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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Selete on May 08, 2006, 01:56:49 am

Title: Charisma: What's it good for?
Post by: Selete on May 08, 2006, 01:56:49 am
Now I'm pretty new to the game, so please forgive me if this seems like an obvious question, but how can Charisma be used in-game?

I'm trying to craft a character to be a diplomat, but so far, I haven't found any way to do that outside of pure in-character text roleplay, which is naturally ineffective when it comes to NPCs.

So if you can't use it for natural charm, what does Charisma effect?
Title: Re: Charisma: What's it good for?
Post by: Karyuu on May 08, 2006, 02:09:43 am
Right now, nearly nothing. Things are still being fleshed out, so some stats and skills aren't yet available for use or influence, Charisma being one of them. There are some weapons that may require a certain amout of CHA for you to wield them, but these are rare and not necessarily the best. And our NPC system is still in its very infancy, as we still have a long way to go with dialogues. Text roleplay takes care of such things for now.
Title: Re: Charisma: What's it good for?
Post by: reisio on May 08, 2006, 03:06:08 am
During character creation, Charisma is important if you want to start with higher levels for various skills - Crystal Way among them.
Title: Re: Charisma: What's it good for?
Post by: Peacer on May 08, 2006, 07:22:05 am
charisma gives more mana and improoves spell effect of crystal and dark way
Title: Re: Charisma: What's it good for?
Post by: Monk_ on May 09, 2006, 08:14:04 pm
Can we please get a dev confirmation of whether Charisma truly makes Summon Arrow, Life Infusion more powerful ingame right now? Thank you.
Title: Re: Charisma: What's it good for?
Post by: Karyuu on May 09, 2006, 08:37:00 pm
Tested, no effect.
Title: Re: Charisma: What's it good for?
Post by: Kymizer on May 10, 2006, 01:37:50 am
interesting *jots down a note about to no longer train charisma*
Title: Re: Charisma: What's it good for?
Post by: Pale on May 10, 2006, 02:30:39 am
Training your mental stats increased your Mana points, so Charisma does have a purpose. Sort of.

On a related note, does this mean that improving your will and intelligence won't affect your red, blue, brown and azure ways?
Title: Re: Charisma: What's it good for?
Post by: LigH on May 10, 2006, 01:10:56 pm
In general, the mental stats don't affect the power of the spells or the casting time yet. Only the increase of your mana "pool" is noticeable.

The magical way skills seem to reduce the amount of mana consumed per cast, and might affect the probability slightly (although this is more affected by the power level you chose while casting, I would never suggest >30% here, usually 10-20%)
Title: Re: Charisma: What's it good for?
Post by: Monk_ on May 10, 2006, 02:47:40 pm
If you have high Charisma, will your CW spell fail less often?
Title: Re: Charisma: What's it good for?
Post by: Herleva on May 10, 2006, 02:54:55 pm
In fact charisma increases mana points and determines how strong you appear to others.
I tested it and found out that when two chars have almost the same skills and stats
but different charisma one appears stronger than the other.
A boost from 70 to 120 in charisma changed the estimation.
So it`s like in real life, you can have a weak body but appear strong when you are charismatic.  :D
I also tested ways to increase the power of magic, even with 220 in charisma the energy arrow neither
causes more damage, nor let you cast the spell faster nor uses up less mana.
The only thing that the percent bar changes is the amount of mana you need, the higher the more mana points.
When you are lucky and the spell was successful with 50% you wasted mana without any effect.
Tell me if you made different experiences, i would be grateful ;)

Greetings,

Herleva, Steel Commander in Dark Empire
Title: Re: Charisma: What's it good for?
Post by: Xordan on May 10, 2006, 03:12:39 pm
Spell % bar is broken I think. It just sucks up mana for nothing.
Title: Re: Charisma: What's it good for?
Post by: Kymizer on May 10, 2006, 03:22:12 pm
maybe in this version...but in the .13 version, it worked for me
Title: Re: Charisma: What's it good for?
Post by: LigH on May 10, 2006, 04:28:45 pm
Not all spells' powers are related to the mana consumption. For some spells (like Freeze), there is a formula documented in their description, how the consumption affects the duration or impact.

And ... well, we may not assume that this formula is still correct. Too many developers might have worked on this part. ;)