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Title: Why To Play WOW
Post by: lilyve on November 10, 2005, 12:35:54 am
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Turn your graphics on high, since by default they are set to low.
This game allows you to immerse yourself into a fantasy world.
You may find the artistic display of colors and graphics amazing.
In this day and age when computer graphics are still primitive
for gaming, you will see that artistic talent blended with style
and technology produce an effect in this game that is nostalgic.
The only downsides to this game that I have found thus far
would be the strict manner of Game Masters enforcing their
PG-13 views on most everyone. The other downside would
be the recent nerfing of several high end game classes.
I believe the recent nerfing is to better balance link removed
for the up and coming battle grounds additions soon to come.

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Post by: Halvord on November 10, 2005, 12:37:06 am
Sorry, wrong forum to post in.  I think you want this. http://www.planeshift3d.com/wbboard/board.php?boardid=19&sid=703b69758b000d4d63bde86452fdad21
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Post by: Karyuu on November 10, 2005, 12:42:25 am
Please don\'t spam with advertisements in the PlaneShift forum :) This post is alright (since it has been moved) as it could start a discussion on other games, but your other post was pure spam. Tsk.
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Post by: Keyaz on November 10, 2005, 12:42:30 am
why play WoW

because oyu like to waste money


well, that was an easy question
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Post by: Kiern on November 10, 2005, 12:47:46 am
WoW is just like any other MMORPG out there, incredibly boring.

I\'ll stick with Perfect Dark on the 64, thank you.
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Post by: Xordan on November 10, 2005, 12:48:09 am
WoW rocks :P Well worth the money imo.

Edit: *attacks Kiern with a pointy stick*
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Post by: Karyuu on November 10, 2005, 12:51:42 am
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WoW is just like any other MMORPG out there, incredibly boring.


Pfft, Ryzom isn\'t like that :\\

*hugs Ryzom defensively*
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Post by: Valbrandr on November 10, 2005, 01:10:56 am
I used to play WoW.. and though it is one of the better P2P games I am glad that I left.  On the server I was on there were nearly 3 times as many alliance players as horde.  I know, if I were on a different server it would have been different.. but just too many high level alliance players raiding Horde territory and controlling places like Booty Bay :(... which overall it just ruins the experience.  I would constantly get killed at low levels by players much higher because there is no limit on what lvl you can attack like there is even in EQ.  Now when I quit the honor system was just being added... but atleast at the beginning of it nothing changed... and when it gets down to it there are too few races and classes to keep me happy :P.  Oh and I think there should be three auction houses for the horde instead of one.. that is all linked together with the same items and whatnot.. that would help all the damn lag in Ogrimmar :).

Edit: not that it was a huge deal at the time... but there is no RP there whatsoever.
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Post by: Kiern on November 10, 2005, 01:18:07 am
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Originally posted by Kiern
WoW is just like any other MMORPG out there, incredibly boring.


Pfft, Ryzom isn\'t like that :\\

*hugs Ryzom defensively*


Do you play Planeshift?

If so, case closed.. :baby:

I actually did play WoW however, for free (my roommate had it), it still wasn\'t worth the little time I spent on it and resembled every other game I played 5 years ago with better graphics.
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Post by: acraig on November 10, 2005, 01:25:03 am
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I used to play WoW.. and though it is one of the better P2P games I am glad that I left.  On the server I was on there were nearly 3 times as many alliance players as horde.


The same is on the server I play but the horde are better.  I got my dwarf warrior up to 60 and hit the battlegrounds.  After getting totally wtfpwnd in almost every battleground by the horde I rolled a shammy ( yeah, I\'m cheap I know it... )...

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  Oh and I think there should be three auction houses for the horde instead of one.. that is all linked together with the same items and whatnot.. that would help all the damn lag in Ogrimmar :).


I take it you\'ve never experienced the joy that is Lagforge, I mean Ironforge?
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Post by: Valbrandr on November 10, 2005, 01:40:40 am
I was a member of the Horde on Tichondrius.  

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I take it you\'ve never experienced the joy that is Lagforge, I mean Ironforge?


No I had the pleassure of being in Orgrimarrrrrrrrrrrr.  Yeah.. I have a pretty good comp and as soon as I would walk in or warp back there or whatever I had to wait atleast a minute waiting for everything to load :(... Everyone would stay in Orgrimmar because it had teh only auction house for us and I feel your pain about Ironforge.  


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The same is on the server I play but the horde are better. I got my dwarf warrior up to 60 and hit the battlegrounds. After getting totally wtfpwnd in almost every battleground by the horde I rolled a shammy ( yeah, I\'m cheap I know it... )...


Hehe we always liked to say we were better :P... but since I was playing with a friend (and there is a lack of classes I like) I was a Warrior.  Only got up to lvl 45 with him until I eventually quit.. but man it sucked getting caught out by myself :(.. yeah I got owned enough :(.. and I am too nice to never attack someone while they are engaged with a monster that I would hardly ever get kills... I even went hunting with a few alliance players here and there... cant we all just get along :P
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Post by: WiseKran on November 10, 2005, 01:59:04 am
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  I checked out the site the OP left, it sells gold and power leveling. In WoW, Blizzard clearly states that the purchasing of anything belonging to the server Ex. Gold or Items is Illegal. As is power-leveling services.

Please read this
(http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/1386/untitled8rp.jpg)

I have the complete Unedited image in WoW screenshot format if anyone wants to verify.

OP needs to be banned or recieve a strict warning[/color]. Im firm in my stance that Online RPG\'s need to remain pure of this sort of thing, I think it pullutes the game economy and ruins it for others when people do this
(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5166/untitled8yt.png)
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strict manner of Game Masters enforcing their
PG-13 views on most everyone.


bs,  There is no visible game masters in the game, They only moderate chat channels and Never ever say a word. They dont reprimand or warn or anything, upon violation you will recieve and e-mail and perhaps an account suspension.  Game masters can only be spoken to if you submit a tag

dont say anything unless you know its true

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WoW is good, but its not that much different than other MMO\'s

and the Original poster is tottaly BS\'ing.

Its not immersive, one of a kind, Nastalgic or some magical game in a sea of outdated graphics.

I Played it and liked it well, I had a 60 ally rogue and a 60 horde hunter

I just canceled my account 3 days ago because there wasnt enough content or classes to keep my happy. but it was a great mmorpg by most standards.


something tells me the OP has never played WoW, or just started, or is being payed to say so. heh
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Phew im done /end rant
Grrr rawr.  bad day..  had to tear some one apart >.< thank god for the edit button

Id like to top it all off with this http://ohcameron.ytmnd.com/
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Post by: Uyaem on November 10, 2005, 08:08:24 am
WoW has a weird movement system, and I seriously can\'t see why everyone likes the graphics so much. The whole world feels unrealistic, so many bright and sparkly colours that fill up the entire screen - then again, it\'s just a matter of taste. I already didn\'t like the graphics in Warcraft III all that much.

The good thing is that it\'s very performant, easy to learn (The GUI is really concise, as in \"good layout\" andnot much on it), and I never had any performance-related lag (like in, say EQII :rolleyes: ).

About the \"selling items for real world money\": I seriously believe that ruins things for those, who already have to think twice whether to pay their account for another month.
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Post by: Drey on November 10, 2005, 10:31:18 am
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Originally posted by Xordan
WoW rocks :P Well worth the money imo.

Edit: *attacks Kiern with a pointy stick*


\\o/

also horde sucks

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I take it you\'ve never experienced the joy that is Lagforge, I mean Ironforge?

:D

/me quotes himself after running to ironforge all the way from teldrassil  \"w00t lag!\"

and another thing, like pogo and others, its totaly stupid to buy items it defeats the idea of the game. finally the cost isnt really that much
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Post by: Ecolem on November 10, 2005, 12:39:04 pm
Anyone who even thinks about buying graphic game money with real money are ding bats and all the sellers outa be sent to jail for ever. X(

What a waist of money...
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Post by: seperot on November 10, 2005, 03:24:12 pm
I personally love WoW and currently hate myself for not buying it sooner... every time i feel like the games getting a bit same ol same ol i find out something new and joy fills me once more...infact the only thing i hate is lagforge...i will go out of my way to avoid that place if possible, i just cant work out why so many people stand around there doing nothing or duel...it maken no sence...

on a final note.... Druids rock! expecially travel form \\o/
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Post by: Drey on November 10, 2005, 08:34:16 pm
one thing with ironforge, i always seem to end up in that ditch thing. i dont think i have ever been there with out paying it a visit. also i always find it odd how one second you can be running one way then get hit by some lag and be facing the totaly opposite direction next second...
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Post by: Xordan on November 10, 2005, 09:54:22 pm
Plenty of rp on my server. Guess that\'s why it\'s called a rp server :P And I almost always win battlegrounds, usually 3-0 in WSG. It\'s good to be part of the hoard. :D
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Post by: AendarCallenlasse on November 18, 2005, 04:22:56 am
Val: If you didn\'t like being killed why\'d you join a PvP server?

And the AH thing is being implemented in the next big patch.

I happen to like WoW a lot.  I find it\'s better than most out there because of the atmosphere.  I don\'t have to run around killing stuff all day there\'s more to the game than that.  And I like that.

P.S.  On the whole money/game issue.  I know a guy who maxed out all jobs in FFXI and sold the character for $3000
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Post by: Valbrandr on November 18, 2005, 06:09:47 am
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Val: If you didn\'t like being killed why\'d you join a PvP server?


I know it sounds funny... but one of my best friends played and he got me into it.  Hes even more of a gamer than I am and if you play on the Zek server in EQ, if you have played long enough, you will know False Hope :P.. yeah not the best of reasons.. but I was just trying to spend time with a good friend.
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Post by: Drey on November 18, 2005, 10:42:32 am
heres a little story of why i play WoW

when we (me and my friends) were coming up to like the end of year 11 we had been planning to find some game we could all play together, we used to spend hours having the biggest battles ever on staw wars galactic battle grounds. with WoW coming we decided it should be that. then we found out we needed to pay to play and were all like that sucks. then in the end we bought it anyway after much shouting at from one of us who bought it first. there is still one of us who did not join us in WoW but still even if we are not bahing things there is a lot to do... we have out Elite Questing Squad, we spent about two hours getting a hordie alt (tramrat) from undead lands to the tram then we got bored and killed him.

yeah... im in lessons and a little bored :|
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Post by: yayoo on November 19, 2005, 12:24:08 am
I dont have the money to play any pay 2 play games. :(
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Post by: zanzibar on November 19, 2005, 12:44:24 am
Sorry if it\'s been said, but there are tonnes of free WoW servers out there.  I don\'t know exactly how it works.  Chances are, you can\'t use the same characters that you have on the pay servers.
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Post by: WiseKran on November 19, 2005, 01:32:05 am
Nope you cant..

and free servers are laggy..

only have a population of like 100 people.. so youll never do the endgame.

youll never find anything good on the auction house

and lots of bugs

and to top it all of.. there is ramifications if you are caught
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Post by: zanzibar on November 19, 2005, 01:58:07 am
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Nope you cant..

and free servers are laggy..

only have a population of like 100 people.. so youll never do the endgame.

youll never find anything good on the auction house

and lots of bugs

and to top it all of.. there is ramifications if you are caught



Let me guess, Blizzard retracts their liscensing to you of the client software? :)  Ah, intellectual property rights...
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Post by: Xordan on November 19, 2005, 02:00:49 am
And free servers don\'t have any of the fun quests. :) I never have to powerlevel in WoW to do things. Completing quests, playing with my guild in the battlegrounds, roleplaying, crafting, and exploring all work nicely with each other so that you never get bored and you\'re never forced to spend hours just killing the same monster over and over again.
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Post by: Trinx on November 19, 2005, 09:43:51 am
It may be cool  but there is just no way I will pay $10 a month to play a game and then even have to buy the game to start with.

I\'ll stick with either free MMORPG\'s or buy once and then free MMORPG\'s like Guild Wars.
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Post by: Drey on November 19, 2005, 09:56:58 am
i still dont think ?8 a month is alot of money really.
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Post by: Ashamn on November 19, 2005, 10:35:55 am
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I\'ll stick with either free MMORPG\'s or buy once and then free MMORPG\'s like Guild Wars.


Guild Wars isnt a MMORPG  :P

I used to play it (GW) until the stupid nerfs appeared and screwed everyting. Then most of my guildies there returned to WoW and so I decided to try it :D

The most annoying thing in WoW isnt the lagg.. It\'s the waiting time. Some times to play on my server I have to wait for 30 mins in queue..

Anyway.. It worths  ;)
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Post by: Xordan on November 19, 2005, 11:29:44 am
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i still dont think ?8 a month is alot of money really.


It\'s worth it for the fun :) That\'s like 4 PC games a year.
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Post by: zanzibar on November 19, 2005, 09:07:02 pm
Why not to play WoW:


- There are intellectual and artistic pursuits which are more rewarding in the long run.

- The money adds up after a while.

- If you stop paying, you stop playing.

- If you stop playing, you fall behind your friends.

- Zanzibar doesn\'t play it.
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Post by: AendarCallenlasse on November 19, 2005, 09:32:32 pm
When I want to eat I buy food.
When I wanna drive I buy gas.
When I wanna surf the web I pay for internet.

When I wanna play an MMORPG I pay for it.

Unlike the PS devs, the WoW developers don\'t have other jobs.  This is their job so it\'s not crazy or underhanded for them to charge to play it.

It\'s a great game.  And worth the money.  Which is like $15 a month.  I\'m a college student with no job, eating Ramen and frozen meals an I still pay to play the game.  It\'s not a lot of money.
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Post by: zanzibar on November 19, 2005, 10:10:14 pm
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When I want to eat I buy food.
When I wanna drive I buy gas.
When I wanna surf the web I pay for internet.

When I wanna play an MMORPG I pay for it.

Unlike the PS devs, the WoW developers don\'t have other jobs.  This is their job so it\'s not crazy or underhanded for them to charge to play it.

It\'s a great game.  And worth the money.  Which is like $15 a month.  I\'m a college student with no job, eating Ramen and frozen meals an I still pay to play the game.  It\'s not a lot of money.



And they ensure that they keep their jobs by dissallowing independant and free servers.
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Post by: AendarCallenlasse on November 19, 2005, 10:16:35 pm
Exactly.  There\'s nothing wrong with that.  If they did allow it they would lose money, and people there would lose their jobs.
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Post by: Drey on November 20, 2005, 02:47:30 am
and the people kind of spend money and work and effort to keep it running and make it in the first place, so why shouldnt they charge for it.
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Post by: zanzibar on November 20, 2005, 05:54:15 am
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and the people kind of spend money and work and effort to keep it running and make it in the first place, so why shouldnt they charge for it.




Well, in any business I question whether the guys doing the work are the same people seeing the money, especially when it comes to computer programers and systems managers.
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Post by: Waylander on November 20, 2005, 06:36:45 am
Meh, it is not worth the money in my HIGH opinion.  I played both that and guild wars.

Guild Wars is cheaper and slightly worse, it bores me.

WoW...not that good in the end...better than galaxies...I tried that out...blah
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Post by: playerturbo on December 18, 2005, 06:22:04 pm
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Post by: WiseKran on December 18, 2005, 07:26:50 pm
Edited for courtesy.

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Post by: Karyuu on December 18, 2005, 08:11:53 pm
Instead of wasting your nerves and time replying in such a manner, when you know that it will achieve absolutely nothing, report the post (as you and several others have done) and hang back :)
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Post by: yayoo on December 18, 2005, 08:13:06 pm
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 mount your head on a pike in front of my house


You should acually hide the head unless you live in a Kingdom atop the clouds.
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Post by: Nebuduck on December 18, 2005, 08:16:48 pm
Mmh... I would play wow if:

I could be bothered to get it to run in linux.

I could afford it (I currently own a whopping ?3.30)

I thought I would get value for money (I wouldn\'t play it enough for it to be worth it)

It would actually like my graphics card and not fry my CPU (which pretty much every game does)

and if I hadn\'t vowed to myself never to use anything other than open source software.

Yeh. But it looks like a cool game. Maybe sometime when I come into a bit of money I might buy it...
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Post by: seperot on December 19, 2005, 03:51:42 am
Actually Xalthar, Drey, and I have started on the Defias Brotherhood server recently... none of us are above lvl 15 yet.... so if you wanna play with some ps people the Defias server is go o/

also if we get another 7 people we could make a guild or something.

Message Darkenstorm to say hi to me :)

Edit: FOR THE HORDE!

were in the horde side >.>
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Post by: Drey on December 19, 2005, 10:33:43 am
also we in europe.
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Post by: Xordan on December 19, 2005, 01:14:43 pm
beh, Earthen Ring is the only good server!   8)
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Post by: Waylander on December 19, 2005, 03:17:52 pm
WoW is the devil and any who play it are mindless zombies...

...

...

Then again who isn\'t a mindless zombie these days...

I\'ll be in it again in a bit.
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Post by: Insanity on December 22, 2005, 01:46:20 pm
WoW is a nice game if you live in a cold country where you just want to sit at your home and rot your brain. I have played it quite a lot and I still am not bored.

Anyways.. For The Horde!

Illysia - 60 Night Elf Hunter
Ragnaros
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Post by: WiseKran on December 23, 2005, 01:47:15 pm
If anyone plays on USA servers,

Choose Spirestone (PvP) I\'ll help You out

60 Gnome Warlock
54 Gnome Rogue
48 Night Elf Druid
37 Human Paladin
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Post by: Trinx on December 23, 2005, 03:58:50 pm
Well in my search for free MMORPG\'s which brought me here I also found Anarchy Online which you can play online for free untill the year 2007.

However it\'s graphics seem a bit dated and is very complex, and sometimes downright confusing.  Like I upgraded my shotgun with a screwdriver (since I was a an engineer) which turned it into a Trader Shotgun that as an engineer I couldn\'t use.

Still quite fun and after a short while of playing it I felt the urge to fork over th $10 a month so I could get the expansion stuff.  However I don\'t own a credit card so after much thought I did wind up getting WoW.

Since I can pick up gamecards for it and not be bothered with sending money or having to get a credit card.  Although I don\'t have a lot to compare it to other than Anarchy Online and Guild wars I find it fun and interesting.

Things I like are the crafting system, and the seemless world.
Basically the crafting system turns killing the same monster over and over more than just grinding.  Plus the crafting systems suit the classes so if you choose wisely you won\'t need to spend anything except on improbing your skill in your crafts.

A good example if your playing a mage, warlock, or priest.  Then tailoring and enchanting are the way to go.  Tailering supports enchanting along with allowing you the best armor for your level and class as well as free enchants.
Enchanting buffs your pathetic cloth armor and allows you  to make powerfull wands for hardly nothing that make all the difference in the world.

However some things I don\'t like is the seemless world, and strict level bias.  Simply there is a 2 level bias any gap bigger than that in PvP prepare to die.  Unless they really really stink then maybe you could take them at 3 levels under them.

Walking sucks and the game has no basis on reality.  You have to be level 40 to ride a horse, or whatever it is you choose to ride.  Most classes get some speed boosting skill though at around level 20.

Non instanced world is as bad as it is good.  For example in Guild Wars when I leave the city to go kill some specific guy for a quest I don\'t have to worry about any interference.  Some things are certain...he will be there, and I will have no help but what I take with me.

In WoW when I get to where the guy is I\'m supposed to kill somebody else just killed him and 5 others are already there waiting for him to respawn.  So it\'s a battle of who can hit him first since that tags them so people can\'t kill steal.

You would think people would go \"Ok lets form a party so we can kill him and all get the quest item.\"  Nope.  Everyone just tries to get the first lick in and if not wait till he respawns.

This is extremely distracting and removes you from the fantasy world quick fast and in a hurry.

Also you never see people standing around outside of town having a conversation etc.  All that stuff happens in town just like in Guild Wars.  Except when maybe you form a party for a moment outside somewhere out of need.  Which is always abused by people.

Example:  Somebody has been trying to die their way through a quest to get 12 of these eggs, but he\'s only managed to get 4 so far.  Then another guy comes along and says \"Hey why don\'t we party that will make it easier.\"
Oh ok great so they form a party and commence collecting eggs.
However as soon as the first guy gets all 12 of his eggs and the other guy has maybe 7 or 8.  Guess what happens?  He says \"Fun partying with you.\" leaves the group and heads off.  Thus he just used you to hurry up and get what he needed but wouldn\'t be bothered to stay and help while you get a few more eggs.

Another problem example of the non-instanced gameplay.  Your creeping through a dungeon and there is a chest.  Woot!  Some plunder!  As you aggro the monster nearest the chest to kill it so you can loot it guess what happens?
Out of nowhere some guy comes running in behind you loots the chest while your fighting the monster and runs off.

Even if you could attack him it wouldn\'t matter.  You\'ve been fighting your way through this dungeon and he just ran in and doesn\'t have a scratch on him because you killed everything already.

Then there is the \"Get out of my area!\" guy.  Who whether you are flagged PvP or not will find a way to ruin your day should you encroach upon his hunting ground.  Usually he\'ll aggro more monsters than either of you can handle and run past you.
As soon as they give up the chase your right there and they all jump on you.  Fun fun.

Nobody helps anybody.  Sure if you pass a spellslinger on the road he might buff you with some spell.  However when your fighting something that about to kill you and 20 yards away there are 5 people who will just stand there and watch you die.

On the upside since other than unique only dropped items and the auction house the economy is intact.  Everything is fixed at a price unlike Guild Wars.  So even if 30000 people buy a silver Axe from the vendor for 7 silver it\'s not suddenly going to jump up to 17 silver.

Totally uninique and boring weapons.  You simply buy the next best weapon on the list as your level allows.  It doesn\'t matter if you prefer maces over hammers.  If the next best thing on the list is a hammer you buy it.

For example your starting Axe might do 1-3dmg.  Go to the vendor and he\'ll offer you an axe that does 2-6dmg.  Later you\'ll find another vendor that has an axe that does guess what?  5-11dmg.

You don\'t say \"Hmm do I want a double axe or a single headed axe?\"  You have little choice or selection in the matter.  Beyond it being a 1h sword, a 2h sword, a dagger, etc.

Above that you just buy the next highest dps weapon on the list you can use.  Whats the difference between a two handed sword and a two handed axe of equal level?  Nothing.

If your a spellcaster a weapon becomes nothing but extra buffs since wands rule over normal weapons.  So your priest carries the +1 stamina hammer simply for the +1 stamina.  Cause when it comes to a fight he\'s gonna pull his wand.

A lvl 60 can carry a shield that has 2000 armor.  A lvl 1 can carry a shield that has 50 armor.  Which makes no logical sense.  Of course without the level limitation everyone would just mail all the high level stuff to their new character.

Sort of like on Guild Wars where people run a lvl 5 or 6 all the way to the last place in the game and buy all the super armor with money from their previous character.

However you meet some people and ignore the rest and it\'s fun.  Neat little things like cooking and fishing, etc.

Still far from a perfect system.
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Post by: WiseKran on December 23, 2005, 04:27:43 pm
Will I be forced to pick apart everything you\'ve said and tell you why your wrong?

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A good example if your playing a mage, warlock, or priest. Then tailoring and enchanting are the way to go. Tailering supports enchanting along with allowing you the best armor for your level and class as well as free enchants.
Enchanting buffs your pathetic cloth armor and allows you to make powerfull wands for hardly nothing that make all the difference in the world.


Trade skills wont produce anything usefull to the creator, as you cant farmt he items needed to make gear that is your level, you need to get it from a higher level player.


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Walking sucks and the game has no basis on reality. You have to be level 40 to ride a horse, or whatever it is you choose to ride. Most classes get some speed boosting skill though at around level 20.


You need to earn your mount, you shouldnt be able to send money over fromy our high level, and just buy it.  it would unbalance the game in PvP as well as PvE

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In WoW when I get to where the guy is I\'m supposed to kill somebody else just killed him and 5 others are already there waiting for him to respawn. So it\'s a battle of who can hit him first since that tags them so people can\'t kill steal.


Never happens, ever.  Outdoor respawn times are 1-2 minutes, hardly ever more. and even on a High population server, you wont see this


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Example: Somebody has been trying to die their way through a quest to get 12 of these eggs, but he\'s only managed to get 4 so far. Then another guy comes along and says \"Hey why don\'t we party that will make it easier.\"
Oh ok great so they form a party and commence collecting eggs.
However as soon as the first guy gets all 12 of his eggs and the other guy has maybe 7 or 8. Guess what happens? He says \"Fun partying with you.\" leaves the group and heads off. Thus he just used you to hurry up and get what he needed but wouldn\'t be bothered to stay and help while you get a few more eggs.


This is in every game, its Human nature

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Another problem example of the non-instanced gameplay. Your creeping through a dungeon and there is a chest. Woot! Some plunder! As you aggro the monster nearest the chest to kill it so you can loot it guess what happens?
Out of nowhere some guy comes running in behind you loots the chest while your fighting the monster and runs off.


You will never find anything of value in a Non-instances chest, maybe a loaf of bread, some copper, and a piece of linen. After level 20 or so all valuable items will dorp in instances, besides random world drops that come off random mobs.

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Totally uninique and boring weapons. You simply buy the next best weapon on the list as your level allows. It doesn\'t matter if you prefer maces over hammers. If the next best thing on the list is a hammer you buy it.


Your ignorance is scathing.    Talent trees allow different procs and crit rates for different weapon types, ex hammer, mace, sword, dagger.   Also hammers tend to lean towards different stats than other weapons.    And the speed of the weapon has alot to do with your instant attack skills damage and Damage over time.. therefore it is Crucial to make sure what type of weapon your using.

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Above that you just buy the next highest dps weapon on the list you can use. Whats the difference between a two handed sword and a two handed axe of equal level? Nothing.


Not true. different proc\'s on Blue+ weapons,  Speed difference as I mentioned before, Talents and other things that give bonusses the different types of weapons, and Base damage/speed, not dps.



There, I believe I have corrected you properly

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Post by: Xordan on December 23, 2005, 07:45:41 pm
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Originally posted by Trinx
Another problem example of the non-instanced gameplay.  Your creeping through a dungeon and there is a chest.  Woot!  Some plunder!  As you aggro the monster nearest the chest to kill it so you can loot it guess what happens?
Out of nowhere some guy comes running in behind you loots the chest while your fighting the monster and runs off.


Doesn\'t happen because all dungeons in WoW are instanced... obviously you didn\'t play much.

Most of the other things you said aren\'t correct from my experience as well.
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Post by: Insanity on December 24, 2005, 11:54:38 am
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A good example if your playing a mage, warlock, or priest. Then tailoring and enchanting are the way to go. Tailering supports enchanting along with allowing you the best armor for your level and class as well as free enchants.
Enchanting buffs your pathetic cloth armor and allows you to make powerfull wands for hardly nothing that make all the difference in the world.


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Trade skills wont produce anything usefull to the creator, as you cant farmt he items needed to make gear that is your level, you need to get it from a higher level player..


I have always been able to farm the mats and make the highest level stuff I can put on... Except at level 60.
You can also make some money with your skill and buy the   mats from Auction House. No big deal.

But of course there are all kinds of level caps and quests for being able to get better skill... And some trades make you to specify what kind of things you can make in the ends (do you make dragonscale, tribal or elemental armor for example)

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In WoW when I get to where the guy is I\'m supposed to kill somebody else just killed him and 5 others are already there waiting for him to respawn. So it\'s a battle of who can hit him first since that tags them so people can\'t kill steal.


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Never happens, ever.  Outdoor respawn times are 1-2 minutes, hardly ever more. and even on a High population server, you wont see this.


This happens quite a lot if you have bad luck. Actually I am  usually the guy without moral who steals the named mobs from the poor guys who have ventured all the way to em and are fighting their guards... And the respawn times on some mobs are actually longer than normal. There is no help in crying a river... You just have to wait.

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Another problem example of the non-instanced gameplay. Your creeping through a dungeon and there is a chest. Woot! Some plunder! As you aggro the monster nearest the chest to kill it so you can loot it guess what happens?
Out of nowhere some guy comes running in behind you loots the chest while your fighting the monster and runs off.


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You will never find anything of value in a Non-instances chest, maybe a loaf of bread, some copper, and a piece of linen. After level 20 or so all valuable items will dorp in instances, besides random world drops that come off random mobs..


I have found many blues from non-instance chests. And yes.. as a rogue I can creep through an instance and with some luck I can sap/kill guards that are there. I can also bring in my rogue/druid friends to help me in that and in killing the bosses too. Small exploiting is just so fun ;)

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Above that you just buy the next highest dps weapon on the list you can use. Whats the difference between a two handed sword and a two handed axe of equal level? Nothing.


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Not true. different proc\'s on Blue+ weapons,  Speed difference as I mentioned before, Talents and other things that give bonusses the different types of weapons, and Base damage/speed, not dps..


Gotta agree with Wise. Dps isn\'t all that there is. For druids example 100 armor you can get from a staff is a huge bonus in tah bear form. And for my hunter... the slow  weapons just rock. I can inflict 2k crits with the slow weapons instead of 1.2k crits. Just gotta love those ;)

[Egoboost] My best crit in non-set-up circumstances is over 4k (Dont remember if it was almost 5k). Won\'t explain how I did it but I had a blue bow and blue gear on me when I did that. Go find out -Tip- Sunken Temple bossfight [/Egoboost]