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Title: Adraax : KCP... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 02, 2006, 04:57:39 pm
     Greetings all PSers;
          The creation of Klyro city is coming along very well.
     This thread is as the heading suggests, Names. We need to name everything, so if you feel creative we would like to hear your suggestions.

Klyron city name

AdRaax

 RIVER AND LAKE NAMES (not in town, outside town)

Capacious sea
Diriadion Lake (Big lake)
Gairon (River)
Inuarion(It's a river that flows over an ancient Klyros graveyard, Inuarion could mean something like Dead place/Graveyard/River of darkness/etc..)
Medllaquion ocean (What does it sound like?)
Ontarvyon River (Very big and beautiful river, ends in the waterfall Klypher falls)
River Fiorn
The River Of Sitarin (Sitarin was one of the ancient klyros kings)


OCEAN NAMES

Tirigadnon Ocean
Mosairon Ocean
Heiranid Ocean
Qironan Ocean
Piaqanon Ocean
Ardel Ocean
Weygon Ocean
Britlana Ocean
Bondoral Ocean
Tirinuan Ocean
Trianduon Ocean
Melanquoin Ocean
Melanqa Ocean
Maqai Ocean
Medllaquoin Ocean
Baldurion Ocean

NATURE

Alava (An oak like tree, it's always hollow inside, inside it there are always many animals)
Almon - Plant Plant
Arorin (Mushroom, tall like a dwarf, glows purple)
Ba ( Algi, little green organisms that float on the water)
Bacu (The Klyros house, giant breathing, living thing, ask Inca/Baldur)
Capilli: A large succulent plant found all around the city that gives off a crisp clean smell. Blooms brilliant red every 50 years and drops in one day. Complete blooms are said to enhance ones alertness and strength and are worth a large sum from the right buyer
Girahna (A very big flower, usually over 3 meter tall)
Harzer (Bone like material, very hard)
Kryptaro (big swamp tree)
Lorigon ( A tree that is very hard, like Iron wood)
Rangoroi (A light tree, a bit like bambo)
Sta (small tree with very long branches)
Wiargona (VERY deadly plant, poisonous)
Xeroran(Mushroom, small and eatable)


TOWN

May be your city can have many canals-streets (natural/artificial)--> So, streets can be named like :Yellow brook, 1th Shark stream. (not street - stream).

Abazaa (the plaza or bazarre)
Arangols Alley
Bacu Bullovard.
Buldurs Bullivard.
Capilli Plaza
Gonun Brook
Grand Rapids Ave.
Inca’s Stream.
Kann Passages
Laragorns Passage.
Loril Way - (Canal that runs down the limit of the city, on one side is dwellings and on   the      other is nature until it eventually cuts into the edge of the city and meets up with the Plkadia.)
Minuets Canal
Optar’s Ave.
Plkadia - ( Plkadia canal, the main canal throught the city)
Surfland Way
The Tefusang cannal (because Bleoo pushed one in saving an elderly Klyros?) called the    tef by locals
Uxumbrik Way
Xai’s Passage
Yellow Brook way
Yin Je Cannal



ITEMS

Eplytaro ( A small knife)
Esquil (Dish-food)
Esorta (lance or Klyros clothing (shirt))
Gerhana (Special seaweed walls Klyros use to screen off different zones indoor) Gerhana
Gardion(A rock who is nicely shaped, with symbols)
Niraga (Well that spits out "transformed" crystals)
Sauurka (distilled version of the "mercury" that the runners or glider's used to fly?)
Shegenriz ( Sharp weapon)
Searban (katamaran)
Trellta ( A Klyros nomad tent)
Xalkaro ( Something the Klyros use to get the bones away from the fish they catch)




ANIMALS

Astu (A plant like animal that can move on its roots,very beautiful, a female name)
Agi Kish- Lobster/scorpion like creature, a delicacy due to the danger in catching them
Cestergon ( Dog like animal)
Choria ( Fish, It' scales are coral like and it's about as big as a fat cat. It has small teeth but hundreds of them, it has got red and blue dots all over and it shines in the dark. It is very strong)
D'tarn (Big, big fish, 30-50 meter long, lives deep in the sea, lazy but it can be fast, natural enemy to the Orgast, if a D'tarn is killed and brought to land it can feed the people of a city for months)
Erb (A frog?)
Gyonia- a manatee like sea mammal sometimes hunted
Ialnor (Fish)
Nahadi (Reptile like alligator-cameleont)
Orgast (big shark, natural enemy to the D'tarn)
Pteo (Fish, a small fish, it has a silvery color with streaks of blue)
Qheronner (Fish, very fast, big as an orca, 10 meters long)
Quorka- long lived tortiouse looking creatures [possibly use shells as shield or even roofs of huts]
Stax (deer with big horns, fast runner, Klyros hunt it)
SylkSor- an aquatic spider that weave nets these are seldom seen by the bravest divers.
Shazzer ( Fish with sharp things (a bit like a swordfish), a battle ship, it has a spike in the front wich it uses to ram other ships)
Uinor (Small bear like animal, can swim)


LANDSCAPE

Eptar's Crag (Crag, Eptar's point)
Eptar's point (High mountain, Eptar was a lord who died on the top of it in a storm)
Eklato Bay (A small bay)
Klypher Falls ( Giant waterfall)
Kolorian ( Grassland-place)
Levian ( Maybe the floating island?)
Xyanx (Maybe the floating Island?)

BUILDINGS

(INCA:)Also, if i properly understand Kixie, you can combine english words with klyros words. For example, "Mad Dancing Searban" - tavern in port.

Mad Dancing Searban ( Tavern)
The Black Stax (Tavern)
Bacu ( See above)
Klesstron (Maybe one of the "important" buildings)

All the other buildings like: Bank, storage, food store, item shop, harnquist.

NAMES

Astu (A plant like animal that can move on its roots,very beautiful, a female name)
Axaro (Male name)
Bax ( strong klyros-male name)
Eopt ( Small fish, a minnow, a young Pteo, merchants name )
Eplytaro (Surname)
Extar, Extara (Twins; Brother and Sister)
Exy ( Cute girl's name (by INCA, heh))
Ezz (Male name)
Ezzy (Female name)
Hapank (Fish-farmers name)
Kleor (Male name)
Kloto Pleptaryen (Someone famous klyros)
Klyhria (Female name)
Lopaan
Optar (Male name)
Pitaro (Male name)
Qeron (Klyros hunter-name)
Tiizak
Uhaan (female)
Vazak
Xai
Xordan (huh?)

The 11 Runners

Tealk Arto
Kint Raks
Eptar Ixtarto
Axara Lytah (Female?)
Bax Teroklainor
Ptar Qeron
Xintr Esquil
Orgast Plaxtor
Kleor Trayenks
Kloto Preptaryen
Ezz Pleptaryen
Extar Klypher

The Klyros Counsel

Extara Klypher
Hapank xallptar
Klyhria Esdrax
Vleptor Plkadia
Plaxtor Vleptorya

The Disbandment (A group of deserters)

Xazz Tradjenx
Ostal Dexorn
Minto xallptar
Trad Zhoptuvyar
Qynar (k’-why-nar)

Words of the Klyron Language

Érgain (Mean something in Klyros language)

J'ran (this means a Guardian. Every klyros leader had a special elite squad named J'ran squad. It number about 100 great warriors, their task was escorting klyros Leader in every trip, guarding town treasury and castle. Also they were a great vanguard of klyros army, they fought on the hardest places of battlefield and often played a decisive role in battle. They may be similar to japan samurais, but nevertheless they were considered as an equal to elders and no one could impinge to broke their own honor, even the leader.)

Galerazi! (derrivitive of Galeran and his persecution of the Klyros, I wish galeran uopn you , taken as a curse)
Yldirin (Means something in Klyros language)

Due to character limitations for posts, Xillix's list of additions cannot be posted here.
So here is Xillix's Additions (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23667.msg274454#msg274454)

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POSSIBILITIES

   
If anyone has ideas for meanings, I will add them as we go along.
I have tried to add a few underwater words, but we can use many more. I guess underwater they would use lots of clicking sounds and high pitched sounds much like a dolphin or whale as Inca said earlier.
Let me know what you guys think, and I will keep working on smaller words and water and air words as well.


Aal-a-berith (waters that bear)
Abeq
Aboh
Acthi
AdRaac {kelp wine?}
aguit
ahjuu
ahkuin
ahnk ("anhk" Eternity, infinity, eternal life hieroglyth in ancient egipt)
arbunknn
arhcol
aruug
*Armuutriik – ( A glowing crystal on a staff)
azuk
Baxto
Darda
Diktaro
Desptar
Dexorn
Drakyny
Dunbar
Duxy
Doodry
Detarn
Detryll
Eeeawee - ( underwater cave )
Eeeawoo
Eslar
Espra
Esparto
Estlad
Estrax
Estraxto
Exr
Gaptkon
Garaghna
Gronash
Ick Gnat
Inary
Isharke
Jaltry
Joxoron
J'porto
Jyptar
Jynxren
Kintr
Kionh
KlkKlk – ( Klyros greeting ) pronounced ( click-click)
Klo
Klyhria
Kuzab
Koe
Meir
Mherr
Mitark
Minto
Mizzelb
Mullollow – (mul-o-low)
Myzael
Nineus
Ockarg
Opt
Optar
Optarven
Ornex
Ostal
Ounci (A main road?)
Phni
Phrealand
Plark
Plax
ptaryendor
PteoKloto – ( fish, hut )
Pteroklainor
Pteroxondor –
Pthogine
Qynar – (k’-why-nar)
Rhonland
Rintara
Riptar
Sptklk –( pronounced- sput click )
Sta –
Stull
Syios
Tharn
tryptarto
Trad
Treltor – (A Klyros nomad tent maker)
Tzun
Vazak

Vleptorvyen – (pronounced( vle’ptor-vee-en ))
Vloril
Xossdoronyan – ( zos-door-o-nee-an )
Xazz
Xintr
Xynax
Ygire
Zambortyk
Zargorptaryan ( zar-gore-ptar-e-n )
Zhoptuvyar – ( zup-too-vee-are )
Zixxal



Water Related Names

Baldurion Ocean
Bondoral Ocean
Britlana Ocean
Capacious sea – (plentiful,abound,ample)
Heiranid Ocean.
Magnanimous sea – (bountiful)
Maqai Ocean
Melanquoin
Mosairon Ocean.
Piaqanon Ocean.
Pulchritudinous – ( beautiful)
Qironan Ocean
Tirinuan Ocean
Trianduon Ocean
Tirigadnon Ocean.





     For more info and progress on the Klyro's Project check out these links;
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23402.0
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23664.0
http://www.flaggrab.com/?

     
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on June 02, 2006, 05:16:23 pm
I examined main K.C.P. thread and stretch out these suggestions and thoughts about City names.

RAST
-inundium

MINETUS
-visenhoof (vissen hoofd = fish head in holand)
- iniu arbunknn
- erfiie suun
- foz do arelho (lol this a beach near my town)
- armoontriik

INCA
-May be your city can have many canals-streets (natural/artificial)--> So, streets can be named like :Yellow brook, 1th Shark stream. (not street - stream). Hey, Italians, who were in Venice?
-Shegenriz

ARANGOL
-Garaghna/Irgon/Almon/Klyhria/Gerhana

HAANZ
-perhaps the name shoudl relate to the river running through the town...or the shore and reef. y'know?... because alot of towns are named aftre their surroundings...but if we do name it after it's surroundings then we should use "ancient kylros names" not like ...Ghirn river town...sorry i don't think any towns are called "*something* river town"...

Laragorn, i like your names with syllable "ptar" (Eptar, Pleptar, Pitaro) - it's sounds like PTEROdactyl, and i like this association with klyron.
Also, i like this suffixes like "aro", "ato" etc. Next, i suggest to substitute letter "i" to letter "y" in majority cases.
I unlike your idea of naming whole City in honor of someone founder (with such basic surname). It's wrong, this City, in my opinion, was founded as small piscatorial klyros village.
I like Haanz idea to called it in the name of river on wich City stands on.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 02, 2006, 05:32:53 pm
Yah you forgot my last one Inca  ;D .
Nah, kidding.

Here are some more:

Girahnna
Allonh
Hapankorppu
Koria/ Choria
Searban
Ialnor
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 02, 2006, 05:34:43 pm
     Thanks Inca, I was trying to do that but you saved me some time  :thumbup:

     Arangol, I like Searban maybe for one of the trimarans or the Gondala.

EDIT: added a couple "ptar" words up top  ::)
EDIT: more ideas below :woot:

More names and places;

phloftar
harzgloto
xallptar
xalkaro
zargorptaryan
kryptarto
ptaryendor
zhoptuvyar
vleptorya
vleptorvyen
tryptarto
xossdoronyan
xerojentyl
shazzptorentaro
ptarquentro
klesstron
klesstrontoryen
klesstronptarto
ptarptarelyght
rangorstyll

EDIT:    Pteo fish  thanks to Kixie  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 04, 2006, 11:10:21 am
Doing good, mate :thumbup: Try to come up with some more short names.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Kixie on June 04, 2006, 01:35:39 pm
I thought of something interesting not too long ago. If the Klyros were a seperate race of people, don't you think they may have their own seperate language? I mean think about it; their biological physiology is completely. Gills, gallbladders, other organs that other races would not have, and that might change their accents of speech.

If they do have their own language, other races are going to have to try and adapt their own language to the klyros language, when it comes to important things, persons and places when they are inable to pronounce the words. That point being made, why don't we have some places or things that are "literal" translations, that are printed in english, used for common term by other races who cannot speak the language so fluently. Pteo fish, and other nouns in this thread can be excepted from this rule because unlike a majority (or perhaps minority, it is up to your choosing) they can be spoken by the common races.

I think this would work, as I believe there has been some talk over different planeshift languages for some time. But, as I posted earlier, we should take these liberties besides how we think the developers will react, and try our best to flesh the Klyros out. Later we can recieve approval.

Some nice common references could be as such, and I'll try to come up with some authentic klyros speech as well thrown in.
Hammerhead bay- Small lagoon in the 6th spiral of Ylakium. Famous for the laid back atmosphere, and a popular tourist attraction for it's signature rum.
Ekeelatojujusmee (Ee-Kee-Lah-Toh-Joo-Joo-SMEE!)- Rum enjoyed by all 8 quarters of Ylakium, and heralded for over 2 ages as the finest all around rum produced. Those uninitiated to the peculiar taste will be pleasantly surprised by it's after effects now famous in the popular tune by Ptarquentro the Bard (thanks Laragorn), "Shakey Rumbley Toppley Fun Time" (it translates alot better into the Klyros language, I promise :P)

Some lyrics to "Shakey Rumbley Toppley Fun Time", because I'm feeling adventurous:
"I headed down to the anvil on the water
Ready to get pallet steady
But as I headed by the ocean's rocky little beddy
Got the feelin' that I should take it steady
Cus I heard that little shakey
I could feel my belly achey
And I knew that it wouldn't be long
'Till I got that little rumbley
All down in my tumbley
So come one everybody
Have Toppley Good time."

Manta Ray Shuffle- Common dance made popular in the bar by the incoming overseas sensation of Klyros folksong.
(Ok here are some more serious ones again :P)
Tigereye- Uncommon jewels found along the beaches of Ylakium. Made famous by their inquisitive prominent "Cat's eye" found in the center of the gem, which reflects light to an unnatural degree. Some say that a mad wizard once obssessed in finding "a secret unharnessed power" found in the Klyros people.


Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: rast on June 04, 2006, 02:32:29 pm
wow, very nice ideas :)

here is my idea, what about using accents in some of the words to give the language an unusual sound. ë,ò or some other made up accents could make this tounge more unique to this race. For example: phlöftar ;)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 04, 2006, 02:46:20 pm
I thought of something interesting not too long ago. If the Klyros were a seperate race of people, don't you think they may have their own seperate language? I mean think about it; their biological physiology is completely. Gills, gallbladders, other organs that other races would not have, and that might change their accents of speech.

If they do have their own language, other races are going to have to try and adapt their own language to the klyros language, when it comes to important things, persons and places when they are inable to pronounce the words. That point being made, why don't we have some places or things that are "literal" translations, that are printed in english, used for common term by other races who cannot speak the language so fluently. Pteo fish, and other nouns in this thread can be excepted from this rule because unlike a majority (or perhaps minority, it is up to your choosing) they can be spoken by the common races.

I think this would work, as I believe there has been some talk over different planeshift languages for some time. But, as I posted earlier, we should take these liberties besides how we think the developers will react, and try our best to flesh the Klyros out. Later we can recieve approval.

Some nice common references could be as such, and I'll try to come up with some authentic klyros speech as well thrown in.
Hammerhead bay- Small lagoon in the 6th spiral of Ylakium. Famous for the laid back atmosphere, and a popular tourist attraction for it's signature rum.
Ekeelatojujusmee (Ee-Kee-Lah-Toh-Joo-Joo-SMEE!)- Rum enjoyed by all 8 quarters of Ylakium, and heralded for over 2 ages as the finest all around rum produced. Those uninitiated to the peculiar taste will be pleasantly surprised by it's after effects now famous in the popular tune by Ptarquentro the Bard (thanks Laragorn), "Shakey Rumbley Toppley Fun Time" (it translates alot better into the Klyros language, I promise :P)

Some lyrics to "Shakey Rumbley Toppley Fun Time", because I'm feeling adventurous:
"I headed down to the anvil on the water
Ready to get pallet steady
But as I headed by the ocean's rocky little beddy
Got the feelin' that I should take it steady
Cus I heard that little shakey
I could feel my belly achey
And I knew that it wouldn't be long
'Till I got that little rumbley
All down in my tumbley
So come one everybody
Have Toppley Good time."

Manta Ray Shuffle- Common dance made popular in the bar by the incoming overseas sensation of Klyros folksong.
(Ok here are some more serious ones again :P)
Tigereye- Uncommon jewels found along the beaches of Ylakium. Made famous by their inquisitive prominent "Cat's eye" found in the center of the gem, which reflects light to an unnatural degree. Some say that a mad wizard once obssessed in finding "a secret unharnessed power" found in the Klyros people.



Nice job, Kixie! :) I'll rename the topic to "Klyro's City Lore" because of that :sorcerer:
Edit: Dang it, Is this the name's thread? I'm making such a fool of myself X-/
Working on my story ^^ Still in Swedish
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 04, 2006, 06:20:23 pm
     Awsome Kixie  \\o//  You have an amazing imagination and a great tallent for putting it in words.  You have brought great ideas we all will be able to work from.  :thumbup:
You are so right on the fact that the the history of the Klyro's is all but nonexistant, but with talented people like you we will change all of that.


Side note- I have to take a trip to southern ontario so i will be gone for a couple of days. I cant wait to see what you guys come up with while i am gone.  :sorcerer:

Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 04, 2006, 06:36:18 pm
Does that mean we wont see you for long?

/me buys a ticket to Ontario
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on June 04, 2006, 09:48:57 pm
About Klyros pronunciation: i think their language can reflect their triple nature-->so they able to speak underwater, speak like other terrestrial creatures, speak through the wide distance of open air (like birds).
So, their language can be a symbiosis of 3 speech-levels:
1.Underwater speech (like dolphin or whale)
2.Common speech
3.Birds/bats-like speech (soniferous,ultrasound...)

About names:
i think not every object in Klyros City got to have it's own original klyros name. Yellow brook can be just a Yellow Brook. Also, if i properly understand Kixie, you can combine english words with klyros words. For example, "Mad Dancing Searban" - tavern in port.
..Or you want to write "Klyros Silmarillion"? :)

As i noticed in another thread, klyros came to Yliakim after all races had come and settled. So, many geographic names are already were assigned by other races. I think, you must take it into consideration.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: minetus on June 04, 2006, 11:26:23 pm
but the 8th 7th levels of yiliakum are flooded so its nolthir territory
on the 6th level i imagine:
dermorians in the upper forests/rivers being related to forests beings they would have none to lill interest in the lower shore regions
nolthirs on some big lakes maybe, being water related again they wouldnt have a special interest for shore/low water regions

that leaves the klyros with full eploration motives on shore/river/lake areas.

i dont think a dermorian would have a taste to living in a swamp like atmosphere but then again they would have plenty of nature around.
for nolthirs they like deeper waters, few exception to low water places(river/lakes) but altho not impossible.

possible races that could have interests in that zone could be:
dwarves on the higher places since they arent fans of water on a generally way.
xacha and ylians since they have a good adaptibily to environments, this are good candidates to live in that zone also.
lemurs are good candidates to live aside with the dermorians in the 6th lvl forest due to theyr time spent in the dark, the forest shadows are apreciated to them.
ynnwns are good candidates for swamp life too has fisherman or hunters?
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 05, 2006, 08:23:02 am
..Or you want to write "Klyros Silmarillion"? :)

Wow, that would be something great!

New names:

Sitarin
Wiargoa
Ärgöin
Érgaín
Qeron
Íyoldä
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on June 05, 2006, 10:23:38 am
Somebody, please , make wise analysis of posted strange names and make a well-founded selection of'em. Before we all drowned in such amount of "ptar-tia-juufgfgf-sds-sorgh-ullalal-sheg-daz' words :D
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Kixie on June 05, 2006, 11:05:24 am
Somebody, please , make wise analysis of posted strange names and make a well-founded selection of'em. Before we all drowned in such amount of "ptar-tia-juufgfgf-sds-sorgh-ullalal-sheg-daz' words :D
Humuhumu-nukunuku-a-pua‘a ftw!
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 05, 2006, 03:29:53 pm
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RIVER AND LAKE NAMES (not in town, outside town)

Medllaquion ocean (What does it sound like?)
Nibenay (Ocean)
The River Of Sitarin (Sitarin was one of the ancient klyros kings)
Yldirin (Means something in Klyros language)
Érgain (Mean something in Klyros language)
Inuarion(It's a river that flows over an ancient Klyros graveyard, Inuarion could mean something like Dead place/Graveyard/River of darkness/etc..)
Ontarvyon River (Very big and beautiful river, ends in the waterfall Klypher falls)
Diriadion Lake (Big lake)
Gairon (River)
Capacious sea

OCEAN NAMES

Tirigadnon Ocean
Mosairon Ocean
Heiranid Ocean
Qironan Ocean
Piaqanon Ocean
Ardel Ocean
Weygon Ocean
Britlana Ocean
Bondoral Ocean
Tirinuan Ocean
Trianduon Ocean
Melanquoin Ocean
Melanqa Ocean
Maqai Ocean
Medllaquoin Ocean
Baldurion Ocean

NATURE

Ba ( Algi, little green organisms that float on the water)
Bacu (The Klyros house, giant breathing, living thing, ask Inca/Baldur)
Arorin (Mushroom, tall like a dwarf, glows purple)
Wiargona (VERY deadly plant, poisonous)
Kryptaro (big swamp tree)
Rangoroi (A light tree, a bit like bambo)
Xeroran(Mushroom, small and eatable)
Alava (An oak like tree, it's always hollow inside, inside it there are always many animals)
Harzer (Bone like material, very hard)
Girahna (A very big flower, usually over 3 meter tall)
Lorigon ( A tree that is very hard, like Iron wood)
Sta (small tree with very long branches)

TOWN

May be your city can have many canals-streets (natural/artificial)--> So, streets can be named like :Yellow brook, 1th Shark stream. (not street - stream).

Plkadia - ( Plkadia canal, the main canal throught the city)

ITEMS

Esquil (Dish-food)
Esorta (lance or Klyros clothing (shirt))
Shegenriz ( Sharp weapon)
Searban (katamaran)
Xalkaro ( Something the Klyros use to get the bones away from the fish they catch)
Trellta ( A Klyros nomad tent)
Eplytaro ( A small knife)
Niraga (Well that spits out "transformed" crystals)
Gerhana (Special seaweed walls Klyros use to screen off different zones indoor) http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/Belark/WallModel-pain-T.jpg
Gardion(A rock who is nicely shaped, with symbols)

ANIMALS

D'tarn (Big, big fish, 30-50 meter long, lives deep in the sea, lazy but it can be fast, natural enemy to the Orgast, if a D'tarn is killed and brought to land it can feed the people of a city for months)
Stax (deer with big horns, fast runner, Klyros hunt it)
Pteo (Fish, a small fish, it has a silvery color with streaks of blue)
Orgast (big shark, natural enemy to the D'tarn)
Erb (A frog?)
Astu (A plant like animal that can move on its roots,very beautiful, a female name)
Qheronner (Fish, very fast, big as an orca, 10 meters long)
Uinor (Small bear like animal, can swim)
Ialnor (Fish)
Nahadi (Reptile like alligator-cameleont)
Choria ( Fish, It' scales are coral like and it's about as big as a fat cat. It has small teeth but hundreds of them, it has got red and blue dots all over and it shines in the dark. It is very strong)
Cestergon ( Dog like animal)
Shazzer ( Fish with sharp things (a bit like a swordfish), a battle ship, it has a spike in the front wich it uses to ram other ships)

LANDSCAPE

Eptar's Crag (Crag, Eptar's point)
Eptar's point (High mountain, Eptar was a lord who died on the top of it in a storm)
Eklato Bay (A small bay)
Klypher Falls ( Giant waterfall)
Kolorian ( Grassland-place)
Levian ( Maybe the floating island?)
Xyanx (Maybe the floating Island?)

BUILDINGS

(INCA:)Also, if i properly understand Kixie, you can combine english words with klyros words. For example, "Mad Dancing Searban" - tavern in port.

Mad Dancing Searban ( Tavern)
The Black Stax (Tavern)
Bacu ( See above)
Klesstron (Maybe one of the "important" buildings)

All the other buildings like: Bank, storage, food store, item shop, harnquist.

NAMES

Optar (Male name)
Kloto Pleptaryen (Someone famous klyros)
Hapank (Fish-farmers name)
Exy ( Cute girl's name (by INCA, heh))
Extar, Extara (Twins; Brother and Sister)
Bax ( strong klyros-male name)
Klyhria (Female name)
Eplytaro (Surname)
Eopt ( Small fish, a minnow, a young Pteo, merchants name )
Astu (A plant like animal that can move on its roots,very beautiful, a female name)
Kleor (Male name)
Pitaro (Male name)
Qeron (Klyros hunter-name)
Axaro (Male name)
Ezz (Male name)
Ezzy (Female name)
Xordan (huh?)

The 11 Runners

Tealk Arto
Kint Raks
Eptar Ixtarto
Axara Lytah (Female?)
Bax Teroklainor
Ptar Qeron
Xintr Esquil
Orgast Plaxtor
Kleor Trayenks
Kloto Preptaryen
Ezz Pleptaryen
Extar Klypher

The Klyros Counsel

Extara Klypher
Hapank xallptar
Klyhria Esdrax
Vleptor Plkadia
Plaxtor Vleptorya

The Disbandment (A group of deserters)

Xazz Tradjenx
Ostal Dexorn
Minto xallptar
Trad Zhoptuvyar
Qynar (k’-why-nar)

J'ran (this means a Guardian. Every klyros leader had a special elite squad named J'ran squad. It number about 100 great warriors, their task was escorting klyros Leader in every trip, guarding town treasury and castle. Also they were a great vanguard of klyros army, they fought on the hardest places of battlefield and often played a decisive role in battle. They may be similar to japan samurais, but nevertheless they were considered as an equal to elders and no one could impinge to broke their own honor, even the leader.)





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Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Giind on June 05, 2006, 04:03:02 pm
How about a well that spits usuable stuff out if you put a crystal into it?

10 Ruby crystals = Sparkling ruby

10 Diamond crystals = Frozen tear

10 Emerald crystals = Perfectly formed emerald

The well should be named: Niraga
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 06, 2006, 03:07:35 am
   @ ARANGOL, good job attaching names to things, they all sound like they belong there. (IMHO)  :thumbup:
   
Ok I tried to put this together Dictionary style. If anyone has ideas for meanings, I will add them as we go along.
I have tried to add a few underwater words, but we can use many more. I guess underwater they would use lots of clicking sounds and high pitched sounds much like a dolphin or whale as Inca said earlier.
Let me know what you guys think, and I will keep working on smaller words and water and air words as well.


Almon
arbunknn
*Armuutriik – ( A glowing crystal on a staff)
Baxto
Darda
Diktaro
Desptar
Dexorn
Drakyny
Dunbar
Duxy
Doodry
Detarn
Detryll
Eeeawee - ( underwater cave )
Eeeawoo
Eslar
Espra
Esparto
Estlad
Estrax
Estraxto
Exr
Garaghna
Jaltry
Joxoron
J'porto
Jyptar
Jynxren
Kintr
KlkKlk – ( Klyros greeting ) pronounced ( click-click)
Klo
Klyhria
Minto
Mullollow – (mul-o-low)
Opt
Optar
Optarven
Ornex
Ostal
Plark
Plax
ptaryendor
PteoKloto – ( fish, hut )
Pteroklainor
Pteroxondor –
Qynar – (k’-why-nar)
Rintara
Riptar
Sptklk –( pronounced- sput click )
Sta –
Stull
tryptarto
Trad
Treltor – (A Klyros nomad tent maker)
Vleptorvyen – (pronounced( vle’ptor-vee-en ))
Xossdoronyan – ( zos-door-o-nee-an )
Xazz
Xintr
Xynax
Zambortyk
Zargorptaryan ( zar-gore-ptar-e-n )
Zhoptuvyar – ( zup-too-vee-are )




Water Related Names

Baldurion Ocean
Bondoral Ocean
Britlana Ocean
Capacious sea – (plentiful,abound,ample)
Heiranid Ocean.
Magnanimous sea – (bountiful)
Maqai Ocean
Melanquoin
Mosairon Ocean.
Piaqanon Ocean.
Pulchritudinous – ( beautiful)
Qironan Ocean
Tirinuan Ocean
Trianduon Ocean
Tirigadnon Ocean.


Over 70 words and growing  ;D
I think there is over 80 now   \\o//

If i missed any please let me know ty 

Edit: Updated and added new words June 8,
Edit: Updated June 9,
EDIT: june16, Added "runners/scouts"
EDIT: June 18 water names
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on June 06, 2006, 09:24:30 pm
Well, good moving, friends :D
Next thought of mine: i think that klyros language contains generally SHORT WORDS or words with simple syllables (ba-ku, sear-ban), because (imho) underwater and in flight nobody understand if they start to scream long complex words. Words short and simple as scream, exhalation, shot. So, because of this i dislike words like: Gerhanadion, Hapankorppu, klesstrontoryen,klesstronptarto, xossdoronyan, Ptarptarelyght,  etc.
Long words are surely prestented in Kly-language, but they are rare.

Next, i think many of unvoiced syllables (L, M, H, F, N...) are rare in use too. And cause of it the same - they are very un-hearing in those conditions... May be i'm wrong, correct me.

Some words sounds like they taken from Latin or Elven language: erfiie suun, iniu arbunknn, Inundium, Ialnor, Iniuor.

Ptarvyon River - good, but i think two unvowels in the beginning brakes the pronunciation of whole word. I suggest to delete one of'em--> like Tarvyon or something. ---> How then city will be called - Ontarvyon? :D

If you agree with my comments, just don't erase "wrong" names--> try to modify them.

Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 06, 2006, 10:20:37 pm
I agree Inca, the klyro's would not use a lot of multi sylable words. I was trying to go for a more majestic word, or powerfull. For every day language, i agree most words will be one to 2 sylables. There can be however non Krylon name as you have said before, these can based on either the language of the race that found it or named by Laanx or Talad.
Here is what i was thinking in regards to the "PT" found in many of my sugested Krylon words. I hope i can explain this right. Since the Klyro's can speak in and out of water, i think they would have developed a distinct way of speach after hundres of years of development. With a water tight mouth, i believe whenever they open it they would make a poping sound " P ". This sound would be heard in most of thier spoken language. The spelling of such words were writen down by other races listening to the Klyro's and trying to match the way they sound. So i believe there should be much more abrupt letter paterns to truly match the sound of the Klyro's spoken word.

This is just my way of looking at it, but whatever you decide is good for me  :)
sory for any spelling errors :-[
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 06, 2006, 10:52:47 pm
Good idea, mate. I think poppong sounds should be more frequent, also they would sound more like the african which, more then anyone in the world, are nomads so that would fit in to the picture.
Let's see, followed by "gulp" and "cough"? ;)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 07, 2006, 08:01:52 am
OK, thanks for the advise everyone, I'll go trough my list and modify those who are COMPLETELY wrong.

@LARAGORN: Thanks for putting them in order. But I see names that aren't in my list so I'll try to add them too.

@Inca: That was very good advise, thanks.

@Baldur: Poppong?
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 07, 2006, 02:52:23 pm
If you mean a certain language with "pop" sounds then yes.

Gerhana-(special seaweed walls Klyros use to screen off different zones indoor) http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f78/Belark/WallModel-pain-T.jpg
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 07, 2006, 05:41:46 pm
Updated list.
Ok, just post names now and I'll try to add them to the list  ;D
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: rast on June 07, 2006, 06:56:53 pm
great work everyone :)
Shazzer - ( Fish with sharp things)
(http://img330.imageshack.us/img330/3776/shazzer1wd.th.jpg) (http://img330.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shazzer1wd.jpg)
 ;)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 07, 2006, 07:01:37 pm
I have also redone my list and added some smaller words. I have added most of the definitions that i saw in your posts, some i am not sure of so i have'nt added or changed some of the words.

Keep those words and definitions comin guys  :D

I cant wait to see some of the fish and other critters >o)

Me likes you fish Rast  \\o//
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 07, 2006, 07:38:02 pm
Hmm Laragorn I think it's not good to have 2 lists so I think we should merge our lists somehow.
Everyone: What is the best way to have a list, the dictionary style or the one with different groups.
It's not a competition on who's list is best, I think it's just better to do a good list that people can read in, not to have 2 separate lists.
What do you think?
Of course we could have this kind of list and just update them both.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 07, 2006, 07:48:25 pm
I could remove the names from my list as they are added to yours. Mine can be for undefined words and yours for defined. That way there will be no double lists.
 The words and definitions we are still debating will be left on the dictionary style list, and the agreed upon words will go on the grouped list.

If you like this idea let me know  :D
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on June 07, 2006, 09:46:20 pm
About List features: i think that list with different specified groups is more usefull, but inside groups it can be in Dictionary style for better order. Also, try to distinguish (bold font) those words which are most of us like and accepted (baku, searban, choria...)(may be just words, not descriptions).
I agree with Laragorn: first Arangol's List can be An Approved Names List (even for 70% approved words),so the Laragorn's one will be Names-In-Developing List (with logic Dictionary style). The problem i see that we have small activity in this thread (except you, friends). If so, you must not affraid to approve the best names by yourself. I'll help you as much as i can.

Next, i will itemize names i like from each List (# - means i don't like description):
ARANGOL'S LIST:

Ergain, Baku, Kryptaro (#, big swamp tree), Rangoroi, Kleor (#, male name), Shegenriz (#, sharp weapon), Searban (#, katamaran), Trellta, Astu (may be female name too), Choria, Eptar's point (may be Eptar's Crag), Pitaro (male name), Mad Dancing Searban,

Suggest to modify: Alhava, Girahna, Irgon, Xalkaro, Eplytaro (#, surname), Niraga , Eopt (may be merchant name too), Cestergon, Shazzer (may be big battle ship too), Eklato Bay, Klypher Falls, Korian (too similar to Choria), Klyhria (#, female name).

hmm, Arangol, clear your list from similar words (like Ergain-Argoin-Irgon; Girahna-Gerhana).
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LARAGORN LIST:  
Bax (strong klyros-male name), Ekeelatojujusmee (#, if it's a rum then call it just "Ekeel"),Extar and Extara (twins: sister and brother), Esorta (lance or klyros clothes (shirt)), Esquil (dish-food), Exy (cute girl's name :), Hapank (fish-farmer name),Kloto Pleptaryen (someone famous klyros), Optar (male name), Orgast (big shark), Pteo fish, Qeron (klyros-hunter name), Stax (animal), Wiargoa, Wiargona.

Suggest to modify: Axptaro->Axaro(male name), Es->Ezz (male\female name), Gerdion.

And don't forget that your main task to find better names for Klyros City, and not to invent klyros language. I think it's important. Minetus, can you post a new map (not 3d model) here? Guys, if you make quick plan of town with streets, key points (Eptar's point, tavern) on this map - things will advanced much further.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: minetus on June 07, 2006, 10:07:26 pm
this is the same has what i got in the other thread
Code: [Select]
[b]The Landscape map[/b]

Map(Region) name: ? ? ?

Latest Version:
[url=http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=coast062as.jpg][img]http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1428/coast062as.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Color description:
[table]
[tr][td]1:[/td][td]Reef,low water[/td][td]2:[/td][td]Deep water[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3:[/td][td]Stalagtites[/td][td]4:[/td][td]Rock formations, Cliffs[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5:[/td][td]Sand, Beach area[/td][td]6:[/td][td]Plains, Forest, Green areas[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]7:[/td][td]Roads[/td][td]8:[/td][td]Houses[/td][/tr]
[/table]
*insert map sector description here*
*example:* ** A0 : Deep sea, the sea bottom has some small rock formations and algae, but is mainly sand. There are some small fishs swimming around.**

The Landscape map

Map(Region) name: ? ? ?

Latest Version:
(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1428/coast062as.th.jpg) (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=coast062as.jpg)

Color description:
1:Reef,low water2:Deep water
3:Stalagtites4:Rock formations, Cliffs
5:Sand, Beach area6:Plains, Forest, Green areas
7:Roads8:Houses
*insert map sector description here*
*example:* ** A0 : Deep sea, the sea bottom has some small rock formations and algae, but is mainly sand. There are some small fishs swimming around.**
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Kixie on June 08, 2006, 12:23:58 am
Quote from: Inca Sator Ekeelatojujusmee (#, if it's a rum then call it just "Ekeel")
[quote
Blasphemy! You can't shorten Ekeelatojujusmee. That's the whole point behind the name! The saying goes, if you can't say it 3 times fast, you've had enough and are immediately escorted out of the bar.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 08, 2006, 12:34:06 am
Quote from: Inca Sator Ekeelatojujusmee (#, if it's a rum then call it just "Ekeel")
[quote
Blasphemy! You can't shorten Ekeelatojujusmee. That's the whole point behind the name! The saying goes, if you can't say it 3 times fast, you've had enough and are immediately escorted out of the bar.
..by the funny men in the white suits.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 08, 2006, 03:04:21 am
@ Arangol;    
   If you could add Inca’s Suggestions from the section aimed at me to your list, I will remove and change the rest of mine. If you can add a personal names section that would be great, as Inca pointed out there are a few perfect for individual names. If I change or add a description I like, I will add an * in front of it, this means for you to add it to your list ok. Any ideas you have let me know.


 Ekeelatojujusmee, Ekeelatojujasmee, Ekeeloptarjusmee  Shoot ???

How about a "Name Klyro City" contest ?  I'll donate 5000 tria
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on June 08, 2006, 08:35:40 am
Minetus, do you have .cdr file of actua; map? Can you post it? I find the one here http://esnips.com/doc/bce46ba1-aa52-404f-9a55-ccae126d5c56/coast---02.cdr, but it's already outdated.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: dying_inside on June 08, 2006, 08:43:38 am
Quote from: Inca Sator Ekeelatojujusmee (#, if it's a rum then call it just "Ekeel")
[quote
Blasphemy! You can't shorten Ekeelatojujusmee. That's the whole point behind the name! The saying goes, if you can't say it 3 times fast, you've had enough and are immediately escorted out of the bar.

I'm stone cold sober and I cant say that even once!
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 08, 2006, 09:54:12 am
UPDATING LIST......................................

Laragorn: I'll add those definitions, everyone of them. Klyros name contest 50k from here! /me check the inventory --one small rat eye-- ooops. Maybe just 20k.

Inca: You want the map file *.obj?

Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on June 08, 2006, 10:02:02 am
No, Arangol, .cdr file from CorelDraw. If anyone have this program, then you have very usefull tool to add to the map streets, houses, etc with abidance of scales.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 08, 2006, 10:24:40 am
Ah ok. You have luck, cause I got Corel draw  :D .
Sadly, I'm no pro.

Namelist-updated with both of the suggestions (my and LARAGORN'S).
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 08, 2006, 05:42:08 pm
@ Arangol
   These are a few that aren’t on your list. Did you miss them or do you not agree with them. I changed the spelling of a couple like Inca suggested. Let me know so I know how to adjust the undecided list.

*Alava - (An oak like tree, it's always hollow inside)
*Astuto lake
*Blyston canal
*Eplar - lake
*Escogg Reef
*Ialnor - (Fish, a very long slender fish, with leather like skin, used for making belts and such, it tastes bland and bitter)
*Kloto Pleptaryen - The first Klyron to explore the flying island
*kryptarto – a canal
*Oxlar- personal name
*Plaxata – Beach
*Qeron way – a side canal in the city (klyros-hunter name)
*Qheronner - (Fish, very fast, big as an orca, 10 meters long)
*Tarven steam

I would also like to here everyones top three picks for City names from what we have.

Edit: added around 10 or so new words to list
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: minetus on June 08, 2006, 09:46:47 pm
updated corel draw map file : http://esnips.com/doc/dc64be6f-c1fa-447d-ae63-c1e8e3e9ecac/coast---06.cdr
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 09, 2006, 06:55:53 am
Laragorn:

Alava, got it already before, canged the name to "Alhava".
Astuton Lake, adding
Blyston canal, adding
Eplar, adding
Escogg reef, adding
Ialnor, adding
Kloto Pleptaryen, got it before
Kryptarto, same name, other description
Oxlar, adding
Plaxata, adding
Qeron Way, adding
Qherroner, got it from before
Tarven stem, adding

EDIT: Added them all ^

I'll add the 10 new words.
Eh, no, didn't have time, just edited some descriptions and added a few words.
I think I'll add them in a few hours
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on June 09, 2006, 10:57:46 am
Next, i will itemize words i don't like (think they are out from klyros language) from each List(i marked with wich part of word i don't agree):
ARANGOL'S LIST:
Iyolda, Inundium, Ba, Argoin (tooo similar to Ergain), Xerojentyl, Harzgloto, Erb (it's not name for bird, it's a frog name :), Iniuor (can you do a transcription?), Gerhanadion, Klyperion, Drunk Fisherman (toooo simple).

LARAGORN'S LIST  (Hmm, i like many of your new words, but):
Armoontrik, Duudry,D'tarn (why we need apostrophe?-->Detarn), Eee’aw’ee, Eee’aw’oo (?), erfiie suun, Eslayr, Esp (spain domain?), Exr (tooo short), Garaghna (something similar, searching internet...), iniu arbunknn, KlkKlk (can you say that by yourself?), Mullhollow (this are two english words), ptaryendor, Shazzptor, Sptklk (?), vleptorvyen, xossdoronyan, zargorptaryan, zhoptuvyar (:D moreover, it is very funny sounds in russian, heh).

I suggest not to use many(4-5) un-vowels (qrtpsdfghklzxcvbnm) one after the other . Any comments?
I think we already have enough words/names to start "City-naming". Go-go-go!!!
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 09, 2006, 11:03:16 am
As soon as I find Arangol's list i'll figure something out.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 09, 2006, 11:12:44 am
Next, i will itemize words i don't like (think they are out from klyros language) from each List(i marked with wich part of word i don't agree):
ARANGOL'S LIST:
 Erb (it's not name for bird, it's a frog name :)  Hey, I just took it from...eh was it Baldur?  ;D
 Drunk Fisherman (toooo simple). Don't be so harsh. Every town needs a drunk fisherman tavern.  :o

I'll fix it in an hour.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 09, 2006, 11:19:59 am

ARANGOL'S LIST:
 Erb (it's not name for bird, it's a frog name :)  Hey, I just took it from...eh was it Baldur?  ;D

I'll fix it in an hour.

/me attempts to swallow Arangol whole
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 09, 2006, 11:51:10 am
Never try that at home kids.

Fixed list.
But I still think that the Drunk Fisherman was a good name.


Yes, we will, we will name a tavern to that when Inca is nowhere to be seen...
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 09, 2006, 07:32:03 pm
@ Arangol;
Alava, got it already before, changed the name to "Alhava". -  Alhava was the original; Inca didn’t like it so I dropped the H.
“Kloto Pleptaryen, got it before” – Just gave him his claim to fame  :D
 “Qherroner, got it from before” - I just changed the description a little that’s all

Treltor – (A Klyros nomad tent maker)   A skill or job

@ Inca
   I agree with most of your choices and have changed them. I have also tried my best pronounce a few you didn’t like (they all sounded good in my head  ;D ). It is hard trying to make underwater language make sense on the page.
   I guess the map naming will have to be Arangols area, unless I get Corel draw  :(.

I would still like everyone’s top three pick for the “City name”, then Arangol and I can narrow them down to 2 or 3, so we have a better chance at picking the right one.



Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 09, 2006, 07:52:02 pm
I would still like everyone’s top three pick for the “City name”, then Arangol and I can narrow them down to 2 or 3, so we have a better chance at picking the right one.
Tealk
Qeron
Sitarin
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on June 09, 2006, 07:54:38 pm
What we shouldn't to try, Arangol?
If you insist, in the name of Laanx, Goddees blesses the name "Drunk Fisherman" and gives a behest to name even though one bar or tavern with such title in every town. Ta-da!!! :D
Whithout joking, i prefer more creative style, for example title "Drunk Fisherman Woody" or "The Last Drunk Fisherman" or "Drunk Fisherman Hospice" or "Frunk Disherman" :D What do you think, friend?
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 09, 2006, 08:02:27 pm
What we shouldn't to try, Arangol?
If you insist, in the name of Laanx, Goddees blesses the name "Drunk Fisherman" and gives a behest to name even though one bar or tavern with such title in every town. Ta-da!!! :D
Whithout joking, i prefer more creative style, for example title "Drunk Fisherman Woody" or "The Last Drunk Fisherman" or "Drunk Fisherman Hospice" or "Frunk Disherman" :D What do you think, friend?

Ment no offence.

" QERON "  Home of the Frunk Disherman
Warm beer and lousy food !!
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/LARAGORN/k045.gif)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 09, 2006, 08:07:42 pm
"*Queron* Home of the Frunk Fisherman, clean plates and warm beer"
 /me ponders what "Dish of the day" is
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 10, 2006, 08:27:57 am
 ;D

Ok I suppose it could be "The Very Drunk Fisherman"?

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Otherwise I would go for "Kada-El's Tavern", what do you say?

EDIT:
My 3 names for the city:

Deranul (DE-RA-NUL)
Faolien (FA-I-LIEN)
Ciemen (KJE-MEN)

MAP:
(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2466/map31cy.th.jpg) (http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=map31cy.jpg)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: minetus on June 10, 2006, 01:31:15 pm
edit: wrong place
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 10, 2006, 08:25:22 pm
@ Arangol; Inca gave the  :thumbup: to the drunk fisherman.
Good job on the map names, I see you came up with a few of your own names in there. As for the name of the island, my chioce would be "Xynax".
But that is just my choice. ;D
The Island is a important place so i think we need to hear from everybody for its name.


Ok here is what we have so far of peoples picks for the "City Name"

Tealk
Qeron
Sitarin

Deranul (DE-RA-NUL)
Faolien (FA-I-LIEN)
Ciemen (KJE-MEN)

Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 11, 2006, 07:49:38 am
@ Arangol; Inca gave the  :thumbup: to the drunk fisherman.

Got it, lol, I'm just joking.

Post names now, it can't be that hard to write down 3 names?
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 11, 2006, 10:18:21 am
Check back n the map Inca med in the main topic and you will see that the graveyard/aka Battlefield is a bit misoplaced. I was trhinking an arid, unwelcoming arid landscape in the days and a ghastly experience with azure fires in the nights(floating fires=souls?)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 11, 2006, 10:28:05 am
Ok, I'll fix it and those fires where a good idea. Different colored fires for different kind of soul, like- red= brave soul, black = dark soul and the bigger the fire is the more important the soul is.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on June 11, 2006, 01:06:08 pm
So, we have three rivers on Arangol's map: Ontarvyon (huh, i supposed it as City name:D-- City On Tarvyon river), The river of Sitarin (could we just call it Sitarin?) and ...Inuarion. I like all of'em, may be first one could be little re-modified. What do you think, guys? Two of rivers fall into Eklato bay: Ontarvyon and Sitarin. City name can be a combination of this words - Sytarvion/Sitarvyon or it can be the name of Port District. Or the name of city can be dedicated to Those Great Battle and heroic act of Klyron race.
I place the battlefield on the most highest part of map - this will attach to this memorable place extra-meanings and features: the Pike of War, the Edge of War, Apotheosis of War. I think the last Battle run through the whole territory on map, but the finall combat was happened on those mauntain place i marked. Arangol called this place "Kolorian" - the Grassland. I think this is a great name for Algae farms lowland area, not for battlefield place.
P.S. Add one more klyros name to the List: Xordan ;) check this http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=21466.msg235506#msg235506
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 11, 2006, 01:53:46 pm
Ok, I'll change my map.

Xordan, sounds familiar...Nah, I'll add it  :P

New map:
(http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5591/map40fj.th.jpg) (http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=map40fj.jpg)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 11, 2006, 02:09:23 pm
About the battlefield me and Kixie was thinking 5 elementals would attack, named after minerals and metals, either the Klyros would fight them or a god, perhaps Talad(maybe Laanx but i''m critical at this point).

The fist of an elemental thrown towards Talad/Laanx would've been imbued to stay in air and since then no one's bothered to take it down, so there's our floating island. The great powers that ripped the landscape apart could give life to wisps of some sort, pure entities of enerrgy. These could replace the souls we were talking about which, when I think of it, were a bit wage to play a role in the dead zone.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 11, 2006, 03:30:03 pm
Hmm, that would explain it good, instead of the power-fist, and we could still have a big battle Klyros vs. Other races/monsters.

Added Xordan  ;)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 11, 2006, 09:33:41 pm
OK since there are many areas of importance here, i dont think a simple name will do it justice. We do have a lot of good names for certain areas, that represent them well.
This whole area could be known as " The District of SYTAR"
This way it will pull all things together,  Sytarvion/Sitarvyon are take offs of the district name. We could add more to link them all together.
Sytarendor
Sytarvator
Sytarato
Sytarxynax
I think you get the point.

I still like "Xynax" for the Floating Island, if you dont use it i may have to do this
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/LARAGORN/bigpunch.gif)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 11, 2006, 10:30:04 pm
/me thinks Laragorn is crazy in love with smileys
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Kixie on June 12, 2006, 02:41:00 am
EDIT: I'm going to post the story for better comprehension. I'll edit in any names we get cemented down.
Alrighty kids, HUGE REQUEST!

I'm finished writing a very large portion of the Klyrosian Lore, but I need YOUR help! There is much confusion about what is officially what, so I need help to what will be the official names in the story. They can be edited later of course, and right now I am using many names from the map. However, before I print I'd like you to come up with revisional names to be set in stone, and names for things not yet brought to light. I will go on now.


Klyrosian tongues for People:
Laanx
11 great athletes known as, "The Runners"
The Klyros Counsel
Talad
The Colossus/Sentinel
The Disbandment (A group of deserters)
The Klyros who made it to Ylakium
Endukai
Lemur
Xacha
Dwarves
Ylians
Dermorians
Diaboli

Klyrosian tongues for Places:
The Stone Labyrinth
Laanx's portal
The great lake beneath the stalactite
Ylakium
Eklato Bay
Diriadion Lake
Astuto  and Eptar lake
Inuarion and Ergain rivers
Floating Island (now known as Levian Island)

Klyrosian Events:
The Dirge of Deep Bleeding
The Theft of Laanx power
THE AGES OF HIBERNATION
THE TIME OF DARK
THE TIME OF POWER
THE TIME OF PREPERATION
THE WAR OF LAANX
THE HARVESTING
THE AGES OF AWAKENING
THE GREAT PILGRIMAGE
THE BATTLE OF THE COLOSSUS
The raining Talad brought after defeating colossus.

And... that's it I think. Add some names, I'll pick from the best.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 13, 2006, 08:03:50 pm
@KIXIE
 If you look at Arangols list it is suposed to be the list of names and places that we have accepted. My list is the possibility list, for new ideas.

EDIT: I missunderstood :-[
Here are the "runners" ( or as i call them the "Scouts")
11 great athletes known as, "The Runners" – Ptar Qeron, Tealk Typtarto, Xintr Esquil, Orgast Plaxtor, Kleor Tradjenx, Kintr xallptar, Eptar Extaro, Kloto Pleptaryen,
Axaro Eplytaro, Ezz Pleptaryen, Bax Pteroklainor, Extar Klypher.

The Klyros Counsel – Extara Klypher, Hapank xallptar, Klyhria Esdrax, Vleptor Plkadia, Plaxtor Vleptorya, and more

The Disbandment (A group of deserters) - Xazz Tradjenx, Ostal Dexorn, Minto xallptar,  Trad Zhoptuvyar,

Qynar – (k’-why-nar)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on June 14, 2006, 08:58:10 pm
Laragorn, do you feel enjoy as i? A great satisfaction of what have we done :D These are not just simple names - it's a poetry :D
...
Akhmm, without lyrics, i suggest to little bit modify:
Tealk Typtarto-->Tealk Arto; Kintr Xallptar-->Kint Raks;
Eptar Extaro-->Eptar Ixtaro; Axaro Eplytaro-->Axara Lytah (female);
Bax Pteroklainor--> Bax Teroklainor.

Don't understand me wrong, i don't want just to paste my 3 trias, i think with this modifications (or substitutions) this name will be more easy and pleasant for saying, hearing and reading.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 14, 2006, 09:31:03 pm
No offence taken in the least, I am just happy to be involved at all. :thumbup:

The changes are good ones. All of my suggestions are just that, suggestions. Stepping stones if you will.


In the end I will be able to say, I had a very very small hand in the creation of the best online game in the world.  \\o//


@Arongol, if you can add those names above to your list that would be great :)   Thank you
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 14, 2006, 09:59:04 pm
Working out great here, mates. Good job, especially Laragorn always filled with raw ideas and Inca for the poke stick to stick'em to where they belong ;)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on June 15, 2006, 12:07:06 am
If no one noticed, Baldur found beautiful name for ocean - Nibenay. I love it very mach, can we approve it?
About floating island name: we have two suggestions - Levian and Xynax. First one is definitely rooted to "levitation"(so, i don't like simple modifications of english words, cause it's toooo simple), the second one... It could be, but, as for me, i have some strange associations with insects...May be it's just my subjective thoughts...
If we approved Kixie story then this Floating Island in fact - a huge boulder that represented itself a part of the head of Grievous Sentinel. This boulder was the last stroke of dying colossus toward Talad. So, this flying rock already have a great it's own history, can we use it for creating it's name?

What was the name of Sentinel?
--J'ran - this means a Guardian. Every klyros leader had a special elite squad named J'ran squad. It number about 100 great warriors, their task was escorting klyros Leader in every trip, guarding town treasury and castle. Also they were a great vanguard of klyros army, they fought on the hardest places of battlefield and often played a decisive role in battle. They may be similar to japan samurais, but nevertheless they were considered as an equal to elders and no one could impinge to broke their own honor, even the leader.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Kixie on June 15, 2006, 02:14:38 am
First or Last names carried onto decendents? Sons and fathers (or even some other radically different form with a patriarchal society?) share which name, if any?
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 15, 2006, 03:31:11 am
First or Last names carried onto decendents? Sons and fathers (or even some other radically different form with a patriarchal society?) share which name, if any?
maybe we could use the "arto" and "tor" to be "son of"


As for the island if we could come up with some thing that would simbolize or mean "Home of the J'ran"
KlotoJ'ran or something along those lines.

Yay for Nibenay
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 15, 2006, 07:48:09 am
What? I did? I thought you'd already come up with it, this smell's fishy, i'll have to make a google search to make sure we're not taking any copyright ;D

Sorry, guys. My subconscious played me a trick and added an ocean which already exists in Oblivion's World, Cyrodiil. We'll have to come up with something else, though more elegant. Because of that i'll try figure it some today.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 15, 2006, 06:17:44 pm
@Baldur, maybe you should get some sleep  ;D

If we still need a name for the ocean or sea, maybe we can name it after the Great battle in some way. Since the Titan came from the sea, why not that...
"The Titan Sea", “Waters of the Titan”,” Sea of the Damned”
Or when the Klyros first saw the Titan coming, the sea was glowing, this image was etched in their minds. Thus "The Red Sea",”The Sapphire Sea”, “The Crimson Ocean”

Edit; OOPS :-[
it isnt Titan it should be The Colossus/Sentinel
so.... The Colossul Sea, Sentinal Sea,

Edit:
I did a little thesourus check and here is what i found;

Main Entry:     battle   
Part of Speech:     noun 1   
Definition:     fight   
Synonyms:     action, assault, attack, barrage, blitzkrieg, bloodshed, bombing, brush, campaign, carnage, clash, combat, conflict, contention, crusade, encounter, engagement, fighting, fray, havoc, hostilities, hostility, onset, onslaught, press, ravage, scrimmage, skirmish, sortie, strife, struggle, war, warfare

i really like "Blitzkrieg" This would be a great name for the Island, since it was made from a great battle.

The Disbandment (A group of deserters) - Xazz Tradjenx, Ostal Dexorn, Minto xallptar,  Trad Zhoptuvyar,
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 15, 2006, 08:24:33 pm
Laragorn, you know that's a tactic first performed by the germans in WW2? It worked like this: The army performed under utter silence until one day when they did a big streak and took their opponent by suprise, often used by airplanes.

Blitzkrieg doesn't fit it cause 1) It's a German name, even english names are prohibited 2) WW2 was an elongated battle stretchng out for decades, this only lasted for 10h's. 3) It really doesn't fit that a floating isle should be named after a tactic where the only tactic was to bomb innocent city's as fast as possible, doesn't leave a peaceful mark really.4) Blitzkrieg was performed in WW2(possibly WW1)across enormous battlefields, our fight is in a stalactite, puny to the scale of the former battlegrounds. This war was fought on 2 fronts.

Reconsider this as this tactic was more of a terrorist tactic then fair battle.

More names!
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on June 15, 2006, 11:40:00 pm
Blitzkrieg was the name of plan accordingly wich the german fascists armies supposed to conquer Russia at the beginning of WW2, it started at 22 of july of 1941 and Hytler thought that he capture my Motherland at two-three weeks. It was elaborate plan of instantaneous war, but it was broken because of heroic and selfless resistance of russian frontier troops and our western armies. We lost hundreds of thousands people during this operation (and it was mainly fault of leadership  of Russia, cause their were not prepare for evident German attack)....
Ok, it was just history enquiry. As intention "Blitzkrieg" matched the Sentinell attack plan, but how it can be connected to floating island which is the part of Sentinel head,Laragorn?
About the name of ocean. This ocean was evidently named long before klyros entered the Yliakim by other race (Nolthrir, Ylians, Diaboly,Krans or others), so don't even try to invent klyros name for it. Nibenay was very beautifull and universal name, so we must to think up of such functional and flexible name.
--Medllaquion ocean
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 16, 2006, 01:30:02 am
Blitzkrieg was the name of plan accordingly wich the german fascists armies supposed to conquer Russia at the beginning of WW2, it started at 22 of july of 1941 and Hytler thought that he capture my Motherland at two-three weeks. It was elaborate plan of instantaneous war, but it was broken because of heroic and selfless resistance of russian frontier troops and our western armies. We lost hundreds of thousands people during this operation (and it was mainly fault of leadership  of Russia, cause their were not prepare for evident German attack)....
Ok, it was just history enquiry. As intention "Blitzkrieg" matched the Sentinell attack plan, but how it can be connected to floating island which is the part of Sentinel head,Laragorn?
About the name of ocean. This ocean was evidently named long before klyros entered the Yliakim by other race (Nolthrir, Ylians, Diaboly,Krans or others), so don't even try to invent klyros name for it. Nibenay was very beautifull and universal name, so we must to think up of such functional and flexible name.
--Medllaquion ocean

I meant no offence in the choice of name for the island.
As you can see by this ignorant choice of words, my history is very poor, when it comes to WW2. Now that I know the history behind the word, I apologize for my suggestion.
I was looking for a word that meant, and symbolized Battle or warfare. The Island was created from a fierce and brutal fight, which many Klyros died. This Ideology behind the name was only to represent the dramatic loss and suffering the Klyros endured through out this battle.

The name of the ocean was a misunderstanding. I thought from Baldur’s last post he thought the name “Nibenay” was taken.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 16, 2006, 07:22:14 am
I've been away on a small vacation (2 days) but now I'm back -- Updated the list.

Inca: This is what I think Medllaquion Ocean -->  Melanquion Ocean

And Nibenay was already taken, huh?

Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 16, 2006, 07:27:20 am
Maqai Ocean
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 16, 2006, 07:43:20 am
Melanquoin --> Melanqai ?

Easier to say (under water/high up in the air) and shorter to write for the one in the settings departement.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 16, 2006, 07:47:46 am
As said before, it shouldn't be adapted after Klyran language, it should be a name that someone has given the Ocean before. It doesn't have to be Klyro's friendly like "Nibenay Ocean", we're simply trying to find a more beautiful name.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 16, 2006, 07:53:17 am
What about Tirinuan Ocean/ Trianduon Ocean?
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 16, 2006, 05:19:48 pm
That's more lke it ;) Work on that.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 16, 2006, 05:38:19 pm
Qynar – (k’-why-nar), Britlana Ocean, Bondoral Ocean, Pulchritudinous
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 16, 2006, 05:49:44 pm
Artin Bay/Sea, Ardel Ocean/Bay, Weygon Bay/Ocean
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 17, 2006, 09:17:07 am
Tirigadnon Ocean.
Mosairon Ocean.
Heiranid Ocean.
Qironan Ocean.
Piaqanon Ocean.
Baldurion Ocean.

Damn you Tolkien! You took all the good names!

I wanted it to be Hobbit Ocean.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 18, 2006, 07:25:40 pm
I have modified my list again. I have added Water names.
I'll keep adding when they are posted.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 18, 2006, 08:09:43 pm
Tirigadnon Ocean.
Mosairon Ocean.
Heiranid Ocean.
Qironan Ocean.
Piaqanon Ocean.
Baldurion Ocean.

Damn you Tolkien! You took all the good names!

I wanted it to be Hobbit Ocean.
"In the Hobbit ocean rose a giant" ;D
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 19, 2006, 11:18:24 am
Updated my list aswell.
EDIT: I didn't take all the names here, but I tried to take all the names I could say loud.
And Laragorn, please don't include Hobbit Ocean in your list.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 19, 2006, 05:14:40 pm
Updated my list aswell.
EDIT: I didn't take all the names here, but I tried to take all the names I could say loud.
And Laragorn, please don't include Hobbit Ocean in your list.
But i though that was your fave :))
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 19, 2006, 05:20:56 pm
/me snickers smugly
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 19, 2006, 06:16:40 pm
I went through the list again and here is my top pic;

Bondoral Ocean

I do think it sounds better as Bondoral Sea, but ocean is good too.
I forget who came up with it  :( but i really like it  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 19, 2006, 06:36:41 pm
Hmm, it still sounds a bit cheesy, could we get some remakes of this? Otherwise I think it's a probable name.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 21, 2006, 03:58:12 pm
It sounds a bit dull, but with a bit help from Inca we'll get it  :D
Here are some changes that maybe can be an option:

Bondoral --> Bondorai
Bondoral --> Bondorian
Bondoral --> Bonidoral
Bondoral --> B'ondoral
Bondoral --> Bondor
Bondoral --> Brondoran

Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 21, 2006, 04:28:44 pm
Bondorian me likes!
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: TestLab on June 21, 2006, 05:06:44 pm
Boldorian Ocean (hehe a bold ocean)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 21, 2006, 05:29:18 pm
Bondorian me likes!

I could get used to that. If every one agrees lets keep it.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: TestLab on June 21, 2006, 05:33:34 pm
I'm Bond, Bond Orian :P

Sounds good to me (hehe)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 21, 2006, 05:36:56 pm
Lol, that's one big change we'll have to make, Testlab :P You could always convince us by coming up with a good and original name :)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: TestLab on June 21, 2006, 05:46:50 pm
You could always convince us by coming up with a good and original name :)

Bffff, U talking to the wrong person then :)

Let me think. I can only try to give a Spanish Flavour to your last recommendation

Bondorrio (Bodorrio means very big/expensive wedding in spanish)



Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 21, 2006, 05:49:26 pm
You could always convince us by coming up with a good and original name :)

Bffff, U talking to the wrong person then :)

Let me think. I can only try to give a Spanish Flavour to your last recommendation

Bondorrio (Bodorrio means very big/expensive wedding in spanish)




Lol. then that's not it ;D
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: TestLab on June 21, 2006, 06:02:37 pm
Will get more serious now.

Been reading the 7 pages of the thread and I'm a bit lost here. I know some stuff has gone trough but other hasn't. What's left ? Just the Ocean ?

Also, what's this ocean supposed to be like ? big, small ? where abouts ? Sorry for repeated questions. If u can point a finger in where to look at I'll have a look.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 21, 2006, 06:13:35 pm
Many of the thingd we've made've been named, you could come up with new words and new meanings. A tip is you follow Arangol's list and make different yet similar words(By that I mean dialectal, langual-like words.)

You could come up with more fish species, I've recently done the Shazzer but i've got a bone-plate armored fish which still's called Ialnor(fish). We also need a selection of building names, streets. Try to make the street/city names a mix of English and "original" names(ex: Shazzer Street.) We've still only begun to come up with the names, we're expecting a far more wide flora and fauna so get creative and create some new species, Good luck! :)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 21, 2006, 10:38:49 pm
Will get more serious now.

Been reading the 7 pages of the thread and I'm a bit lost here. I know some stuff has gone trough but other hasn't. What's left ? Just the Ocean ?

Also, what's this ocean supposed to be like ? big, small ? where abouts ? Sorry for repeated questions. If u can point a finger in where to look at I'll have a look.

If you look at Arongols list on page 2, it shows what has been approved other than the ocean part.
If you look at my list, just below his, it is a list of possibilities. anything you come up with will be added to my list until it is approved, then it will be added to Arangols. :)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 22, 2006, 07:14:51 am
Yup, I just added the Ocean names that SOUNDED good.
Bondorian Ocean? I think we'll have to ask Inca here (as always...) but it sounds good and I think we could add a nice meaning to it like, Bondorian Ocean = The ocean of fish.
Not sure about it.

Will get more serious now.

Been reading the 7 pages of the thread and I'm a bit lost here. I know some stuff has gone trough but other hasn't. What's left ? Just the Ocean ?

Also, what's this ocean supposed to be like ? big, small ? where abouts ? Sorry for repeated questions. If u can point a finger in where to look at I'll have a look.

This ocean is an ocean where a colossus/giant fell in, Talad appeared, world was changed, blahblahbla, that kinda stuff. Look at this section of our project:

Klyros City Project: The Klyros Tale
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23739.0

Here is the whole story written by Kixie.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 22, 2006, 07:28:42 am
Yup, I just added the Ocean names that SOUNDED good.
Bondorian Ocean? I think we'll have to ask Inca here (as always...) but it sounds good and I think we could add a nice meaning to it like, Bondorian Ocean = The ocean of fish.
Not sure about it.

Will get more serious now.

Been reading the 7 pages of the thread and I'm a bit lost here. I know some stuff has gone trough but other hasn't. What's left ? Just the Ocean ?

Also, what's this ocean supposed to be like ? big, small ? where abouts ? Sorry for repeated questions. If u can point a finger in where to look at I'll have a look.

This ocean is an ocean where a colossus/giant fell in, Talad appeared, world was changed, blahblahbla, that kinda stuff. Look at this section of our project:

Klyros City Project: The Klyros Tale
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23739.0

Here is the whole story written by Kixie.
Coming to think of it, I know we can do better. We already have a nice name, let's see if we can make it better by remaking it once more. Any suggestions to how we should change Bondorian Sea into something beautiful?

Bondorion, Bendarion, Binderion
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 22, 2006, 05:05:20 pm
Bondimany
Bondamy
Bordani
Borreal
??????
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 22, 2006, 06:28:22 pm
Borreal, haven't I heard it from before :P
If I get what I want we could name the sea Borreal Ocean. Very good, Laragorn :flowers: :love:
I searched through Wikipedia and the name's not there though Google lists some companies and universities on Boreal.

Guess we'll have to return to our original name, thanks for the additional names, Laragorn.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 23, 2006, 08:57:01 am
I'll try to add some changes to Bondorian Ocean.
Boindarian
Barandarian
Berdarian

And what about changing the first letter:

Londorian
Dondorian
Qondorian
Rondorian
Wondorian
Yondorian
Xondorian
Zondorian
Condorian
Gondorian (Lotr...)
Tondorian
Aondorian
Iondorian
Fondorian
Nondorian
Mondorian

And maybe like this:

B'ondorian
Bon'dorian
Bondo'rian
B'ondoria'n
B'on'do'ria'n (This sounds weirdooo like :[ Bb oon do rria nn])
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 23, 2006, 12:41:23 pm
About the lotr, what names has our region got anyways except "the sixth level". Sometimes they make names out of the lands connected to the seas, in this case "Gondor" connected to the "Gondorian" sea. Maybe the area can give us a hint on what the sea will be called or, if we haven't got a name for the region yet, give a hint to what it will sound like through the sea.

What do you think about Bendarian/Bendarin sea?
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 23, 2006, 05:18:18 pm
To me it would be Tendarin Ocean that would sound the best but those two are good choices too.
I don't have an idea about the sixth level so you'll have to ask someone else.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 23, 2006, 05:56:28 pm
Is it not possible to use known words ?
If you read the description of Boreal, it is not a well known or used word in most circles.
I like the sound of the word and we can work of of it for other names aswell.

Boreal may refer to these:
Northern from the eponymous Boreas, god of the North Wind in Greek mythology.
In geology, the Boreal shield is a region of ancient rock located in Canada.
In ecology, "Boreal" is usually applied to ecosystems localized to subarctic (Northern hemisphere) and subantarctic (Southern hemisphere) zones, although Austral is also used for the latter. A "boreal forest", also known as the taiga, is the set of forest ecosystems that can survive in northern, specifically subarctic, regions. The ecosystems that lie immediately to the south (in the Northern hemisphere) or to the north (in the Southern hemisphere) of boreal ones are often called hemiboreal.
The form of climate found in a region of boreal forests — specifically, the climates designated Dfc, Dwc and Dsc in the Köppen climate classification scheme.
A Holocene pollen zone and Blytt-Sernander paleoclimate, the Boreal Period.
The name of an owl.
The name of a manufacturer of climbing shoes.

Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 23, 2006, 07:36:24 pm
You make it sound like a word when, in fact it's a name. Boreal is used for so many processes it resmebles a term you use in science other then a name on an ocean. Also, planeshift has no connection at all to Earth and we shouldn't use too many "earthly" concepts. I think Tendarin see still clings a bit false, it's not smooth enough..

If you find a nice word used fairly sporadic that pictures the epic event in any way I may walk the line, otherwise i'm sticking to beautiful names with no meaning.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 23, 2006, 08:33:06 pm
ok then hows this Bajeal   

Ba je al
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 23, 2006, 10:03:04 pm
Hello, guys :D!!! Can't keep silence cause you are too
Good start... ;D
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on June 23, 2006, 10:07:02 pm
Hello guys. Can't keep silence cause i think you are both toooooooooooooooooooooooo stuck at Ocean name. You forget the main task- to name the streets, channels, districts e.t.c of Klyros city. Name of the ocean is just subordinate thing. (anyway i  like "Tendarin Ocean" very much). I try to make a map for city in this week but.... still haven't done it yet, sorry. It is very pty that you leave our thread for a while, but  hope you returned with great ideas $D
TodaY MY MOTHER BIRTHDAY we just stoped to celebrate it with my two brothers.... I'm lissening to music in my 5-channel music system even if it 0:01 am. :D I'm little bit drunk, friends but nothing serious. Never buy licensed "Half-Life 2 Episode One" cause it's a damn thing, i cursed myself 1000 times when i buy it today. Laanx, please destroy Steam to peaces. >:O
Right now i'm lissening to Mattafix " Big City Life" song and it sounds like "Big Klyros Life" :D
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 23, 2006, 10:17:42 pm
Ok, then Tendarin Ocean it is.
/me reads "Drunk"
/me remembers the last time Inca wrote drunk
/me shudders
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on June 24, 2006, 11:07:37 am
Ok so for the City names we can,

Use words we already made and connect them to an english word, examples:

Mad Dancing Searban Tavern
<Fishnamehere> Street
<Anynamehere> Street

Then we can use colors too:

Yellow Searban Street
Black Rock Tavern
Drunk Green Sea-sick fisherman

And then we can have english + english names:

Queens Blessing Tavern
The Fork and Spoon Tavern
The Street of Kings

And then names we have inveted ourselves:

Searban & Shazzer (Tavern)
Bacu

The categories of names we need in THE CITY:

The normal house
Taverns
Streets
Canals
Important Buildings
Military Buildings (not sure 'bout this)
The secret sub-marine base of Klyros

These are just examples.
Now I'm leaving for three-week vacation.
See you...not so soon.
 :'(  \\o//

Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 24, 2006, 11:17:24 am
Think that's a good sum up, GJ Arangol :flowers: We'll miss you :'(










Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Josellis on June 27, 2006, 03:28:13 pm
Could you please just resume all the idea in the main post, so that I don't always need to browse through the all 8 pages ...


it would be great for me and for many other people :D
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 27, 2006, 04:15:56 pm
Good idea, just copy>paste every accepted name/idea on the first post and we can ramble on how we like
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 27, 2006, 11:24:58 pm
Done   :)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: kondrakier on June 28, 2006, 06:31:28 am
'Lo.
I have some ideas I would like to share. I have some ideas for places that have ties to things that may be more 'history' or 'storyboard' for the Klyros however, let me know.
For instance:

Gduridion Rokk (A large flat stone at a higher (or highest) point in the city)
Long Description: A large flat stone at a higher (or highest) point in the city where all who can make it on a regular basis to meet and bask in the sun, warming thier reptilian bodies and nourishing thier system. Places from thier past have been spoken of that were mecca-like points where massive groups gathered to meet in this way.
Implications/Background:
     Rokk - Incorporating someones idea to use common words mixed with native tounge but with a twist.
     Sun warming/Worship?: Since they are by nature reptiles they would be most likely cold blooded (i didn't see anything otherwise) and would have to warm themselves artificially. This could bring about a whole chapter of the klyros whereas they live nearly sub-teranean but require sunlight to live, they would choose this place for its protection and life giving light.
     Speach: something handy to start thinking of would be the language itself. Understanding/advancing that to a higher degree will bring about a more complex reaction from individuals with regards to coming up with the klyros 'named places'.
For instance:
Coming up with the word for 'mother', lets say its 'Hshie', and the word 'stone', lets says its 'ichmod', and the contractual word for 'of' being "'a".
Make a place out of it: Ichmod a'Hshie

Just a few ideas.
Let me know.
Kondrakier.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 28, 2006, 06:41:19 am
Some great ideas  :thumbup:  You have obviosly put alot of thought into this.

Just one correction, it is Crystal light in this worl, not sun  :D
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: kondrakier on June 28, 2006, 06:47:59 am
Thank you.

I think you misunderstand. I said light not sun. They were seeking a better place correct?.. Well its protected, they are well recieved by the other races, and they get light AND warmth from this crystal yes? That is all they could ask for.

k-
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 28, 2006, 06:57:57 am
You are right. I did. Speed reading when your tired isnt a good combo. :)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 28, 2006, 07:35:59 am
 Very good dieas. The sun idea we've already though of. Me andminetus discussed it earlier and he showed a protruding cliff which was going to be on the mountain peak, so we've got that fixed. Browse the main thread and you might find some screenies from Minetus. :detective:
What have you thought about the language, i'm interested in hearing your reply. I don't think Klyro's would speak a special language, I would say a mix between English and their original speech, that would leave us with a twist and an explanation to current street-names.

Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: kondrakier on June 28, 2006, 08:32:00 am
Baldur,
The fragmentation of the original language could be simply from occupation and assocation with these other languages. Like many languages, including english, some words just are not explainable in one language and must tap into an older language to facilitate the understanding.
Possible Example in Klyron:
Dsthenduso "Meeting place"
'ei "At, or There"
Elthurian (a random river)
In klyron: You and I will go to Dsthenduso 'eiElthurian River
In old tounge (unfragmented and held intact by a few elders) could be something like this:
"Incandis dsthenduso'eiElthurian ianc'alhana"
Together At River Elthurian meeting place we join.

Cracking crucial ties between words is important. like 'Incandis' and 'Ianc', both pertaining to us, we, together, connected, ect If you want to really break it down you could say they derive from 'an' (which is in both words and alhana (join)), meaning 'bound' or 'parts of'. Keeping that stream of thought you could apply it to anything and then just branch forward and backward in old tounge and 'new tounge' and discover thier roots and thier new counterparts in the current dialect.

It could also be assumed that after enough exposure there would surely be new generations that have but completely parted from the old language, hanging on to bits and pieces they hear in every day conversation, not really knowing what the names of the places really mean in thier native language.

tired. must rest.
fair well,
k-








Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 28, 2006, 09:36:41 am
Baldur,
The fragmentation of the original language could be simply from occupation and assocation with these other languages. Like many languages, including english, some words just are not explainable in one language and must tap into an older language to facilitate the understanding.
Possible Example in Klyron:
Dsthenduso "Meeting place"
'ei "At, or There"
Elthurian (a random river)
In klyron: You and I will go to Dsthenduso 'eiElthurian River
In old tounge (unfragmented and held intact by a few elders) could be something like this:
"Incandis dsthenduso'eiElthurian ianc'alhana"
Together At River Elthurian meeting place we join.

Cracking crucial ties between words is important. like 'Incandis' and 'Ianc', both pertaining to us, we, together, connected, ect If you want to really break it down you could say they derive from 'an' (which is in both words and alhana (join)), meaning 'bound' or 'parts of'. Keeping that stream of thought you could apply it to anything and then just branch forward and backward in old tounge and 'new tounge' and discover thier roots and thier new counterparts in the current dialect.

It could also be assumed that after enough exposure there would surely be new generations that have but completely parted from the old language, hanging on to bits and pieces they hear in every day conversation, not really knowing what the names of the places really mean in thier native language.

tired. must rest.
fair well,
k-
Very good, you're welcome to develop more of your ideas, they seem very interesting. Laragorn, Inca and Arangol could help you and discuss you'v brought up. To not make the thread too big you might convert to PM's if it's common compliments. Serious feedback is permitted to this thread.

On the other hand, we first need to know how the other reces sound like and we need some words that can be mixed with our local words. To have the full support we'll need someone from the dev-team, for example Inca.
Do you have any plausible ancient languages of the other races? Otherwise we could scrap it, as of now all the creatures languags are mixed up with the common language: English and we would have a mixed language mixed with other languages which all are mix with English, this seems quite complicated.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on June 29, 2006, 07:45:41 am
Kondrakier, it seems you have some skills with language and speech. (Anyway i didn't understand almost anything in your posts cause their have very complex phrases. :(
Please, check SECOND page of thread where we have Arangol's(90% approved) and Laragorn's (developing) Lists of Klyros words/names - analyze'em and try to invent words in similar manner. Also the next pages contained a very important ideas of Klyros language and speech itself. (i talking about your long klyron complex words/phrases)
Also, try to divide such concepts like "writing language" and "speech language".
Don't understand me wrong, guys, i want to manifest our main task (second time): invent names for Klyros City area (in-city and out-city) check this post http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23667.msg263346#msg263346

I don't think that it is very needed to invent whole klyron language to determine city names, do you?
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: kondrakier on June 29, 2006, 05:48:14 pm
I see what you mean about the low sylable count issue. However (and this can be completely disregarded) the klyro may have, through mastery of the gills made is possible to speak in normal tounge clearly underwater.

Since we need definitions, and I love doing that. Here goes. Hope I don't overwrite anyones ideas:

Almon -- (The last ray of the sun before darkness)
arbunknn -- (A grommet-like connection on a net for harnessing and transportation with rope)
*Armuutriik – ( A glowing crystal on a staff)
Baxto -- (Childrens fish, or minnows)
Darda -- (A wild underwater fruit resembling an apple)
Diktaro -- (A scribes clay pallet)
Desptar -- (A bright blue mineral that is crushed and used with Estrax to stop a poisonous effect)
Dexorn -- (Also known as Hundred Light Thorn. A spined, stout plant with three base leaves and one long pistol in the center ending with a brilliant whight flower that has 100 petals. Juice of this plant makes Ostal when distilled)
Drakyny -- (A long bony fish that is nearly impossible to catch. Catching one is a sign of mastery of the fishing form.)
Dunbar -- (Where a river splits to create an Island)
Duxy -- (One who is unscrupulous or prone to mistakes)
Doodry -- (a waterproof apron used by fish mongers)
Detarn -- (a Necklace worn my elders to signify importance in the community)
Detryll -- (Oil of the common crab, used to purify the body)

Thats all for now..
k-
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 29, 2006, 06:40:34 pm
@ Kondrakier;
     You have some exellent ideas there.  :thumbup:
I have a little challange for you, if you would like, if not, no sweat. I have moved the list to the first page. What i would like for you to try is to take some of the words from the Possibilities area and change them up a little. As Inca stated our main goal right now is the name the city and the reigion. We need more street (cannal) names, a few more landscape names ( like Eptar's cragg) and maybe some more water area names. Add some of your own aswell, keep in mind Inca has a certain sound and rhythm he is looking for, so dont get discouraged :)
     I look forward to your suggestions.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: kondrakier on June 30, 2006, 12:55:36 am
The words I have above are from the top of 'Possabilitites' list.
Are we still looking for the cities name?
Well I guess let me throw some down if we are still looking.

City proper:
Klyron based
Tharn
Kionh
Mherr
Meir
Koe
Vloril
Mitark

Mixed Base:
Phrealand
Rhonland

Canals:
Loril Way (Canal that runs down the limit of the city, on one side is dwellings and on the other is nature until it eventually cuts into the edge of the city and meets up with the Plkadia.)
Kann Passages (canals used by merchants that run underneath the heart of the market area where loading areas are located below the shops. Direct offshoots of the Plkadia that meet back up with it after making half-moon shapes underneath themarket areas)
River Fiorn (Truly a canal by nature. Got its name from an influencial merchant (Bakkus Fiorn) who wanted to make/name his own "River" and proceeded to push some officials into allowing him to flood a back alley of the merchant district that was formerly used by thugs and other shady characters. This canal is never used as its course is anything but complimentary to common watercraft. It twists and turns with nearly no cause or docking points except for one at the back door of the Black Stax where it is said some shady dealings are had. The river eventually tightens up and simply merges into the Plkadia through small cracks between buildings. The river is all but stagnant and at points in the hight of the summer is said to reak of rotton fish. Some simply refer to it as Fiorn's Curse.)

 Merchant District
Capilli Plaza (Capilli: A large succulent plant found all around the city that gives off a crisp clean smell. Blooms brilliant red every 50 years and drops in one day. Complete blooms are said to enhance ones alertness and strength and are worth a large sum from the right buyer)


Ahh duty calls, Must go for now. Will work on this more later.
k-


Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on June 30, 2006, 01:19:41 am
Most of your suggestions have been added to the list of possibilities :)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on June 30, 2006, 07:21:47 am
Post deleted because of doublepost
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on July 02, 2006, 11:08:33 am
COMMON ANNOUNCEMENT!

We now have a Wikipedia on the Main Thread's[ Klyro's City Project (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23402.0)] first post, containing all the info you need about the Klyro's City Project easily accessed through a search tool or browsable links, check it out!


Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on July 02, 2006, 09:32:04 pm
I have added the Wiki link to the first page here aswell.
Also i have added some other street names (cannal). :)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on July 02, 2006, 10:05:27 pm
Excellent*twitch*
/me grins evilishly as he watches the pile of alphabetically ordered Names
*nudge*
(http://www.eventide.net/forums/images/graemlins/evil6.gif)
/me pokes the weeping Laragorn lying on the floor embracing the last remnant of his sanity, that is. Names...
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on July 02, 2006, 10:17:24 pm
Hey easy buddie  ???
It was canada day yesterday, and i celibrated lots  :devil:
I went to bed at 7am so there is still a little fog in my head  :-\
I will orginize the lists, just not today  :P
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on July 02, 2006, 10:25:10 pm
No worries, I guess i'm a bit high on coke right now :P

Me iz glad, my sketches are filled in tomorrow or the day after that and then i'll get'im scanned! :lol:
Oh, i'm soo high right now...
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on July 05, 2006, 10:00:18 pm
I'm grabbing "Almon" as a name for the former "Ba", k?
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Ahriman on July 05, 2006, 10:12:32 pm
From First Post:

Quote
Nibenay (Ocean)

From The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion:

Quote
Nibenay Valley, Nibanese Bay

Nice names, but this one bothers me ^_^
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on July 05, 2006, 10:18:15 pm
We decided to pick that away X-/ Who disobeyed my orders!*whip**whip*
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on July 09, 2006, 02:17:39 pm
Right now I'm so tried so I won't add all the new names to my list but don't worry, someday they will pop up.
But it's really looking good. Good we have some new names here.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on July 09, 2006, 02:58:58 pm
ATM we have enough names, maybe we'll need some in the future, otherwise if we need a special name we'll put you to business. Laragorn's doing well so, if any, he should be well fit for running this part of the project. Kondrakier's a contributer too, both in ideas as in names. I think we have even more info the "Treecastle" project and they've been working more longer then us. I'd say we're on dry land. We'll need to focus on completing the flora and wildlife as they are still to be started upon and I and Inca don't have 8 arms to spare, so we'll need to focus on the wildlife or buildings. Klyran architecture is yet to be made, maybe Arangol and Kondrakier could do some use and put their clever brains to action. I'm sure Kondrakier has some opinions and Arangol's good with 3D. Kondrakier's also fairly well educated in concepts.

Just a suggestion, as always, and some news for the newly come

Peace
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on July 09, 2006, 03:41:15 pm
Ok, I'll start working on some 3d buildings and try to finish the burial well.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on July 17, 2006, 04:57:28 pm
Being the Vacation season, the activity has slowed a bit. This is to be expected, I guess.

I have an idea for the "Klyro City Name Contest"

The proposed 40k Tria, really isn’t very much. If we could get "The powers that be" (Devs, GMs) to donate 200K Tria, this would be a much more appealing reward.

I believe there are two main names we are looking for;
1. The Klyro City name
2. The name for the entire region that is being developed.

In fact we would need 400k Tria, 200k for each Name.

Your thoughts on this are appreciated
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: minetus on July 17, 2006, 07:13:07 pm
well i tink the GM involvement might be a lill to much to ask :-[, and i sugest that we try make a hunting party to get the trias first, like all of us on a saturday night in a mining hunt ;D im pretty sure we could raise that kind of tria in a day or 2 :woot: ?
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on July 17, 2006, 07:36:06 pm
As for me, i think this is wasting of money - proposing 40 THOUSANDS TRIAS for ONLY TWO NAMES. Look at your Lists of klyros words, Laragorn (and Arangol) - you (and the rest of our team) invented about 200 original names without any rewards and prizes  :'( I think you are too generous.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on July 17, 2006, 07:56:03 pm
As for me, i think this is wasting of money - proposing 40 THOUSANDS TRIAS for ONLY TWO NAMES. Look at your Lists of klyros words, Laragorn (and Arangol) - you (and the rest of our team) invented about 200 original names without any rewards and prizes  :'( I think you are too generous.

I guess I’m just a little bit stumped these days, trying to come up with the “BIG” name.
My main goal was to entice people to put on their thinking caps and get involved.
200,000 Tria isn’t much for Oldies, but for the newbie it is like winning the Lotto 

I will try locking myself away with all the art from our beloved city and try to “be the city” and see what I can come up with.

@ minetus
I’m all for a tria hunting party )
A good platinum hunt is always fun

Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on July 17, 2006, 08:41:19 pm
Saturday naight hunt party ....- ehh, it will be 22 of July - the birthday of my third friend - Victor. So, i will be in another world speaking with supreme reason :D Good hunting..
Today i finally downloaded 015.b patch to PS and updates and reached The Bronze Doors.. Cherppow did a great work. I explore location with open jaws and it was very surprisingly for me - as for concept artist of this location - to see how my drawings come true in 3d :D
It was so pity that nobody were there, even NPC, to talk to...
..And IT IS ROTATING - the WHEEL ROTATING!!!! First moving object in whole existent Yliakim (except monsters and grass)!!!
Revolution!!!
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on July 17, 2006, 09:02:34 pm
I dont think it has to be on a saterday night, as i do party a little on that night :P

Its good to see that you do find time to accualy play the game Inca :D
I agree the BD region is spectacular.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on July 18, 2006, 08:57:35 am
400k seems a bit too much but 50k for each word sounds good.
Downloading the patch right now, haven't played in about a month.  :-[
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: minetus on July 18, 2006, 08:52:35 pm
well i said a saturday but that was just because i tought more people would be avaible at that day, we can allways book it for another day were we can all get together ;)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on July 19, 2006, 08:43:40 am
Yes couldn't it be on Sunday then? Sunday 23 of July at 18:00GMT?
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on July 19, 2006, 07:29:37 pm
Sunday sounds good to me :)

Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: minetus on July 19, 2006, 08:35:17 pm
that sounds good to me :)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on July 23, 2006, 06:29:59 pm
Alright, so shall we have it today, or should we move it on a week, so the rest of the people can attend too? Right now it's only Minetus and Laragorn that have answered the thread.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: minetus on July 23, 2006, 07:29:54 pm
im late  :o
been on the beach doing some research :cought: hehe
gona shower and dinner only be back after dinner ???
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on July 23, 2006, 08:22:21 pm
Well i am going for platinum now anyways :)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on July 28, 2006, 11:37:05 pm
I have spent hours catching up. here are some suggestions to add to your name bank

City Names:

Aal-a-berith (waters that bear)

Syios

Zixxal

Nineus

Lopaan

Cannals or water ways:

Yin Je

Xai

Gonun

The Tefusang cannal (because Bleoo pushed one in saving an elderly Klyros?) called the tef by locals

Uxumbrik

Streets:

Streets running north south and avenues running east west?

Ounci (A main road?)

Abazaa (the plaza or bazarre)

Inary

Abeq

Ockarg

Tzun

Myzael

Acthi

Misc:

Phni

Vazak

Isharke

Uhaan

Galerazi! (derrivitive of Galeran and his persecution of the Klyros, I wish galeran uopn you , taken as a curse0

Tiizak

Sauurka (distilled version of the "mercury" that the runners or glider's used to fly?)

Gaptkon

Adraac {kelp wine?}

Gronash

Kuzab

Mizzelb

Ygire

Pthogine

Aboh

Ick Gnat

Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on July 29, 2006, 02:17:26 am
Yay! Everything that means alot of work for Laragorn means lots of fun for me ;D

I especially like the Abaaze, like "A bazzare" but abbrevated :) I'm glad you could come Xillix, enjoy your stay :flowers: ;)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on July 29, 2006, 06:45:01 am
@Xillix
Exellent work Xillix   \\o//

A great variety of linguistic styles.
I am sure there are a lot there we can use right away.

One of my favorites is Adraac {kelp wine?} But i like the name for something bigger maybe.

The Gran city of AdRaaC 

I will start sifting through your list and adding them to the main page.

/me slaps Baldur with a slimey Bladurous

Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on July 29, 2006, 01:40:58 pm
@Xillix
Exellent work Xillix   \\o//

A great variety of linguistic styles.
I am sure there are a lot there we can use right away.

One of my favorites is Adraac {kelp wine?} But i like the name for something bigger maybe.

The Gran city of AdRaaC 

I will start sifting through your list and adding them to the main page.


Adraac sounds nice, what do the rest of you think?
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on July 29, 2006, 04:14:35 pm
Nice work Xillix.

Adraac is a good name. But not with a big C in the end.  :)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on July 29, 2006, 05:23:41 pm
Nice work Xillix.

Adraac is a good name. But not with a big C in the end.  :)

I think Laragorn meant to extinguish where he put more weight on pronounciation of those letters.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on July 29, 2006, 07:25:27 pm
I have added all of Xillix's list to the main page.

I took the ones that i thought were a perfect fit, and added them to the aproved section.
The rest are in the possibilities section.

It would be a good idea for everyone to go over the possibility list again, and make any sugestions of what might be used.

/me is still in  :love: with Adraac
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on July 29, 2006, 08:15:23 pm
Adraac's a good name, let's see what Inca and Minetus thinks about it.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: minetus on July 29, 2006, 08:56:34 pm
me, like  ;D

 :thumbup:

:adding:

aruug
ahkuin
azuk
arhcol
aguit
ahzu
ahjuu
ahnk ("anhk" Eternity, infinity, eternal life hieroglyth in ancient egipt)
picture: (http://www.m-w.com/mw/art/anhk.gif)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on July 29, 2006, 09:00:38 pm
Adraac...
As 4 me, i don't like such words at all (sorry, Laragorn and Baldur). I don't like words with double\triple letters - Adraac, Looron, Shraag. It's sounds to me like somebody jamed his own finger in door and scream: Adraaaaaaac, Shraaaaaag...
If you want to propose a name for city - don't just invent a outlandish word (strange set of letters)==> invent a story about this word/name (how it connected with klyros,or landscape, or history...), prove its advantages.
But i think that the prefix "Gran" - sounds good.

Idea: as we know - this city became a first big klyros town in Yliakim. So, literary, it became the "New Hope" of Klyros nation, the "Beginning of New Life". For example we have klyron word: "Kynaria" = "hope"==> New Kynaria==>Nukynaria. Just my silly thoughts.. :D

But it seems i'm the one against it, so you can easily choose it for the city. :)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on July 29, 2006, 09:04:37 pm
Revolution is near, band together brothers!
/me does a single man chain
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: minetus on July 29, 2006, 09:17:26 pm
i tink we debated the name structure earlier in this thread in the begining and we kinda agreed that klyros would have kinda a "accentuation" in theyr speech due to theyr underwater speech

that klyro's would speak aah's aarg oo ee etc etc,

 maybe im being silly again :sweatdrop:

off topic:: baldur wanna go mine with me? we need to get some funds for the contest ;D, inca your invited too if you got free time.. ill be in the magic shop gold area
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on July 29, 2006, 09:20:01 pm
If that's a valid invitation, then yes! Let's raid the magic store ;D
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on July 30, 2006, 02:17:15 am
I have added your list to the possibilities list minetus.

Adraac - The name of an ancient Klyros goddess. The beuty of this goddess would make any male stop dead in their tracks.
             Beuty was not her only feature. Adraac had an amazing ability to bless anyone with abundant wealth. Wealth not only in riches, 
             but also in relationships and aslo in any occupation they chose. Some say her beuty and gifts surpassed that of the young Laanx.

Just a rough idea of the meaning.
Now we need one of our gifted story tellers, to fill in the whole story of Adraac.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: minetus on July 30, 2006, 01:18:21 pm
laragorn i believe klyros are atheyist by nature they would hardly worship anything besides themselfs that is.. maybe thats not that good of idea sorry, besides adraac sounds a masculine name, maybe just me :P
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on July 30, 2006, 02:25:56 pm
Yes, you forget Lara, that klyros are atheists - so, no any goddess, no any temples, no any sacred shrines...
And once again: our city HAS A GREAT STORY, HAS AN AMOUNT OF NAMES OF FAMOUS KLYROSES, HAS A LANDSCAPE FEATURES (RIVERS, SHORE etc), it has special meaning for whole klyron race ("new hope") - why we should name it in the name of unknown goddess or other person wich haven't any somehow connections with our city?
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on July 30, 2006, 03:17:45 pm
Agreed, I had a flashing thought and ran with it ;)

I still like the name, We just need to give it the proper history I guess.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on July 30, 2006, 11:47:34 pm
Heh, I want you all to know I read all of the related threads (every word) the names I suggest are informed by all the suggestions and lore to this point, that said here are some more :P

Adrak <---no double vowel :)

Adrakus

nighlus- a klyros word for bioluminescence

thempile

Leapor- A holiday everyone jumps from the highest place it town and the one who glides the farthest becomes gues of honor in a three day celebration.

Grum Dalor- a day of memorial for those fallen in the exodus and war

Ageak Tarn- name for a hill or mountain

Ben Vask- A liqour brewed by klyros for klyros anatomy

Tithlian- title of high speaker for the council

Xobcon- a species of edible sea snail

Xalain- a squid from which ink is derived

Nevdos- underwater cave near the city

Uru Exale- Name of a type of ship

Exidosia- a slowing of the mental processes which occurs when klyros are to long away from warmth

Brosia- fauna of some sort

Amra- Honor, Dignity

Baden Kun now accepted written history of the Klyros exodus and battles for maintained autonomy

Qua Adarak [perhaps "new abundance"]

Qua Lyrios [the new song]

Gnorion- a bad name for a klyros who has taken to readily to the ways of the other races of yliakum

Ukra Flarg- Seaweed jerky

Haipha Nhale- name of a mythical beast said to snatch klyros children who try to hold their breath too long, and forget to return to the surface (see nitrogen narcosis)

Vas It Seke [vas eet say ka]

Cian Seros- story teller

Haive Denkor- Holiday for the harvest season

Alder Gorn- thin branched bare trees

Ashinge- a type of peet dried and used for fuel

Netherum- Klyros word for the death realm

Etheril- the name for portals

Gondaren- unavoidable challenge, this is used both as a name for the right of passage into adulthood and a childhood game of dares that ready the young for that trial

Aterivel- water from earth, a name for springs

Eath Lial- an area of duldrums

Gyonia- a manatee like sea mammal sometimes hunted

Kula Dyax- Risen boat a name for the pontoon boats or katamaran's

Juli Synthar- an aproximation of Juli (hoo lee), a drink from the home world potent and damn near undrinkable to a non klyros

Akrax Conth- the council chambers

Mithril Sea- bah

Mythrisia- the sea

Reagnus- increases red way

Phlothon- a rare aquatic substance that increases endurance

Piranzes- Captain

Ugor Thale- a greeting 

Omad Eranth- Knight or high protector

Lac Amarantic {derivative i know, but forever lake . . .}

Ebbus [dont the water levels alter in this level of yliakum?]

SylkSor- an aquatic spider that weave nets these are seldom seen by the bravest divers.

Inseaja- a submarine drill used for military needs, these are attached to many larger ships underwater they are hydrodymic and can be operated by a small number of klyros in ship to ship combat, a trick learned from the aquatic elves.

Council of Hex

Glimmeread [name for an epic describing the battle between the sentinel and talad? perhaps so named for the manner in which the water glowed when talad manifest?]

Adastle- a bladder used to regulate boyancy

Nal Agar Tendith- crab or seaweed merchant

Pourth O D'claw- a crab farm water is caught in resevoirs during high time to provide meat during low tide.

Urthaxa- a sexton to help navigate at night by the irregularities in the crystal above.

Meiornia- stalamite that stick up here and there in the lake or sea these are used as channel markers

Ran Airgothe- derrogatory term for preaching, or missionaries, translation is something like "wind that moves no sails"

Uxak Narg- Fog

Ivaxon- a citadel of coral, the lighthouse, a building name

Athieus- bastardization of athiest as klyros were called, used now by klyros to express the sentiment alien.

Vis Loc Barreen (all else is barren?)

Edgefall- when one "falls" off the end of their endurance into the water while gliding

Kull Arinthe- High tide

Dool Arinthe- low tide

Agi Kish- Lobster/scorpion like creature, a delicacy due to the danger in catching them

Golarzen

Hithan- a rank in the council

Ubare- A spear balaced for use in water, viciously hydrodynamic and weightless in the water. Its boyancy is neutral.

Keelan Carpenter or shipwright

Agashom- a song of lament for the dead

Navem- an underwater plant that produces air bubbles in pods, these are cultivated to help show non water breathing or amphibious creatures the kelp farms

Quorka- long lived tortiouse looking creatures [possibly use shells as shield or even roofs of huts] 
 
Inca, i think that if all of you pick a name by its aural qualities it should be easy enough to write a story about its meaning and make linguistic adjustments systemically after having made that determination, otherwise the potential author of said story risks working on a story for a name that is to be rejected anyway. The story could of course be adjusted for a new name later, but if i were writing that story i would be using the name as inspiration. All of these potential names should be mixed and matched to the needs of the project freely and without reservation. I have given some though and paid attention to the sounds established by the names you have all derived to this point. I assure the team I can write a story of origin for whatever name you do choose and am sure the same is true of Kixie. I have chosen these names for their logical, pragmatic, atheistic or unmystical qualities. The Klyros might seem somewhat matter of fact in their description of natural phenomena to those unfamiliar with Klyron culture.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on July 30, 2006, 11:53:24 pm
@Randon thought@[i could not find the lore link so it goes here]

A Klyros myth

The name of Adraxus comes from the name of a self-declared goddess of the Klyros in antiquity. She was enormously powerful but of course the Klyros did not readily except her as goddess. She fought no battles but quietly asserted her divinity standing aloof from the people until some emergency drove one or more of them to call on her she would then often perform miracles, healings, transmutations, polymorphing, the making of food from the air itself, being more than one place at once.

When a crisis was averted she made no fanfare but quietly left to her distant lodgings. Many generations passed and yet Adraxus lived, lending credence to her notion that she was a Goddess among the people. Still they doubted, and the Klyros summoned all manner of stories to explain her existence: She was a Shaman of great power, She could appear more than one place because "she" was actually a pair of twins, she seemed to have outlived normal Klyros only because it was generations of the same family all pretending to be Adraxus. Thus the Klyros spoke among themselves.

Six generations passed in this manner and slowly some of the more weak-minded or infirm started to allow the idea that Adraxus might indeed be a goddess. Still no one spoke of her this way but the seed was there. The sick and elderly, having been raised with stories of their grand parents and parents of how often Adraxus had come to the aid of the Klyros in this or that small or great manner began to weigh more heavily in their minds than all the denial their sires had concocted to explain away.

Adraxus sensed this weakness, just as she could hear them call for her aid, she heard this silent worship of some Klyros, and moved quickly to exploit it. She too was pragmatic and rational. Adraxus began visiting the elderly in dreams, the sick in visions, the substance of which was catastrophe and genocide for the Klyros if they fail to recognize her long service to them and honor her as a goddess deserved. 

Even the elderly and sick were not as careless as to mention these visions and dreams at first. Theirs were the visions and dreams of madmen and they knew what fate they would meet if they should share their dreams. They did not even speak to each other. 

Adraxus knew of their reluctance and understood their fear of the Klyros traditions but she was beginning to age in the face of the Klyros disbelief, it became vital to her that they begin to worship her to stop or reverse her eminent death. Without the power of their worship she would surely wither and die, even her magic could not stop that.

Adraxus thought many days and nights on the problem. She kept sending dreams to the more susceptible Klyros and watched their reactions. When a Klyros dreamed of her it was all conflict and turmoil. She watched individuals more and more and could see all of them wrestling all night with themselves. She feared it was something innate something a priori that stopped them from making that leap of faith. When she put the question to herself “would I believe in me if I were them?” Or, “if I encountered a force proportionally greater than myself, would I worship it?” she invariably answered no.

The would-be goddess then came to the answer she sought. Adraxus would use her power to make herself dream. Her hope was that in finding a dream that she herself could believe she would find a way to convert the Klyros. In her eldritch dream Adraxus saw the coming of her own doom a plague of her own creation sweeping among the people killing off those most faithful first then reaching through the strong all the way back to herself. At last a pitched battle between herself and the council elders and shaman. They pounded down her very door and she killed mercilessly. Days passed in the dreams a massacre previously unseen in all of Klyros lore, they could hardly harm her at all but that she aged more with each Klyros death and withered as she fought. Most striking was the fact that Adraxus knew the people she slew, not knew of, but knew personally; she had raised them from the very start of their lives individually. Each one she knew their names and the names of their children even as she slew them she would recall this one’s aunt, that one’s lover, where this one liked to vacation, his favorite food, her first word . . .she had been mother to this whole generation . . .The dream shifted and she saw the sick and elderly she now had a hold on stealing away from parents with newlings and then a large repository of newlings all kept un a magical chamber of her devising so that each would grow to its maximum potential and she taught them everything they knew and how to worship. She taught them the culture of their own people albeit slanted with her version. She taught them how to filter back into Klyros society how to infiltrate it and make it their own, it was their birth right they we the brood of Adraxus.

This dream would come to pass. Adraxus saw to it that the young were brought all at once. On what Klyros now call “the Night of Tears,” 200 Klyros children were taken and the weak and elderly were all slain for their efforts, Adraxus could not admit the taint these might have on her children.

The people awoke with their youngest and eldest generations gone and the sick and mad as well. The council gathered and a great furor was raised to destroy the so called “goddess” for surely only she could be behind this. So a militia was gathered and the mass moved on the distant hut where Adraxus lived. They traveled for days their way hindered by all manner of beast hideous and alien to them before reaching the hut. It was barren. Not only was there no one there it appeared as though no one had been there for a few hundred years. . .They were stunned. They dragged their militia home confounded. It was decided the night of tears would not be spoken of ever again and that all the people should do their best to carry on as though this had not happened, the inexplicable was not to be cause for conjecture.

Adraxus Brood was relocated in anticipation and they were raised in all the love a being with enough power and arrogance to call herself a goddess could summon. The Brood grew strong and clever. Games of logic, and mathematics, physics and fierce games of physical skill were demanded of them daily. In Hunting and fishing they were superior to any Klyros in fact in everything; Adraxus spared little of her power for herself instead endowing her children with much of her strength.

When her children started to come of age by Klyros custom she began sending them into society one at a time among the Klyros people slowly she released her 200 children back into the populace. The brood fit well in society, they were needed. Their superior skill found them wanted in all places. Many of them rose in society, and as ordered many took roles in government, entertainment, and positions of strategic import. The fisherman’s guild head died and a Brood member rose, the dean of schools set his greatest teacher up to replace him, the medicine men were amazed a brood member’s imaginative cures,  the greatest artist of the age emerged from obscurity . . .at all levels, the Brood was there.

Adraxus spoke to them from dreams as well and told them the time drew nigh for them to announce the new order. The worship of their mother and goddess should be universal and those not allied with the new order. But now the brood was powerful and learned to love their people, many had married into families as ancient as the rocks, and they like their people began to doubt the strength of their goddess, began to resent the dreams. They met in secret in what they called "the Enclave of the Knowing. They debated for hours and decided to ignore the dreams as long as they could bear and consolidate their power in their own interest, and in the interest of their people during their waking hours. The enclave of the know set a day to meet again and left resolved to put of the mother.

Adraxus soon sense their disobedience their betrayal and intensified the dreams each day until the Brood could hardly sleep. Tormented by visions of plague and cannibalism among their people they were greatly sadden and ill tempered. When they met next it was decided that this or no pressure should bend them from their will. The strength they were endowed with gave them the fortitude to bear any catastrophe without divine interference. The Enclave of the Knowing decided to widen their circle. The moved as one to the council chambers and presented themselves: from all walks of life, now risen to become leaders in every field of Klyros society, as not the children of Adraxus but the children of the Klyros people. The council welcomed them and told them of the Night of Tears and how they had resolved similarly not to worship a being who would cause such horrors. The council with joy that the calendar would now reflect the night of tears as well as this day, the Day of Union, as holidays and that the story of the Brood's rejection of Adraxus be taught to all the people.

Adraxus raged from afar, she aged ten years that day and felt the substantial loss of her beauty she was now middle aged and destined to die by the will of these hard-hearted people. She summoned the strength to manifest a dream in all the Klyros.

The dream was herself as she now appeared standing tall and powerful over a city, and every Klyros saw their home city. “You will worship me or this land will be destroyed in my death.” Their visions then quickened and ages passed and the city seemed to with as the image of Adraxus aged, famine and plagues swept their homes in droves, the made war on each other for resources, and Adraxus laughed at them, laughed at their folly for a simple belief a single prayer could abate her tyranny as cities became ruins and the people more and more were limited to small bands of roving carrion hardly worthy of the proud name Klyros they began to be attacked by infestations of rats by the hundreds of thousands emerging first in the cities then following them through the countryside leave the trees bare and the berry bushes defiled. The dreamers watched as their source of light was covered by the now shadowy form of Adraxus, now she cackled and the vegetation started to die off and event the rats began to die off leaving insects a feast but they too died off, and the Klyros who were eating those insects were fed upon by them. In the dream Adraxus stopped laughing and could no longer be seen but neither was their light or food the Klyros burned all they could to keep their world lit and ate their dead until all was dark, and they awoke.   

 They all awoke with a fresh love for their land and all they had built. The council was again called together and it was decided rather than watch their civilization fall to plague and ruin they would strike Adraxus in her home. The Brood was then called upon to reveal the location of Adraxus’ new home and did so willingly but warned that the costs might well be grim. Determined to not be the newlings of some greater power, they moved as one people to destroy Adraxus.

Adraxus was aging more rapidly than was natural now and she knew her hold over the people was lost, rather than prepare martially for their coming, she prepared magically wielding the mightiest curses known to gods and men she wove a spell of damning so elaborate so unforgiving the knowledge of it is now untold throughout existence.

They Klyros can with an army and all the people in tow and found no armaments no weapons of siege no alien creatures of the elder days just a large mansion, the home of the brood it’s doors open and Adraxus standing there radiant, though aged, and she “I will not allow myself to be destroyed and many of you shall die to today. In my folly as a mother I have given you too much of my strength and you will surely defeat me, but first you will hear my curse: this world will stagnate, dry up become unlivable and as sure as I am your goddess all the Klyros will die with it. All shall be as you have dreamed and though not all of you will die today none of you will long celebrate my defeat. Widows will weep, babes will be your food, and your suffering will rival any known in all times, for if I am to die by the cold of your logic, you will die by my need for your love.”

“Are you done yet hag?” Galvius, one of the Brood spoke, laughter erupted among the host. Galvius turned to his people. “Let me be the first to die brave Klyros for ours is not a destiny of subjugation, but a destiny of will and fortitude. Those who utter curses curse only themselves, superstition and fancy are not our way, we will derive from this or any land what we can, and call it our own, and all we need. Now I say death to this wretched thing WHO IS WITH ME!!?” a cheer went up amongst them and Galvius turned on his mother and began to run as fast as he could with all of his might. As Adraxus smote him she recalled her dream and saw it replay many of her 200 had volunteered to be the first in and she cut them with a blind hatred driven by the deep conviction of betrayal for as long as she could she weakened only after having killed 180 of her brood and thousands of the weaker and at last was over come. Her last act was to tear off her necklace and cast down the beads that rolled amidst the carnage before they sank into the dirt repeating the essence of her curse, “This world will stagnate, dry up, become unlivable, and as sure as I am your goddess all the Klyros will die with it.”

Decade passed much as the dream predicted all was woe and torment for the people. The twenty remaining brood were put to the task of finding a solution. They thought heavily upon Galvius’ words for he was thought the wisest of them before his valiant prideful death. “Those who utter curses curse only themselves, superstition and fancy are not our way, we will derive from this or any land what we can, and call it our own, and all we need.” The Brood turned on the phrase this or any land until it struck Xariab the eldest, of them, “Galvius may have sought another place for us to dwell knowing the efficacy of Adraxus’ curse and its weakness . . . were are only doomed if we stay here . . .” Soon this was their consensus and they sojourned back to the mansion of the goddess in their dwindled darkening word to seek the portal magic that might free them from the curse. Searching the mansion they found Galvius old childhood locker and in it a book on portal magic always forbidden to the Brood by Adraxus. I seemed even in the cleverly devised clinical environment the would-be goddess had made for the Brood; the Klyros willfulness was still manifest in Galvius. His book was crude knowledge of portal magic and as such required blood for its primary component. With time this could be derived slowly enough not to require anyone’s life but time was not their luxury. The Light had dies out completely as they arrived at the mansion and now all grew cold very rapidly. Xariab was sent to gather what people he could while the others did what was needed to open the gate . . .

Xariab traveled as fast as his old bones would allow, and did his best to move from fire to fire calling all to follow. Many days and nights he went amongst the cities, soon he was unable to walk the cold was getting the better of him and all Klyros but do to his extreme old age they bore him in a litter and protected him from those poor Klyros who had given themselves over to the hunger, the sickly carrion whose eyes looked like the last smoke of a squelched flame. Xariab went to each of the main cities and sent dispatches to many more. A huge host was assembled and followed Xariab’s litter bearers in the hope of a new land.

When the people arrived at the mansion they saw a gruesome sight indeed, the remaining members of the brood had forfeited their lives. A strange doorway seemingly pieced together from artifacts found in Adraxus’ home. Even Adraxus’ ashes were used in the spell, and the blood of the Brood ran on grooves to cover the mechanism. A mercurial light emanated from the doorway thus created.

Xariab was overjoyed at reaching the portal yet saddened by the death of his brothers and sisters, he was the last of them, and he should be first to walk through. He gathered his strength and commanded the litter be set down. Then he slowly stood and spoke to the people, “whatever shall await us I shall be the first to face it. We must all remember the courage and conviction that has brought us here, we who survive thank those who have died for the courage that now makes us free. As we face the new tribulations of this new world let us recall the words of Galvius: “Those who utter curses curse only themselves, superstition and fancy are not our way, we will derive from this or any land what we can, and call it our own, and all we need.” This will be OUR way not handed down from on high, but brought forth within us this is our strength, for we are the Klyros!” The people were uplifted the possibilities of a new life awakened in them, their hope and sense of identity quickened in them. Xariab stepped through, the others were eager to follow.

Insert from Planeshift history:

[Laanx was meditating intensely in front of the portal when its surface trembled for the first time. He watched a creature slowly rising from the portal. This creature was emaciated and translucent like a ghost, but seemed to solidify progressively. It seemed to suffer for passing through the portal, and it didn't seem to have noticed Laanx.
The being was bent by a spasm when it noticed the red-dressed person, hidden in the shadow, that was observing it. It stayed motionless, without stopping to scan the god, and it didn't seem frightened.
Laanx spoke, showing completely his true essence. - I'm Laanx - she said - and I'm your god.-
The creature gazed resentfully and silently, and then sat on a rock with its chin in its hands.]

The Klyros would face many ages of persecution and woe [insert Kixie’s history] for their beliefs but having killed a goddess how could they fall prey to another. Eventually they made a permanent settlement and they called it Adraxus with a seething irony to remind themselves that even those who would call themselves gods could not crush out the mighty forbearing Klyros.

[double post needed]
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on July 31, 2006, 01:34:43 am
Few, i wonder why you all so much like writing such a murderous and bloodthirsty stories.... So, my comments:
---i want to express my joy and happiness because of your wish, Xilix, to join the team :D
---you missed (i guess) one important thing of klyron setting: they know that gods exist (cause it's a obvious reality of PS-universe), they know ther power, THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO OBEY ANYONE, EVEN GOD;
---"...they called it(klyros city) Adraxus with a seething irony..." - do you sure? Let's imagine: after 2nd World War in Russia on the river Volga was upbuilded a big town, and it was called " Adolf Hitler" with seething irony... Or: after 11 of september one NewYork bisnessman opened a cafe "Ben Laden" in Manhattan with seething irony...

What do you think, guys? My opinion: don't bind a city to word - bind a word to city.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on July 31, 2006, 01:42:25 am
"---"...they called it(klyros city) Adraxus with a seething irony..." - do you sure? Let's imagine: after 2nd World War in Russia on the river Volga was upbuilded a big town, and it was called " Adolf Hitler" with seething irony... Or: after 11 of september one NewYork bisnessman opened a cafe "Ben Laden" in Manhattan with seething irony..."

While this point is not lost on me, i think this argument if from a human perspective, perhaps not as coldly rational as might come from beings who could see a god, with their own eyes, and not worship it . . . Also just opinion but a nomadic people might keep their culture and stories alive by naming the places they encounter with names taken from their oral tradition, to reinforce and instruct the lessons of their people. To me this would be particularly true after they had finally found a haven from persecution. What I propose with the tale elaborates on why they are so prideful and where the gathered the strength to face Laanx when they arrived.

perhaps Gnar Adraxus "Adraxus fell" "gods folly" "God in us" or something derrivative . . . somehow their settlement meaning the eclipsing of a curse and the emmergience of a new age that does not forget antiquity? 

"---you missed (i guess) one important thing of klyron setting: they know that gods exist (cause it's a obvious reality of PS-universe), they know ther power, THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO OBEY ANYONE, EVEN GOD;"

I did not miss this imho, i tried to explain it. In this tale the gods are(as klyros understand it) surmountable, and Klyros lore teaches that god only have relative greatness, they are no closer to cosmic truth than any Klyros, so need not be worshipped.

"I want to express my joy and happiness because of your wish, Xilix, to join the team"

thank you Very much I hope my work adds to the project at large, and let me say i am willing to edit change or have edited any element i contribute for the greater glory. There is a great danger in writing of writing uneeded material, I posted all of this in response to your earlier call to explain the name in a tale. Picking up from a strand of thought left for me, I went on this fanciful journey taking quite some time in its composition, but everything is in progress . . .
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on July 31, 2006, 01:54:37 am
First i very much enjoyed your story Xillix   O--)

I would have to say that it is a bit to morbid a tale to be attached to a "Grand Klyro City".
I can understand the direction you wanted to go, but i think it was to harsh of a statment of defiance.

Yes the Klyros knew there were gods, i dont think your story contradicts that at all.
I think it is a great view into their past, giving validation to their contept and defiance of Laanx.

I feel we can still use this if the names are changed.
If the goddess had a different name, and if  "Xariab" was changed to Adraax or somthing close.
The city would then be named in honour of the last of the brood, who in final defiance of the false goddess; lead his people away from certian death.

My 2 tria :)


Edit: The Runners or Scouts could be desendants of the "Brood" since they did rejoin the comunity, their offspring should have  had a little of thier skills.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on July 31, 2006, 02:17:00 am
I can make all those changes, tone down the graphic nature of some elements, and shift the names. If others are agreed, once i know i will proceed. Was working on a response so it is before Laragorn's . . .

I was pleased to know that the story might still be used if shifted some, let me know . ..

[edit] I thought that too laragorn, and also the whole race strengthened through their seed, which is why some of them had marriages etc . . .

also what are your irc names so i can share some thoughts by in real time once in a while :)

@Inca I think all writers are somewhat tormented, as for myself i can say my excuse was "i was following the tone established by Kixie" /me whistles and looks innocent. . .
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on July 31, 2006, 03:41:40 am
I would rely on that you change the guy's name to Adraxus as not many understand seething glory at once and that Klyro's would rather cheer their hero then remember their destroyer. As I feel it you describe the Klyro's in a more noble sense and It wouldn't be fitting for noble creatures to lean onto seething irony.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on July 31, 2006, 03:54:28 am
I have some concensus now, I will give inca a last shot before making alterations.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on July 31, 2006, 03:59:36 am
I have some concensus now, I will give inca a last shot before making alterations.
Oh, and could you move this to the storywriting section, or maybe you could create a seperate thread like Kixie did. We'll need to sort things out on where what is but this could both fit into the names section and the storytelling, although it's a story X-/*twitch**twitch*
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on July 31, 2006, 04:21:52 am
I tried to post this story here but i cant access it now

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23664.0

I was aiming for the lore thread with the story post . . .

/me looks lost
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Inca Sator on July 31, 2006, 06:42:25 am
Hmm, i should post it earlier, but i wanted to sleep and i went to sleep...
So, your story, Xilix - a prologue for Kixie story. Let's look on the composition of the plots of both stories:
---two conflict sides: klyron nation and a female-god (Adraxus and Laanx) who wants to enslave klyroses;
---a group of superior klyroses (The Brood and The Runners) - the main force that helped klyroses defeat Goddess;
---a great battle (Battle with Adraxus, Battle with Laanx) in which klyroses won;
---after battle klyroses moved to new world (to Stone Labirynth, to Yliakim);
---episode of betrayal (The Brood betrayed their Mother - Adraxus; The Klyroses\Runners betrayed their creature\son - Sentinel J'ran)...

So, you see there a lot of similar things in that stories - it's a bad, and new reader of Klyros History (Klyron Myth+Klyron Tale) will surely notice it :(
Something got to be changed... What i like in your story, Xilix - the first half of it. When i read that Adraxus helped klyroses without without compensation - i was very intrigued :) This way of enslaving i forget. But in second half of story i often recognized the features from Kixie story...

What i can suggest?
--try to look at your and Kixie stories as whole unified thing. Don't afraid to suggest some changes to Kixie story;
--try to use the features of klyron home realm - low gravitation, watery air and aeriform water, etc.;
--My concept of God existent: God needs the worship, because it's give it to him\her a power and an energy for living, without worship God die (so, it explain why Adraxus lost their god-power in Atheists Realm). But the worshiper get power from this to - it give them spiritual force and then ->physical force.
--not every members of Brood betrayed their Mother; even if they knew about Night of Tears - she don't kill enybody, she treated klyros children as with her own kids;
--the imprecation from Adraxus materialized in Sentinell.

One importan thing:
after events of your story, there were a lot of more greater events during Kixie story - why at the end, after Finnal Battle with Sentinell klyros suddenly remembered the kind goddess Adraxus, which they can easily forget during the genocide from Laanx, perpetual battles, travlling through the Stone Labirynth - and called the city in the name of it?
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on July 31, 2006, 01:05:21 pm
Now this was some quality reading  :)

I liked your story very much and I agree with Inca on all the points listed in Incas last post.


Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on July 31, 2006, 02:00:00 pm
I tried to post this story here but i cant access it now

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23664.0

I was aiming for the lore thread with the story post . . .

/me looks lost
Try this
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=24021.45
Otherwise i'll have to post it in your place.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on July 31, 2006, 03:24:00 pm
All points taken, all changes forthcoming.

[with some changes i think it will mesh much better with kixie's work. for one the runners could be descendants of the brood as laragorn suggested. Two i like the idea of the godesses curse being manifest in the sentinel. Also my background could explain in part why the "mercury" that Kixie mentions holds power for the Klyros because it was made in part by the blood of the brood. The Idea that not all of them revolt from their "mother" works for me as well. I would like to point out that the idea for all this was spontaneously based on Laragorn or baldur's suggestion that Adraak was the name of a goddess, so those similarities are incidental, i did not wittingly copy any element of kixie's story. I will however do all i can to bring the two into sync. The parallelism may actually SERVE the mythology rather than deter it, if some details are hammered out. I will work on some descriptives of Klyros life on their home world as well. One last thing the city will now take the name Adraax in my tale but the person who is now Xariab in my story will be changed to Adraax as many have commented that it would be better to name the city after the defiant hero who walked through the portal first to be killed by laanx rather than the wicked godess who wished to subjugate the klyros.]

someone send kixie an e-mail perhaps we can work on elements together?

Ok I am moving the story now I will work on it some today

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=24021.45

Heh, i started this tale just wanting to justify a name for the city  . . .
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on August 05, 2006, 07:00:46 pm
Hey guys and gals :)

I will be gone for 4-5 days.
Finaly got all my RL obligations taken care of.
I am finally able to go to my camp  \\o//

I'll try to take some pics for ya.
Have fun, and take care.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Arangol on August 06, 2006, 05:05:02 pm
See ya, Bud. O--)
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on August 06, 2006, 05:20:33 pm
Laterz, bro. See you in a few
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Kixie on August 06, 2006, 11:33:05 pm
Thank you for the names. This is very helpful. You've done alot of work in my absense, which proves beyond a doubt the dedication you have with this project. I'm going to go dive into my work now. If Xilix wants to contact me (or if anyone needs to contact me, really) I have all my emails, messenger names, and irc contacts here in my profile. I use AIM frequently now, as the computer I am using has very low performance, and AIM uses less memory than other devices.

Thanks again, I'm off.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: minetus on August 06, 2006, 11:37:01 pm
welcome back kixie :D
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on August 06, 2006, 11:51:34 pm
Thank you for the names. This is very helpful. You've done alot of work in my absense, which proves beyond a doubt the dedication you have with this project. I'm going to go dive into my work now. If Xilix wants to contact me (or if anyone needs to contact me, really) I have all my emails, messenger names, and irc contacts here in my profile. I use AIM frequently now, as the computer I am using has very low performance, and AIM uses less memory than other devices.

Thanks again, I'm off.
Yay, that-guy-we've-been talking-'bout is back! Welcome home , Kixie.

Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on August 10, 2006, 06:47:11 pm
Greetings fellow Klyrophiles   ;D

I still have Xillix's second list of names to add to the main list. Before i do that, I would like you all to go over the list and make some suggestions for meanings.

I feel there are many on the list that are an exellent fit, but want input from the rest of the team.

Thanks everyone  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on August 10, 2006, 09:03:34 pm
Greetings fellow Klyrophiles   ;D

I still have Xillix's second list of names to add to the main list. Before i do that, I would like you all to go over the list and make some suggestions for meanings.

I feel there are many on the list that are an exellent fit, but want input from the rest of the team.

Thanks everyone  :thumbup:
Qheronner= The grammar's correct, though maybe too long underwater. It could be a rest from a time in which they flew.
Shazzer=Double-lettered. How about Shazer or Shazier(The latter gives off a reptilian "hiss")
Baldurion Ocean= O.o Reminds me of someone.
About "Ocean Names"= Too man long names, imo. Some break against the rule to have short names to more easily speak under water. Yet again, other might have visited this place.
Capilli= Could be called "Capili". High pitched and quick tones used subsurface will make the extra "L" unuseful.
About "Town"= This could be whatever relaxes your snack. I have no insinuations on this other then the apparent vanity on some of the names :P

All well in "Items".
Landscapes too.
Buildings have been approved before so they're all right :)
About "Names"= Gooood, no names with "Bald" in them so far.
Xntr= Is that a name? Maybe "Xantar"?(Kixie?)

There we go, hope that helped.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on August 10, 2006, 10:36:41 pm
OOPS forgot the link in my post  :-[

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23667.msg274454#msg274454

this is the list i was refferring to :)



EDIT: About this double letter thing.

It is my understanding that the double letter prob, is with double vowels. Using 2 constantans is widely accepted and needed for pronunciation. Examples are Ballad, letter, doggy, batter…… and so on. On occasion it is necessary to use two vowels for the same purpose; feet, green and so many more.
This (http://www.thewordlist.com/myPHPnuke/html/doublevowels.php) is a link to double vowel words.
You can see there are many. So I think we need to look at the word and see if it fits, before saying no just because of two vowels.
Title: Re: Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on August 11, 2006, 06:13:30 am
gave some suggestions to my names change what you wish.
Title: Re: Adraax the Klyro's City ... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on August 16, 2006, 07:47:57 am
gave some suggestions to my names change what you wish.

I like a lot of your descriptions and will add my favorites soon to the Adraax list
Title: Re: Adraax : KCP... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on December 30, 2006, 01:39:55 pm
Thread resurrected due to increased participant activity.

BUMP-
Title: Re: Adraax : KCP... Names and Places
Post by: Datruth on December 30, 2006, 03:12:31 pm
What still needs to be named, and where are the lists?

~~Datruth
Title: Re: Adraax : KCP... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on December 30, 2006, 10:49:08 pm
Quote from: Datruth
What still needs to be named, and where are the lists?

~~Datruth
First post. Right now we're in no demand of names but if you can find a witty name and description to an animal or local site/building, be my guest.
Title: Re: Adraax : KCP... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on December 30, 2006, 11:12:36 pm
We still need the street and cannal layout to attach names to.
Title: Re: Adraax : KCP... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on December 30, 2006, 11:40:41 pm
All right. We've got the names but we're lacking 2D concepts of their position. See what we can do about that...
Title: Re: Adraax : KCP... Names and Places
Post by: Proglin on April 28, 2007, 09:21:12 pm
Howcome there's little to no news coming from here?!?

get ya behinds back on the project!



please?
Title: Re: Adraax : KCP... Names and Places
Post by: Baldur on April 28, 2007, 10:30:39 pm
We're on a downslope and we do not know why! I am as concerned as you, Proglin.

News have come, though little news. New KCP concepts are found in the http://adraax.19.forumer.com/ KCP Forum section "Finished Concepts" and "2D Art" in the General Discussion section!

The only active members i've seen have been rast, Inca and Laragorn so kudos to them!
Heed Proglin's call, we have a sack of info. Use it to train your skills or be part of something bigger!

Thank you.
Title: Re: Adraax : KCP... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on April 29, 2007, 04:22:53 pm
We are always open to new members and new ideas. There is still a mountain of things to do, so any help is welcome. :)
Title: not a name but..
Post by: capetorial on May 05, 2007, 04:23:08 pm
well since were klyros, were probly gunna get our city near-last but its good!  for you see, if they do that because were klyros, were probly going to get a town that is fit for flying.  probly venice style with lotsa ladders as an added for the other peoples but more efficient for a klyros
Title: Re: Adraax : KCP... Names and Places
Post by: LARAGORN on May 05, 2007, 04:44:03 pm
Interesting comments. You may want to browse through the Adraax Forums or the different threads in these forums to see how close you are :)

Check the links in my Sig.