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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: Silvermania on December 18, 2005, 10:35:00 am
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OK now i like online RPG but how do i make them?
i dont understand html and c++ and that crap so if thats the only way i have to learn it.....
or is it with a program?????????
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err did I get you right, you have no ideas of HTML or C++ or any other kind of programming and want to make an Online RPG, ....
/me bursts in laughter ....
MWahaHahahAHAhahahHAhahAhAyhayha
/me calms down
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to make a program you are going to need to know some prgramming language, unless you hire a team of chimps to program for you...
secondly what does this have to do with planeshift?
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Even though there is RPG-making software (aka RPG Maker), I seriously doubt there\'s something that would allow you to make an online one without any programming knowledge.
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I remember that there used to be this game for Dos called Quest or something which allowed you to make your own Hugo style RPGs. But I don\'t think that\'s what you\'re looking for....
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well first you need a dev team consisting of artists, programers, musicians, etc. Then you need a video game engine for ex. planeshift uses the crystal space engine then you (or your 3d modelor) will need a program to model the 3d objects such as 3ds max, maya, etc. then a compiler will be needed for your programer such as visual c++, dev,etc. and ofcourse you will need a server for all your people to play online with. It may sound impposible but it can be done if you put your mind to it and be patient.
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Yeah. So wait. You want to create a game with absolutely no programming knowledge whatsoever, and I assume you want a website to go with it, which you want to make with no html knowledge whatsoever.
XD If you want to PROGRAM a game, you have to learn a programming language to program it in.
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The most complex thing I can make in C is a calculator simmilar to the windows one, ..., and that only with some builder software like Borland Builder or C# express edition ...
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Well the calculator isn\'t that hard, but hey if you want to make an RPG in C with no knowledge at all...ehh good luck.
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Not only should you at least be familiar with HTML, proficient in C++ or a language of similar capability, have a thorough understanding of networking and the various tradeoffs that you have to make, you should understand version control, build systems, cross-platform issues, SQL, HCI, and artificial intelligence.
And then you have to be able to make a fun game, which is completely unrelated to the above factors.
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Your best bet is to learn something like c++, as its an OOP which is really useful for game design, there are some great online tutorials (just google for \"c++ tutorial\") . Its not really that hard to learn - you can pick up all the basics within a couple of days, if you\'re good at that kind of stuff...
Then your best bet is to start off with a 2D game, given how you have 1 less dimension to work in, and it saves you the effort of diong 3D models.
So, you\'ll want a GUI so your programme won\'t just run in the background. Try SDL or something - I found SDL particularly easy to learn.
And yeh, thats about all there is to makin your first, simplest game. I imagine you\'ll be able to improve on it from there.
If you want to make it multiplayer, you will need alot of networking knowledge (sockets and stuff like that just doesn\'t come natually...).
And, yeh, basically have fun. I doubt you\'ll finish many of your first few games cos you\'ll get bored and want to move onto something more complex, but thats how you get better at programming and game design...
*Nebuduck goes back to putting in the final touches on his 2D charachter\'s moving sprites*
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Now if you want to jump straight ahead to gamedeving then i won\'t be the one to stop you(you\'ll do that fine by yourself).
Professional game\'s primarily use a C like language. That be C or C++.
Now i put here the ultimate guide for you so you can in just 5 small steps become a great gamedeveloper!:
1. Pick up any book about C/C++
2. Start reading it
3. In a year or so when you feel you have a good grasp around this language start looking into technologies commonly used around games(OGL, D3D, SDL, SQL, AI, network)
4. When you know all the stuff you need start coding a game
5. Goto 4
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OR, you could partition your harddrive for DOS, and find a copy of \"Quest\". Of course, you\'ll need an old-fashioned A:/ to read the floppy disc, and I don\'t think it works with VGA or modern video cards. :-D
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Birthday: 28. October 1992
Huh...
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Annah
Birthday: 28. October 1992
Huh...
:rolleyes:
Are you implying that young people are incapable of making games or of understanding the requirements to make them? :)
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omg imsooooo drunk wsyaehg
meand mymamtes wjenm drinking
but create somethimg like planeshift its just neabtufutif
youll need 3d max 5 at leaser for the 3d side and c++
3d max is seasyto lean
i learnt 3d max without any tutorials.
but c++ is the hard oart
im sooo drunk haye
Edited for language.
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Originally posted by Kiirani
Originally posted by Annah
Birthday: 28. October 1992
Huh...
:rolleyes:
Are you implying that young people are incapable of making games or of understanding the requirements to make them? :)
*Gasps in disbelief*
Who could possibly think such a thing?!?!?!
*Goes to dig a hole to bury Annah\'s body in*
For YOUR information, I very probably have enough programming knowledge to make a game, or something, and am only 15 >: |.
Now... I probably couldn\'t do AI or networking or stuff, but I know enough to do simple game programming, and I\'ll learn other skills and stuff as I need them.
Info for potential programmers: I work in C++ and SDL cos they\'re so damn easy.
Info for Kii: PHP would probably fail at any game making attempt :P
(as a side note, Kii, you take all my PHP references too seriously - honestly, they\'re all in jest.)
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Nebuduck, php would not fail in game dev. There are very many online text mmo\'s made in php. and as a side note php is often used as an alternative to lua/lisp/python like game-scripting languages
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Well... to an extent, I was told...
OK, online games (for example, game!) are written in things like PHP, but I was talking about the more graphical styles of games... sorry, should have made myself clearer.
Its also a fun thing to say, because alot of people (mentioning no names...) like PHP alot...
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Now im making games already!!!!!!!!!!!!
hbusxnbkngvnbfs..........
not online rpg\'s......
but i found something to make it(not cheap,and no coding and still very buggie)
Realmcrafter (http://www.realmcrafter.com/)
so you say that i need programming knowledge?
then ill start at it!!!!
(and my game that is online shooter in beta:Alien Wars Online (http://www.freewebs.com/alien-wars-online) )
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Originally posted by Annah
Birthday: 28. October 1992
Huh...
:rolleyes:
For further interesting facts ask around what age was blueCommand when he joined PS dev team :P
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good choice i use that as well
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Originally posted by Draklar
For further interesting facts ask around what age was blueCommand when he joined PS dev team :P
Then ask any dev what they think of him. If you don\'t get an interesting response, just prompt, \"You know, the guy who rewrote the movement system.\"
Let\'s just say that blue is very skilled, but... well, ask the devs... ;)
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OK now i got visual basic.
imleaning with it soon
BUT FIRST THE PROGRAM NEED TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! X( X( X( X( X( X(
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Originally posted by Silvermania
OK now i got visual basic.
How about learning a programming language instead? :D