PlaneShift
Fan Area => Fan Art => Topic started by: Mentak on March 06, 2006, 05:21:05 am
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Here it is folks. I\'m happy to be a part of this community. Maybe after some time, I could be a part of the design team :).
Dagger: It has no UV, just materials. It took me like 7 minutes to make. Not that fancy, but great for any 3D game. Dont mind the shadows, they are just for looks :o). Hope you like it.
(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/2281/dagger1copy9gr.jpg)
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Shiny! :) Good basic designs, but I\'d love to leave off some of that glean and actually see the steel, y\'know? ;)
Can\'t wait to see more from you, regardless.
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Not bad, you seem to have the basics down. Try getting lots of reference for whatever you make next (google image search helps here) and see if you can put more detail into it (but without sacrificing too many tri\'s). Keep up the good work.
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I dont really use google alot. I like to make models from images made by me. Most of the detail comes from the uv textures. Thanks for the C&C.
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There\'s nothing wrong with using references :) The best most proffesional artists use them, and beginners/intermediates more so.
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I don\'t really care where you get the reference, but you need to start using it. Compare your model to something like this (http://www.asmilan.org/eschool/middle_ages/knightsrc/medieval%20dagger.jpg) . They don\'t look very similar. There\'s lots you could do to the basic shape of your knife to make it more realistic without sacrificing any polys at all. It\'s fine to model concepts that are your own, but if those concepts aren\'t based off of lots of solid reference, 9 times out of 10 the finished product will lack detail. You\'re right that there is a lot that can, and should be, put into the texture, but having a detailed model is just as important.
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Arcane. It\'s called \'creative license\'. Ever heard of it? Shatter somebody\'s hopes like a hammer on glass. :(
My opinion is: Looks good keep it up.
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Creative license, and choosing to not use reference are two very different things. I\'m not trying to be mean, but when someone tells me they\'re going to choose to not use reference I\'m going to let them know just how bad an idea that is.
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Arcane is not saying to copy that item in the picture poly-per-poly, Hes just saying use it to get an idea of scales, proportions, functionability, and realism. When you\'ve looked at enough references, then you can get an idea how to create something wonderful. And when you talk about creative liscence, where was it used in this model? Theres nothing interesting or original about it, its bland and plain. Sure its a good model, but when he gets his personal flare into it, which comes from studying erferences and then coming up with ones own ideas, it will start to look more impressive.
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Well, yeah, it is kind of dull. I just made it while i was in a hurry. I can add a few touch ups if you like.
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I didnt meen to sound harsh but its the way I felt about it. And fixing it is up to you. I would like to see some interesting curves or shapes of the hilt or blade. Like Arcane said use some references for ideas. There are some weapons drawn all over these morums including my armor thread that you could check out, or look on the web under google images, for daggers. I think you need to give it some life.
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Oh man. I hate it when this happens. I remodeled the dagger and made it better looking. Then I spent an hour with the UV. Now When I tried importing the uv. The program crashed on me. Worst of all, I forgot to save :,(. I guess I\'ll move on and make a sword.
Thats time well spent. Here it the uv if anyone wants to see it. http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/4143/daggeruv7hx.jpg
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Ok, I made a sword, and I added much more detail to it than the dagger. Enjoy:
(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4606/sword0sy.th.jpg) (http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sword0sy.jpg)
(http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3460/sword4ju.jpg)
Seeing Elentor\'s work, makes me feel like a grade A noob. :,(
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Nice improvement.
But it looks like a toy sword.
I suggest you looking for references. For now, keep in mind even for a short sword the blade ought to be a little longer.
When using dull materials, try to choose colors that represent the final idea you\'re pursuing, or adding generic textures.
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Well, in your thread I asked where you get your textures from. Mine look like crap. Could you tell me where you get your textures (If you do) and what UV Mapper you use?
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Textures can be taken from anything.
Anything that resemble something dirty can be everything, I\'m serious.
Usually on my drawings there are only two or three textures changed to look like they are another 10.
Right now I take my pics with my cam. There are six things that, if you have pics of them, you can do virtually anything:
Metal Bars
Wood Tables
Tree Woods
Dirty grounds
Walls
Grass
For non-commercial purposes, you can use the google images search function.
Or you can paint them from the zero, in photoshop... thats a good way to improve your 2d skills which you will eventually need to fine-touch your pics.
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Very nice, you have some talent, but you could do the same with fewer poly\'s, and a texture wouldn\'t hurt.
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If only i had a drawing pad. Then I can do God knows what. So if you get textures from (where-ever) how do you add it into the UV?
I have Photoshop 7.0
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You open the blank UV in photoshop, then you just take what ever the texture is and use it as an overlay. I then create a new layer and switch my brush mode to overlay and low the opacity and then add shadows and highlights. With overlays you can easily change the color of the metal by taking the color you want, lets use gold as an example and then simply brushing over the metal. This lets the metal show through while changing its tint. Here is the the third texture I ever made as well as the model it went on and yes it was done with a mouse
(http://www.geocities.com/lothgarv/shortsword.jpg)
(http://www.geocities.com/lothgarv/short_sword.jpg)
Actually, I have done quite a few textures with a mouse, and most of them have turned out pretty good, so dont go throwing away your confidence because of that. Besides, even with a drawing tablet, those take hours of practice to get used to. So seriously jsut try a UV and take your time. You seem to like to rush through things as youve completed three models today.
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wow that looks good. I\'ll keep it in mind. Maybe ill recreate the texture for my sword. But that wont be until tomorrow. Good night.