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Gameplay => In-Game Roleplay Events => Topic started by: Under the moon on March 12, 2006, 07:13:41 am

Title: Krook's Proclamation on the 'Octarch'.
Post by: Under the moon on March 12, 2006, 07:13:41 am
A weary old Dwarf hobbles his way to the Board of Public Announcements, his steps that of a man who should have had the use of a cane many years past. Any other man likely would have given into that need.  But Krook Betifale was not any other man. Any who know him would have to say that it was his pride alone that kept him standing upright. Though some snickered that the ground itself did not wish to have his cantankerous grumbling any closer than it had to be, regretting even the touch of his calloused feet. Either way, his back refused to be bent by more age than any should be allowed in one lifetime. It was often whispered where none thought that he could hear, that even Death would not put its cold fingers one his old bones. If that be the case, Death had good reason.

?Blast ye fer fools and none such. I tole em the Fenki ain?t gunna bring nothing but ruin at the realm,? Krook grumbles vehemently to himself.

A nearby Lemor just passing into manhood jumps at the words, likely thinking Krook addressed him. He quickly moves away, looking over his shoulder the entire way. That was another common reaction of people about the Dwarf. The following is also an all too common reaction, if you ask anyone who has spent more that three minutes in his presence.

Krook spits.

?Begone with ya then, ya tefpile. I ain?t got no time at waste on fool greenskins. Bad enough I gotta set the record straight on a *spits* Fenki.? The last word is filled with more that a little disgust.

Krook continues grumbling as he pulls out a long scroll from under his beard. Not even bothering to look for a clear space to post it, he positions it dead center of the gold-framed board. Now, this may not have been taken as an untoward action, if not for the fact that it covered no less than three proclamations by some of the larger guilds, and one plea asking for help in finding some missing orphans.

?Thare. Ye fools ken read this and choke on it, but I ain?t gunna stand for no one?s sufferin based on ignorance. If ye wanna make her suffer, at least ye be informed.?

Krook spits once more, this time on a foul worded request for something to be done about the usurper residing in the temple. He then turns and hobbles away, carried by pride and the ground?s refusal to have the nasty little man one hairs width closer.

This is what he wrote in the neat hand of an expert scribe:

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This is a proclamation in light of the recent events surrounding  one Xillix, a Enkiduki female of the Scions of Wyldewood guild and association.

There has been many a rumor and supposing going about because of these events. Mainly, the fool lass?s claim to the seat of Octarch. First, before I go on, know that I do not support her foolhard claims in any way. I also do not support the fools against her. I merely support the truth.

The truth comes in two forms:

First. There is an Octarch of the First Level, and it is not Xillix. As you all know, there was a great amount of trouble in the rebellion twenty years past. No less than three Octarchs, and more Vigesimi than any wish to count, died or vanished under assassin?s hands. Three years passed before the Rebellion was put down, though many had feared it had gathered more strength than the corrupted Government could face. If not for many of the Great Guilds coming to the aid of the Government, you would now be kneeling to a King, rather than bowing to an Octarch.

On the fourth year, the External Circle replenished itself from the ranks of the Great Guilds, and the new Octarchs where chosen. This includes the current Octarch who rules to this day. Any fool knows this. However, as in all times of strife, there are secrets best left buried. This brings up the next point.

Second. Xillix?s claim the Chair, though misguided in the extreme, is founded on the bedrock of truth. Some of which she remembers only borders the truth. But any mage can tell you that mind altering Gyphs tend to have that effect on the mind.

To make myself clear, Xillx IS ALSO THE OCTARCH. I write that so as even the most blinded of you fools may read it. Now, before you stomp off in the ignorant huff I know you wish to, read the following truth.

In the days of the Rebellion, your Octarch was assassinated in the most brutal manner, along with half of her Vigesimi. In fact, many people died that year as the followers of the Black Flame rose up. I know many of you reading this will still feel the pang of losing your folks to this savage attack. Blood ran in all of the lands. Only fifteen of the twenty Vigesimi remained to this Level, as it is where the Rebellion struck first and hardest. Those fifteen lived in real fear for their lives, proven by the deaths of five more of their rank over the next year. Fear does odd things to the mind. Not a soul would stand forth to the Chair for that fear. Then two more Octarchs died in quick succession. This lead the remaining Vigesimi to desperation. During that first year, they did elect a new Octarch, though it was done in secret. So secret, only one more than half of the fifteen Vigesimi knew of it. Just enough to vote in a new Octarch. Sadly, this part of Xillix?s tale is true. It was she who found herself placed on the Chair of the First Level, not two hours from her mother?s womb.

You may ask what insanity drove them to do this thing, and I will tell you again that fear does odd things to the mind. Fear told them that if they had an Octarch, any Octarch, the Government could not fail. Who better to start anew than an infant. She was to be trained from birth as the perfect leader, so as to prevent another uprising. She was hidden from all the realm to keep her, and them, safe. It did keep her safe, but not the Vigesimi, as five of the eight perished. It is my mind that other Vigesimi divined the plan and had them killed, but there is no proof to the matter. The final three resigned their titles and took the girl deep into the wild. I know not what happened to her after that. Not until she came back into her memories. Little did the fools know they were only preparing for this day. All of their fear plans fell to naught. A new and very competent Octarch was elected, bringing peace to all of the Levels, not just this one.

That brings us to this date. Xillix has gained her memories back, befuddled as they may be, and thinks that she must take the Chair. It is not her own power that drives her, but the power of the Glyphs that were used to erase her memories and compel her into this position. For the last three of the Vigesimi did not even trust her to take on her duties. Breaking all laws, legal and ethical, they brought the Compulsion Glyph from the Great Vault and used it not hours after the deluded Fenki was born. This sickens even I. But the fact is, it has happened. Shady as it was, the proper number of Vigesimi elected an Octarch. And to my great distaste, Xillix is she.

If the Octarchs and their Vigesimi were not in the Meeting of Levels as we speak, I am sure our own Octarch would have acted swiftly but kindly to resolve this situation. But that is not possible, as he will be gone for weeks yet. It is for the people to find the solution.

Use your heads, you fools, not your blades. How do you think your real leader will react to the slobbering mob that you are? This can be resolved. After posting this note, I shall be going straight to Xillix to tell the trull straight.

And one more thing, if you tefpiles still doubt me. I am Kruthmand Bentifale, High Scribe to the last Octarch and her Vigesimi, and Lower Scribe to Vigesimi of other Levels for longer then most of you have lived. I was present at the taking of the child, though I knew not her name at the time. I saw the ring she wears placed on her tiny finger. I scribed it all. Doubt me if you will, but know that you are ignorant fools doing so.

May your gods be with you, because I am not.
~?Krook? Benifale

*edit*[[ Anyone who makes out of character posts in this thread is in severe risk of having their \'deleted post\' count added to. If you are posting something that is neither in-game, nor in-character, it does not belong here. If you wish to have your points made, do so in a thread of your own making. Whatever you may think, the good folks involved in this \'event\' are going to continue it to the end.]]
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Post by: Ganinos on March 12, 2006, 10:45:14 am
This is an excellently written story.  I commend the author. But I have a question.  I can\'t seem to find any reference to the happenings mentioned in the story 20 yrs ago in the offical history on PS as stated in the Players Guide.  No mention 20 yrs ago any of the Octarchs were killed.  The only referense I find of any Octarch being killed is the following from section 3.5 Government of the Players Guide:

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One of the most famous cases is the one of Fertedian Dalko, Octarch of the 4th level, that was tied to a hypnotized Megara and sent straight towards the Crystal.


Where can one find this amazing story in the offical history of Planshift?  Or is this a well written story by a player only?  

If this is the offical history of our world, with Xillix just added into it, where can I find it?

Gan, \"Long Beard\"
Leader White Dragon Clan
Dragon High Master in the Dragon Council
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Post by: neko kyouran on March 12, 2006, 10:53:48 am
I must agree with the long bearded one.  If this is not from the official PS settings, although very well written, does not help.  It really doesn\'t solve anything, except now, the RP has had some history added to it as backstory.  Now, if a dev from the settings department comes in and says, \"yes this stuff happened\", well that be a differnt case I guess.  I guess I ask for proof.
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Post by: zanzibar on March 12, 2006, 11:41:45 am
I thought racism doesn\'t exist in PS society?  Calling a lemur a greenskin... a dwarf who has loathing for all enkis....



As well as it\'s written, I can\'t help but feel that you\'ve taken a single mistake made by a single player and you\'ve turned it into a full fledged mess.  You\'re suggesting a lot of significant historical events to be added into the PS history books... but that\'s up to the devs to do.  Not me, not you.


I know you\'ve been around longer than me.  You\'re one of the few left over from the MB crowd, and perhaps AB as well -- I don\'t keep close enough track of these things.  But that doesn\'t give you the right to do this.
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Post by: Under the moon on March 12, 2006, 12:02:45 pm
[What I write -has- happened, whether the Devs approve of it of not. Start thinking for yourselves, folks. You can not roleplay and entire world on two vague paragraphs. Is it the \'official\' story? No, for there -is- no official story. This is what we make of it, no more, no less. Each of you have created your own backstory, most conflicting with each other. Do you go to the Devs with every detail of your stories. In fact, how do you know that your guild and council do not clash with some unforeseen subparagraph of an as-of-yet unwriten history? The truth is, -anything- you roleplay that you can not find directly in the Setting could be considered as a conflict, merely based on the fact that you do not know the truth.

Also, many guilds I have seen claim to have risen from a great conflict. The Dragon Council notwithstanding. I see nowhere in the Settings that can lay these claims to rest. I have read and reread the Setting more times then I can remember in the past year, and -know- what it says. I also know what it -does not- say. You may think that I have created this history -just- for Xillix. You would be wrong. I have take much of -your- stories and kept them in mind to guide my pen.

I chose to become involved with this to end the bickering and turn this into a fun and heartfelt roleplay. Any who wish to play along with this are welcome to. Any who do not may stand aside and grumble to themselves while we have the fun.

Whatever the settings say, the history -we- choose to follow becomes the truth. In a world of imagination, the proof you need is not in the rulebook, it is in you own mind.

For now, this -is- our truth. Take it or leave it.]
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Post by: zanzibar on March 12, 2006, 12:14:12 pm
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Originally posted by Under the moon
What I write -has- happened, whether the Devs approve of it of not. Start thinking for yourselves, folks.



\'Start thinking for yourselves and agree with what I tell you\'?

Ok, so this old guy just puts up the poster because it\'s what he thinks really happend, or because it\'s what he wants us to believe, but we don\'t know if it\'s true or not?  But we do know what the truth is... you wrote this story with the intent to make legitimate Xillix\'s background story.

These aren\'t small details.  This isn\'t Mitaki\'s remote village, or the DC\'s great battle from a long time ago which may or may not simply be a legend.  You\'re trying to add to the history of PS in a rather significant way.

I strongly feel that you\'ve taken a level of liberty that is not yours to take.  I\'m curious as to how the devs will respond.


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For now, this -is- our truth. Take it or leave it.


I understand that you\'re appealing to suspended disbelief on a different level.  Since this is fantasy writing within a fantasy game, I\'m not quite sure how to word exactly what kind of suspended disbelief this is since you\'re already supposed to have suspended disbelief about the game itself.  So this is suspended disbelief about a fantastical piece of history about a fantasy world which we\'re experience through a lens of suspended disbelief anyway.

But anyway, I don\'t think it\'s right for you to speak on behalf of everyone else by calling it \"our truth\".  A number of people have already taken issue with it.
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Post by: neko kyouran on March 12, 2006, 12:14:48 pm
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Originally posted by Under the moon
All that stuff I said above.


Yes, that I agree with, but may I pose a question:  What happens when the official background is expanded into more detail?  Are you going to abruptly just drop eveything you have RPed out?  You will have to I think.  It would be odd, that if an Octarch or whatever (npc or player decided by whatever means, doesn\'t matter) is made.  Say you are still Rping something out with X and group, then there is two stories contradicting each other.  Say many groups did this.  WE\'d have a mass confusion wouldn\'t we?  That is why there is an official Backstory from the official dev team right?  To not have mass contradiction. I\'m not saying I\'m not in support of you all having your fun.  I\'m just looking at the future here.  If you all can just drop whatever you RP at the a moments notice say more official settings information is made, hey, have fun with your RP.  Also, I guess, after more knowledge is known, you could come up with someway to explain it all, but it\'d be a bit tricky IMO, but het, have at it I say.  I\'m here for the testing anyway, don\'t let me stop yeah.
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Post by: Under the moon on March 12, 2006, 12:18:10 pm
[Sorry, but to that I must respond. They are pressuring me to apply.]
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Post by: zanzibar on March 12, 2006, 12:20:24 pm
tbvp, I don\'t think the answer here is for the dev team to map everything out and to write up all parts of the history and setting.

I think the answer here can be summed up by a single word:  Courtesy.

We have to show the devs the courtesy of not writing out things which are in their territory.
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Post by: neko kyouran on March 12, 2006, 12:23:55 pm
True.

I\'m not asking that they do. I\'m just saying that what happens when they will?  I seriously doubt that what has been written about the past of PS is all that will be written by them.  I\'m simply asking, what happens when this does come to happen? Maybe not tomorrow, not next week, but sometime down the road, I\'m sure more will be added.

EDITATION:  Since you decided to edit your original thread after many posts had been made:

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*edit*[[ Anyone who makes out of character posts in this thread is in severe risk of having their \'deleted post\' count added to. If you are posting something that is neither in-game, nor in-character, it does not belong here. If you wish to have your points made, do so in a thread of your own making. Whatever you may think, the good folks involved in this \'event\' are going to continue it to the end.]]


Sorry, [] are not needed here as acording to the rules of this forum.  See the sticky abouve rule number 2:

\"2. Keep your posts in the right threads. Do not post out-of-character posts in in-character threads (except in small bracketed [] footnotes). Do not post in-character posts in out-of-character threads (including threads marked \"[Event]\" ). All in-character threads should be marked \"[RP]\" at the beginning, i.e. \"[RP]The Evil Sorcerer.\" \"

As you can see, there is no [RP] at the begining of your title, thus the [] rule does not apply since this is not consider IC.  

I\'ll be more than happy to go back and add some []\'s if you like?
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Post by: Ganinos on March 12, 2006, 05:08:44 pm
Gan, \"Long Beard\"

Gan listens intently to the story just told.
 \"May I speak\", Gan says.

 Amani steps forward, \"Why should we let you speak Dwarf?  You did your best to destroy our lady Xillix the other day in the temple.\"

Gan responds:  \"Because I am a citizen of this land & you are gathered in a public place.  Are you going to try to prohibit my right to speak before our fellow citizens?\"

With Gans words ringing in her ears, Amani backs off.  She spits, \"very well then speak if you must.\"

Gan, looks around at the gathering throng.  \"My friends, my fellow citizens, vistors to our fair city.  I, Gan, \"Long Beard\" stand before you today not as a representative of the Dragon Council, not as a representative of the SCoY, but as an ordinary citizen.\"

\"It is obvious to me that the lady Xillix here has lost touch with reality & is not well.  She claims to have awoken from a coma & claims to remember now that she was elected our Octarch some 20 yrs ago.  We all know this never happened.  We know who the Octarch was then, & we know who the Octarch is now.\"

Some in the crowd shout \"lies, we just heard the truth\".

Gan shouts over the voices, \"Please let me finish, I have more to say\"

The crowd begins to quite down.

Gan continues: \"I know that these events as described didn\'t happen.  20 yrs in the life of a Dwarf is not much time at all.  I was there 20 yrs ago, so I know.\"

Gan clears his throat:  \"As I said, the Lady must be ill, these are false memories, not true ones.  I, at 1st, though that those around her were attempting a take over of our government by trying to place the Lady Xillix in that seat of power\"

Gan Continues:  \"I now suspect they were just going along with the Lady\'s claims, & had no real desires to actually place her on that seat of power\"

Gan, looks towards those who support Xillix:  \"Maybe they had hoped that this false memory would go away in a short time.\"

Gan turns back to the crowd:  \"So instead of seeking help for her from the healers & priests they went along with this false memory.  They even went so far as to create this false history that you have heard here today.\"

Gan looks back towards those that support the Lady Xillix:  \"That was a mistake in my humble opinion.  For look at the uproar it has caused.\"

Gan spins back towards the crowd:  \"For charges of treason & revolution have been leveled by both sides.  This has the real potential to lead us into a civil war\"

Gan steps toward the lady Xillix:  \"M\'Lady you are not well.  I said that to you in the temple the other day.  You need help M\'Lady.  Your friends here have mistakenly gone along with what you believe to be true.  But it is not the truth M\'Lady.  Sadly it is not the truth.\"

Gan continues: \"I am asking you to seek help from the healers & priests.  I am sure they will be able to help you.  Please M\'Lady, please, for the sake on all our citizens seek the help you need\"

Gan looks around again:  \"I only have one further thing to add.  I stand in support of our real Octarch & our real government\".

Gan, without looking back slowly walks away.

[That is my version of events & has been all along my IC opposition to this.  From the beginning I stated she was Ill & needed help.  I stated this in both meetings with the Dragon Council & meetings with the SCoY prior to meeting with the Lady Xillix in the temple.  And, stated so in that meeting too.  My story, at least in my opinion, is more valid than the one that starts this thread.  For the story that starts this thread impacts every single character in PS & not just a small group of people RPing a story.]
Title: Anouncement
Post by: Sarrow on March 12, 2006, 07:51:02 pm
*Sarrow walks into the debate stands at an attention with a crisp salute*

\"By orders of the lady herself I am here to dispatch a message for all who support her and those who .. do not\"


*Sarrow unfolds the small parchment and squints at the small hand writing:

\"A meeting for the statement of my postion. A meeting to decide about the question at hand will be held today, at the fronts steps leading to the Laanx temple within Three hours [22:00GMT]. All of you are to meet at the stairs and ONLY at the stairs infront of the temple\"

*Sarrow looks around defiately and gives a signal to himself and leaves the room with the note*
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Post by: Cha0s on March 13, 2006, 02:34:57 am
While some of the posts in this thread are very nice and quite in-character, others are not. I am not going to bother to go through all of the posts in this thread that don\'t fit, because sadly, those posts that don\'t fit outnumber those that do. I have neither the time nor inclination to remove these posts. Those people that posted good roleplay posts based on in-game experiences, feel free to post again in a new thread (I suggest letting Moon be the one to start things off again, and Moon, I suggest using the [RP] tag mentioned in the sticky). Those that did not post IC posts as requested by the author, be warned: if I see further blatant out-of-character posts in a thread clearly intended for roleplay, you won\'t be happy with the results (your deleted post count will rise and you\'ll get a bit closer to losing access to In-Game Roleplay altogether).

As for the topic of whether or not this whole roleplay is valid or not, I have my opinion, but that doesn\'t matter right now. This has come to a roleplayed conclusion (which you can feel free to recount in the next rendition of this thread) and that is that. Further out-of-character arguing about this issue in an in-character thread will only make me very angry and that is not a good thing. That said, good roleplayers, carry on. iLock.

P.S. Just because a thread doesn\'t have \"[RP]\" doesn\'t mean it\'s OOC. If it\'s clearly an in-character thread, even if it doesn\'t have the \"[RP]\" tag, treat it as such.