeshift.Client.User.Connecttimeout = 10
Planeshift.Client.User.Persisttimeout = 10
Planeshift.Language = english
Video.OpenGL.StencilThreshold = 50
Planeshift.Client.Loading.AllMaps = true
Planeshift.Client.Loading.KeepMaps = false
Planeshift.GUI.Skin.Ingame = default
Video.OpenGL.MultisampleFavorQuality = false
Video.OpenGL.MultiSamples = 0
Video.OpenGL.TextureFilterAnisotropy = 1
Video.OpenGL.TextureDownsample = 0
Sound.ds3d.StreamingBufferLength = 0.5
Video.OpenGL.UseExtension.GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object = false
i hope it helps! =P
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(I really should\'a only asked for the plugins part ;) )
Nothing funky in there... yep... CS prob. :/ The exit crashes (if you get those) also have sndsys in their pile. Time to poke someone from CS land... I\'ll get back to you...
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I get the same error when i tried to download the game on another computer. i tried to update the game again and noticed it stops at 99% at the file ibmng-cs.dll
So maybe that is the problem there...
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i had the same problem, but after turning off the sound and choosing a skin in the setup file, it stated working
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As already mentioned, the updater has junk in it, at the moment. Just ignore the broken files, for now.
xilad: Hmm... odd. Ok, Gunlex, do what he said. You already have sound off, but try selecting a new skin (and/or reselecting your current skin) in pssetup. Weirder things have happened... (though, it was probably a coincidence)
In all likelyhood, those affected will have to wait a bit on this one...
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OMG!!!!!....not going to belive this but changing my skin to stone actually WORKS!!!!!...no clue why but it does...xilad your a lifesaver...
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me too. Changed the skin to stone and it works. Now I can enter the game for teh first time. I am so excited
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I also have this problem, but switching skins didn\'t help. (sound was already off) Looks like I\'ll have to wait until a fix is found.
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How in the hell?!... o.O
/me head explodes
Ok, somehow the skin is connected to a not yet implemented CS sound thingy... now, that\'s just strange...
J) Problem is fixed by someone finding a solution via dumb luck. (hey, beggers can\'t be choosers ;) )
Grndmasta: Does the bug come back if you switch skins back?
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Yep, mines fixed too! THANKS!!
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Well i switched back to default skin an there is not problem gettin on...This is by far the weirdest bug yet...
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Guys, guys... :D YES! YES! YES! The solution to the problem is, run the \'pssetup.exe\' file, and instead of just that map, sound, card, etc. nonsense, do this. ( :D :D )
Change the skin to \'stone\'. And that\'s it!!! You can also change back to default or elves, and it\'ll still work. I\'m not sure about any other solutions, but this is *The Solution*. How does this n00b know? I\'m one of the few people who had this ridiculous problem. ;)
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Darn it!! This is a 3-page thread... I didn\'t know that.... So it\'s a bit late for my post I just made.... Darn it. I thought, newest post - gunlex? No way, it\'s karyuu!
Well, I\'m hopeless in forums, I guess. :)
*Edit*
Hey, the upside to this stupid problem is, I think we\'re all at least lessers now with all those meaningless posts! Yay :]
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Hey, sometimes someone just stumbles onto the \"solution\" and we roll with it. :D It\'s not really a fix; there\'s obviously something stupid going on that needs to be fixed still. However, if it let\'s you play, great.