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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: GullyFoyle on November 30, 2005, 06:03:43 pm

Title: What Do You Expect from a MMORPG?
Post by: GullyFoyle on November 30, 2005, 06:03:43 pm
I have to ask. Some people expect combat, lots of looting, PvP, guild warring, and crafting. What are your expectations, especially regarding Planeshift?

The biggest part of the above for me would be crafting. If there\'s no crafting, there\'s nothing much worth doing to stimulate a healthy player economy(except for loot selling, but endless farming for pure loot gets old fast).

A good variety of jobs/professions would foster RP between the various crafters/gatherers who depend on each other to create a final usable product.

-GullyFoyle
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Post by: zanzibar on November 30, 2005, 07:08:47 pm
Fun.  Period.


How to achieve that though: monster slaying, chatting, player economy, crafting, exploration, political intrigue, questions, puzzle solving, mystery solving, over-arching plots, nemeses, rivalries, and guild wars.

Of course, someone is going to come along and say \"NONE OF THAT IS RP RELATED, YOU NOOB.\"
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Post by: Thoronador on November 30, 2005, 07:09:19 pm
You are right, crafting is one of the things that should come next.
At the moment there is too much combat and PvP, which (IMHO) is not so good for the atmosphere of a MMORPG. Crafting will make the people more independent from just killing and looting monsters and it will add a good piece of RP-possibilities to the game. :)
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Post by: Induane on November 30, 2005, 07:27:52 pm
Definately agreed - /me waits imatiently for crafting.

Things that I expect from Planeshift:

1. Crafting
2. Visible armor
3. Large areas to explore and adventure
4. Large variety of monsters to interact with and/or kill
5. Decent contros
6. Extra Animations for Emotes and RP related actions
7. Ability to sit in chairs
8. Updating HP bar
9. Added variety of available skills
10. Guild structure not so rigid - i.e. only one person can be named the highest rank in a guild... not cool in a guild that intentionally has no heirarchy. (lol a bit personal I suppose for us CoV)
11. PVP areas - i.e. arena floor
12. water somewhere
13. Player owned houses and land to build up cities. and a banking system to boot.
14. Gosh so much more... I\"d go on for hours and make a boring list.
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Post by: Zan on November 30, 2005, 08:13:21 pm
I expect an environment that can submerge me in a fantasy world and give me the feeling that I actually am my character. A game that will let me interact with my environment and my fellow players in as many ways as possible. A world with many choices and options, where you can do what you want and become who you want. Also a place where not everything revolves around fighting and killing.

But yes crafting would be an excellent start :P
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Post by: lanser on November 30, 2005, 08:39:40 pm
Money, Happyness and a Long Life
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Post by: Nightflyer0ne on November 30, 2005, 09:49:35 pm
Yeah, I\'ve got to go with crafting being the big thing for me. It\'s the part I prefer in most of the games I play.

At the very least, I\'d like to see more of the quests working. Having to kill rats in order to get started doing anything isn\'t all that great, esp. if it doesn\'t really fit what your character would do.

Night
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Post by: Linken on November 30, 2005, 11:56:32 pm
For me, its all about character customization and a breathing, iteractive game world. I want lots of character options, weapons and armor to make my character unique.  Alot of games try, but fail utterly.
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Post by: GullyFoyle on December 01, 2005, 03:32:56 am
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Originally posted by Linken
For me, its all about character customization and a breathing, iteractive game world. I want lots of character options, weapons and armor to make my character unique.  Alot of games try, but fail utterly.


Star Wars Galaxies was great for character customization, at character creation, and even had more options if you were dealing with a Master Image Designer who could monkey with all kinds of character looks, from hairstyles, eye angle/shape, length/size of nose, skin color, eye color, body build, etc. You get the idea.

But to implement it would require a lot of work by the coders, 3D modellers, and texture artists. We can still hope tho! :D
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Post by: Lolitra, Celorrim Purrty Twins on December 01, 2005, 08:21:51 am
we expect nothing, but enjoy what is provided and RP away in our own little fashion...

but crafting and charactor uniqueness... and and and... [points to all the above...]  would all be nice... so as an when the DEVs develop - we will be here to enjoy it and use it in our little fashion...  lol
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Post by: Nikodemus on December 01, 2005, 11:30:31 am
A land of adventure and challange without thinking about ooc stuff all the time
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Post by: Archon on December 01, 2005, 04:34:42 pm
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1. Crafting
2. Visible armor
3. Large areas to explore and adventure
4. Large variety of monsters to interact with and/or kill
5. Decent contros
6. Extra Animations for Emotes and RP related actions
7. Ability to sit in chairs
8. Updating HP bar
9. Added variety of available skills
10. Guild structure not so rigid - i.e. only one person can be named the highest rank in a guild... not cool in a guild that intentionally has no heirarchy. (lol a bit personal I suppose for us CoV)
11. PVP areas - i.e. arena floor
12. water somewhere
13. Player owned houses and land to build up cities. and a banking system to boot.
14. Gosh so much more... I\"d go on for hours and make a boring list.


Keep the list goin! :P

14. Character customization
15. Weapon customization - not just crafting, I mean different looks for different suffixes and prefixes.
16. Ability to create shelves, rugs, etc.. for the houses of #13 XD.
17. Extra weapons, not just crafting, but looting, maces, bows, clubs, staffs, orbs, etc...
18. Boats, caravans, etc.. (buyable and craftable)
19. Buyable drinks from the taverns NPCs (specifically the Oja tavern)
20. Storage!!! A nice way to include trunks and so forthe (if a shovel can be un-pick-up-able, so can chests or storage trunks :P).

I brought it to 20!
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Post by: stfrn on December 01, 2005, 06:15:58 pm
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Originally posted by Nikodemus
A land of adventure and challange without thinking about ooc stuff all the time

Ditto for me. As Sid Meier put it, \"A game is a series of meaningfull choices.\"

Induane and Archon, this thread should be for what you want in a game, not for what you want in planeshift. We have a full forum section for wishes, and more then one for bugs. If everyone crowded this thread with what planeshift is currently lacking, then there would be no room for anything else :)
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Post by: Zan on December 01, 2005, 09:27:57 pm
Archon ... you really need to start playing more again, man.

\"19. Buyable drinks from the taverns NPCs (specifically the Oja tavern) \"

That was done a while ago. Brado is selling various drinks now.
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Post by: Altharion on December 01, 2005, 10:28:00 pm
what i expect from a free mmorpg isnt really much...

from a commercial one i would expect the normal standard of features gameplay wise and graphic wise.
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Post by: lucifeir on December 02, 2005, 06:07:59 am
I expect it to be like real life. You get older growing stuff and owning shops and whatnot
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Post by: Kiirani on December 02, 2005, 06:29:59 am
What do I -expect- or what do I -want-? I expect to walk into the main city and ask a question, then instantly be insulted and called a \"noob\" for not knowing, instead of getting an answer ^_^

I -want- a decent community. Stuff to do is nice, too.  In future, I hope ps has more stuff to do ^_^
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Post by: Learch on December 02, 2005, 08:30:12 am
I agree with many of the sentiments here.

For me, it boils down to \"More stuff to do\"...

I\'d like to see more environments and places to explore, more things to discover (those cherished \"aha!\" moments).

I\'d like to see more of those \"were you online when...\" events (I still regret missing the Ulbernaut invasion of Hydlaa Plaza)... The stuff people talk about for months later!

The Planeshift community is great -- any activity that encourages interaction is very welcome (quests/uber-monsters that require multiple players to complete, etc.)

Additional visual character customization would be nice to enhance RP -- I\'m still looking for the \"gray-haired Ylian with the pot-belly, dirty fingernails, nervous eye twitch, and lopsided hat\" appearance! :)



(Man, I love this game!)
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Post by: shorty13 on December 03, 2005, 10:32:19 pm
Basically, everything.  This way you can live your life how you please.  Some can go out killing and gain money from loot.  Some can go into politics and become a king.  Some can craft and not have to touch a monster.  Some can do absolutely nothing except talk.  Basicallly, living life as it is. (in a medieval place with magic and swords, etc.. of course ;) )
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Post by: Rerogo on December 04, 2005, 12:15:29 am
Crafting has been at the top of my list of most wanted stuff for a while now. And, yeah, that\'s about it. Killing stuff is too boring, and mining takes too long.
Title: My two "trias"
Post by: Kythag on December 05, 2005, 06:47:14 am
I expect detail.  I don\'t care about graphical excellence.  I want to poke through the garbage and find a crappy weapon because some thief opened my storage and stole my nice expensive sword that I bought from some greedy farming guru because that\'s what they want from a game.

I want to be able to raid said greedy, farming guru\'s stash and have my hands chopped off if I get caught stealing it.  I want to see the words \"noob, newb, newbie, etc\" changed to buffoon so I never have to hear that phrase again!  If you can change \"OMG\" to \"By the gods\", then you can handle this request.

(Slight pause for a moment of silence for the efforts of the programmers)

I want to see players cooking food for other players and calling city security to arrest them for not paying.  I want to see the no good non-payers have a chance to escape capture if they are slick enough.  I also want to see them have to scurry around until they have paid for their crimes.

I want to see cooks lose their restaurants because they couldn\'t pay rent because, we all boycotted paying them because they called us a buffoon!

I think you get the idea.  If it doesn\'t happen, o well.  If it does, by the gods!

Kythag
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Post by: lucifeir on December 06, 2005, 06:42:02 am
I expect as real experience as to the games extent