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Gameplay => Wish list => Topic started by: Fluffe on January 18, 2003, 09:34:43 pm

Title: Newbie island??
Post by: Fluffe on January 18, 2003, 09:34:43 pm
I think newbie island would be a good idea for all newbies who will come to planeshift.
On this newbie island thay will learn how to make things like blacksmithing, cut trees, swim yeah all things you need to learn. anyway i think this would be god cuz newbies are so annoying  :))
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Post by: Vladamir on January 18, 2003, 10:44:27 pm
*Scratches his head lightly*

I don\'t mean to sound offensive or anything, but for some reason that sounds like something a newbie would suggest.  

Personally, I\'d prefer if it was made that there was an offline tutorial to get them started rather than make some island in game for them to be let loose on.


Vladamir
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Post by: alcapalis on January 19, 2003, 12:56:01 am
the best way to get in a MMORPG is to participate in the game right from the start...
if you go to a n00b island first you will feel noobish and it will be less fun... and what benefits would there be?

and erhm.. i thought everybody wanted to have everything very realistic... do you get on a baby island when you get born before you can go to your home?
i dun think so... (sorry can\'t remember it anymore :P )

but i agree on making some area\'s that are easier then others, so n00b\'s (yeah i luv that word :) ) kan train easily
Title: GREAT!!!
Post by: Fluffe on January 19, 2003, 01:33:08 am
Yeah thats a great idea if u relly are  n00b i can have a offline program to learn i think thats a good idea =) and ofcurse there will be easyer areas for n00bs to train on i think the monsters in this world will be that hard that u cannot take em by your own (ok some monsters)
but i relly like to run with other people and fight monsters.
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Post by: Vladamir on January 19, 2003, 05:02:12 pm
I must agree with alcapalis.  There are no newbie islands in life, and therefore there shouldn\'t be in ps.  Of course this is but a game, but it is also suppose to be very realistic (I think).
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Post by: Link on January 19, 2003, 05:06:23 pm
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Originally posted by Vladamir
but it is also suppose to be very realistic (I think).


FANTASY, not Reality.
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Post by: Monkeys eat peanuts on January 19, 2003, 05:27:24 pm
im with link on this one, those who have played xenimus (which no-one probably has) knows that what link is saying about annoying newbies is right heh. When you are a mid to high level you cant enter any town without being chased by 5 newbies who think its their godgiven right to be powerleveled, geared up and shrined (taking then to stones that enhance their stats) by the first person they see. This way you\'ll filter out the ones that cant make it on their own =P
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Post by: Voldengrath on January 19, 2003, 06:46:13 pm
sigh...

Number one, were in caves, no islands I dont think are planned? I might be wrong.

Your a newbie and shouldnt suggest that Idea cause that sucks :)

Why do people insist on having tutorials. When you start the game everyones goin to be in the same boat. Just play. If you die, too bad there isnt looting so hey at least you know some guy isnt going to get your stuff.

Just dont worry about not knowing what to do. Its more fun finding out on your own then having some NPC tell you how to do things.
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Post by: Princess Aelya on January 19, 2003, 07:23:54 pm
yep. half the fun is figuring things out yourself.

I play alot of console RPG\'s. sometimes one of my friends likes to come over and try em out. I\'m ok with that, but whats really annoying is that she always asks me how to do things or why she cant do something. She acts like im some all knowing wisdom. If im in a good mood ill answer her question. But if I get sick of her (usually this is the case :P) I tell her, \"I had to figure it out myself and your gonna do the same.\" Anyway the point is, as far as tutorials go, I would only go as far as to give basic info about combat and spells and controls and such. Past that they should figure it out themselves.
Title: My Opinion
Post by: Arida on January 19, 2003, 07:56:11 pm
I think it sounds like a pretty good idea.  I hate not knowing what to do as soon as I get into a game.  I think that maybe we should all get like hooked up with someone who could show us around, or something.  I don\'t know, just suggesting, because I don\'t know how you could actually do that, there\'s probably to many newbies anyway.  Oh well.
~Airda
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Post by: Vladamir on January 19, 2003, 09:15:51 pm
Baah, of course the game is fantasy.  But it does have realistic traits to it, such as you can\'t get your head chopped off and still live, probably not anyways.  How bout we just stick everyone in the world and let them run around until they figure things out.  It wouldn\'t really bother me that much, people will learn what things will get you killed quick enough.
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Post by: Dustman on January 20, 2003, 01:42:17 am
Am thinking, why not include some quests or something that would teach the noobs ( including me ) how things work. Kinda like in Neverwinter Nights where there are some NPCs who teach you how to work your console, change views, equip, cast spells, etc.

And there would be rewards at the end of each quest like maybe a better armor or weapon than the one you start out with. This way they\'ll be more enticed to do the quests and learn there than bother other weary adventurers  :)
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Post by: Vladamir on January 20, 2003, 04:22:28 am
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Kinda like in Neverwinter Nights where there are some NPCs who teach you


Eh, that might work.  I\'m not too sure about teaching how the console works though, that\'s kind of what the game manual is for.
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Post by: Jessyn on January 20, 2003, 04:23:25 am
Is anyone else remembering that little bit at the beginning of runescape? *shudders*

Jessyn
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Post by: Link on January 20, 2003, 04:34:37 am
Ohhhhh!!! The new aelya is hott!!!

And the only thing I remember about the beggining of Runescape was a NPC which told you stupid things like where you were and you didn\'t HAVE to talk to him.
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Post by: Silverblade on January 20, 2003, 06:09:38 am
I believe the best way to learn about a MMORPG (other than figuring it out for yourslef) is to pick up things from more experienced players. The best thing about MMO games is the player interaction.

In a newbie Island, you would be surrounded by other newbies, other people who know nothing about the game.
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Post by: Fanomatic2000 on January 20, 2003, 01:49:26 pm
There\'s more ways to learn things in a realistic way.
The best way to learn the basics is to read a book written for Newbies. (I don\'t like the word n00b) If the game includes a writing-system you could write books with facts about the surroundings, and even \"how to\" books.
\"How to make your first meal\", \"how to build a house\", \"how to mine and smelt metals\", \"how to get a life\" and so on...
The beginner-books should contain pictures and \"easy reading\" (for non-english speaking people) to make things become a little easier for us newbies.
You should have a book containing the basics in your inventory from the beginning.
There should also be a pop-up system containing info about the game (and a cute animal explaining everything to you :D  ) which you could turn on and off.

Not everybody is hard-core RPG-gamers you know ;)
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Post by: Culsoron on January 20, 2003, 06:01:12 pm
Im just talking out of my arse here, but arent all of us newbies, since the game is not out yet and none have played the game actual game ?

The newbie island idea is terrible, books and other newbies are all you need to get into the game. Team up with someone, go to a bar, walk around. The controls and sych should be explained in a manual, put the rest is up to each and everyone to learn from themselfs. If someone decides to make a school for newbies later, in game, instead of beeing a hunter, that would be nice. But no newbie island !!

And what is the game that should not be mentioned ?
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Post by: Aruneko on January 20, 2003, 10:32:31 pm
One word:  readme.

Stick that in the download and website and everything will be ok.

And don\'t have any NPCs that say \"Now click on me to talk with me, and click on badguys to squish them.\"  I haven\'t met anyone that tells me to talk with him to communicate, or to hit my enemies to win.  (Ok, bad example.  But NPCs should roleplay, even if players do not, and saying \'click here\' isn\'t roleplaying.)

If you have the word \"newbie\" in your forum title, then I don\'t understand why you would start this topic.
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Post by: Vengeance on January 21, 2003, 09:41:04 am
I agree with reading books and talking to NPCs who are there to help you to learn.

Of course, enterprising fans will put up websites explaining everything in grave detail, but not everyone will have the patience for these.

Perhaps some ambitious player will end up writing a bunch of the newbie tutorial books and making a lot of tria from it?  :-)

- Venge