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Title: IF you came here looking for a furry game...
Post by: sesmi on March 05, 2006, 12:28:59 am
..this is not what you\'re looking for. Lately I\'ve been noticing some misguided people around the net mistaking this for a furry fandom game. it\'s not, and if you think it is you\'re horribly mistaken. This rumor probably started because of people seeing things from our fanart forum, or say enkis, and came to the conclusion that this was indeed a furry fandom game, but it\'s not, and most of the stuff furries like to do will get you a speedy ban here.

Just a warning.
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Post by: miadon on March 05, 2006, 12:48:45 am
pity I wanted to see lots of naked fenkis... well I am a menki after all :p.
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Post by: neko kyouran on March 05, 2006, 04:39:54 am
Rather than be such a downer as some, I\'ll be nice and offer a few suggestions instead.

As sesmi said, this is not a \'furry based\' game.

If you did come here, I encourage you to stay, have a look around, and hopefully enjoy yourself, but please keep in mind, most people here are not of the \'furry fandom\' and do not Role Play thier characters to be of the \'furry type\'.

If you are looking for a \'furry based game\', I suggest you try:

1)Furcadia (http://www.furcadia.com/)
2)Furnation Worlds (http://www.furnation.com/)

and for those of who probably have no idea what I am talking about:

Wikipedia: Furry Fandom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom)

Hope this helps.

Edit: typos
Title: furry fandom
Post by: Gripen on March 05, 2006, 06:13:06 am
I never thought about furry fandom, I guess I have stumbled upon things by far more unusual since discovering the internet.

However, I must say that any furry fandom fan would probably be very thrilled with PlaneShift.  After all the clearest and most complete animagraph offered in the game is the enkis, and the fenkis are even better graphed and more complete than the menkis.  [I am going by what the wikipedia says of furry fandom.]

Still, if there is some kink underculture involved with the furry fandom, then I\'d suppose it isn\'t for children as the wiki article states, and therefore such underculture shouldn\'t be openly rpgd in PlaneShift.  Interesting though, all the girly posters in Hydlaa are fenkis: at the closed dancehall (or is it a theater) in the alleys, and such.

Maybe some furry fandom fan is behind all the extra work put into the enkis.

[I guess sesmi knows more about what furries like to do than me, but this 3D game seems quite advanced to those iso games]
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Post by: Karyuu on March 05, 2006, 06:16:05 am
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Originally posted by Gripen
Interesting though, all the girly posters in Hydlaa are fenkis: at the closed dancehall (or is it a theater) in the alleys, and such.


I was pretty sure those are Diaboli...

*edit*

These?

(http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/2029/poster5km.jpg)

(http://www.planeshift.it/pix/races/diabola.gif)

They were always Diaboli, since MB. I don\'t remember any other posters, really.
Title: diaboli girlies
Post by: Gripen on March 05, 2006, 06:25:15 am
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Originally posted by Gripen
Interesting though, all the girly posters in Hydlaa are fenkis: at the closed dancehall (or is it a theater) in the alleys, and such.


I was pretty sure those are Diaboli...


Come to think of it I remember a diaboli--it would make more sense for the diaboli to be portrayed in them (judging from the charcter description of diaboli).

Go into the back alleys--tho, and check by the tower.  The last ones I\'ve seen were fenkis.  Perhaps they\'ve been changed for the new version though

[Some ___ put in an os file requirement in the new version that closed me out of the game.]

***Ahh, you edited to put in screenshots, a menki gawking at a diaboli girlie poster, and a diaboli female (which does not exist in game) Now I see that they are indeed diaboli and not fenkis--just put it together with the active fenki, and my brain saw fenki.
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Post by: Father Sengus on March 05, 2006, 11:07:09 am
Now question is, who is the Diaboli female? :D Oviously she must be some celebrity (bard, singer, player) but why is she on a poster in Hydlaa? Because she is coming to town, of course...
Somebody needs to RP that girl and hold a concert or something.

*puts on his dancing shoes and goes to stand next to Karyuu*

What?
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Post by: sesmi on March 08, 2006, 01:43:35 am
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Originally posted by Gripen

Still, if there is some kink underculture involved with the furry fandom, then I\'d suppose it isn\'t for children as the wiki article states, and therefore such underculture shouldn\'t be openly rpgd in PlaneShift.


umm.... yes. alot of people in the fandom like to.... .....

......

Can\'t say it on a PG site. If you really want to know a quick google search of \"furry\" will probably answer your question.
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Post by: neko kyouran on March 08, 2006, 11:57:59 am
What people do in thier own personal time does not give you, me, nor anyone else\'s the ability to judge them for it.

Just like every popular topic, there are those that will engage in recreational activities that others will not approve but you know what?  That still doesn\'t give anyone the right to bash/ make fun of/ hate them.  If you don\'t like what they do, then don\'t get involved.  As long as they aren\'t forcing anyone to watch/take part/etc. then let them do what they enjoy doing.  

And for your information, it is not all, it is not many, it just a small group compared to the whole of the \'furry community\'.  The word \'furry\' in itself, is slang for anthropomorph; an animal based character that shares similarities to humans.

Micky Mouse is a furry, Donald Duck is a furry. People who draw/make costums/ look at \'furry\' art, are sometimes classified as being furries. Some people have made \'fursonas\' for them selves; what they would see them selves if they where an anthropomorphic animal.  (and just for stupid trivia knowledge, the most popular animal is the wolf, go figure)  They draw art with thier \'fursona\' or they make costumes and dress up as their fursona at conventions.

Like every genre, there are those that like to take thier fantasies a bit more, adult, than others.  Their are \'furry\' conventions all over the world, where there are some who dress up in a costume.  Same with \'anime conventions\'. Same with \'sci-fi\' conventions.  And there are those that will do acts while in costume that other people do not approve of, or would not engage in themselves.  Do I mind that they engage in these behaviors? Of course not, they keep their activities to themselves and they don\'t force thier actions on anyone.  I say let em have their fun in their private life.  It\'s not for me, but that doesn\'t give me the right to bash them for it.

To put it in perspective, lets take a popular \'geek\' topic: Star Wars.  You know what, theres alot of people that like to play dress up and engage in more adult like RP activities.  It\'s the same difference.

I don\'t have a problem with anyone and what they do in their private life.  I only have a problem with people that bash people becuase they are too close minded to accept other people for what they are.  /end rant.
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Post by: Belark on March 08, 2006, 01:37:04 pm
*standing ovations from all my personas across the mmorphic net!*

Great speech. That\'s no rant. That\'s a way of telling people in a nice way to SHUT UP:D

Yep, if you don\'t want to whine, don\'t get involved[unless it\'s a development issue like \"maps\"*shudders*].

Meet the same resistance in school, yet i do nothing. I just act differently then others. I am myself and some people try to find an explanation and then, in a flash, they simply rest their cases by whispering i\'m homosexual, as that would be any different other from their point of view.

Good Post :)

Oh forgot *[/rant]* :D
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Post by: Shadow Hea on March 09, 2006, 01:59:33 am
Furry people seem like FREAKS to me!

LOL i\'ll say right here and now i\'m bashing on them.. Damn freaks............. tut tut tut.
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Post by: Karyuu on March 09, 2006, 02:08:54 am
If you\'re going to continue such useless idiocy, prepare to go missing for a year again.
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Post by: dragonfire999 on March 09, 2006, 02:11:13 am
Well, if we were looking for furries, then there would not be any elves, or dwarves, or humans. Furry things would generally be ALL furry, such a furcadia as previously pointed out.

Also, we can use this safe word: Yiff.
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Post by: Shadow Hea on March 09, 2006, 02:15:09 am
Nope dragonfire they see that as furry as well.

\"fantasy creatures such as dragons, orcs, and elves should also be considered furry\"

That is from tbvp\'s link.


And Karyuu when did i post 2 times in a row or even 3 times in a row?
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Post by: Karyuu on March 09, 2006, 02:19:20 am
Ack ack, mistake making, Karyuu messed up :/ Sorry! Won\'t happen again.

(http://imagecloset.com/8/03280708-defeat-flag.gif)
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Post by: Shadow Hea on March 09, 2006, 02:22:38 am
You just \"merged\" mine and 2 other people posts into mine.

Oh well.....
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Post by: Karyuu on March 09, 2006, 02:28:15 am
o.O I clearly remember seeing your sig three times. Evidently I was wrong, so I\'m terribly sorry to both parties.... Ack.
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Post by: sesmi on March 09, 2006, 02:41:12 am
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Originally posted by Karyuu
First, stop double/triple posting. Second, if you\'re going to continue such useless idiocy, prepare to go missing for a year again.
i\'m sorry, why did you merge my post into his?

Please don\'t become corrupt and abuse your powers, i don\'t want to see someone as cool as you go bad  :(
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Post by: Karyuu on March 09, 2006, 02:43:19 am
As I said, it was a mistake on my part - and I\'m really sorry about it :{ There\'s no reason to both send me a PM and make a post, though. PM me back so we can take care of it.
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Post by: sesmi on March 09, 2006, 02:47:10 am
reposting what was merged:

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Originally posted by tbvp
What people do in thier own personal time does not give you, me, nor anyone else\'s the ability to judge them for it.

Just like every popular topic, there are those that will engage in recreational activities that others will not approve but you know what?  That still doesn\'t give anyone the right to bash/ make fun of/ hate them.  If you don\'t like what they do, then don\'t get involved.  As long as they aren\'t forcing anyone to watch/take part/etc. then let them do what they enjoy doing.  


wha? what gave you the idea I bash/ make fun of/ hate them? I was in no way doing so.

As much as you\'d like to tell me that the sexual stuff is a minority of the furry community, I\'m not buying it. the first image on a Google search for \"furry\" is sexual. most online furry communities are 18+ and quite a lot of the furry art I\'ve seen is porn or sex related.
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Post by: defender43 on March 09, 2006, 04:34:52 am
Yes. There are the geeks who spend most of their time drooling at anime catgirls, and then there are the rest of them. There are also a LARGE group of people who like Star Fox, and not just because of Krystal.
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Post by: neko kyouran on March 09, 2006, 04:56:57 am
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Originally posted by sesmi

As much as you\'d like to tell me that the sexual stuff is a minority of the furry community, I\'m not buying it. the first image on a Google search for \"furry\" is sexual. most online furry communities are 18+ and quite a lot of the furry art I\'ve seen is porn or sex related.


No sir (mam?), never did I direct anything towards you personally.  I was, however, basing it towards the general tone you were implying.

As to the search, I just type in \"furry\" into google.  Here ist what google doth return as the top 3:

1)http://www.vexen.co.uk/human/furry.html  An information site, as the one on Wiki, only much more in depth.  Perhaps you may like to give it a read, maybe learn something.

2)http://www.superfurry.com/  Aparently, It\'s some kind of band.  Reminds me of the clasic rock from the 70s. (Based soley on what is currently playing by doing a quick click to the archives)

3)http://www.tigerden.com/infopage/furry/  Another Info site.  

I\'m not quite sure what you\'re saying.

EDIT:   Oh, nevermind, you used the images search I see. Yep, theres quite a bit.

I see where you are comming from, but let me propose something.  Generally speaking, it\'s always the most \'out there\', most \'attention grabbing\' sub groups that always get the most attention.  Example, Car sales.  An ad for a car normlly has a \'hot woman in very little clothing ontop of the hood of the car\'  Why? becuase sex sells.  It gets your attention.  The same hold true no matter what we talk about.  

It may appear at first that everyone who draws \'furry styled art\' use adult themes.  But, just becuase something gets the most attention does not mean it is the majority.  Another case in point:  The FCC (I live in USA) about a year back put in strict in new regulation about what can, and cannot be said on the public radio.  Now, leaving out all debates of whether they were right or not, they based this decision on the 12 angry letters they recieved from people who didn\'t wish to hear more adult rated shows (Howerd Stern, and others) on the radio.  Howard Stern has million of listeners, but becuase of 12 people, his show was drastically cut back.  I\'m not making the point whether it was right ornot, no, my point is that those that speak the loudest, make the most noise, get most of the attention.

Lets takethis idea and apply it to what you say, the art.  What has more shock value: pr0n or lovey dubbey cute little kittens playing in a field while my little ponies prance around in the background?  

You also have to take account what the internet is.  80% (made up number but it is quite high) of everything on the WWW is adult themed related.  Theres no denying that.  I\'m sure everyone has done a searh sometime and got back results they would have never thought of before.  Google is a search engine, it bases it\'s search findings, by popularity (with other factors of course).  It\'s not surprising to find pr0n as the number 1.  This does not proove that the majority of \'furry\' is porn though.  A better idea is given by doing a search for web pages, 4 pages into the search results, I still didn\'t come across any thing \'adult themed\'.

Last case in point before this turns ranty again.  

http://us.vclart.net/vcl/  This link was on page 2 of the google results btw.

I did a quick search, by selecting the recent artwork option:
http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/New/

It\'s plain to see that the majority of images made, are not adult themed.  People draw anthropomorphic art, for various reasons.  I can\'t even draw a stick figure right so how they do what they can do is beyond me.  I was told by a close friend once why she uses animals in her artwork.  It is becuase she can more easily show emotion in her characters, and the on looker will understand the emotions she is trying to show much easier as well.

With that, an example that I came across when I quickly browsed over the VCL page:

http://us-p.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Mocha-Mephooki/Daily-Affirmation.jpg

See what I mean?
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Post by: zorbels on March 09, 2006, 05:20:20 pm
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Originally posted by Shadow Hea
Furry people seem like FREAKS to me!

LOL i\'ll say right here and now i\'m bashing on them.. Damn freaks............. tut tut tut.


Hmmm.... Well they say that people fear what they don\'t know. Here in this statment is a really good example of fear. So now that we know Shadow doesn\'t have an open mind and can be childish, on to the next.....

I have checked out some of these sites and I see not only good artist and awesome art but people who enjoy the idea of animal and human mixes. There isn\'t anything wrong with that. As for sex and the word furry together, isn\'t everything like that now days?

All in all don\'t judge a book by it\'s cover. :/ You might be surprized at what the book has to offer.
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Post by: sesmi on March 10, 2006, 01:39:12 am
i\'m not saying all furries. i myself kinda like furries  :P

I was aiming mainly at people who go to online games to talk about furries, furry role-play, talk about good websites ect.
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Post by: Shadow Hea on March 10, 2006, 03:41:20 pm
zorbels when I said furry people are freaks I meant like ones that like the sex part about furry.

Because really... If you find animals to be sexy then sorry, but your a FREAK!    

And how don\'t I have an open mind and how am I being childish? I mean really the ones that like the sex side ARE FREAKS. There is nothing to be open minded about.
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Post by: zorbels on March 10, 2006, 05:54:25 pm
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zorbels when I said furry people are freaks I meant like ones that like the sex part about furry.


That\'s nice but you never even came close to explaining that. How in the hell was I supposed to know that is what you meant by your last statement.  Instead you took pride in bashing and calling names. Hence my response..... deal with it. :/