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Support => Technical Help: IN GAME bugs (after loading world) => Topic started by: Robin1991 on November 15, 2005, 06:38:20 pm
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I thought I should challenge someone cause I can\'t kill creatures. I done that and the other person didn\'t wanted. So I tried to challenged someone else instead and then a text appears \"you should\'t invite spam other players\" and then the time I have to wait before I challenge someone or something like that. And then I challenge someone else same message come up. Another one same message. Then I thought I wait that time. Challenge someone and what happens??? I get sent to the Death realm. When I come out I wanna challenge someone again. She declines. I thought I\'ve waited for about 10 minutes. Appeariently I haden\'t. What happend now??? I got kicked. I don\'t see the wrong with challenging peoples. And how long are you kicked? Permanent or temporary?
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One single word: realism.
You ran into a system that was made exactly for people like you.
Challenging is not to be done
- without a valid RolePlay reason
- without having previously talked to your would-be opponent
I think this closes your report of being sent to the DR without reason, as the reason is attempted challenge-spamming. :tdown:
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If you mean my other thread it wasn\'t because of challenging.
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Use your words...
I\'m quite surprised someone managed to get up to the 4th penalty... Most people seemed to get the message after 3.
The punishment level is saved to your account, but it can expire with game-play. The kick is a one time thing; you can log back on immediately after. I just don\'t feel safe giving the server the power to ban automatically. :/
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Why do you duel? You can mine Diamond Crystals for Trias...
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I\'m new in planeshift, but if you should mine you have to get a training for that and to get a training you nedd to have experience points and to get experience points you have to kill monsters. You can\'t kill the monster cause the NPC server is down. So you can\'t mine.
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You can also get experience and money from the quests I\'ve been running. So, if you want exp to mine, you can join in one of those. They\'re also a nice substitute for random aggression...
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Duelling isn\'t because of aggression, but because of people are bored...
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People be bored so they wanna do something and the easiest should be to duel. You get bored, you wanna do something, you choose duelling, noone wanna duel, so you keep asking and you get kicked. In the manual it stands that I should say, to the NPC:s, \"Give me a quest\" and the answer from NPC:s \"Give you...? Get a job, freeloader.\" Hard to get a quest.
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then you\'re asking the wrong npcs, but that is another thread.
but just because you\'re bored and it is easy to do doesn\'t mean you should do it.
restraint in the key here.
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I have nothing against dueling, if both want to. Just ask to duel with words, and not the /challenge command. Don\'t pester people with invite spam.
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If you want realism then look in the paper. People get murderd and beaten up everywhere. Do you really think the murders go to their targets and ask \"I\'m sorry but I think I have to kill you. Is that OK for you?\" or \"I think I have to beat you up. You don\'t mind that, do you?\". And you can even choose to be a rogue and a streetfighter. Atleast they should be able to attack people without any reason. Shouldn\'t they?
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This argument has been posted way too often, and refuted just as many times. And it doesn\'t even cover your \"realism\" of going around and killing people for fun / because you are bored. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Robin1991
Do you really think the murders go to their targets and ask \"I\'m sorry but I think I have to kill you. Is that OK for you?\" or \"I think I have to beat you up. You don\'t mind that, do you?\". And you can even choose to be a rogue and a streetfighter. Atleast they should be able to attack people without any reason. Shouldn\'t they?
Actually rogues and streetfighters don\'t randomly beat up anyone they like. They too need to have valid RP reasons, but whether simply in-character madness or vengeance or fun, I will come in-game expecting you to have a well-made and carefully thought-out roleplaying character. And if you prove to others that you can roleplay and roleplay well, I have no doubts that after you discuss possible \"murder\" scenarios OOC with other people that will be involved, you can play it out wonderfully.
You are not the only person who wants to enjoy the game, remember that.
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And just to make it clear, as was said - OOC, meaning out of character. So it\'s not like your character approaches someone and says \"I\'m sorry but I think I have to kill you. Is that OK for you?\". It\'s you (as a player) that is supposed to approach someone and discuss it (best in /tell ). Just after that your character may carry on its thing.
Keep in mind that asking someone for a duel in the middle of a day on one of the main streets is absurd and shouldn\'t really happen. Unless your character is someone of a sub-normal intelligence. Or to put it in a more descriptive word, an idiot.
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Can\'t there held a dueling contest, for the ones among us who want to duel...
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There have been several dueling contests in the past. If you want to organize another, by all means do so ;)
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Uhh...
If he asked one person over and over, that\'s invite spamming. If he asked different people each time, that\'s not.
I know I\'m new to this game, but this is just common sense for any game. I hope the server isn\'t kicking people for asking different people to duel.
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First I challenged one person he denied, then I asked another person and it come up a text \"you must wait -a time- before dueling\" I got a little bit frustrated and pressed the challengenge button several times and then I got sent to The Death Realm. When I got out I thought now I shouldn\'t do the same misstake. So I challenged another person he denied, later when I thought ten minutes had gone I challenged another player. Now I got kicked.
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Originally posted by shmoo
If he asked one person over and over, that\'s invite spamming. If he asked different people each time, that\'s not.
Doesn\'t matter what one calls it. Running around challenging random people is bad, no matter how called.
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Originally posted by Draklar
Doesn\'t matter what one calls it. Running around challenging random people is bad, no matter how called.
Why? Why is it bad?
If it\'s for some reason a bad thing to challenge people to fight, then I guess the PvP function ought to just be taken out of the game, eh?
Players (of ANY game) shouldn\'t be punished for using a feature that\'s built into a game, such as PvP. If you\'re going to take such a \"roleplayers vs. PvPers\" mentality to this game, then simply remove the PvP and be done with it.
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Tell you what... I\'ve got a better idea...
Simply add a function where each player can select to be in PvP mode or non-PvP mode. This way, those who WANT to duel can do so with others who want to duel - and - those who do NOT wish to duel will never be bothered by those who do want to (the idea is that no one would be able to send a duel invite to anyone who is in non-PvP mode).
This way, everyone is happy and no one gets punished - or annoyed.
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Originally posted by shmoo
Why? Why is it bad?
Do you often see people running around your city attacking random people?
Originally posted by shmoo
If it\'s for some reason a bad thing to challenge people to fight, then I guess the PvP function ought to just be taken out of the game, eh?
It\'s here for role-playing reason. Whereas role-playing wasn\'t present in the discussed situation.
Originally posted by shmoo
Players (of ANY game) shouldn\'t be punished for using a feature that\'s built into a game, such as PvP. If you\'re going to take such a \"roleplayers vs. PvPers\" mentality to this game, then simply remove the PvP and be done with it.
The function isn\'t here for PvPers, but for role-players. That\'s why such system is added and that\'s why you have the PvPer complaining here.
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Originally posted by shmoo
Tell you what... I\'ve got a better idea...
Simply add a function where each player can select to be in PvP mode or non-PvP mode. This way, those who WANT to duel can do so with others who want to duel - and - those who do NOT wish to duel will never be bothered by those who do want to (the idea is that no one would be able to send a duel invite to anyone who is in non-PvP mode).
This way, everyone is happy and no one gets punished - or annoyed.
Bad idea. If role-player wants to fight against other players, but wants only from role-playing reasons and not just randomly, then what should he do? Hmm?
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If PvP is in this game solely for the purpose of roleplaying, then that is fine.
But a computer (ie; the server, counting the number of times someone sends a duel invite each hour) cannot effectively enforce such a policy... since the computer cannot determine the context of the duel invites.
Look back at the edit I made to my last post and read my alternative idea. It makes much better sense in the case of roleplaying than the current \"punishment\" system. During the course of your roleplaying, if you come to a point where two characters should duel (to win the hand of a fair maiden or whatever), you simply both click a button and you\'re in PvP mode.
At the very, very least, if a PvP-er invites too often, just have the computer/server TURN OFF his ability to send invites for awhile... don\'t kick the poor noob from the server. Punishing players for using allowable game functions (even if it\'s not quite as intended) is just bad game design and it alienates those players. We can come up with better ways to deal with this :)
Btw, yes, random, senseless killings happen in real life all the time. Just watch the news if you don\'t believe me :)
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Bad idea. If role-player wants to fight against other players, but wants only from role-playing reasons and not just randomly, then what should he do? Hmm?
How can you judge it as a bad idea just yet? It hasn\'t been tried. It\'s an idea that took me about 10 seconds to think up. If it\'s got flaws, by all means, expand upon it; don\'t just shoot it down without thinking about it.
Anyway, to answer your question... the player could easily click into and out of PvP mode at will (except during a duel). So... he/she could easily switch to PvP mode when he is ready to duel, then switch out of it again so he won\'t get annoyed by others\' duel invites (ie; being in PvP mode doesn\'t mean you can just get attacked... it just means you can invite and accept invites).
In other words, this PvP mode idea is really just a sort of \"duel invite\" spam filter. Maybe \"PvP mode\" should really be called \"I\'m not accepting PvP invites right now\".
Anyway, it\'s just a brainstormed idea. It needs to be \"finessed\" for sure.
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Originally posted by shmoo
Look back at the edit I made to my last post and read my alternative idea. It makes much better sense in the case of roleplaying than the current \"punishment\" system. During the course of your roleplaying, if you come to a point where two characters should duel (to win the hand of a fair maiden or whatever), you simply both click a button and you\'re in PvP mode.
People would still challenge randomly. That\'s bad role-play and shouldn\'t happen. It doesn\'t solve much.
Originally posted by shmoo
Btw, yes, random, senseless killings happen in real life all the time. Just watch the news if you don\'t believe me :)
I don\'t know where you get this from. You actually believe in Hydlaa-sized city someone murders other people without any reason all the time? The population would be like ten times smaller if that was the case. We can\'t just leave the Death Realm.
And yeah, believing everything that is said on TV... Sorry, but I\'ll pass. I can\'t possibly figure out how in most cases a reporter can be absolutely sure someone murdered other person without a reason and not as an act of revange or something :P
When walking through plaza I was challenged many times. But you know, I was never attacked with a knife or anything in real life.
But yeah, TV :P
Originally posted by shmoo
If it\'s got flaws, by all means, expand upon it; don\'t just shoot it down without thinking about it.
I think that would be why I posted this:If role-player wants to fight against other players, but wants only from role-playing reasons and not just randomly, then what should he do? Hmm?
Originally posted by shmoo
Anyway, to answer your question... the player could easily click into and out of PvP mode at will (except during a duel). So... he/she could easily switch to PvP mode when he is ready to duel, then switch out of it again so he won\'t get annoyed by others\' duel invites (ie; being in PvP mode doesn\'t mean you can ust get attacked... it just means you can invite and accept invites).
How will he know someone wants to challange him because of role-playing reasons? Apparently it would be done same way as it has to be done now. Your idea only removes the role-play enforcement and eliminates punishment for ooc behaviour. Adds a must for role-players to switch the options all the time, while the PvPers strive. Can\'t see how it can be good.
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Ok, first of all, here\'s the initial thread on the topic: click here (http://planeshift.oodlz.com/wbboard/thread.php?threadid=19989&boardid=13)
Secondly, I wrote the thing. Those who are experiencing the kills and the kicks always leave out all the important details to make them sound innocent... Like the 3 or 4 denys...
Here\'s how things go:
- Get denied for any invite using the spam-blocker. (duel, group, and guild invites)
- Locked out for one minute.
- After lockout, if you get denied again, you\'re locked out for 5 min.
- After lockout, if you get denied again, you\'re locked out for 10 min.
- If you try to invite during this lockout, you\'ll receive a penalty of advisor (and duel if duel spam) points and death.
- After lockout, if you get denied yet another time (we\'re up to 4 times here), you\'re locked out for 30 min. Any attempts to invite within this time result in a kick.
It takes 4 denies, and a 5th invite attempt, after ignoring 16 minutes of penalties to get kicked!
The penalty level is stored by account, and can expire with time.
At any point in time you may accept an invite, regardless of lockouts.
Simply put, I don\'t care if you\'re violent or not. Just don\'t use the prompting system to annoy people.
Use your words, not the /challenge command!
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What about some PVP zone ?
PVP on famous zone that we could make easy money for example, a zone that worker need protections from good guilds ;)
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Ok with the new pvp rules Iv already gotten over -90 points in duel SO for now on Im ignoring the points and going for the WIN, And the DR wont stop me it really isnt any penity any ways I say ask whom who want ..
Oh if some one doesnt want to duel they can decline and not cry about spam invites
also any one who want to duel let lentomi know:) this is the last communication in game or out that will be done for Dueling..
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Except that after a certain amount of penalties, you\'re eligible for a kick off the server, right?
Definitely fight whomever you want, but make sure you have an in-character reason for it. Otherwise, buh-bye :)
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Originally posted by Karyuu
Except that after a certain amount of penalties, you\'re eligible for a kick off the server, right?
Definitely fight whomever you want, but make sure you have an in-character reason for it. Otherwise, buh-bye :)
True I get kicked But back on in under 3 minutes No problem :)
Oh and I have only been kicked one time the Only way Ill stop is to remove duel option compleatly...also I just Ask them to duel I need NO other reason than that and to think that isnt realistic think again , you may not like it ...to bad thats the way Im doing it...:)
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Originally posted by Draklar
Originally posted by shmoo
Look back at the edit I made to my last post and read my alternative idea. It makes much better sense in the case of roleplaying than the current \"punishment\" system. During the course of your roleplaying, if you come to a point where two characters should duel (to win the hand of a fair maiden or whatever), you simply both click a button and you\'re in PvP mode.
People would still challenge randomly. That\'s bad role-play and shouldn\'t happen. It doesn\'t solve much.
Originally posted by shmoo
Btw, yes, random, senseless killings happen in real life all the time. Just watch the news if you don\'t believe me :)
I don\'t know where you get this from. You actually believe in Hydlaa-sized city someone murders other people without any reason all the time? The population would be like ten times smaller if that was the case. We can\'t just leave the Death Realm.
And yeah, believing everything that is said on TV... Sorry, but I\'ll pass. I can\'t possibly figure out how in most cases a reporter can be absolutely sure someone murdered other person without a reason and not as an act of revange or something :P
When walking through plaza I was challenged many times. But you know, I was never attacked with a knife or anything in real life.
But yeah, TV :P
Originally posted by shmoo
If it\'s got flaws, by all means, expand upon it; don\'t just shoot it down without thinking about it.
I think that would be why I posted this:If role-player wants to fight against other players, but wants only from role-playing reasons and not just randomly, then what should he do? Hmm?
Originally posted by shmoo
Anyway, to answer your question... the player could easily click into and out of PvP mode at will (except during a duel). So... he/she could easily switch to PvP mode when he is ready to duel, then switch out of it again so he won\'t get annoyed by others\' duel invites (ie; being in PvP mode doesn\'t mean you can ust get attacked... it just means you can invite and accept invites).
How will he know someone wants to challange him because of role-playing reasons? Apparently it would be done same way as it has to be done now. Your idea only removes the role-play enforcement and eliminates punishment for ooc behaviour. Adds a must for role-players to switch the options all the time, while the PvPers strive. Can\'t see how it can be good.
So you want people to role play before Pvp-ing ...who are you to decide how I should Role play. Ill decide that Not no computer not no gm not no other player.....
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Make the Arena an open pvp center , where you just run up and start to attack It should be accepted if you enter the arena But all duels should only be one on one and no out side aid can be renderd till some one wins/loses then healing and other aid ...
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:sigh:
The prompt window is only a small portion of the annoyance of the spam. The primary problem is the spammer. People doing this junk disrupt the game, and are general nuisances that we simply should not tolerate.
I couldn\'t care less if you\'re fighting willing people; it\'s the immature garbage of challenging ever person you see, and acting like an ass. There are too many little children playing this game... I\'ve met 2 year olds more mature and less pathetic... Why would you keep duel spamming if you aren\'t even winning?... I may have decided against giving the server the ability to ban, but I\'m fully capable. If morons like this ever pose a constant problem feel free to tell a mod/GM/dev/whathaveyou and we\'ll ban them.
Edited to add:
And now you\'ve triple posted while I typed this message...
Edited to state the obvious using sarcasm:
No... you\'re not a spammer...
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Originally posted by DaveG
:sigh:
The prompt window is only a small portion of the annoyance of the spam. The primary problem is the spammer. People doing this junk disrupt the game, and are general nuisances that we simply should not tolerate.
I couldn\'t care less if you\'re fighting willing people; it\'s the immature garbage of challenging ever person you see, and acting like an ass. There are too many little children playing this game... I\'ve met 2 year olds more mature and less pathetic... Why would you keep duel spamming if you aren\'t even winning?... I may have decided against giving the server the ability to ban, but I\'m fully capable. If morons like this ever pose a constant problem feel free to tell a mod/GM/dev/whathaveyou and we\'ll ban them.
(((Cry me a river why dont Ya,
Oh it disrupts the game Lets see. I get bored of killing mobs I see you run by I think HAY and i shout hey...hey ...hey you keep runningso I say F-it I just hit challenge if this is a problem for TOO BADuntill they remove the pvp option Im going to use .
And you dont want Willing people to have fun OK
(FUN NAZI) and maybe Ill and others like me will get banned because of CRY babies like you whine about a small little thing then there will be just the CRYBABIES in thier own play pen...How boring..)))
Edited to add:
And now you\'ve triple posted while I typed this message...
(((I have responded by 2 quote\'s and one personal post Jeez you cant tell that , and you type slower than me that is F-ed-up)))
Edited to state the obvious using sarcasm:
No... you\'re not a spammer...
(((No im not a spamer)))
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Originally posted by bushidobull
Cry me a river why dont Ya,
Oh it disrupts the game Lets see. I get bored of killing mobs I see you run by I think HAY and i shout hey...hey ...hey you keep runningso I say F-it I just hit challenge if this is a problem for TOO BADuntill they remove the pvp option Im going to use .
And you dont want Willing people to have fun OK
(FUN NAZI) and maybe Ill and others like me will get banned because of CRY babies like you whine about a small little thing then there will be just the CRYBABIES in thier own play pen...How boring..
Wow, way to go talking like this to a developer :) I don\'t expect you to stick around for a very long time - you\'ll certainly find many people making your stay here very difficult, myself included. If your asinine behavior doesn\'t cease, that is. The game has rules you\'re supposed to obey, so please obey them or find another game.
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Originally posted by bushidobull
Cry me a river why dont Ya,
Oh it disrupts the game Lets see. I get bored of killing mobs I see you run by I think HAY and i shout hey...hey ...hey you keep runningso I say F-it I just hit challenge if this is a problem for TOO BADuntill they remove the pvp option Im going to use .
And you dont want Willing people to have fun OK
(FUN NAZI) and maybe Ill and others like me will get banned because of CRY babies like you whine about a small little thing then there will be just the CRYBABIES in thier own play pen...How boring..
Yeah, this really prove your point...
Originally posted by bushidobull
I have responded by 2 quote\'s and one personal post Jeez you cant tell that , and you type slower than me that is F-ed-up
I hit reply, and was actually fixing crap in this game while I was typing my reply... You posted 2 replys to yourself in 5 min. I think it\'s safe to say I can type faster than you; you can\'t even type. You use caps in the middle of sentences, you\'re missing spaces, and all-in-all you sound like an immature 12 year old, which you probably are. (there\'s plenty of mature 12 year olds out there; you\'re not one of them)
Originally posted by bushidobull
Originally posted by DaveG
No... you\'re not a spammer...
No im not a spamer
You post multiple unwanted messages... So, pretty much by definition, yes you are.
Simply put, I shouldn\'t be responding to this junk. I have nothing I need to defend. I just want you to realize how pathetic this all is. You\'re actually complaining that you should be allowed to annoy people in a pre-alpha game... As far as I\'m concerned, if you aren\'t finding bugs you shouldn\'t even be playing... and, you aren\'t even playing it for that matter...
Think about what you\'re ranting about. Please, seriously... re-evaluate what you\'re doing here. No malice intended; just try and find a reason to continue playing this game if you\'re bored with it.
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Uhmm, i have a good idea (miracle!).
Why Devs don\'t give us the possibility to kill a challenge spammer for some time?
I mean...with a sys message we got a \'Xxx is trying to kill all the people around! Please stop him/her\' and after that Xxx will be killable for 15 mins (or, better, for 5-10 times) without challenge.
So people with RP reason to keep the streets safe can have some free amusement and the spammer will think a lot before doing the same thing again :)
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Originally posted by Esserfin
Uhmm, i have a good idea (miracle!).
Why Devs don\'t give us the possibility to kill a challenge spammer for some time?
I mean...with a sys message we got a \'Xxx is trying to kill all the people around! Please stop him/her\' and after that Xxx will be killable for 15 mins (or, better, for 5-10 times) without challenge.
So people with RP reason to keep the streets safe can have some free amusement and the spammer will think a lot before doing the same thing again :)
Sounds good to me or make a place for pvp-ers to go Like make one or more of the pens in the Arena Pvp Place Hmmmm nope that is to easy
Also What are the point good for Other thatn bragin Im not a bragartso they ar not good for me Now say that with the point I could purchase something with them Hey good ideas a flowing here ought to mak me a DEV whatcha think...:) at least a Dev of Creative concepts...
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Personally, my ideal system would have open PvP with (very) powerful guards in every town. (having some player guards in addition to NPC would be a nice touch ;) ) Only legally proclaimed duels would be allowed by them. (and, only away from crowds) PvP kills out of towns would be allowed, but if enough people complain about you, a price can be put on your head. The risk of having every NPC and player out to kill your ass would be a satisfactory deterrent to any non-justified violence. :D
But, this all needs non-braindead NPC AI... and allot of other things... it\'s a looooooong way off.
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Originally posted by DaveG
Originally posted by bushidobull
Cry me a river why dont Ya,
Oh it disrupts the game Lets see. I get bored of killing mobs I see you run by I think HAY and i shout hey...hey ...hey you keep runningso I say F-it I just hit challenge if this is a problem for TOO BADuntill they remove the pvp option Im going to use .
And you dont want Willing people to have fun OK
(FUN NAZI) and maybe Ill and others like me will get banned because of CRY babies like you whine about a small little thing then there will be just the CRYBABIES in thier own play pen...How boring..
Yeah, this really prove your point...
Originally posted by bushidobull
I have responded by 2 quote\'s and one personal post Jeez you cant tell that , and you type slower than me that is F-ed-up
I hit reply, and was actually fixing crap in this game while I was typing my reply... You posted 2 replys to yourself in 5 min. I think it\'s safe to say I can type faster than you; you can\'t even type. You use caps in the middle of sentences, you\'re missing spaces, and all-in-all you sound like an immature 12 year old, which you probably are. (there\'s plenty of mature 12 year olds out there; you\'re not one of them)
Originally posted by bushidobull
Originally posted by DaveG
No... you\'re not a spammer...
No im not a spamer
You post multiple unwanted messages... So, pretty much by definition, yes you are.
Simply put, I shouldn\'t be responding to this junk. I have nothing I need to defend. I just want you to realize how pathetic this all is. You\'re actually complaining that you should be allowed to annoy people in a pre-alpha game... As far as I\'m concerned, if you aren\'t finding bugs you shouldn\'t even be playing... and, you aren\'t even playing it for that matter...
Think about what you\'re ranting about. Please, seriously... re-evaluate what you\'re doing here. No malice intended; just try and find a reason to continue playing this game if you\'re bored with it.
I do iv been with the game for about 10 months ...I thinkthe game is good for what it is ...ATM but to penilize players for Challenging people Is really over the top there could be other ways to stop Invite spamming AS YOU call it for instance disable the players Challenge button for 5 mins or somthing listen this is what happens for me ...
I log on find out that the Mob server is down again whats left explore iv benn there done that, mine get the skill up it is up , do quests i have ... at least the working ones, ok duel hey ok that sounds like fun , So im off to find a willing participant since i dont challenge Guilded peeps i go by them Unless they challange me Ill duel any one (win,lose,or draw not the point ) it is the fight I enjoy the fight now i see some one not guilded I get the target hit challenge they decline ok GL have fun .now if i continued to challeng this peep NOW THAT WOULD BE SPAMMING .so on i move 2 minutes i see some one else I hit Chalenge boom im hit with the penilized for INVIT SPAMMING BAH wtf and all that noise so i run and shout DO you want to duel sure they say I say challenge me im penilized the other says WHAT!!! that is BS I say I know but what are we going to do They say how many points have you lose I say 99 so far ,But im ignoring the points and going for the win they say OH ok good idea I say lets beginwhap I win AGAIN and off to find my next victom..this is how I roleplay it but it seems i gt penilized for it Not right in my book ....so to avoid this make a place where it is for pvp and dueling all the time way to easy ..
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Originally posted by Karyuu
Originally posted by bushidobull
Cry me a river why dont Ya,
Oh it disrupts the game Lets see. I get bored of killing mobs I see you run by I think HAY and i shout hey...hey ...hey you keep runningso I say F-it I just hit challenge if this is a problem for TOO BADuntill they remove the pvp option Im going to use .
And you dont want Willing people to have fun OK
(FUN NAZI) and maybe Ill and others like me will get banned because of CRY babies like you whine about a small little thing then there will be just the CRYBABIES in thier own play pen...How boring..
Wow, way to go talking like this to a developer :) I don\'t expect you to stick around for a very long time - you\'ll certainly find many people making your stay here very difficult, myself included. If your asinine behavior doesn\'t cease, that is. The game has rules you\'re supposed to obey, so please obey them or find another game.
FYI i talk like this to every body I hold back for no one..
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Originally posted by bushidobull
I do iv been with the game for about 10 months ...I thinkthe game is good for what it is ...ATM but to penilize players for Challenging people Is really over the top there could be other ways to stop Invite spamming AS YOU call it for instance disable the players Challenge button for 5 mins or somthing listen this is what happens for me ...
I log on find out that the Mob server is down again whats left explore iv benn there done that, mine get the skill up it is up , do quests i have ... at least the working ones, ok duel hey ok that sounds like fun , So im off to find a willing participant since i dont challenge Guilded peeps i go by them Unless they challange me Ill duel any one (win,lose,or draw not the point ) it is the fight I enjoy the fight now i see some one not guilded I get the target hit challenge they decline ok GL have fun .now if i continued to challeng this peep NOW THAT WOULD BE SPAMMING .so on i move 2 minutes i see some one else I hit Chalenge boom im hit with the penilized for INVIT SPAMMING BAH wtf and all that noise so i run and shout DO you want to duel sure they say I say challenge me im penilized the other says WHAT!!! that is BS I say I know but what are we going to do They say how many points have you lose I say 99 so far ,But im ignoring the points and going for the win they say OH ok good idea I say lets beginwhap I win AGAIN and off to find my next victom..this is how I roleplay it but it seems i gt penilized for it Not right in my book ....so to avoid this make a place where it is for pvp and dueling all the time way to easy ..
Ok... having trouble deciphering this... About all I can understand in this mess of \"English\", is the need to restate this line for the billionth time:
Use your words, not the /challenge command!
Ask if anyone wants to duel. Don\'t just spam the prompt. Hell, standing in an area and saying \"sum1 fite ME!\" would be better, though still massively annoying...
Edited to add:
Originally posted by bushidobull
FYI i talk like this to every body I hold back for no one..
You\'re going to have to learn how to talk and type at some point... You\'re also going to have to learn how to use the edit button...
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Originally posted by DaveG
Personally, my ideal system would have open PvP with (very) powerful guards in every town. (having some player guards in addition to NPC would be a nice touch ;) ) Only legally proclaimed duels would be allowed by them. (and, only away from crowds) PvP kills out of towns would be allowed, but if enough people complain about you, a price can be put on your head. The risk of having every NPC and player out to kill your ass would be a satisfactory deterrent to any non-justified violence. :D
But, this all needs non-braindead NPC AI... and allot of other things... it\'s a looooooong way off.
Heyyyyy I like it why not do it then for those who dont want it either have an all PVP server wher those who want it can and transfer to ...or have a way for those who want to just level turn it off and are imunes fom the challenge all together untill they decide to turn it on.. then every one is happy and a devs life is easyer..
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Originally posted by DaveG
Originally posted by bushidobull
I do iv been with the game for about 10 months ...I thinkthe game is good for what it is ...ATM but to penilize players for Challenging people Is really over the top there could be other ways to stop Invite spamming AS YOU call it for instance disable the players Challenge button for 5 mins or somthing listen this is what happens for me ...
I log on find out that the Mob server is down again whats left explore iv benn there done that, mine get the skill up it is up , do quests i have ... at least the working ones, ok duel hey ok that sounds like fun , So im off to find a willing participant since i dont challenge Guilded peeps i go by them Unless they challange me Ill duel any one (win,lose,or draw not the point ) it is the fight I enjoy the fight now i see some one not guilded I get the target hit challenge they decline ok GL have fun .now if i continued to challeng this peep NOW THAT WOULD BE SPAMMING .so on i move 2 minutes i see some one else I hit Chalenge boom im hit with the penilized for INVIT SPAMMING BAH wtf and all that noise so i run and shout DO you want to duel sure they say I say challenge me im penilized the other says WHAT!!! that is BS I say I know but what are we going to do They say how many points have you lose I say 99 so far ,But im ignoring the points and going for the win they say OH ok good idea I say lets beginwhap I win AGAIN and off to find my next victom..this is how I roleplay it but it seems i gt penilized for it Not right in my book ....so to avoid this make a place where it is for pvp and dueling all the time way to easy ..
Ok... having trouble deciphering this... About all I can understand in this mess of \"English\", is the need to restate this line for the billionth time:
Use your words, not the /challenge command!
Ask if anyone wants to duel. Don\'t just spam the prompt. Hell, standing in an area and saying \"sum1 fite ME!\" would be better, though still massively annoying...
Edited to add:
Originally posted by bushidobull
FYI i talk like this to every body I hold back for no one..
You\'re going to have to learn how to talk and type at some point... You\'re also going to have to learn how to use the edit button...
Sorry I know i dont type verry well, I have had 2 typing classes and both of the instructors said I always will have trouble typing because of my huge hands .witch brings me to this is why I just hit the challeng button by the time i try to type some thing to some one they have left.. so since i play a thugish style of charactor she acts like (roleplayng ) cant get any better that that..
I have been useing the edit button :( Bah thought i was doing better...
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There will only be one game world, even if we need additionaly servers in the future.
Use the edit button and amend your last post, instead of double posting...
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Originally posted by DaveG
There will only be one game world, even if we need additionaly servers in the future.
Use the edit button and amend your last post, instead of double posting...
Errrr where did i double post I just keep hitting (Quote)to respond.. :/
and I ment the same worled but the pvp option is always turned on.
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You could reply to multiple people in a single post - that would be a lot better. And it would be pointless to have PvP characters and RP characters, as other games tend to have them, since PlaneShift aims for roleplay first and having a PvP option will invite quite undesirable people.
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Bushidobull,
I have a few things to say to you
1. making yourself look like an ass is not a good way to get you opinions heard.
2. The punnishment system has been put in place for many diferent and valid reasons, an overwhelming majority of the players are content with the system (at least as a temporary solution) , whereas there are only a handfull of players that have a problem with it (and those players are generally considered a nuicance to the plansehift society
3. The PvP system WILL be reworked over and over again. Remember, this is a TECH DEMO and you are a BETA TESTER. In the future, there will most likely be a new chalenge system, PvP areas, murders will be possible, etc. This has been discussed time and time again.
4. If you are still determined to walk around dueling everybody in sight then do this: set up some of your shortcut buttons to say things like \"would you like to duel?\"come fight me you coward!\" \"would anybody like to duel?\" /me taunts you etc etc. There a infinite possibilities for those shortcut buttons, and by using them you will avoid the punishment, kicks and bans.
5. If you\'re still not happy, then dont play. I would personally suggest that you play Dark Ages of Camelot, which is widely considered to have some of the best PvP and RvR aspects. Or you could just play WoW since that seems to be the trendy thing right now.
and last but not least, please edit your posts. in this thread you have a triple-post and two double-posts.
Its really pretty simple: If you were the last person to post in the thread then click the [EDIT] button instead of the [REPLY] or buttons.
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BaurakSered: YES. If there were more people that got the point, well... this thread wouldn\'t exist.
/me points at BaurakSered\'s post, and asks that this discussion end on that rather succinct note