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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Golarim on April 06, 2006, 12:53:55 am
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Purpose: To provide the large guilds and organizations of Yliakum with raw materials and custom crafted weapons and armor.
Ranks:
1.Apprentice- These members need to pick a profession and learn the basics in that skill.
2.Artisan- These members are skilled in making jewelry, sword hilts and other accessories. A member of this rank needs to make the company 5000 tria weekly
3.Smith- These members are skilled in making weapons and armor from raw materials. A member of this rank needs to make the company 5000 tria weekly.
4.Miner- These are the gatherers of the company. The main income lies in their hands. Members of this rank need to make the guild 6000 tria weekly.
5.Master Artisan- These are expert jewlry and accessory crafters who have made great profit to the company. They must make 12,000 tria weekly, and supervise all artisans below them. 9can also make deals and deliveries.)
6.Master Smith- These are expert armor and weapon smiths who have made great profit to the company. They must make 15,000 tria weekly. They supervise anyone under them who is also a smith. (Can make deals and deliveries)
7.Master Miner- These are expert miners who have made great profit to the company. They must make 17,000 tria weekly and supervise all other miners bellow them.(can make deals and deliveries)
8. Contractor- These members do very little physical work. their job consists of finding new orders, overseeing the work, and planning deliveries/payment.
9.GrandMaster- The GrandMaster is the essential merchant of the company who?s job is to keep the companies profits high and create trade networks through alliances.
Rules:
1. Never make large business deals concerning the company without consulting the grandmaster and/or a master of any of the three crafts.
2. Stay in character as often as possibe.
3. Please don\'t be rude to anyone
4. Follow all PS rules and any rules of conduct made by the community.
5. Work work work! >.<
6. have fun \\o/
Goals: To provide the Yliakum communities with an abundant supply of raw materials and other items and create strong trade networks, boosting the communities economy.
Payment: payment will be simple. All things mined/smithed/crafted during a certain week are given to the GrandMaster and he/she will sell them at appropriate prices. The income of this will be divided between however many workers, as long as the individual workers all made their ranks minimum amount of tria. If they did not they will be suspended from the weeks pay. The suspended pay will go to the Hydlaa Mining Company funds.
Trade: the trading will be simple. Our goods and materials are open to all who are willing to pay the tria. Our larger customers (guilds organizations etc.) will be allied with us, creating cemented trade networks that will keep the economy healthy. These customers also get lower prices if they buy in bulk.
History: The Hydlaa Mining Company was first thought up by a young dwarf named Golarim during a long period in the dungeons mining diamonds. It was formed soon after and has begun to prosper since.
Founders: Golarim - Ideas, recruitment, advertising etc.
Proglin- Initial funds for the company
(Now there\'s one problem with History..some of our supporters left last second and we can\'t create the guild yet, so if
a) you are a miner, smithy, or any craftsperson
b) have basic knowledge of the craft,
c) know how to RP
and
d) are active
Please give me a PM!
www.freewebs.com/hydlaaminingcompany (http://www.freewebs.com/hydlaaminingcompany) [/b]
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All I can say is, about time :)
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Couldn\'t have said it better karyuu :D
I can see dwarves flocking to you guys. I look forward to meeting you in-game.
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Wow, a guild that is actually... a guild!
Best of luck to you guys :D
You might want to re-think the basics behind the economic rules of progression though. First, you might find it hard to measure things accurately until costs for crafted items have settled. Second, intra-guild trade will possibly be a factor (i.e. one guy makes iron bars and gives them to someone else who makes sword hilts etc.) Third, having *all* sales go through one person might be a bit of a bottleneck. I\'d at least designate a couple people responsible for taking orders and making deliveries.
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Oh a real guild
Now i wait for a guild of hunters, guild of gladiators, a guild of priests ...
Good luck to you
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dfryer: yeah, I was thinking about making the \"masters\" be able to trade large quantities of items as well. The intra-guild trading thing will take thinking though.
Shorty/karyuu: Yeah, tell me about it.
And yes, the first real guild if we look at the technical definition. Except one problem, it isn\'t made yet :P it seems a Kran anmed Grubba is the only one patient enough to remain a follower. So if you\'re interested, PM me! Or if you want to just have an alt join so the guild can get on its feet..that works too.
I\'ll be ingame in two hours from the time I made this post. About 8:00 PST.
Website!
http://www.freewebs.com/hydlaaminingcompany
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A great idea, and one i will support to my fullest capabilities. Hopefully, we, and many other guilds, will work out a good trading policy. I look forward to seeing this idea grow in popularity..
Stay Safe,
Easton Ghent
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good luck with it... hope you will do well :)
if you are providing guilds with recources and money feel free to give any guardian some ;):P
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Congratulations Golarim, on your new found idea. This posting says it all. You put time and thought into this and produced well structured guild and responsible rules. You have created great benefits too. Great job, and good luck to you.
/me bows respectfully
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Alrighty..me being the businessman I am (spelling on that? :P) I\'ve come up with a bit of a deal for the guilds who have decided to support me,even partialy.
I would ask The Dragon Council, The Way of the Hammer, The Community of Vaalnor, and The Survivors of Berne to each donate one member to my company so that we may have enough of a workforce to get on our feet. Of cource, in return, I have propositions for all of you,
Dragon Council - Any amount of tria you want.
The Way of the Hammer - Proglin, I will not only provide the prize for your next tournament, I will host the next three.
Community of Vaalnor - 50,000 tria worth of free ores and gems.
Survivors of berne - A small stock of weapons and armor.
The payments will be given when we return your member. Your members will not be held in thecompany for more than a week..in the worst case 12 days.
If you could please each answer my proposition as soon as possible.
Farewell,
Golarim.
[As you can see, it\'s gettin desperate to get this thing going, and there is a HUGE lack of interest right now.]
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Question, question :D
Is this a sort of.. well, \"guild\" guild that members must be part of and part of only, or is it more of an organization that may welcome workers from other guilds as well, whether temporarily right now or more permanently later on?
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answer, answer??
I plan to have it have members as of now...When our stockpiles etc. grow, we will start hiring people from the outside with wages and stuff..kinda complex, can\'t really explain it all.
EDIT: yeah, I\'ve decided to slow down and just take on a few other projects as well until I get three more people willing to support this.
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Then I definitely wish you luck and a speedy growth! :)
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You can count on the Community of Vaalnor\'s support, like I said in private before. However I\'d like to talk about the price. while 50,000 trias in raw materials and gems is a very gracious offer I think that you will need your mining output to grow, especially in those early weeks. Also that is a whole lot of ore to transport and store. Therefor I suggest the following price, the Hydlaa Mining Company will form an alliance with the Community of Vaalnor and provide us with large quantities of cheap resources. We will pay you so you benefit and we have all the resources we need to sell or to craft with. As a part of the community there is only one \'rule\': \"We take care of our own.\"
In return our Giorn Kleaver will join you, possibly as a permanent member. He is our most capable Stonebreaker miner with quite a bit of experience in the mines of Hydlaa.
What do you think?
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I have thought of creating a guild like this many times before, but I always knew I wouldn\'t have enough time for that. So I\'m very glad someone had the effort to do this.
Nice work on the guild overall, but it still needs some organizing. In mining there could be separate departments of managers, miners and those who run the logistics (transportation, storing, trading). Transporting of the minerals could easily be done by subcontractors in the beginning.
As said, this really boosts the economy. And it was truly a nice idea of renting manpower from different guilds to get your guild build up.
I\'ll look if I\'ll have time to join/support your guild after I finish my studies for this spring.
Oh, and I liked the website, the book theme suits fine for a mining guild. Altough, I would give that logo some more style. PM me if you want any help on the website art. \"CV\" (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c364/Clayzekiel/Rangersexample.jpg) :)
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Zan, I\'ll happily take in Giorn. Rioth of the Dragon Council has also agreed to ask around in his guild.
Clayzekiel: The logo was somethin cheap I got off google :P And I\'d love to have you join our now rapidly growing workforce. the subcontractor thing I\'ve been thinking about...I want to change a current rank to \"contractor\" who deals with the transportation, overseeing of the work, etc. Also, a new logo would be awesone, the example one is really nice work.by the way, the website art I have done absolutely 0 of :P it\'s just some templete, so site help is more than appretiated.
EDIT: The Hydlaa Mining Company was just created!
Launch parteh!!
We are now open to anyone who wishes to join.
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I\'m sorry that i did not see your proposition earlier, but if the offer still stands, i am available to give you a member. Just let me know, and i will gladly work something out.. and no compensation is neccessary.
Easton Ghent
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hmm i will support you a member to... *Peacer starts searching the dungeons*
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Yes Easton and others, the above offers still stand because we only have 2 dedicated miners and none who are fit enough to enter the dungeon. And it is extended to all guilds. You can donate a member for a temporary amount of time, and we will be in debt.
I am also hiring independent miners with wages. You can be part of another guild or freelancing or whatever, as long as you mine you get paid...well.
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Looks like you know whats your doing... but it might be tough. Personally, I would join a guild like this, but many are too greedy. You do sound consistant which will help.
And how soon will your history be done?
Hmm and I think I may have some time to help you out a bit.
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Looks like you know whats your doing... but it might be tough. Personally, I would join a guild like this, but many are too greedy. You do sound consistant which will help.
About the greedy part, that\'s exactly why we only have 2 members :P (rest are alts.) Even the lowest ranks have huge responsibility with the issue of keeping their profits to themselves and causing the guild economy to crash. That\'s why I am extremely picky about who enters and when. This is also why I asked established guilds to send members, cause I beleive that they will be more than trustworthy when they have the boss to go back to after the job :)
And how soon will your history be done?
Soon(tm) (c) All rights reserved 2006-2457
Hmm and I think I may have some time to help you out a bit
You\'re more than welcome to help out, since we need all of it.
EDIT: I am in desperate need of a contractor. You just have to figure out a way of \"Taking orders, fulfilling them, sending them back, collecting pay, dividing pay, and finalizing transaction. *gasp*
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Well, i have one thing that i need to remind you of.
Patience..
Nothing can kill a good idea quicker than a lack of patience. Especially with the new client, and whatnot, you\'re going to need a lot of patience. But you have a lot of support, so i think you should be alright, but, promise me you\'ll stick with it for as long as you have support. I\'d like to see this idea grow..
Easton
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Hi
I am not much of a miner, but I could help becaues I uslly can get into the dongug and for something right now is blocking the path to my fivort stop to kill tesusabg. Don\'t now what it is thougt that blocks the path to the woods.
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You can post an itroduction in our forumsor meet me ingame :)
Also,
Thanks to the good guys at The Dragon Council, all 5 storage chars are filled with ores and gems, so we desperately need buyers...check the forums for more info (Link on main site)
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I really like the idea of the guild. I created my character and my background with the intent that he would be a master gem cutter (lapidary) and with the assumption that I would do most of the gathering of materials myself. A guild that is set up to acquire, process, and distribute the materials is really nice.
There are a few concerns that I have. First, I wonder if setting a weekly trias quota is necessarily the best way. While I understand that money is the bottom line for an organization there are some other factors to consider. For example, Coal sells for 0, so a miner would have no incentive to go after this material, yet it is (or will be) critical for making good steel. If set with a value of materials to gather each week all your miners would only go for diamond, yet the guild will surely need a variety of materials.
Mining is slow and tedious, what if miners were given a weekly quota of materials to gather based on demand. That way 50 platinum would equal 50 diamond even if the values do not.
Second, I would be interested in becoming a dedicated member of this guild, it does after all meet the niche that I am aiming for, but my time is somewhat limited. Do you have room for someone who may only put in an hour a day? I don\'t want to spend every second of my time online slaving in a mine to meet my quota, this is supposed to be fun after all.
Third, how does this all actually work considering that none of the manufacturing or raw material processing skills work? I don\'t mean to be rude, but with the structure and flow as described in the initial post it sounds a bit like a pyramid scheme. I guess I\'m asking for a little more elaboration.
Thanks,
Torkin
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hehehe. About the weekly thing..we threw that out the second we started because it wasn\'t practical. We now mine as we get orders. I think that answers the two extremely long paragraphs. About the hour a day or so, taht\'s more than enough. We really moved away from the initial posts stuff and are more of a do it as we go kind of thing. Err..the thingy with the structure and the flow and the other stuff..I am completely lost. heres our new work way:
I get the demands for ores and such and spread it amongst miners. The first to call it get it. Let\'s say I have an order for:
25 gold
25 diamonds.
Bob calls the gold first and Jimmy takes the diamonds first. So I assign them those and take the orders off the list. Once they give me the ores, they get their pay...You can be not as active in this guild, you\'ll just get a few less orders...and a few less tria. Of cource you can only do 1 order at a time, and 2 if we really are in a rush. The weekly thing we threw out. I hardly ever do any of the guilds mining myself, and am more around advertising/trading. And yeah, I think this new system is a bit more practical. Any comments/questions about the new system? Ask!
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Great sign me up! That sounds like a much better system. I will look for you online but as I said I am not on as much as I would like.
(I am Torkin IG too)
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*sighned up* please try and give our forums a glance every month or so just in case one of us dies. :)
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Technically, this is the \"second\" mining guild around. I had a guild once called \"The Mining Guild\" but it got disbanded due to lack of members. And I never played that character to recruit. =P But, congrats on letting this one live for more than a day. =P
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hardly counts as anything if it was around a day.
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donating and helping on his forums... Peacer goes into supporting mode ^^
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Hi. I sent a PM about joining the Hydlaa Mining Company but have not yet gotten a response. Tell me what I need to do to join, if I need to meet in the game or something like that.
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I thought this guild died?
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I think they are trying out carfting at the mount.
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Meh. I worked my character up to level 10, then I logged on one day and found that I couldn't even melt iron. Right now I have 6 mules full of platinum with some iron mixed in, and I can't do anything with it.
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Well, due to problems, and more problems, I couldn't get on the interwebs. When it was resolved and I returned, the guild was dead (no surprise)
Well I'm back, and the Hydlaa Mining Company is being reformed, and just about ready for business.
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I haven't had the chance to see it yet, but there have been reports of remains of a "mining town" or building in one of the new areas. Perhaps this could be of interest to you somehow :}
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When I get back in game, I'm going to be so freaking lost... I probably won't even make it in game before the next major update anyway. :-\
I had over 6 mules with various substances on them and quest items. I just dropped all of it where people could pick it up, spread out around the main social centres. This was a number of months ago and it's not something a person would care about, but I figured I might as well update/correct the statement I made earlier in this thread.