PlaneShift

Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Pestilence on December 13, 2005, 02:17:33 pm

Title: Community involving - Cardgame
Post by: Pestilence on December 13, 2005, 02:17:33 pm
Well ofcourse I am in no position to do anything about it, but still I have been wondering how with a game like PS you could get the community involved with really making Planeshift.

An idea I had was perhaps hold a contest sometime for graphicss and to make it a little less challenging with the 3d stuff I was thinking of graphics for a cardgame.

It is mentioned once that someday a cardgame is planned andThink it might be a great idea to ask the community to send in things they made themselves.

If everyone send in one card the devs could use them perhaps to make the cardset and you have a whole lot of art taken from the community that is in the game.

What do you all think? Good idea? Impossible?
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Post by: lanser on December 13, 2005, 02:37:06 pm
My first thought is copyright minefield
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Post by: Drey on December 13, 2005, 04:30:15 pm
if you ask me it sounds like fun...

Also, i believe the Blitzers have something similar for a few guild members, dont remember too well though.
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Post by: lynx_lupo on December 13, 2005, 05:49:10 pm
It has been started a few times before, search a bit.
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Post by: Pestilence on December 13, 2005, 10:33:19 pm
copyright minefield? Ofcourse not. All people would, as always with such events, have to agree that the entry may be used by Planeshift and no rights can be taken from use in Planeshift and that the entry is of their own work.

Well if it would happen it would have to be backed by the devs ofcourse. If you do it fans only then you would have a problem with copyrights in the end perhaps.
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Post by: TheMinority on December 14, 2005, 03:43:56 am
i\'d like to see a game like Triple Triad from Final Fantasy VIII. i\'ve spent countless hours playing that game both within FFVIII itself and through a computer reproduction.

For those of you who have no clue what i\'m talking about:
stuff like what it is an how to play (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_Triad)
the computer reproduction (http://ttg.qhimm.com/)

perhaps we, as a community, can develop a game similar (or maybe completely different) to this that will be unique to planeshift. after all, every world has its fads. shouldn\'t planeshift have one? ^_^
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Post by: steuben on December 14, 2005, 04:17:12 am
hmm. i\'ve got one game built. but i\'m waiting for a few test results on it to come back.

but, something like triple triad, with a ps twist. hmm.

*ponders a moment*
hexs, hexs, must be based on hexes...

*rushes back to mad scientist style lab*

mad laughter can be heard through the door.
\"i\'ll show them! i\'ll show them all!\"
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Post by: Ralas on December 14, 2005, 06:23:56 am
Triple Triad!  That game Rules!  A card game like that would be a lot of fun...the only problem is that it would instantly make people think of Final Fantasy.  Well I\'m torn...it would definitely add to the sense of community.  I s\'pose as long as it\'s truly uniqe, I.E. nothing like triple triad or anything else, this is a good idea.
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Post by: Hellios on December 14, 2005, 06:25:45 am
Why doesnt the Community vote on style and rules. That would get more people involved and it would create an entirely new game designed for PS from the players of PS.
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Post by: Archon on December 14, 2005, 08:02:59 am
I agree with Hellios, have the community itself make rules, vote on them, fix them up, etc...

In a sense, shouldn\'t this thread be in the Wishlist?
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Post by: Pestilence on December 14, 2005, 08:36:47 am
It seems to become more of a wishlist thread indeed ;)
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Post by: lanser on December 14, 2005, 10:14:22 am
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Originally posted by Pestilence
Well if it would happen it would have to be backed by the devs ofcourse. If you do it fans only then you would have a problem with copyrights in the end perhaps.


and of course the devs (Talad?) have plenty of spare time to check the copyright on 50+  cards a must if they are directly associated to Planeshift.

Sorry to be so negative but I would rather they work on the game itself :)
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Post by: Pestilence on December 14, 2005, 10:46:59 am
Why check it? If they make it that the ones entering it promise its there own your pretty much covered. If then something is wrong people need to come to you and bring proof first.

Anyhow said it should need the backing of the devs. Doesn\'t mean they would have to organize it, but they would have to tell things like what the requirements would be and such and make things about the entries like whaat I said and have make sure the one who does organize it is to be trusted ;)
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Post by: lanser on December 14, 2005, 11:16:14 am
Well if the cards are linked to Planeshift then that must bring in the PS copyright holder (Atomic Blue) and for the sake of plausible denyability/due diligence/CYA or whatever you call it someone has to check.


Maybe I should have been a lawyer seeing as I don\'t seem to trust people anymore :(

*typos
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Post by: Pestilence on December 14, 2005, 12:03:31 pm
hmm Ok well as I said I don\'t think it has to be a dev who has to do the checking exept perhaps the checking of the people. It would be a community thing so don\'t see anything bad about having community people. Yep would love to help myself if asked ;)

Anyhow in the end you would only really need to check the ones you would be using in the game not all the entries ofcourse ;)
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Post by: lanser on December 14, 2005, 06:06:01 pm
Sorry but I don\'t see how anything that contains Planeshift materials be it graphics, place names, race names or any other copyrighted materials, could be left up to the community no matter how willing or trustworthy.

Anyway this is just my opinion and if it is allowed then good luck to all, just don\'t hold your breath :)
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Post by: Pestilence on December 15, 2005, 04:12:50 am
Who do you think most of the devs and GMs were before becoming devs and GMs? ;)

Yep communitymembers ;)
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Post by: Hellios on December 15, 2005, 04:19:30 am
It may not have to be with PS content. If anyone has played \"Magic : the gathering\" it has nothing to do with the real world. Why doesnt the community make up a game that the characters IG make up. Like humans made magic cards or solitaire. PS could have a card game that is total fantasy within PS
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Post by: Valbrandr on December 15, 2005, 04:27:48 am
I think what you are trying to do is a great thing to do.  It gets the community involved in this project and makes everyone feel some sort of worth and take pride into what PS will become.  it would be a great initiative indeed Meriner :).

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Sorry but I don\'t see how anything that contains Planeshift materials be it graphics, place names, race names or any other copyrighted materials, could be left up to the community no matter how willing or trustworthy.


Hmm your view kinda scares me, I understand most members in the Community do not have certain talents that could help.. but if ideas and whatnot are not welcomed from the community and the community as a whole cannot be trusted then we have no community.. to me its nearly as simple as that :P.

Edit: I understand that some of our members are a bit crazy.. but im talking about as a whole stilll just to clarify :)
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Post by: lanser on December 15, 2005, 09:02:27 am
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Originally posted by Valbrandr
Hmm your view kinda scares me, I understand most members in the Community do not have certain talents that could help.. but if ideas and whatnot are not welcomed from the community and the community as a whole cannot be trusted then we have no community.. to me its nearly as simple as that :P.


You all seem to be missing my point it is not about the trustworthyness of the community it is about protecting the game of PlaneShift. Which probably could not afford a copyright lawsuit.

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Originally posted by Pestilence
Who do you think most of the devs and GMs were before becoming devs and GMs?

Yep communitymembers

Bit of a chicken and egg situation here but the one that counts was a developer first and foremost, the community came afterwards also I would not include GM\'s with the devs


*edit typo




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Post by: Pestilence on December 16, 2005, 11:04:36 am
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a copyright lawsuit.


Uhm is it just me or is that like.... Way to doomscenario.

First of if they check well you can\'t check everything so people can\'t sue you as far as I know before warning you that you are using their art.

Secondly Planeshift isn\'t making a profit here so don\'t see any reason why someone would want to sue for one cardimage in the whole game.

Thirdly Planeshift has been using a lot of art made by people who are not officially devs but who do help there so I am sure the dev team has it\'s procedures to make sure it\'s all authentic and unless I hear otherwise I think that should be good enough for such an event as this aswell.

Anyhow so lets end this part of the discussion till we hear from a dev that this would be a big problem not easily fixed. Perhaps I don\'t know all the steps that should be taken to ensure safety, but I am sure the dev team has thought about it already ;)