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Gameplay => In-Game Roleplay Events => Topic started by: Proglin on January 10, 2006, 02:27:58 pm
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there is a melee tournament coming up!!!
this will be a bit different then what we are used to, this time, to make sure all players can join, we intergrated a class-system. so it does not matter what level in melee you are, you can allwyas join in.
the three classes are:
minor [melee level 1 up untill 10]
medium [melee level 11 up untill 50]
master [ melee level 51 up untill 70]
the awards are good aswell
minor: [ entrance fee 100 trias]
1st: 5k and an ulbernaut fur
2nd: 3k and an ulbernaut heart
3rd: 1k
medium: [entrance fee 1000 trias]
1st: 10k and a sword
2nd: 5k and a dagger
3rd: 2.5k
master: [entrance fee 2000 trias]
1st: 30k , a mug and the title of \"brawler\"
2nd: 20k and a mug
3rd: 10k
this fine tournament will be held at 22:00 gmt on the 17th of january. i hope yo see you all there. guaranteed fun for the entire family!!!
also new to this tournament is the bookie! place bets on your favorite fighter and gain 40% of your input + your input! zabrey will be the bookie, so start making friends with him :D
if you have any questions, you can always ask gag, zabrey or me
-Proglin Unsir
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Are you prepared? Today\'s the day!
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How can you tell others melee level? Honor system?
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Of course, it seems that trust will be a good part of it (except a GM spies on someone\'s skills). But if you punch someone with 50 damage, you can\'t be a beginner at level 2!
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Originally posted by LigH
Of course, it seems that trust will be a good part of it (except a GM spies on someone\'s skills).
Er...?
What would be nice if there was some way to do an all on all melee >.>
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this was a great success! good job proglin! (oh and congrats on the engagement)
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Bravo Proglin :D I had a great time. I cant wait till the next tournament you hold and look forward to it. I am happy to say I know the winner of the medium class was my sister, Zorbels, and congratulations to her :)
and a well done and congratulations to Maelgwyn in winning the masters :D
Dylia leans over and whispers to Proglin \"I have a great idea so we should get together sometime soon for a drink at the tavern and bring that lovely new girl you met so I can meet her\" :P
Just name the time and place and I will make time for it :P Hope to see you there soon
[Edit >.> made a mistake :P ]
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Excellent job putting on the tournament. One of the best so far. Since this one was followed by a wedding proposal, will the next one be followed by a wedding? ;)
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i can\'t get married after every tournament Einnol! ould be to many wives! plus it allready is hard enough to find a female dwarf in yliakum
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Just drink till the males look pretty!
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Originally posted by Proglin
it allready is hard enough to find a female dwarf in yliakum
That is true, my friend. I guess we are both pretty lucky. ;)
Originally posted by goland
Just drink till the males look pretty!
But, after you sober up, then what? :D
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Einnol I think Goland is assuming you will stay drunk...err...as he always is. *leaves goland a beer for his next visit to this thread.*
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Originally posted by Proglin
plus it allready is hard enough to find a female dwarf in yliakum
There was a lonely lady, her name was Iantha... ;)
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YES! At long last... another tournament is coming up! The Entertainer is back in business! The next Tournament will be.... The Masters Of Magic!!! Thie tournament allows only the usage of Magic spells and Mana potions. All other potions are prohibited. There will be a class-system intergrated. And two Mages will battle eachother for the title of: Master of Magic. Javeroal decided not to defend his title, so it will surely pass on to a new Master.
The classes are arranged as follows:
Minor-Class: Crystal level 1-10 And none of the mental skills maxed
Medium-Class Crystal level 1- 20 And one or more mental stats maxed
Master-class Crystal level 21-30 And one or more mental stats maxed
The Awards will once again remain a secret. But we will once again not disapoint you. And since this tournament is in honour of Elesiy\'s and my wedding, there will be no entrance fee!!!
I hope to see you all at thenext Incredible Masters of Magic Tournament, Tuesday the 14th of March at 21:00 GMT
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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! I was just about to bug you about a tourny! :P Sweet I will be there!
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Yay, count me in, lol
J K
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Hey hey! Two of my three favorite fenkis! <.< >.> Zorbels? Where\'s your sister?
Good to hear you are in gals! Do your best,and give us a blast!
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/me attaches a brand new flyer to the wall of Harns Smithie
\"there...\"
Proglin walks away, rubbing his hands, and smiling all the way.
A Klyros, curiously approaches the flyer, it says:
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Ladies and Gentleman!!!
A new tournament is coming up! After the great succes of Masters of Magic, an at the request of many, The time has come to present you with \"Steel Warriors\" A grand tournament, using swords only. If you are interested in joining, contact the Entertainment staff! [http://ugo.sinet.it/planeshift/index.php/ProglinEntertainment/HomePage] Participators in the Minor-class [lvl 1-20] pay 100 trias to enter. For the medium class [lvl 21-60] a fee of 500 trias is needed, and for the Master-class [61-80] a fee of 1000 trias is asked.
It will be a GREAT feast, with drinks, Strong warriors, and all fighting for that prestigious title of \"Sword Slinger\"Also, you can place a bet at our bookie. Bet who you think will win the tournament and win great loads of tria!
The awards will be kept a secret, but I promise you, they are once again worth it!
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The Klyors smiles, takes out his training swords, and runs to the arena.
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Yes ladies and Gents! Proglin and his famous crew are at it again! Please all, come see, come participate, it will be fun as always :)
The tournament will be at Tuesday, the 4th of May, at 2200 GMT
One more thing I ask of you... Could you people please keep hold of all the ruined SS you find on your path? We are planning on using them for the tournaments. We will pay 1500 trias each.
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Very good again, Proglin!
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But while it\'s 22:00gmt I can\'t join you, too late, what about making them just one or two hours earlier so many people in Europe could join too?
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/me reads the notice, and prepares for some hard training....
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Yay! my first tourny! I'm going to get so creamed :)
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Thanks for doing these Proglin, and for keeping at it. Not sure I can make it but I will try. But I, too, fear I will get whipped. But, meh, worth a try. And I will keep a lookout for those ruined short swords.
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There are people at lvl 60?? ::|
How many progress points does that take? It has taken me nearly 3 months to get to lvl 16. :lol:
--edit: and according to my calendar, May 4 is a Thursday.
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:woot:You know I will be there if I can make it that day Proglin. Yay! I love tournaments!!!! \\o//
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Siteri looks at the rules for the upcoming tournament.
"W-what?! NO! I'm not strong enough to hold a longsword! I guess I'm not going to be able to be in it after all..."
She skulks away unhappily. I guess I can still watch, she thinks.
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The tournament will be at Tuesday, the 4th of May, at 2200 GMT
To clear up an confusion the tournament will be held on Thursday May 4th at 2200 GMT there is no tuesday 4th of may.
Illori member of proglin's entertainment
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WHAT WAS I THINKING???!!!
Ladies and Gentleman! Sorry for my WAY to long absence! Proglin's tournament will be back in action. I thought fun would increase for me if I stopped my tournament, But when looking at pics made by 100 different people, my stomache got all tingly. I can't stop the tournaments... I love them to much, and was under the impression you liked them as well. Time to get back to work and assemble a team to help me out once more. So please, take a look at this website, it has been updated and ready for use once more.
http://ugo.sinet.it/planeshift/index.php/ProglinEntertainment/Tournaments (All other parts will be updated as well in the near future)
To start things of with a minor blast, I'll be hosting a small running event tomorrow the 25th of Novemeber, and will start working on some serious tournaments once more. I grew older, I learned more, I want to do this with you guys. I am sorry I let so many of you down like I did.
So yeah! A running tournament. It'll be a stick relay race, with teams consisting out of 3 participators, some small fun to get things started. It'll be at 1900 GMT at the Arena entrance, so please be there and tell -a-friend!
Let's get this show on the road! :D
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YEEEEAAAAH!
Good to hear you're back in action! \\o//
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Indeed! Yay Proglin. \\o// This is good news.
/me cheers wildly.
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/me cheers wildly and jumps around till he falls off the end of the world :woot:
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Oh thank god he came to his senses! Yays! This is good news and has made my day. Thanks proglin got rethinking your position. I look forward to seeing tournaments in planeshift again, the events have been missed by many.
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A broad shoulder Kran sits in the shadow of a tree and listens to a group of passing traveler talk about some old Entertainer who is making a runing competition
/me grins then puts out a faint smile and gasps "hes back ...."
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wooho i canfinaly fight in one of those already fabled tourneys cant wait to beat everyone :devil: or be beaten by everyone :innocent:
hope you keep your tourneys in action for a long long time
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I wasn't around for these before.
Can't wait to see this.
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So much support, both new and experienced. Guys, you make me even surer of my plans. I shall speed things up :D
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:thumbup: Welcome back, my friend.
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YAAY!! PROGLIN!!!
So good to hear you are back doing what the community knows, is the best thing you are known as a Master at doing! ...oh, and your Entertainment team too, as well! \\o//
This Race or Running Event, I would love to be able to attend, help with, or join in on, ...but, the Mac OS X version of PlaneShift 0.3.017 is not available for download yet :(
Still, I hope it all goes well and that there is a healthy and numerous turnout of PS Players to celebrate and to welcome you back at the fray of fun!! :)
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Yay Proglin, and Kudos to the runners \\o//
/me sets of to run around the arena and dreams of being a famous athlet herself
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Thanks Proglin that was fun today.
Now for the fighting!!!
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I have a little surprise for you xD, good luck with the tournament :)
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Unar eagerly awaits news of when the tournament will be.
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;D
2 of my favorites.
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Are you entering the tourney Unar, Here was me thinking i had a chance ;D
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Are you entering the tourney Unar, Here was me thinking i had a chance ;D
You still do ;)
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Some very good memories came of those tournaments. I'm glad to see Proglin's Entertainment is back in business. \\o//
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Some very good memories came of those tournaments. I'm glad to see Proglin's Entertainment is back in business. \\o//
If I remember right this is his last tournament :)
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If I remember right this is his last tournament :)
Hmm... Re-reading this post of Proglin's: http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=21511.msg298682#msg298682 from further back in this thread - I was left with the impression that a Tournament in Axe Skill which is coming up, might be Proglin's 10th Tournament, but isn't now going to be his last...
http://ugo.sinet.it/planeshift/index.php/ProglinEntertainment/Tournaments
...that website was recently updated to include future events - I somehow think that Yliakum has not seen the last of Proglin The Entertainer !
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...that website was recently updated to include future events - I somehow think that Yliakum has not seen the last of Proglin The Entertainer !
Uh-ow... they're on to me!
You are right :) After stopping the tournaments and concentrating mainly on other things, the fun actually decreased instead of increase, which kinda was what I had expected. So no reason to go about and quit the business right? There will be some slight adjustments in the tournaments as well as the tournament crew...but we're going to have loads of fun once more. Just give me a couple of weeks to get RL a tad less busy so I can work me butt of again to entertain all of you fiiiiine people.
:flowers: \\o//
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Horray! I remember with one of my first characters I donated all my savings to the tournament and then I didn't get to attend. Maybe I'll get to now!
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...that website was recently updated to include future events - I somehow think that Yliakum has not seen the last of Proglin The Entertainer !
Uh-ow... they're on to me!
You are right :) After stopping the tournaments and concentrating mainly on other things, the fun actually decreased instead of increase, which kinda was what I had expected. So no reason to go about and quit the business right? There will be some slight adjustments in the tournaments as well as the tournament crew...but we're going to have loads of fun once more. Just give me a couple of weeks to get RL a tad less busy so I can work me butt of again to entertain all of you fiiiiine people.
:flowers: \\o//
I would offer my help if I had three hands
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What would be of great help is a gm present to transport defeated players back to the arena. Especially poor enkis.
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I cath your drift, But the thing is that GM's aren't allowed to hepl out in player run events, or more nicely said; "Interfere with players Role-play" Now I know this is kinda double, me being both a player and a GM. But the team of Proglin's Entertainment and myself have done the last couple of tournaments without help from GM's. The arena will most likely be close to undoable if Enkidukai folks join in, the 20 minutes it'll take to walk back from Oja to the arena would most likely kill the atmosphere so I fully agree, it would be nice.
In other words, I would like to uphold the tradition of creating this tournament with players only, maybe one day I can turn the tournaments into GM-events. Till then I'll have to think of a way to have a tournament, and maintaining the fun. Meaning, either another location, or find ways to maintain the atmosphere. Well.... I had plenty of time to think about it while writing this sentace. I think I'll do both.
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Are you entering the tourney Unar, Here was me thinking i had a chance ;D
No, but I will be watching..
..and perhaps I will once again seek out the victors.
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I don't want to bring up something already talked about, but since it was mentioned, I'd like to make a point. Maybe those with the abiity to do so, will pass it along to the person that has the power.
The subject of player run events getting GM involvement.:
A fighting tournament. All a gm would be needed for is to transport the loser out of the DR back to the area of the event. This wouldn't even be a problem, if the game mechanics of dueling were set up more so that a loss in a duel, when specified as such, won't kill the character when they get to 0. Yes, there is the yield command I know. But it isn't a practical solution. Take a normal weapon smithed by someone, you can get a fully maxed character down to 0 in a few hits. Factor in lag and other problems, and I can see many times where having to manually enter in the yeild command is a viable option. Why not expand the dueling system then, to give the players the chioce of exactly how they would wnat thier duel to be. Give them the abiity to say auto yield, or upon reaching 0 they simply yield and have to rest while they regain health. And in the meantime, allow the GM team to simply move the character until the dueling system is expanded.
I'm not that familiar with medieval tournaments, but from what I understand, it was quite a bad thing to kill your opponent in battle. Resulting in you being automaticaly disqualified from the tournament and probably killed yoursself.
Why can't you have each player then use the yeild command after they get below a certain amount of health? Simple. It's not practical. First, if I were in a duel I wouldn't be focusing on my health bar, rather than more so focused on what my oponent was doing. Second, its too subjective, and not objective. With lag and other factors, both players could drop below the specified yeild point and then there is the problem of trying to figure out who was actually the winner and such. Makes it much simplier and easy on the judges if that was system automated.
The arena was designed to be used as a place to hold tournaments. It's more OOC to hold it anywhere else. The only problem is that a loss in a duel, unless the player sends the yield command, results in death. That's fine when you want to RP a murder and whatnot, but not for your tournament style duel. Thus is why more options to the player about how and what type of duel it is to be. It can't be abused as both parties have to agree on the terms. If you agree to something you don't like, well, as DaveG said, "don't blame the system, when you make stupid actions."
I do see the problem with GMs helping player events. GMs exist outside the World. To the character, they don't exist. The GM powers/abilities shouldn't be used to help characters as those powers don't actually exist to the character in their world.
But in some instances, there should be exceptions. The example I listed above as one. It's ooc to have a tournament where the loser dies. As such, the character shouldn't ever go to the DR. So if the character is already ooc becuase of going to the DR, then why is it any worse for a GM to teleport them back to the tournament, since the character is already ooc to begin with. So my point to all this is this: Let Gms have the ability to help in ooc instances for now since the game mechanics aren't setup to support true tournaments yet. And when the game does evolve, then there will not be any need for the GMs to have to step in.
In my mind it's worse to see a chain of enkis, or any race as a matter, having to run all the way back after a loss, all the while having to say to eveyone they come across, "you don't see me, i'm currently at the tournament, but I lost my match, so i'm ooc right now while I run back". A simple move from a GM would prevent all that and reduce ooc type situations, which is what I thought they were there for afterall.
Sorry if that post is messy. I'm at work and wrote it on the fly. Sorry if it seems a bit jumbled up.
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Write a bit more when you are at work ;) Nice and constructive post I'd say. There are some things I agree on and some parts Idisagree on mate. The arena being the one place to have tournaments for instance... It's a good place to hold a tournament, but doing one elsewhere isn't OOC at all, it's just outside of the arena. There are some places that suit themselves perfectely for such an ocasion. consumer gorge for example. Nice steep slopes, good places for the crowds, plenty of space, and somewhat in between the Hydlaa and Ojaveda. The difference between Dying and yielding is quite a big one I agree, and yeilding should be made easier. And not dying at the end of it should be an option, challenge one to a duel, and challenge one to death.
Then one comon misundersanding is that tournaments are won by the ones with less lag and better connections, this is not true, the one with higher stats doesn't even necesarilly win. In a running tournament.. aye, it is. My goal is to eliminate as many of those features as possible, by implementing a class system, seeding people, handing out weapons myself, setting some additional rules at every tournament. As for the running tournament, skill is implemented using a relay race instead of just running, the race, as in real life, is won or lost at the changing hands of the stick.
The las thing is that I'm trying really hard to keep everyone statisfied, one of the goals i to get your avarage standard PL-er to Role-play, and to show hardcore RPers that fighting and leveling can lead to Role-play.It's hard to please eveeryone, thus I fail at that attempt almost every time and day ;) For now... IC is maintained, although I admit... it's a close call.
Thanks for sharing your oppinion, I hope to have given a statisfying reply.
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Write a bit more you say? can do! :)
My thinking behind the "anywhere but the arena is occ" comment was thus: Say you hold it out in the middle of that field. Going off of what a medival tourny was (and tournies today as well), there would be tents, grand stands, etc setup for the event. Just going out to the middle of nowhere, well, to me at least makes as much sense as RPing a murder in front of Harnquist's shop while there are people running all about, and then trying to say you're character did that without being unoticed, or saying you are being held captive by thugs in the middle of the Laanx temple.
I'm not saying that in the future, when the game and the land maps are further expanded upon that having tournies in places other than the arena wouldn't be fine. I was just saying, as things are now, the only real IC place to hold a tourney, would be the arena, since that is the only area set up to facilitate proper dueling tournies ATM. Race events, are a different story though, the bigger the field the better. :) Just my opinion at least.
Hmm, what else. Ah yes, about the lag. I've attended a few of your past tournies. From what I have witnessed, you've done a DR of a job at making them fair and just.
My point about the lag was simply to say that if we tried to have it so that it was up to the players to monitor their health bar and then yield after it dropped past a certain point, well, it would be too subjective in determining a winner. Lag would be a major factor. We all know that the stats don't update in any real time fashion, simply due to where the server sits. Can't be helped. The other example I gave was that say both players hit each other and fall below the certain yield point. Determining a winner in that situation would be more difficult than it needs to be if the dueling system was simply expanded upon. It probably will though, just everything takes time is all.
I saw your race you recently put on as well. Not first hand though, but I did hear about it. I thought it was well planned out, and the "batton" thing was a key point. Equaled the playing field between the slower computers and the faster computers well. Over all, I think you and your team have done one DR of a job putting together these tournies.
I guess I forgot to mention that in my first post since I was concentrating on the "why, in certain situations, GM involvement should be allowed in tournies, such as a dueling tourny" point I was making. Hope this clears up some things. :)
From my view point, GMs should be allowed to use thier powers in certain instances until the game mechanics themselves are developed to a point where GMs don't need to be involved. I'd like to believe many GMs and players agree with this, and would hope that someone with the ability to do so will take this issue up with the people the have the power to say yes/no to this idea again.
I believe Talad wants a game where eveyone is in character as much as possible. Liminating the long OOC run back to the tourny after a loss in one of the rounds by allowing GMs to use thier ability to teleport players directly back to the side lines would help reduce OOC situations. Then, when the duel abilities are further developed, GMs using thier special abilities won't be needed anymore.
All I'm trying to say is that GMs should be able to use thier powers to help the RP of the game in areas where the current game mechanics lack until the time when the game mechanics can support such RP themselces. I thought the whole idea of the GM team was to help nurish the RP and reduce the OOC in the world. Using the teleport command on the losers of tourny matches would do just that.
Just another few hours and I'll be off of work for 2 days. \m/
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Well you got me mate :D
I never participated in a tournamnet, come to think of it...
hey...
/me cries.
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Just because a gm is present, doesn't mean it has to be a gm run event. Geez, the egos on those gms. :P ;D
Seriously, that is the only purpose I see for a gm in this case, transporting players to avoid that interruption in the flow of the event. A gm would be there to assist only, not to control the event, kind of like the healers getting the winners ready for the next battle. I don't think its OOC at all. Yes, it would be nice if there were more options to the duelling system other than death and a trip to the DR for the loser. But until that happens, this is the most logical solution. I am all for keeping things in IC but there has to be a balance with that and keeping good flow of an event.
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Seriously, that is the only purpose I see for a gm in this case, transporting players to avoid that interruption in the flow of the event.
/me throws pillows at Mordaan
Unfortantly we are not allowed to become involved unless we clear it with Talad. I do believe at Proglins last tournament the answer was no to GM involvement.
Personally I don't see why the tournament can't be held just a little closer to ojaveda in the fields. Basically in between Ojaveda and Hydlaa. Then everyone would have some walking time and it would be a little fairer. Heck holding it in ojaveda would be even fair as all other tournaments have been held at the arena in the past.
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Heck holding it in ojaveda would be even fair as all other tournaments have been held at the arena in the past.
I agre, but the lag generated from dueling in Oja is horrendous.
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Sounds to mde the only place to have a fighting tournament is in the library in the DR, spectators can line the catwalk and losers won't have far to go.
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That would make it way, way too OOC for my liking.
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Perhaps that can be a point for upcoming development...a DR arena. :D
Mordaan looks around
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Sounds to mde the only place to have a fighting tournament is in the library in the DR, spectators can line the catwalk and losers won't have far to go.
No can do... The people in there are dead, they ain't in a cheery tournament mood.
As for the lack of stands, tents and whatnot in the field... we have the bookie, beverage salesman and whatnot to keep the party going.
It is not the job of GM's to keep the event flowing, it is the job of the people, the team and myself. I think we can do it.
As a last note, The tournaments are in as much a testphase and development phase PS is in. I'll try and I'll fail. I'll learn and improve.
However... I will definitally talk with Talad and the GM-team to see if there's an IC way of doing things, but that'll make sure that Proglin's entertainment ends there. It'll become a GM event, thus "destroying" the magic of player events, which I so desperately try to stimulate :) GM events are brilliant and great fun, but they're not player events. Mayhaps i'm nitpicking once more... but hey, that's what I'm here for.
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If it's outside or near Oja I'm out too ...
It's too hard too fight there ... I remember once I attacked 5 seconds after I hit attcak :-X
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I'll try and make it to the Tournament Progin, I wanna film it and let the Whole community see how great it is \\o//
Let's just hope i don't have anything scheduled on that day, nothing thus far but you never know lol
Hope it all goes well my friend.
~~Datruth
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/me smiles and hugs Proglin
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Did I hear someone say "Proglin is hosting another tournament??" \\o//
The tourny's of the past were great fun Proglin, I am very happy to hear you are back into the swing of things.
Congratulations.
I am looking forward to attending the event.
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Anfa! How great to hear you are amongst the living!
I wish to see your face in game more often... you are missed by those who care dear.
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/me seconds Proglin
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* Yawning from the Death Realm *
What ? A tournament ? You mean blood and violence ? aah that's good to hear !
Baston kisses Anfa
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Is that a return for you, Baston?
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I stay aware of what's going on in the PS community, and I promise Proglin to be at his tournament (cause I enjoy those and Proglin is a friend IRL as come for some PS players), but no.
I miss you all (or i will not keep me up to date with the community) but definatly no.
But that's good to see that you didn't forget me ;-)
I wish you all fun ingame, and maybe you will cross the path of a tall Ynnwn named Baston Xantror one day or the other in Yliakum...
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Aww :(
I keep hoping though ;)
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One of these days I'll go to Baston's plac and drag him in here again.
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And yet I still do not know when this tournament is?
I too will keep tabs on this thread so as not to miss it.
Anfa returns Baston's Kiss
It would be wonderful to see you again Darling, the other worlds I explore are lonely without you.
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Unar watches Proglin from the shadows, just waiting for him to pause and post news of the tournament on an alley wall.
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ThomPhoenix: ok I promise that I'll pass ingame one day to say hi ;-)
Proglin: You are more than welcome my friend !! And come more than 2 little days I'll show you Paris by night :D
Anfa: Yeah Dear, I'm still on Skype (althought I wondered why nobody talked to me in a month and noticed that skype just crashed...) and for Lineage, I can't install your server's patch on Linux but it works fine with the original game. I hope to see you soon on skype, or we can pass into Yliakum one day ;-) Big kiss to you baby.
edit: sorry dudes for the ooc, i do not post very often so you can forgive that ;-) ... err, I hope.