PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: lliad on December 17, 2005, 06:21:11 am
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Hihi,
I have been following this game for a year or 2 before combat was introduced. Also played for a few months on diff. characters
(Aidenki, Darksteel, Lliad, Lyfe)
atm I\'m playing FFXI (Windowed) and I was talking to a friend about Planeshift. He asked me \'What is the name of the world?\'
This, I could not answer. So I checked the site and searched around a bit...but could find no answer (didn\'t check to much, nor did I use \'search\')
The site tells us the name of the game, Planeshift.
The name of the big underground city, Yliakum.
Beyond that, Stone Labyrinths, Kadaikos and Pradesha.
So err...I guess my question is, whats the name of the world/planet? Planeshift? Hmmm.
Thanks in advance for replys =P
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I can\'t quite recall, but I remember reading a story of how the crystal was created and the hollowed stalactite beneath via a point of view of the surface world. though I might have had some insanely screwed up dream from deprevation of diamonds and emeralds, best bet would be to get into IRC and catch the big boss on a spare moment nothing equals to the words of truth form the creator(s) :D
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I\'ve always used the term Yliakum for the name of my characters world. It is more than just a big city, it is the entire stalagtite with all its levels and all its cities. But it isn\'t a world like we know it either since there are other places like the labyrinths as well. I guess their world definition is a bit different than ours but then again was our world definition at medieval times the same as it is now?
Yliakeans don\'t see a world as a round ball of dirt floating around in space, their world is what they know and for most that is probably just Yliakum.
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It must have a name tho, the big round ball floating in space...I\'ll check IRC whenever I get the chance then =)
Thanks.
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The massive, hollow world that contains Yliakum is called Ohm.
^ True fact, though not a public one, so imma get spanked now. xD
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Originally posted by Moogie
^ True fact, though not a public one, so imma get spanked now. xD
And praised by storywriters who are forced to write things with limited world information :P
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oooo\' thanks Moogie!
Ohm, I like it. Why isn\'t this public? It\'s not -the- most needed info, but still good for storywrites as Draklar said.
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Ooooh!! *screenshots the post in case it gets deleted for giving away top secret world name-like information*
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I\'d show illustrations and everything if I thought I could get away with it. ;) The reasons such information is kept private are trivial at best; Talad thinks it\'s better that players only know what their characters would naturally know if they lived within Yliakum. While this does make sense from a roleplaying point of view, it does somewhat limit the potential hype of PS and means that alot of creativity goes completely to waste, locked behind closed doors that nobody will likely ever view.
Being in the dark about 80% of all the information available on PS settings and design sucks. I know that because I used to be, before becoming a dev. Gaining access to that stuff really showed me how PS could achieve so much more positive reviews... if only people knew more info about it. There\'s some fascinating facts, and to say it has grand plans for the future would be a major understatement.
The ongoing mentality is that information will be slowly fed to people in the form of ingame books and maps, but I really can\'t see how that is enough. Keeping secrets in order to maintain a level of suprise and intrigue is definitely a must, but PS has many, many secrets that I don\'t personally see as important enough to keep out of general knowledge. Trivial little facts, tidbits here and there that would mean nothing to be put in public but help to maintain people\'s interest in the PS world. And, believe it or not, most of this was created at least three years ago.
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How silly :|
I\'m pretty sure in case of Phinehas and alikes, the character knew much more about the world than the player himself (not that knowing more about Yliakum than what is given to players requires amazing knowledge). Like I said, taking such position is really, really silly.
Not to mention the pain for us writers =(
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i agree. if needs must we can/will sign arcane legalesse-esc(esk? esque?) documents that say we won\'t spill the beans in any... manner. well maybe not any manner, but the idea is there.
yes. we do need a writer\'s info package. don\'t know what would be in it. don\'t know how it would be distributeded. don\'t know who would get it.
but if all sorts of interesting and important details are being held like that. it does make writing good to great stories a lot easier. rather then the mediocre to very good that we have.
(got to stop reading those how to write books.)
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*cough* My stories are great anyway >.>
You can always add things that won\'t be true for Planeshift. Although that can be helluva annoying for the writer when it is proven wrong.
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and just imagine how good they could be if you knew.
Originally posted by Draklar
Although that can be helluva annoying for the writer when it is proven wrong.
that\'s what i worry about when i write. am i writing something that is wrong, or slightly off? will it be wrong in the future?
city names and such i can cope with. i just don\'t add them in. but other things like terrain types, and such. knowing if such things exsist allows us to write better and fuller stories...
*heads off to ponder a wish list item*
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Originally posted by steuben
and just imagine how good they could be if you knew.
World of Planeshift isn\'t the only realm I\'m writing about. I\'ve made my own :P
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Originally posted by Moogie
Being in the dark about 80% of all the information available on PS settings and design sucks. I know that because I used to be, before becoming a dev. Gaining access to that stuff really showed me how PS could achieve so much more positive reviews... if only people knew more info about it. There\'s some fascinating facts, and to say it has grand plans for the future would be a major understatement.
No offense, but I think we\'d all complain less if we were kept in the dark about being kept in the dark. Ignorance is bliss to an extent.
That\'s a little silly, though. There are no new forum mods needed, and many in-game mods (not naming names) aren\'t very active. Out of the whole list, I\'ve only seen one online at the most! Who wants to start a petition for freedom of information? :D
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I... really don\'t see how mods fit into the discussion at all :P Moogie is the only one who is more or less actively a mod and a dev - and acraig, Talad, and Vengeance have a ton of other things to take care of than play, unfortunately.
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I think a writer\'s package would be nice, I too am constantly worying about being wrong on trivial things. But I think the name of the world was something not needed. I\'m interested in a package that details random facts about Yliakum so we can write truthfully.
But I am a writer so I have no problems with things being withheld, that\'s the name of the game^^. Otherwise what would there be left to discover?
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My character is supposed to be highly educated, so I think he ought to know what the world is called. (Besides, I already knew :P )
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Being highly educated really means nothing in this case - since characters have no awareness of anything beyond Yliakum :) This is why the issue is about player knowledge and not character knowledge.
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Then why is \'Black Flame\' a flase religion born of the the cave outside of Yliakum, an available choice in the character screen? Besides, most of the species came from outside of Yliakum, it\'s far-fetched t beleive that they would not tell their descendants about the outside world.
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You could also wonder how come most of the races don\'t even know what are their main cities called like :P
There\'s just too many examples like that. What is known by characters should be left up to players, not devs. With certain guidelines and rules made by the latter of course.
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ok well I didn\'t read every post in the thread (i\'m not a good reader) so there might have been word about this in here somewhere already.
Ok I was wondering... if the world is Ohm... and we live in Yliakum... are there other \"continents\" that we might be able to travel to...
From my other point of view... We live in a Stalactite... That stalactite is known as Yliakum... how can the world be Ohm if the stalactite is Yliakum? Is Ohm supposed to be where the Stalactite is located?
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Yliakum is a stalactite located within a huge cave (or big empty space, whatever). That cave is called Ohm.
If I got Moogie\'s post correctly that is.
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ok that sounds better to me :)... now that makes me wonder... are there BIG things that might go into the cave and could accidentally \"damage\" Yliakum? how about other Stalactites with other races and what not in them... how about when we get other servers... those become differen\'t stalctites?
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Personally, I don\'t think those things are quite lickely to appear :P
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Originally posted by Karyuu
Being highly educated really means nothing in this case - since characters have no awareness of anything beyond Yliakum :) This is why the issue is about player knowledge and not character knowledge.
How about this: My father (who was an alchemist) dissapeared one day when I was a child and started sending me visions of the world in my dreams. How about that?
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Were the visions accompanied by written words or sounds? ;)
You do have a point, there are ways of learning what the outside world is like - but the knowledge is as common as your average Joe knowing that we are in the minor arm of the Milky Way called the Orion Spur. Besides, we\'re supposed to work with what we\'re currently given - and while I too would very much like to ask for more, you have to be careful when receiving \"visions\" of something you, as a player, have absolutely no knowledge of.
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Originally posted by Karyuu
we\'re supposed to work with what we\'re currently given
Eheh... A sponge with which we\'re supposed to stop the flood ^^
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Originally posted by Karyuu
Were the visions accompanied by written words or sounds? ;)
You do have a point, there are ways of learning what the outside world is like - but the knowledge is as common as your average Joe knowing that we are in the minor arm of the Milky Way called the Orion Spur. Besides, we\'re supposed to work with what we\'re currently given - and while I too would very much like to ask for more, you have to be careful when receiving \"visions\" of something you, as a player, have absolutely no knowledge of.
I knew that :P
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Originally posted by Moogie
The massive, hollow world that contains Yliakum is called Ohm.
well, since noone else will ...
I=E/R
I give you Ohm\'s Law ...obey it ...NOW!
*(I is current in amps, E is voltage in volts, and R is resistance measured in ohms)
my apologies for posting the wrong equation previously