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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: YanRK on December 12, 2002, 03:00:43 pm

Title: Mirth
Post by: YanRK on December 12, 2002, 03:00:43 pm

Well... Here\'s an update on the guild, and an explanation of a few things. Unfortunatly, it all started when...
  My comp busted, so alot of site stuff was lost: hence new site
  Then the forum was hacked: Hence new forum. Anyways its all there now so,if you wanta take a look plz let me know what you think ;)

 At least it donsn\'t look like a box of nappies anymore  :P

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Post by: Creathor on January 04, 2003, 05:28:08 am

Mirth Rules :)

Creathor

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Post by: Kada-El on January 04, 2003, 05:44:12 am

Great to see you back in full recruitment mode YanRK :D

Don\'t forget people, that if you want to fight evil at every turn and follow the path of righteousness , then at the moment this is one of the few guilds that can offer you that. Why not strengthen the forces of good by joining up ;)

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Post by: YanRK on January 06, 2003, 10:06:17 pm

lol, thanks Kada. Just what i needed to get me back in the swing after the peace and rest over tyhe holliday season.  :D

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Post by: Vladamir on January 23, 2003, 10:11:06 pm

Scratches his head.

Uh, I\'ve got a question for ya.  If all races are equal why are members of Mirth considered above the rest?

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Post by: Kiern on January 23, 2003, 10:23:30 pm

Maybe they mean all races CAN be equal :P

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Post by: YanRK on January 23, 2003, 10:23:38 pm

\'cuase to be happy is like being a joint race above the rest...
You know Mirth is the key to everythnig; if one is happy one can experience life to a fuller extent this. We believe this is true of all races, however those who can\'t find their mirth can not be considered equal to those who can.
      Understand?

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Post by: Vladamir on January 23, 2003, 10:28:42 pm

Yes I understand what you claim, but I hardly say I accept it.

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Post by: Funhouse on January 23, 2003, 10:50:51 pm

Evil people can be just as happy as good people ya know...happy for completly different reasons, but you get the point  ;)

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Post by: Vladamir on January 23, 2003, 11:20:55 pm

That\'s pretty much what I was thinking Funhouse.  Me not being evil though I did not want to speak on behalf of the faction.  But I suppose to each his own.

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Post by: Creathor on January 24, 2003, 12:11:26 am

Why soo much evil in the world, we need balance. So if u\'re worried about the future of PS just join Mirth :)

Think of Mirth as the PS version of budhism, except here you get to kill things and still have inner peace ;)

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Post by: Vladamir on January 24, 2003, 02:13:17 am

Here Here!  Balance, someone has half a brain it seems.  I merely observe the balance at this point and choose not to interfere.  

There does seem to me a great deal of evil guilds forming and hardly any good.  But oh well, it really doesn\'t matter too much until the game is a bit more developed.

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Post by: Tionusena on January 24, 2003, 11:34:17 pm

that is why the Mirth guild is unique, and that is whats gonna make us a kickass guild

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Post by: Vladamir on January 24, 2003, 11:41:42 pm

Eh, I suppose.  Maybe it\'s just that the majority of people that have come across ps so far all happened to be evil.  I expect it will even out more later on.  But still, in most MMORPGs it seems there are more evil type people than good.

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Post by: Kiern on January 24, 2003, 11:59:35 pm

Actually, there used to be more good/neutral guilds than evil...but they either became inactive or were shut down (such as Abyss Knights and Gion\'s guild)...and not all people in evil guilds are evil (me, for example)

Their probably all about the same with the number of people but there just are more evil guilds at the moment (just look at the amount of people that have signed up for the boards, the evil guilds don\'t even have near that amount added together)

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Post by: Princess Aelya on January 25, 2003, 12:03:41 am

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Originally posted by Vladamir
I expect it will even out more later on.  But still, in most MMORPGs it seems there are more evil type people than good.

I have a theory that might explain this. In real life, people have very little choice. You either be good or you get jailed or killed. whichever comes first. Since games are not real, people will choose a wicked way of living in-game. The reason for this is they crave something new and exciting. They are bored with their \"peaceful\" real life lives, so they live a different life in a game. And when you expirience something new, it is exciting. The human mind is naturally attracted to new and exciting things.

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Post by: kyalin on January 25, 2003, 01:50:04 am

Kiern, gions guild, the dwarven army, disbanded, and arent really there anymore, might go back when the game is actually there, but right now it doesnt exist. As for abyss knights, they arent exactly active, or even around at all anymore...

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Post by: Kiern on January 25, 2003, 02:00:22 am

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but they either became inactive or were shut down

uh...that\'s what I said...

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Post by: kyalin on January 25, 2003, 02:29:20 am

*runs and gets glasses* damn, you win. *runs to the phone and calls for hooked on phonics...* someday ill be able to read...just you wait.

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Post by: Kiern on January 25, 2003, 02:50:40 am

oh, good...I was right...was confused there for a moment :P

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Post by: Kada-El on January 25, 2003, 03:37:40 am

At the moment I think I am bound to be in a neutral position, I support all guilds that join the fray (after all why should I care where the money that comes into my tavern comes from). Sounds like a cop out, but I do feel the need for balance at the moment and I will support balance and Mirth\'s (at the moment) single handed battle for good.

Maybe one day we can form a guild that isn\'t good nor evil but fights for what is right (and likes a drink at the local tavern ;)).

This whole business does intrigue me as to how a trading/cafting/suppliing guild will work.

I have never played UO or EQ etc. and haven\'t experienced how this stuff has been handled so far. If I wanted to start a such a guild and live that way, what are the thoughts about how such a guild would fit in with the PS world? What would be the point of adopting this life?  

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Post by: Creathor on January 25, 2003, 04:09:32 am

I played EQ for a while(untill I got pissed at Sony/Verant, and didn\'t feel like paying monthly) and there were no crafting/trading guilds, the whole point of many guilds was to create stable hunting groups to fight stronger monsters where better organization was needed. Plus most of the people were focused on hunting and not trading or crafting.

But them this is why PS would be different, trading guilds would definitly be interesting.

Anyhow, I think whether the guild is evil, good, or neutral, we\'ll all be equal at the pub. There will be no shortage of customers :)

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Post by: Kiern on January 25, 2003, 04:33:18 am

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Originally posted by Kada-El
This whole business does intrigue me as to how a trading/cafting/suppliing guild will work.

I don\'t think there will be guilds like that, most will go the good/neutral/evil/party guilds like in any other game (sadly)

*cough*bismmerchantsfaction*cough*

..long cough  8o

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Post by: Kiern on January 25, 2003, 04:34:11 am

NOOOOO I posted twice...now im going to be banned for sure!  ;(

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Post by: Kada-El on January 25, 2003, 05:13:02 am

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I don\'t think there will be guilds like that, most will go the good/neutral/evil/party guilds like in any other game (sadly)

I disagree, PS will try to cater for the guilds that want to form to support the gaming environment (please correct me here). I\'m not clear on how this can be implemented, but I believe guilds should also be about the supply of goods and services to the guilds at war.

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Post by: Vladamir on January 25, 2003, 05:49:39 am

Wow this post really took off.  I very much hope that the guild system in PS will not work like it does in EQ, sure organizing your guild to take out a god or some other large beast is fun.  But I also thing it would just get old after a while.

My personally question is what about the guild that just wants to meditate in their temple until they achieve inner enlightenment and gain access to the power of the crystal.  

And then possible destroy, hide, or otherwise keep anyone from every being able to use the power of the crystal whether it be in good or evil intentions.  (I\'m not quite sure about this haven\'t thought that far ahead in my belief system as of yet)

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Post by: Kiern on January 25, 2003, 05:53:45 am

Well, I mean, the only way I see that working is if they review each guild which wants to become official, so they know what each wants or is planning on doing and if they will be able to have them...otherwise you might create a useless guild

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Post by: Vladamir on January 25, 2003, 05:55:54 am

Well then my guild will most likely look like a bunch of ho-bo\'s sitting in a temple in the middle of nowhere. :P

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Post by: Creathor on January 25, 2003, 06:20:19 pm

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Well then my guild will most likely look like a bunch of ho-bo\'s sitting in a temple in the middle of nowhere. :P

I like your idea :))

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Post by: YanRK on January 26, 2003, 08:57:22 pm

WOw! don\'t check the forums for 3 days and mirth\'s got a whopping great post with its title on it ;)

I think that it would be hard to form a guild which didn\'t take a side, like a traiding /mining guild, cause it would get kinda repetative for those members to just do the same thing over and over, there whould have to ultimately be some fighting or someting for them; afterall arnt most games based upon geting stronger in combat... and if the members are all weak(at fighting) how will they defend themselves if a caotic evil guy comes and decides he wants to kill all these friendly helpful traiders?

Anyhoo, i might just be compleatly on the wrong wavelength, but maybe,jus maybe... :D

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Post by: Vladamir on January 26, 2003, 11:01:09 pm

Unfortunately, a tradeskill based guild would probably get very tedious very quickly.  The only way I can see of keeping my future guild from becoming like that would be to transvert it from studying the crystal to protecting it from those who want to misuse the power.

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Post by: TheGeneral on January 27, 2003, 12:28:11 am

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Well, I mean, the only way I see that working is if they review each guild which wants to become official, so they know what each wants or is planning on doing and if they will be able to have them...otherwise you might create a useless guild

We are official, bwhahah, they gave it to us, they can\'t take it away. :D
I really don\'t mind the good-doers that much, they are a great bunch.
And I am personally not all that bent on destruction, it\'s just the easiest and the shortest road to our goal, and it has to be done.
I think anyone should be able to make a quild, some will fail, and the shame of failure will teach one more then anything else.
Good luck with Mirth btw, hope we meet in battle one day, untill then, I thirstily await your blade.

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Post by: YanRK on January 27, 2003, 08:30:13 am

lol, thanks general ;) i\'m sure my blade will tase nice :D

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Post by: Silverblade on January 27, 2003, 02:33:45 pm

I think the best way to go is with a neutral guild.

(Like the Hunters of Hel (http://www.huntersofhel.tk) ;))

That way you can go about your business without having to worry about the good/evil consequences of your actions.

The Hunters of Hel are basically a good guild, but being neutral allows us to do what needs be without worrying about whether or not it is righteous.

Being neutral allows us to stay out of the fight for good/evil and go about our own things - hunting hel (maybe meditating or trading for other guilds).

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Post by: Xolon on January 27, 2003, 03:21:32 pm

Or you just have some dumb goody guy, who joined the wrong guild. Keeping it perfectly balanced around the neutral zone of aligment. :D:D

-Xolon-

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Post by: YanRK on January 27, 2003, 05:10:52 pm

Yay for that googy guy, without him, the neutral guild would surely turn evil, cause its the way of the natural man, to fend for mimself whthout thought for others :P