PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Talad on June 26, 2006, 07:52:10 pm
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We have prepared a new update for PlaneShift and we need some time to test it on the laanx server. For this reason the server will be down starting from this evening (few hours from now). The test will last few days, during which you will not be able to play PlaneShift.
The update brings some new features, new skins and some new outdoor terrain. You will need a new client to connect, that will be provided in the download section on bittorrent in the next days.
See you soon!
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Woohoo!
Nice one!
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\\o//
Great! Nothing like a message from Talad!
Good luck you guys!
Easton
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/me thinks about withdrawls and their affects and cringes.
But yaaay more skins and more goodies :thumbup:
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Looking forward to the new update! Thanks for the warning Talad. :thumbup:
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/me bows down before Talad
Thank thee for my new skin!
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oh no!! ive already passed my bandwith limit by a couple Gb :-[
but all good news :D
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Woot! :thumbup:
A new update means (hopefully) that :@#\ freeze bug will be gone and I will not crash every 50 minutes.
Now that, in itself, will be sweeeeet!
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* laragorn runs to the tavern to rent the best room for a few days stay.
\\o// Great news, cant wait :thumbup:
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...some new outdoor terrain.
What does that mean exactly? New things on the terrain, similar to the tall grass/shrubs that was added? Or some new area?
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New outdoor terrain basically means new maps :)
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/me twitches
all work and no planeshift make steuben a dull boy
all work and no planeshift make steuben a dull boy
all work and no planeshift make steuben a dull boy
all work and no planeshift make steuben a dull boy
all work and no planeshift make steuben a dull boy
all work and no planeshift make steuben a dull boy
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New outdoor terrain basically means new maps :)
:woot: :woot:
An Explorer's dream! :thumbup:
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Ummm is there going to be a wipe with this update ??
this would be good to know.
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Who cares about wipes ... bring on the newness!
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Yippee... :flowers:
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Yeah! Great news!
* Peeg can't wait to explore new places which no Kran has ever seen before.
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No wipe directly with the update.
<.<
But there might be one at any time >:D One day you will login and you will have been deleted >:D:D:D:D
*more evil laughter and evil stuffs* :P
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Who cares about wipes ... bring on the newness!
Here here!
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I was just booted, the server is DOWN.
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yay new outdoor terrain, i see lag in it as everybody wants to visit :P
new skin \o/ i hope i will get my own nolthrir skin :D
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I was just booted, the server is DOWN.
And so it begins..
Mordaan locks himself in a padded room, preparing for withdrawal symptoms
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Yay new bugs
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Yes, a few days... :sweatdrop:
Well, now I know where I was when the world stopped turnning...
Anyways, im looking foward to the new stuff \\o//
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ah yes i remember it well.....
I was mining gold near the magic shop, the day the world stopped turning....
But where will i be when it starts again ?
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*sighs at the thought of another week long download*
Oh well. I have some...er..things to work on anyways. :)
Good luck all.
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*sighs at the thought of another week long download*
Oh well. I have some...er..things to work on anyways. :)
Good luck all.
More stories!
:D
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Download will be big for this update btw. Some formats were changed so a lot of content will need to be redownloaded. So if you have bandwidth limits, save them a bit! :P
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More stories!
:D
I wondered what all the shouting was about. I could hear you here in the DR... you tring to wake the dead or something? ;D
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will the update be for all os or only for pc?
???
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yay no more 50 min freeze... hopefully :whistling:
uh uh uh can't wait \\o//
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so are we moving beyond the pi client, or is this just an update?
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yay no more 50 min freeze... hopefully :whistling:
uh uh uh can't wait \\o//
I thought it was going to be 'days'?
Though if its 50 minutes, well, im not complaining
Oh wait.... nm, yeah, no 50 min frez :sweatdrop:
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This will be client version 0.3.015.
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hrm sezrenade i'm talking about the annoying 50 minute freeze bug me and many others have :P
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Yes, I erm.... just got that >_<
oh and hopefuly the 'red way' freze too.
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This will be client version 0.3.015.
well. time to kill the clients when i get home.
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This gives me a few questions:
-About how much time would it take to update? (a few days, like 1,2, a week,..)
-What do I have to do to update? Download the new client or just trough the update client
Ty in advance
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The client will be released as soon as internal testing is done - it could take 2-4 days, but there is really no way of predicting how many bugs we may find and have to fix before releasing.
At first you will have the option of redownloading the new client through BitTorrent - it can take a few hours of the day.
Later, probably in a few days, you will have the option of using your game updater to download the new files.
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Woot! :thumbup:
A new update means (hopefully) that :@#\ freeze bug will be gone and I will not crash every 50 minutes.
Now that, in itself, will be sweeeeet!
Was a bug in CS. Yes, fixed.
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The client will be released as soon as internal testing is done - it could take 2-4 days, but there is really no way of predicting how many bugs we may find and have to fix before releasing.
would be nice to see the mac version up at the same time as the others... :sorcerer:
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The team is going to try to get the client out for all versions ASAP :)
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Mmm, can't wait... no, I really can't. I am going to go mad I tell you.
Would it be worth adding a note to the Server Status forum?
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If we get an influx of posts asking what's up with the server in there, I'll probably make a note.
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Nice 1 guys but (I just started playing the game !!!), Dunno if I can get back to my normal life now :P
Might be a good thing in future versions to put some sort of msg saying 'Server Down' when trying to logon. I always check forum games so that's ok, but loads of people never check any kind of forums ...
Anyway. Go on, Hurry up :)
PS: Any Help with the Test Managament (AKA: Bossing everybody arround :-X) let me know. Worked as a Tester as well as a Test Manager ;). Doing Support Management now (not like anybody cares anyway :D)
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Might be a good thing in future versions to put some sort of msg saying 'Server Down' when trying to logon.
hmm back in the days of mb, we used to have that. took it off because of server load. but as karyuu said, if things get annoying a message will be posted on the front of the board, and then routinely ignored.
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praise be
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Mmm, I see my post in the server status forum was deleted. Sorry for trying to be helpful.. wont' happen again. :'(
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I replied with a "you didn't need to post this", and Karyuu replied with the delete button. ;)
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Darn, learn me not to use notify. I only read the third post ;D
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IM LOSSING MY MIND I NEED MY PS
Arireare Jumps Off the sears tower
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I dream for the day that Dermorians can sit... Farren's legs are getting awful tired :P
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Can we get a rough patch/cange log as it stands now? Will more things be made craftable by the public?
Will NPCs increase in intellengince from .5 to 50?
Will there be a way to tell where a good place to mine is without asking other players?
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How very exiting! \\o// New exploration! Perhaps even a new bod for Nolthrir's maybe, hopefully...please?...heh. Well, Praise Talad and pass the ammunition!
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A new outdoor area ... hmm, can I dare you to present at least one teaser shot? ;)
(http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/konfus/a075.gif)
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wat do you mean by new skins ???
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New skins = textures for character models.
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\\o// \\o// \\o//boo ya. this update will be sweet if they need to take the servers down for testing. maybe crafting will be fully implemated. only bad side is i have a mac, and unfortunately it takes a little longer to get the mac version out, and we know that chaos and dfryer will work hard for all use mac users and get it as soon as possible
(now to get off vacation and away from dial-up, and back home to ethernet and high speed wireless and not miss any of this action)
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Glad you're excited, we all are. Little less on the smilies though would be nice. There are forum rules about posting excessive smilies afterall.
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About the new areas: I think it will be Akkaio to be expanded, since Dev has been working on those squares already (I have seen it, the only thing there were walls and some air). And I hope there is gonna be a Stonebreakers' town and maybe even the Bronze Doors...
Anyway, as leader of the scouts of the Dragon Council (Green Dragons' Clan), I'll be the first to check it out :P ...
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WOOOOHOOOOOH i love updates!! ^^ how far was the klyros city? done yet? oooh cant wait till that one is implented!! ::) i'll finally have a bed to sleep in :D *waits patiently for the new update to see what's new*
woohoooh goo devolopers! you guys are amazing ^^ :flowers: for you all! :flowers:
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I will be sometime before the Klyros City is finnish, but everybody is workin hard to get it done :)
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sorry for being impatient, but any clue on when the servers will become operational and we can start again ? ???
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http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23908 (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23908)
Don't apologise for being impatient. Just don't be impatient. ;)
There are no updates to give; please don't ask. You're not going to get anything new until we have something new to tell you.
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will you put new skills in it to? will there finaly be blacksmithing? :offtopic: :)
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(Welcome to the board)
If I remember the crafting IRC session correctly, blacksmithing in general would work, they just did not yet give everyone the required knowledge / material.
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A new Dsar in Ojaveda! Great for Irunor, let's hope he can get back to his real parents.
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More crafting stuffs will be made available at some point after the release. Not sure on the timescale, however.
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Do I read it right:
maps <-- plural
skins <--- plural
Question mark?
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Do I read it right:
maps <-- plural
skins <--- plural
Question mark?
Ahhh...to look like a female demorian...that would be sweet..and to sit \\o//
Think after exploring the new areas first then...I shall sit for a while if I can just because I can..lol
Anfa mumbles.."are we there yet?"
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More crafting stuffs will be made available at some point after the release. Not sure on the timescale, however.
Probably "soon"
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Ahhh...to look like a female demorian...that would be sweet..and to sit \\o//
Yes it would....I mean....uhhh...
On another note, I don't think anybody has actualy said sitting will be implemented, I may be wrong though.
I'm just too lazy to go looking through the whole thread to verify, so I will just state it and somebody will do the work for me...
Oooo I wasn't supposed to type that last line....no biggy, you'll still do the work for me eh :D
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wat about diaboli will they be made into teh game ???
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Since everybody is posting here, thought I should come into the picture too :p
IMO all the questions like "what will we get?" or "when will we get?" are completly useless. I doubt that somebody will answer that because of a simple fact: The only ones able to give us an answer to those questions are the developpers and they are quite busy testing the new release.
As for the suppositions to what will be availeble in the next release I would advise you not have them. Why? because optymists will never be pleasantly surprised. What I'm saying that you'll dream about whole cityes, castles, night-bars and such and maby we'll get only an extra tree :P.
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What I'm saying that you'll dream about whole cityes, castles, night-bars and such and maby we'll get only an extra tree.
Was that a covered up hint? ;)
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GMs can't give hints, they know just about as much as you do. :P
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New features?
like what?
A compass for orientate, maybe?
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No wonder, neither the developers know that :-)
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We have prepared a new update for PlaneShift and we need some time to test it on the laanx server. For this reason the server will be down starting from this evening (few hours from now). The test will last few days, during which you will not be able to play PlaneShift.
The update brings some new features, new skins and some new outdoor terrain. You will need a new client to connect, that will be provided in the download section on bittorrent in the next days.
See you soon!
BOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CANT PLAY ON MY FIRST DAY THE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AND WHAT DUS SKINS MEAN? NEW COLOURS?
:whistling: dont blame me :whistling:
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Since everybody is posting here, thought I should come into the picture too :p
IMO all the questions like "what will we get?" or "when will we get?" are completly useless. I doubt that somebody will answer that because of a simple fact: The only ones able to give us an answer to those questions are the developpers and they are quite busy testing the new release.
As for the suppositions to what will be availeble in the next release I would advise you not have them. Why? because optymists will never be pleasantly surprised. What I'm saying that you'll dream about whole cityes, castles, night-bars and such and maby we'll get only an extra tree :P.
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BOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I CANT PLAY ON MY FIRST DAY THE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AND WHAT DUS SKINS MEAN? NEW COLOURS?
:whistling: dont blame me :whistling:
New skins was already clarified to mean new character skins. Armor textures, alt skins, etc.
Tone it down a bit, please. Of course we'll have a few people starting out hitting the update downtime. We're allways getting new players, so it's bound to happen. Please just be patient. It's worth it.
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Well... another piece of grass in the wilderness would be a huge think already, since programming is just like trying to find a perpetuum mobile: in real, there always seems to be something wrong that makes it not working...
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Oh damn, I bet it's going to be a HUGE tree...with like
LEAVES
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Waylander's totally onto us.
For all you folks wanting a hint:
<Alliva> is the existing teraain ect gonna change ?
<ThomPhoenix> alliva: yes, Hydlaa will be replaced
<joseAway> everyone knows it's too silly
<Bakuun> Hydlaa is going to be replaced by a platform with rats.
<lammas> that sounds awesome :D
<ProteousG> lol
<ThomPhoenix> yes, Bakuun is right!
<lammas> i'll start up a rat farm...
<ThomPhoenix> note that the rats will be us...
<Bakuun> It's the new virtual reality show - who will be booted off first?!
<Easton> then youll need to implement some cheese or soemthing..
<ThomPhoenix> it's the greatest1
<joseAway> The next release won't have player housing, we didn't have room :D instead you will be kept in a cage
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Woo!
That was me in IRC for the 4th time maybe..
making an invaluable contribution to the PS community and developement.
cheese...
[sorry you asked for it Karyuu]
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Doh, in that log you see me typing an 1 instead of an ! for like the 100th time that evening.
But all that was said is true.
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\o/ Rats! And chese! And cages! All under a big tree with like... leaves!
/me can't wait to get the new client :D
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:woot: Oh, I can barely stand the suspense! *Zorbels faints*
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I agree with the "don't be too optimistic" post. It is like sequels to movies. They get hyped up by the fans, who expect such grandiose things that they get extremely disappointed. Although a new city can't be expected for this update, I eagerly await it (along with the disappointed players who suddenly are forced to learn the pain of regenerating outside Hydlaa). Some new skins would be nice as well (if I'm lucky, male Enkidukai armor will be implemented). If new player customization options are implemented, such as hair colors etc., it would be nice if Brintec began selling dyes again, so veteran players could change their character’s appearance without deleting them.
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I've got my torrent client all polished up and I took a plunger to the pipes that lead to the internet. I wont waste time asking what will be new, will there be X, what about Y? I'm just excited there will be *something* new! :thumbup:
As a developer myself (non-game related) there are a few simple truths when it comes to releasing a project this large & complex.
You can have it right, or you can have it now, but you can't have it right now.
The devs don't know what features will or wont make it to the next release. Possibly they've added 100 new features, but only 5 will make it through the quality control process. We'll know shortly after they do anyways, so just keep your torrent app ready, so everyone can get the latest release as soon as possible
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You can always use the history.txt file to get an idea. A lot of it won't make sense but you can get an idea of how much work is actually being done.
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You can always use the history.txt file to get an idea. A lot of it won't make sense but you can get an idea of how much work is actually being done.
Has that moved as of late? I hadn't checked it in months but the last few days I haven't been able to get through.
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Yup, it has been moved here: http://planeshift.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/planeshift/planeshift/docs/history.txt
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Yes, Sourceforge changed the root of all their projects ( which was a pain in itself ).
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Ah thanks. I shall adjust my bookmark. :D
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What I'm saying that you'll dream about whole cityes, castles, night-bars and such ......
I only wish for a flower with which to brighten a lady's day.
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how long this going to take i am ding please tell me exatily how long
hydran throws himself of the tower
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Please stop making such posts. This is now spam.
Any posts asking "How long" will be removed from the discussion.
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how long this going to take i am ding please tell me exatily how long
hydran throws himself of the tower
Don't jump!
"How long" is a question we trow you off the tower for. :P
Why? Because it is the most useless question you could ever ask. Evarrr.
This should be one of the first rulles of PS: "Never, ever, under no circumstance ask "when"" It is actually a not written law.
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Waylander's totally onto us.
Aren't I always!!!!
Kinda...no eh...hmm
And Shava, nice and all, but I think people would get pissed if all that happened was they added a flower :P
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No no, it's brilliant. Next time we'll add a tree to Oja and call it 0.3.016 :D
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A tree in my honour....
I think it is a great idea. Though it must be like me...
We can make it hot....and smart, and it can be an Octarch!
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Myself, I don't really care when. I just know what ever will come in this update I will be happy. Everytime there is an update for anything im always happy :D . Anyone want a flower? :flowers:
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I am another Mac user so I'll also have to wait longer than everyone else... which will be annoying since, if more of Oja is added Siteri will want to celebrate and she won't be able to on the first day! Hopefully there will be a roleplay topic going on so Mac users can still be semi-part of the world before the new Mac client comes out.
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A tree in my honour....
Well, um...
Until bathrooms are implemented, we kind of need all the trees we can get...
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I am another Mac user so I'll also have to wait longer than everyone else...
I can't believe I'm actually happy to be a windows user! I never thought I'd see the day!
*Wipes away a tear*
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i just cannot w8 even downloaded bit torrent to download it when it comeso ut instead of w8in for updater
/me wonders now how i use bittorrent?
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A tree in my honour....
Well, um...
Until bathrooms are implemented, we kind of need all the trees we can get...
Bravo for that Verrilit... he he ...the high grass works well too. ;)
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Msrmalik wakes up not knowing where she is and starts to panic, she try's to look around but it's pitch black what makes it worse is she cant even move. Paralysed and in pitch darkness she grows ever fearsome "have the gods punished me did i unknowingly steal some one's kill" she contemplates a bit more then start's to feel some strong vibration's asif the earth is moving she grows even more worried untill she hears a voice "Dont worry my curious Fenki sleep now for you are safe i will protect you, and when you awaken your world would have changed" Msrmalik ask for a more discriptive response as to what awaits her in the near future but is ignored, So with the power of crystal way she begins to slow her breathing and turns of certain body functions then she falls in to a state of hibernation as she patiently awaits the day that has been promised.
Msrmalik says: (OOC sorry it's just i miss role plsy lol)
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@ white_slayer:
Rather simple. I would recommend "uTorrent" if you are using Windows. It is a single small EXE and runs as is.
Just download the *.torrent file, and open it into uTorrent (after you set it up a little, e.g. some default directories). Wait until it loaded segment by segment from different people who are trying the same all over the world.
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YES, finally someone else who actually understands UTORRENT.
That program is one of the best bit torrent programs out there and is only slightly beaten, once in a while, by bitcomet.
I seriously suggest you Do not get Bit torrent, there are better alternatives.
Bit comet, Azeuras, and Utorrent, are the only ones i'm aware of that can be considered the best.
People more knowledgable than me have said that before and here i say it again.
We really need PS back... lol... I mean the topic shifted over to Making trees so as to get rid of excrement......
When the mods see that, they'll understand how desperate some of us have gotten... lol... maybe that will jolt up the update. :)
I also want to let the mods guess what our next topic will be if they dont' get the update up by tommorow lol.
Don't even ask what the topic will turn into in 2 days.... it's brutal. lol
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I've used all three of the torrents you suggested and more that are not worth mentioning (utorrent, bitcommet and Azureus) i have to say Azurues is the best as long as your comp can handle java bitcommet is not as good as it use to be it seems as if its getting buggier and i have serious seeding problems with it utorent is ok it's just not for me and azurues is the only one that can max my upload speed the others can only max my download thats why i use it i love to seed to my max
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I just want to stay up to date on this post.
Kandrek sniffs the air, the wind changes with the scent of new things.
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i am sorry i will let u throw me off :D
how long this going to take i am ding please tell me exatily how long
hydran throws himself of the tower
Don't jump!
"How long" is a question we trow you off the tower for. :P
Why? Because it is the most useless question you could ever ask. Evarrr.
This should be one of the first rulles of PS: "Never, ever, under no circumstance ask "when"" It is actually a not written law.
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No no, it's brilliant. Next time we'll add a tree to Oja and call it 0.3.016 :D
\o/ And then another tree, and another and in no time PS won't be pre-alpha anymore. By the time we have a forest we'll have the final version of PS :D
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Utorrent All the way.
Smallest foot print.
uses less resorces than any other.
easy to use
enough options to tweak what ya want.
no added bloat ware at all. nothing in it that dosent need to be there.
cant wait, cant wait, cant wait.....................
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Actaully I got news for all, I have tryed all torrent clients or pretty much all. Azureus was the easiest and had best DL and UL rates out of all of em. I usually get to 200kb/s DL and UL speed with it. :P . I guess you could call it my oppinion, but to me its a fact for my PC. Since I did test and get results.
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As a 100% Linux user (Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake - and I just got my free ubuntu, xubuntu and edubuntu cd's today :woot: )
I only use Azureus. The only thing I've got problem with is insufficient seeds or bad torrents.
uTorrent isnt even implented in the package database!
I hope I got enough downl mb left when the update comes out, I seem to have used abuot 80% without knowing :sweatdrop:
(as a new player i've recently downloaded the previous version)
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As a 100% Linux user (Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake - and I just got my free ubuntu, xubuntu and edubuntu cd's today :woot: )
I only use Azureus. The only thing I've got problem with is insufficient seeds or bad torrents.
uTorrent isnt even implented in the package database!
I hope I got enough downl mb left when the update comes out, I seem to have used abuot 80% without knowing :sweatdrop:
(as a new player i've recently downloaded the previous version)
hehe i use to be 100% gentoo userthe amd64 version but because ati drivers are appaling and do more harm than good the only way i could play this game was by installing windows btw gentoo has plenty of bt clients in it's database and gfx cards get 3d accel in the 32bit version you should try it
and btw tssthorn i can get over 300kb/s but its bt so you can only get what bandwith is available and people with higher upload speeds will always get faster downloads because they should be better seeders
and my appologize for taking this soooo far of topic i will not be posting any more and once again sorry (instead of being sorry i should not have posted i know :-\)
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I think the issues with ATI drivers are more or less for any distro, I'm on a gentoo~32 and I switched to nvidia last year.....
However I was an Azureus user until some months ago, then I tried Ktorrent and (maybe cause my download needs are limited
to linux isos and now to the client,I have to admit) I feel happy for this switch (removing lots of java-related packages).
If somebody else is using KDE..... give it a try.
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I think the issues with ATI drivers are more or less for any distro, I'm on a gentoo~32 and I switched to nvidia last year.....
However I was an Azureus user until some months ago, then I tried Ktorrent and (maybe cause my download needs are limited
to linux isos and now to the client,I have to admit) I feel happy for this switch (removing lots of java-related packages).
If somebody else is using KDE..... give it a try.
blah Msrmalik sickens to the thought of using kde and qt the only wm's i use are xfce4 and fluxbox
oh and Dejoweon thank you for making me break my promise of not posting ;)
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blah Msrmalik sickens to the thought of using kde and qt the only wm's i use are xfce4 and fluxbox
oh and Dejoweon thank you for making me break my promise of not posting ;)
[Please don't start the 1000th flame war about "kde is too big and too slow", expecially if you didn't tried
3.5.x (and maybe removing some of the unneeded services - anything is now GPL). My poor little KDE.... :whistling: ]
Dejoweon starts cooking a bitter soup for Msrmalik, the best cure for certain kinds of sickness, he still doesn't
wants to go hunting certain beasts all alone! ;)
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Ok, you're waaaaaayyyyy off-topic here. Please post about the pending update here, and keep tangents to a minimum.
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New version :)
I don't care if just one pond was added, as long as an update means more fun in Yliakum.
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That pond is nothing. There's much much more where that came from. :)
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Shut up!!!
man.. thats mean and you know it!
:o
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That pond is nothing. There's much much more where that came from. :)
thats evil lol i think you deserve this smiley :@#\
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You are asking for it. If you wouldn't ask teasers nobody would give you teasers.
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Ok, but couldn't we have some more detailed anticipations? (no spoilers, just something more about what is goin to be added.....)
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ill take teasers, but screenshots only ;)
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Ok, but couldn't we have some more detailed anticipations? (no spoilers, just something more about what is goin to be added.....)
Stuff
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yeah, here it is
1. Flying Cows
2. Cows that Fly
:P
The more time they spend on the forums the less time they'll spend getting it ready ;)
By the way. Nice work guys :D
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Syliph = GM
Updates are done by Devs ;)
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Since no one has even brought up yet, I'll point it out. How are you all going to RP (if any) the fact that half your known world just switched places on you? There, that should get this train back on the topicness track.
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1 of 2 things..
1.. its always been like this [how its going to be]
2.. something about the gods, or some sort of creating forces blah blah blah.. but probably just act like this is how it always has been
Of course it depends on how much is new..
if new skills are implemented, ill say we made advances in whatever science or art that was implemented
Its hard to RP completely without having to change it when you're in pre-alpha..
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Which is why I added the "(if any)" cluase. ;)
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Since no one has even brought up yet, I'll point it out. How are you all going to RP (if any) the fact that half your known world just switched places on you? There, that should get this train back on the topicness track.
You shouldn't RP that the world has change. The world was like that. ALWAYS. Rping that a river just popped in front of you is wrong. You mean that right now you are excluding Kadaikos from your RP just because it isn't "implemented"? Or you say that there is only one level to Yliakum? That is wrong.
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NO MORE SPOILERS!
I, for one, am eager to explore :detective: and am certain we can RP around any changes/additions/etc.
One question, though...what uis the recommended procedure to check for update completion? I have been:
1) Checking this thread
2) Checking "Show unread posts since last visit"
3) Checking PlaneShift main page News
4) Checking PlaneShift Downloads page
Can I do anything else or is there ONE place I can check to be ready WHEN the update is ready?
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Once an update is ready, a dev will post it on the forum or somebody else will come around and slap all of you.
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You shouldn't RP that the world has change. The world was like that. ALWAYS. Rping that a river just popped in front of you is wrong. You mean that right now you are excluding Kadaikos from your RP just because it isn't "implemented"? Or you say that there is only one level to Yliakum? That is wrong.
Well, yes, but still is a bit uncertain the cause that moves all suddendly to start training a new skill
(it was there since always, but why you decided just now to start training it, even being the son of a famous
artisan of that crafting??)
For the river, well, probably some earth moving near the source moved the flow of an already existing river
from a distant and unexplored area...... So you never saw Kadaikos cause a rock drop blocked the road,
or you didn't found the way to the other levels so you don't know much about them.....
(At least the real world would be naturally subject to changes..... Isn't Yliakum supposed to be in that way?)
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I, for one, am eager to explore :detective: and am certain we can RP around any changes/additions/etc.
One question, though...what uis the recommended procedure to check for update completion? I have been:
1) Checking this thread
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I support that actually. As a new player everything will seem normal to me (of course I'd like to see/know the changes) and it's :-( that I cant play now, so I'd like to be up-to-date when I will be!
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Well, yes, but still is a bit uncertain the cause that moves all suddendly to start training a new skill
(it was there since always, but why you decided just now to start training it, even being the son of a famous
artisan of that crafting??)
to quote myself
if new skills are implemented, ill say we made advances in whatever science or art that was implemented
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If we're going to retcon the positioning of the cities, it'd be funny if there was one person who knew the world used to be different but nobody else believed him/her (Kind of like in that one Star Trek episode where history is changed and only Guinan knows it). We could say that everyone had their memories altered.
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I'd usually go with just the "it was always there" version, but with towns jumpping around... well, call it whatever you want. ;)
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If we're going to retcon the positioning of the cities, it'd be funny if there was one person who knew the world used to be different but nobody else believed him/her (Kind of like in that one Star Trek episode where history is changed and only Guinan knows it). We could say that everyone had their memories altered.
but no one would remember that their memories were altered..
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Heh, the npc's are going to be fun. Not only do they talk to you now, but some run away when you attack them. Well, more like glitchrun away, but that'll be fixed :lol:
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Can I do anything else or is there ONE place I can check to be ready WHEN the update is ready?
I would recommend to watch one specific place:
http://www.planeshift.it/download.html
When there appears any version newer than 0.3.014b, they are ready.
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Or you can just keep hitting refresh on http://laanx.fragnetics.com/bt/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.015.exe.torrent
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[will it be free ???]
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[will it be free ???]
Of course. Planeshift will always be free.
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I WON'T HAVE HORNS ANYMORE!!! \\o//
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New maps would be most welcome if not well we won't be losing anything.I hope something is done about the random crashes as they are very off-putting and i will probaly hear " it's still in dev yadda yadda yadda " but things like that should be high priority on the to do lists.
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Woot! :thumbup:
A new update means (hopefully) that :@#\ freeze bug will be gone and I will not crash every 50 minutes.
Now that, in itself, will be sweeeeet!
Was a bug in CS. Yes, fixed.
:D
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Or you can just keep hitting refresh on http://laanx.fragnetics.com/bt/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.015.exe.torrent
what 'bout the linux clinet... is it just http://laanx.fragnetics.com/bt/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.015.bin.torrent ?
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hopefully you wont have to turn on load all maps just to enter the plantium mine \\o//s
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I never encountered such a problem.... though it shouldn't be a problem unless your client restarts all the time...
I just hope I don't log in to see
>You fell down and died
*cough* :P
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It seems like a larger update, I'm guessing you will see you fell down and died atleast a few times.
And there will be no "business"ing on the CadoTree!!
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what 'bout the linux clinet... is it just http://laanx.fragnetics.com/bt/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.015.bin.torrent ?
Probably yes.
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I've used all three of the torrents you suggested and more that are not worth mentioning (utorrent, bitcommet and Azureus) i have to say Azurues is the best as long as your comp can handle java bitcommet is not as good as it use to be it seems as if its getting buggier and i have serious seeding problems with it utorent is ok it's just not for me and azurues is the only one that can max my upload speed the others can only max my download thats why i use it i love to seed to my max
sorry, i don't mean to bring the topic back to torrent downloaders, but noone seems to use edonkey (or emule for linux). im just saying :) you can unlimit your up and download speeds and i think its better than azureus.
anyway, the reason im posting is i was wondering if for the first couple of weeks its going to take a really long time to download, cause only a few people will have it on their machines at first, right? so we will have to wait for them to be online, and even then there will be like, i dunno, the entire population of Yliakum trying to download from one poor guy's computer.
i might be way off here, it was just a thought I was having,
Kimhari
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well, i vow to seed for a long long time!
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I will be pumping it out at 250KB, for as long as i can :)
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It depends on a few things. If you are lucky enough catch it very early (and I don't know since I have never had that happen) your dl speed will be limited to the upload speed of the initial seeder. Again, I am assuming we start with a single seeder? Once a few people have finished it and keep seeding it, it will depend more on your isp speed. If you have a broadband connection, it will likely go faster. For me it usually took about 90 mins for preivous versions. It also depends on the size of the file...not sure how big this one will be compared to the other versions before it.
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Lol, I just registered an account and was ready to play until I saw the server was "failed". Unlucky me! ;D
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Lol, I just registered an account and was ready to play until I saw the server was "failed". Unlucky me! ;D
Same here! Can't wait to play the game. Any idea how many updates it will take to even get it to beta? Lots and lots and lots, right? Or is it more a question of years?
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uuummmmm Yep :)
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Any idea how many updates it will take to even get it to beta? Lots and lots and lots, right? Or is it more a question of years?
We're still at major version 0.3 right now (minor .015), so not even 1.0. Beta would probably be.. 0.5+, maybe? It's going to take a few years :)
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Any idea how many updates it will take to even get it to beta? Lots and lots and lots, right? Or is it more a question of years?
We're still at major version 0.3 right now (minor .015), so not even 1.0. Beta would probably be.. 0.5+, maybe? It's going to take a few years :)
Ok, thanks for the info and all those that are working on making what looks like a great free MMORPG, I look forward to playing and hopefully helping with any feedback etc. :P
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We have prepared a new update for PlaneShift and we need some time to test it on the laanx server. For this reason the server will be down starting from this evening (few hours from now). The test will last few days, during which you will not be able to play PlaneShift.
have a question wouldnt having a backup server allow for testing(change the port for devlopment (like now))? Thus keeping the current laanax.fragnetics.com server up and running...you could post a message saying server will change in a few days all clients must be upgraded for change..then have a version check in the client tell the end user that there was an upgrade you have to go get it to play. this way theres no down time in the game(as you evan in the alpha testing stages have a massive player base 'Accounts 251,664'.
if its a matter of another server (mysql as you must (as you all have this setup really well) know can duplicate(with a dump of current info) the current db...allowing for a duplicate server (heck with a bit of work it can piggyback the mysql data too on the second server(must have this in place as you have said in the forums you are going to have MORE leafs i assume.)
if its a matter of funds..maybe i can donate either a server (space) or pay for a second one at fragnetics.com(if not too much as this is for development perposes only...
i assume you are testing things like connections and varous other varibles with the new info being added..but to strip the current user base as big as it is from play for a few days..that seams bad to me...i can see a few hours...but with a development server in hand not only can you get farther in development but you can test connections (hub to leaf same time servers ie irc servers connecting for server load) as well as quickly upgrade versions... and have vertualy no down time...(save downloading a new client by a user from time to time when the changes are placed to the main running server)
just my two cents.. i will continue to play and i will continue to help anyway im allowed too as i think this is a great game and i thank you for designing it :thumbup: ...just trying to point out something you may have overlooked or may not. just as i said my two cents
have a great day cant wait for the added content!!!
/me jumps up and down with happy feet in antisipation. \\o//
shuts up now :-X
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have a question wouldnt having a backup server allow for testing(change the port for devlopment (like now))?
That's the funny thing. Laanx IS the test server and we ARE the testers! ;)
if its a matter of funds..maybe i can donate either a server (space) or pay for a second one at fragnetics.com(if not too much as this is for development perposes only...
You should probably talk with Talad or a dev about that, but if you're willing to actually buy them another server, I don't think they will complain much ;)
But do understand that the current server is sponsored, so a possible second server would require someone to pay for the hosting costs, too.
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i believe he was refering to "closed testing" ;)
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You can do that yourself by building your own server from CVS, but it takes a lot of patience and help from #planeshift-build I can tell you :lol:
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There is also a matter of 'trust' as well. Not saying that you guys are not trustworthy but on a test server there would have to be significant amount of data that should never be released to the public and could contain things like quest results or combat equations and the like. Stuff that if it was leaked could set back development.
The second server is a good idea and I'm sure we will figure out something in the future to help reduce the downtime.
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I'm sure after some sort of weeding out process (length of time on PS, character witnesses etc) a few players could be picked to help test, in the closed testing sort of way. Keep up the good work!
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Well, that's where GMs can step in too :)
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BINGO!
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so the 1 person i see in the game right now is just running around testing every new thing they just updated?
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I believe so.
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that would be some fun stuff :D
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yes i was talking about a closed testing system...
and yes i willing to donate but would have to look into cost factors...
as for the idea of it all..im sure they will come up with something at one point..but with OVER 1/4 a million players in alpha testing id say it was a hit to say the least...and is worthy of expansion...(case the update right now)...
i relaly enjoy the game alot myself...
just added my two cents...no biggie...just a comment.
awaiting the new content
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If the game is half as good as it looks, and bearing in mind I've dropped $30 - $50 on trashy games (True Crime: NYC for example), a free game like this, i could see donating a few bucks for!
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If the game is half as good as it looks, and bearing in mind I've dropped $30 - $50 on trashy games (True Crime: NYC for example), a free game like this, i could see donating a few bucks for!
ditto, i don't think people mind donating if they really enjoy the game
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WHEN CAN WE PLAY AGAIN? WHICH DAY BECAUSE IM SO BORED ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY :thumbdown: ???
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since "when?"="how long will it take?" i guess you won't be getting an answer... despite the YELLING! :flowers:
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oops sorry i was on caps lol man i hate that key :sweatdrop:
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WHEN CAN WE PLAY AGAIN? WHICH DAY BECAUSE IM SO BORED ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY :thumbdown: ???
Dude, caps are not only considered "yelling" on the forums, they are just plain annoying. As is the question, since the information is all in the thread already:
[...] The test will last few days, [...]
The server will be up again when they are done testing and consider it to be stable or at least safe to use. It's a lot better this way than having a fatal bug which, say, randomly deletes your inventory... ;)
SO PLEASE CHILL AND LOSE THE CAPS ;-)
EDIT: hehe I see you found the caps lock key :love:
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we'll only have a series of annoying bugs that crash the client for three weeks as they get worked out.
but uyaem, the answer is soon(tm)
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BTW isn't a few considered 3-7?? It's only been a couple (2) days. Relax and it'll come. If this helps, some of us just d/l it, and can't even start yet :(
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Right there with you ryvis... :(
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Ain't life a pain? lol i stumble across this seemingly brilliant idea of a game, executed seriously, and i have to wait to try it... the price you pay for free!
:offtopic: What / who are you planning on creating? :offtopic:
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lol yes it is.
im planning on making a klyros and his name will, of course, be myrthe. how about you?
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I hope you do understand Steuben was joking (well, kinda, as new releases tend to be a bit unstable) right?
Right?
So, it won't be 3 weeks before you can play ;)
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we can only hope...lol
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Even better, I downloaded it (only 4 hours, so not too bad) and got to play, albeit completely confused and died nearly 20 times, for about 4 hours and then the next morning I wake up and the server is down... alas, like someone just said, Its the price to pay for free... but I would like to add: Pimp. This is by far the best free mmorpg out there. This community is also the best i've come across. Hand on the back to everyone.
k-
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it took you 4 hours? mine only took 2 and a half...hmmm...plus my comp isnt particularly fast.
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I must agree, from what I've gathered, this is quite the game they are creating. The day the final version is done (whenever that may be ;)) will be a day in video gaming lore for years... it's free, so it's price point is superb, it's screen shots alone are quite stunning, and the sheer idea of people doing this just for the love of it is quite nice to see, usually the mob mentality is destructive.
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Mabey it was less. I just remember watching a movie and it was just finishing as the credits rolled. So probably more like 2 then.
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Weird, the dl usually takes me 10-15 mins.
Anyway, that day in lore aint coming for a good 20 years.
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All good things come to those who wait.
I think that was a quote from Road Rage on the Genesis...?
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i can't wait till the new server come out i'm really excited. \\o//
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ya first things first, im concerned about the server, not the complete game.
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Just to give some insight about how things normally progress here's the normal steps we go though.
1) Main server is stopped.
2) All componet source code is updated ( cvs/svn )
3) A full rebuild is started of all components
4) Database updated from an upgrade schema ( thank god for that, since database changes are a total pain )
5) A test client is packaged including new artwork/levels/sounds/whatever
6) New data is loaded into database for new items, equipment, quests, etc.
7) We test on the new server to figure out any obvious issues
8 ) An 'official' client is packaged
9) Data is placed in the updater system
10) Server restarted and released to the playing public.
Right now we are at around stage 5/6
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thanks for the update :)
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Sweet! Keep up the good work!
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guess they got done with part 4 right before he fixed his number 8 from being a smiley
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Thanks Acraig for the update. :)
1 question; How many people are involved with step #7 ?
Lets face it there is a lot of area to cover.
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Sometimes the steps are not quite in sequence since several of us work on different parts at the same time. But the server has been rebuilt ok and was running so it's a matter now of making sure the database has any new data that is needed. We also have an issue with portals ( not real portals, it's an engine portal ) that we are trying to solve before releasing the updated client.
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Thanks Acraig for the update. :)
1 question; How many people are involved with step #7 ?
Lets face it there is a lot of area to cover.
When I say 'obvious' I mean very obvious. Stuff like "OMFG server crashes whenever somebody logs in", that sort of level of testing. After that we make it public and usually for a few days after that there is a few gigabytes of core dump files because players have found all sorts of new bugs. So the first week of public release is really our #7. We also have test case documents that we try to use to make sure stuff that used to work still works.
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Thanks for the quick responce :)
Good luck on the rest of the testing, and once again, Great work !!
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Yes I agree good work, first thing I will do is explore. Then I will shout out send it to my email .... lol ... hehe sorry I know bad joke from the other thread. Somtimes I think people get so parenoid about somone explaining somthing even though they don't do it them selves. I mean really come on people like i would do such a thing.
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i dunno if this already has been answered but if oja road wont be oja road anymore (since of moving) what wil it be called ::|
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3066 views in 3 days. I think that 'we are on step 5' part should be stuck topside on this thread.
Thanks for the update acraig.
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i am new to this type of posting; i hope i do it well.
i for one downloaded PS client months ago, but only activated it for use 2 weeks ago.
as i recall, it took weeks, not minutes for me to get the download, being unfamiliar with any of the XXtorrent applications.
for various reasons, the download did not work properly and getright was not allowed, so i kept having to re-start from scratch. i am ready this time with utorrent and am willing to give it a go.
mostly, i want to sincerely thank everyone for the new friends i've made, the developers for their active interest in the wants of their players, and the people in the platinum mines for putting up with my singing. :)
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Welcome to PS Glad to have you with us.
I hope yor download of the updated client goes a little smoother :)
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:o I have been checking in for two days now.....I think you have driven me crazy enough now. Please, turn the game back on :) or else I will end up in the loony bin here way down under :sweatdrop: ::|
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The devs still haven't answered the question of why they didn't leave PS online and leave our server running.
I know they needed it down for the test, and also for adding the updates.
BUT why not use a test server, or create one.
It's not like they CAN'T, there is nothing stopping them.
And if there is I'd like them to name it.
Frankly, it is bad policy to take off a game for extended periods of time.
I'm sure they lost a good 100 new users or something like that.
So please, devs, answer, why you haven't created some sort of test server?
Please don't dodge my question either.
Thanks for your time, looking forward to the update :) :woot: :thumbup: :D \\o//
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The devs still haven't answered the question of why they didn't leave PS online and leave our server running.
I know they needed it down for the test, and also for adding the updates.
BUT why not use a test server, or create one.
This already has been answered, just the answer is a bit complex. Only in this very minute, I can think of these few reasons:
1) There should be only one server, to use not only academic test cases, but real data.
2) There must be a shutdown at least to convert the database - which is closely related to 1)
3) It has been stated over and over: We are testers first, and players second. The "job" of all registered "players" is technology testing.
Thinking further, I would probably find more.
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@Datruth
And I am quite sure that it is a question of funding - as in new server(computer), bandwidth and many other things. Have you read the previous posts?
Oh, no, wait sec. On second thought I agree with you. The devs are all evil, EVIL I tell ya. ;D Lemme get my hands on one :devil:
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I'm sure they lost a good 100 new users or something like that.
But we haven't lost any good users, because good users understand and have patience :) It's not like the team is losing money from those who haven't the patience to stick around.
Laanx is a test server, and you are the main testers. This is a simple, minor inconvenience that the community is very capable of dealing with, and surviving. If not playing a game for a few days is that devastating, people need to rethink their lives ;D
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Simply put, Laanx is a test server and we don't really care if it's down for upgrades for a bit. We don't care that you're whining, and your whining won't make it magically get setup any faster. Just be patient and go do something else for a few days, please.
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I'm sure they lost a good 100 new users or something like that.
People come and go from planeshift all the time, and will continue to do so. As long as there are testers, it doesn't matter. Most of these people if they did leave for the reason, that the dev's shut down the server to the public so that they could test and make sure everything was working before bringing it back up for the public to access ... then they weren't good testers in the first place. They have gone through many updates and client changes and people still come to play. I remember when the NPC's were down for almost three weeks. Guess what, there are still players from that time still here in planeshift. Patience is a wonderful gift. It is a shame not everyone has it ....
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I remember the NPC server being down for a while at one point nit sure if it was what your talking about, but I remember it had been down for 3 days or more at one point. I actaully think its kinda fun when it goes down cause it causes more people to go mining aor go to the plaza to have some fun RP.
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An update! :thumbup:
I think qualify as an oldbie (hanging around since end AB, early MB) and you know what? You get used to the downtime, you get used to waiting for a new client (especially for a bit more exotic systems, like my AMD64 GNU/Linux), you learn how to laugh roleplayingly at bugs in game.
I won't lie - I do miss people who stopped playing for one reason or another (Ralin, Kada-El, Xenia and Xylonias for example), I also miss some characters of people who are still around (like CadRipper and Havena). But people come and people go, there's nothing you can do about it. But let me tell you - players who really enjoyed PlaneShift usually come back after a bigger update, if there's nothing bigger stopping them from playing ...I'm sure most of those who I miss would be still playing (or again), if it was just an updating thing - most of the people I miss don't have the time to play anymore or another big reason, because of which they would stop playing even if the server was always online and updates went smoothly all the time.
Remember: it's about the quality of the game, the world and the characters ...not about the quantity of the players.
That "you're tester first, player second" thing is something you have to consider, but rather in the way of "if you see a bug, explore it and report it nicely, but still enjoy the game" - as oposed to playing and just bitching about bugs.
edit: spelling typo
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It is important, for avoiding further problems after the update, to test as best as possible the server.
You would get even more annoyed if instead of being the server down as it is right now, you would be able to play and the server would crash every 5 seconds or you would get stuck every time you move in a certain location.
There are reasons, of course, for which certain choices are made. Of course, players might get tired, but at the moment PS is not a finished game, fighting for the number of players (even though, the number of players that are active is a source of satisfaction for the people working on it), but it is still in full development!
It takes a lot of time to actually put up another server with all the data. And we would need to have a place where to actually store such server. As far as I could remember, there was a period during which we had one. Now it is not like that anymore and we can't surely try our best on our machines.
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ok...in all honesty i tried ot read al lthe replys on this thread...but 15 pages worth??
anywho, im going to try not to complain too much about te updates....im happy wiht everyhting ive seen so far so im sure there is a good reason for this
when i first downloaded ps is was off of one of the mirrors because for some reason bittorrent did not like my computer...
am i goping to have to try again to download bittorent or will there be mirrors for the new version?
sorry fo the inconvience this may cause
*huggggggg*
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I cant wait until the new update is ready im gonna go exploring the new tree we will have :D. i hope it will running by tmorrow then i will be ablet ot play it b4 i go away but i doubt it will.
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Just wanting to watch this one too. How is the testing going? As well what is the anticipated wait time for the new client download?
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andrek they said somewhere in the thread it would be a big download i doubt it would be bigger than 100mb so it might take bout 2hrs on a broad band (this is just a guess so dont take this as a final answer)
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I'd like to think the part of that fellow[datruth]'s post [where he suggests 100+ new users got lost] is about, new fresh crisp from the dl users... I was thinking of posing this mention i'm making when the server was first closed to the public, but at the time figured this would be updated sooner than my laziness would ebb...that having been said, let's get back to what i was getting at: New users, who have just dled the client... not trying to moan n whine about it -- but [EDIT: I may be way off base with this question as seen in gondric's below post etc]--WHY? Why are there still links up on the main page to dl the client? If it's about laziness; my hat's off to you... mean i thought of this days ago & procrastinated this long, so i can respect a healthy degree of sloth... If any of you are wondering "To whom is the hat off??"--it's you. because none of you took down the links or posted a warning like "Downloading this outdated version of the client will waste your hd space, bandwidth, energy and time." and don't go thinking you're unworthy of praise for your inaction just cause you didn't have access--if you were less lazy you'd hack the site. Can't hack?--if you were less lazy you'd learn how... Getting the idea yet? good... so yea; if laziness: Congrats!--if just an oversight; we all miss something sometimes, just something to be aware of..
PS- [heh get it; PS on PS Forums hehe]--
Gondric-- I'm with you, i may be starting a new job monday, hope i get to play before i am reduced to 4 non sleeping hours at home...(oops, now you posted that last bit while i was typing- and now i am a lil confused--i'd understood it was going to be a new full client, not just an update)
Andrek-- I don't think it takes a dev to answer your queries: testing is going like the enegizer bunny; keeps going & going...Anticipated wait time... i'm gonna go ahead & pretend you mean the actual dl time, not when it will be relased-- the answer to that is that it will depend on your own connection, and how many other seeds/peers are on when you download..
Kalila-- If previous updates are anything to go by, it will also be mirrored but when first realeased way easier (for yourself & hosts) if you just use utorrent or a similar torrent client.
Datruth-- I'm sure if you're offering to fund, support & maintain another server we'd all encourage you. Otherwise i think you may want to work on how you show grattitude; here you get to play a game & be involved in its development process for free. The people working on it aren't paid for it [unless they work on it while goofing off at other jobs]. People have suggested splitting the server; but lets face it, if possible, that just means more work for them, and that means a longer wait for updates. And even if it didn't, the server has enough issues without splitting it. Anyway, all that aside (hope nobody other than you minds me being so 'holier than thou', but i think it's gotta be said) you act like a petulent child who is given a privelledge, like his own room, then when forced to spend a few nights sharing with siblings so the father can work on the plumbing, complains that the dad should convert his den to a new temporarty room for this complainer, like the kid's entitled or something.. Should be grateful the higher ups round here are more forgiving than me :ban: ; I'd probably toss the kid in the garage or the shed or the doghouse. The plumbing is for everyone's benefit. Guess it's lucky I don't have kids... or a house... or a viscious dog... :offtopic: but back to the point-- Boo-Hoo you're put out for a few days; apart from the ones WORKING on it, so is everyone else, but nobody else seemed to act as snide & entitled about it as you. If i was woking on it I'd probably be even more bothered by your post, and if i was in any position to i'd try for some sort of disciplinary action like suspending your account a few days after the update just for the disrespect... Clearly no one in a posion of authority is as unforgiving as me in this case...
BUT why not suspend your account, or ban it.
It's not like they CAN'T, there is nothing stopping them.
And if there is I'd like them to name it.
Frankly, it is bad policy to take flak off an ingrate for any periods of time.
I'm sure they lost a good 100 new users or something like that. so what's one more?
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...ok, at this point even reading my preview of this i can't help the overwhelming desire to reply to the post I'm writing just to say "You make good points, very erudite. But do you really need to flame the guy so much?" ... So i'll admit the sentiment was expressed harsher than it needed to be, but the general idea remains: I am unimpressed with your peculiar way of saying "I like this free game a lot!! I wish i could play it right now!! It bothers me that I cannot."
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That's it?
I mean come on, tell the kid how you feel, Anne :P
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they said it would be in the updater anne after the bittorent so i guess that u wont have to download a whole client but use the updater. well i hope thatsd the case or its gonna cost me some bandwidth
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To the team of Planshift....Just a huge HUG because even thought some of us really play the game alot and miss it we think that you folk are doing a grand job and would not switch even if we are the last "100" people in the game :D You are doing a fantastic job and we all wait patiently to see what new things you have for us to test out for you. Hey, its not often us poor folk can find a game this good and exciting to play where it doesnt cost us our food money for the week .....Keep up the good work :) Moira
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Well... after all this 'I can't wait' :'( and 'Shut up an be patient' :o stuff... Maybe we can use the time for something more constructive... Did anybody waste a thought yet on what the name of the new tree should be? I would suggest 'Yggdrasil' but that might raise expectations to high again... >o)
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Isn't that from thor? :detective:
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The tree should be named "Tree" so we won't confuse it with other trees.
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It's the Cadotree, it is decided. Named after me for my valiant...umm..acts of umm...FLIRTING!
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Flirting with a tree? ::|
I'll make sure I stay away from it... :-X
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i was reading and i saw somewhere in this thread that updates like these make people quit PS...(i dont know where to find it to quote it lol)
on the contrary, updates like these make people want to play the game even longer because it introduces new ideas, skills, etc that they can play around with. and during the 2-3 days that the server is down everyone gets so anxious that most people stay rather than leave.
Quoting someone:(who)
thats my two trias.
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ok i think im a little late but what is up with everybody and the tree i mean they are probablr going to make way more than one tree they might make 500 for all we know so if we are going to name them all we better start now or we could be in big trouble :offtopic: :sorcerer: :surrender: :whistling: :woot: X-/
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i was reading and i saw somewhere in this thread that updates like these make people quit PS...(i dont know where to find it to quote it lol)
on the contrary, updates like these make people want to play the game even longer because it introduces new ideas, skills, etc that they can play around with. and during the 2-3 days that the server is down everyone gets so anxious that most people stay rather than leave.
Quoting someone:(who)
thats my two trias.
Umm, I think you may have misread, I could be wrong though. It's not as much updates like these, it was the update to CB that made many people leave PS. The community became less of a family and more a bunch of different clubs. I've just barely stuck around whereas in MB I was here daily.
I find the community ties were much stronger back then, but that is to be expected with a smaller number of people. Whereas we had Zetsumei and Kixie (Who has improved...and always rocked in my books anyways) and got through it pretty easy, now we have Zanzibar, and though he is a lesser evil than Zetsumei, he has caused more damage community wise.
The MB players loved it for the family feeling, that's why they left...atleast, as far as I can gather.
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i hope they come out with the download on the mirror on the same day as the torrent my computer hates utorrent,azerus,etc.I get 31 peers and 20 seeds and it only downloads 5.7 kilabytes per second :( (i have dsl lite)
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If it were today, that would rock. Why? Cause it's by birthday!!! O--)
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Well, happy birthday, Ahriman. :flowers:
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i hope they come out with the download on the mirror on the same day as the torrent my computer hates utorrent,azerus,etc.I get 31 peers and 20 seeds and it only downloads 5.7 kilabytes per second :( (i have dsl lite)
U oppened firewall ports ? Also, what's your max upload ? I would set the torrent program to max upload of 80% of your real max upload (You can check your max upload here http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp)
Anyway, Don't even DARE to release it on Friday afternoon/night. I want to go to the beach :P
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Congratiulations then Ahriman! :)
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Umm, I think you may have misread, I could be wrong though. It's not as much updates like these, it was the update to CB that made many people leave PS. The community became less of a family and more a bunch of different clubs. I've just barely stuck around whereas in MB I was here daily.
That's correct ...OK, some *did* quit because of waiting forever for the Linux or Mac port - but mainly it was in the big migration and char wipe from MB->CB
I find the community ties were much stronger back then, but that is to be expected with a smaller number of people. Whereas we had Zetsumei and Kixie (Who has improved...and always rocked in my books anyways) and got through it pretty easy, now we have Zanzibar, and though he is a lesser evil than Zetsumei, he has caused more damage community wise.
The MB players loved it for the family feeling, that's why they left...atleast, as far as I can gather.
Hear, hear!!!
I still miss those times every now and a then ...it was that we were just so tighter together :'(
But I think we're still evolving ...right now we're just in the stadium where we just got introduced to guilds, trading, magic, fighting and training. I always look forward to updates - I might not always be 100% happy with what happens when they come out. Very much not so when suddenly there's a vast amount of noobies (which I usually really like, if they're good RP-ers!) who just don't get (yet) what PS is all about and try to play it as a hack'n'slash. Also sometimes I don't like some feature when they come out - but then again, you have to look at it all in the whole picture and remember that the picture's still faaaaaaar from complete. It's pleasant, but still needs some new layers of colour, some parts are still blank and some need some more work on them.
I would even be so bold to say, that I don't see a point in bitching at all until I see the :beta:
Until then I think we just need to support our lovely devs in all the ways we can, report bugs, make suggestions and _constructive_ criticism. ....ok, the same applies for the beta as well (and the later versions) - but the point is that PS is pre-alpha and until it reaches beta there is no telling what all can happen. The devs know it's not perfect, they know it needs improving, but right now they have more work to do on adding features and content. Of course these features need to be implemented as good as possible, but the beta is where the big tweaking will happen ....or at least, that's how I see it.
P.S. Some may wonder what we had in MB then at all - well, crystals, the world and a _LOT_ of imagination and team play :sorcerer:
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well waylander i may have because i cant remember where i saw it but i know it was somewhere else besides anne's post. but im pretty sure that it was quote "updates like this".
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I remember in MB when the crystals stopped spawning for about a week, there was alot of RP and hags games when that happened lol
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:offtopic:
having read all 17 pages, so far, i would like to address the idea of maturity
1) yes, i realize many of us are only here because we are not actively playing "the game" and are therefore bored. it is not a valid excuse for posting the same vent over and over.
2) patience IS a virtue, but many of us, me included, find it in short supply. accept this as an excercise in it.
3) the PS team IS creating an imaginitive ideal... a place we can go to forget the RL monsters which are much worse than a tefusang. that is worth waiting for.
4) those who have been playing a long time and have maxed out on their statistics tend to forget that us newer people CAN easily get killed by those itty bitty monsters. some of us, "slash and hackers" only wish to grow strong enough and wealthy enough to do the interesting things without the threat of being killed on the way to Oja, over and over.
5) happy birthday ahriman (the post was way back there, i hope i spelled the name correctly)
6) if necessary, i COULD start singing on this post???...and i KNOW that nobody wants that... :)
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Well said Dales Lierin.
This thread really is rambling all over the place...
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then we could lock it *hint*hint* ;)
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This thread should remain open so the dev's can use it as a means of communicating it's revival. (this is the section the home page notice links to, so I think it's be yet another way to let peolpe know... COME PLAY! We all know posting it right on the main page doesn't work, because of all the "The server is down" whining)
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on the contrary, updates like these make people want to play the game even longer because it introduces new ideas, skills, etc that they can play around with. and during the 2-3 days that the server is down everyone gets so anxious that most people stay rather than leave.
Bimonthly downtime periods, because the server is upgraded one week or two before their client is ready, endear this game a lot to mac users then.
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4) those who have been playing a long time and have maxed out on their statistics tend to forget that us newer people CAN easily get killed by those itty bitty monsters. some of us, "slash and hackers" only wish to grow strong enough and wealthy enough to do the interesting things without the threat of being killed on the way to Oja, over and over.
So can my char still :P
I meant those that don't role play at all - like "yo, d00d! whazzap? you know i bet eye c0u1d frag y00 so bettah in <insert_something_totally_off_topic_here".
I like noobies - ask anyone who knows me in game :D I find little as rewarding then helping a fresh player in PS.
I just dislike players who don't want to role play - newcomers or not. It just happens that usually after a major update there's usually bound to come a vast number of noobies and with them a great number of those kind that don't want to RP.
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I only lock as a last resort. The thread is fine; just needs to stay on-topic and stop repeating itself. ;)
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ok
then do we have an update of what step we are on. ya know cuz last time we were on step "5/6"
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i hope they come out with the download on the mirror on the same day as the torrent my computer hates utorrent,azerus,etc.
thet did that with the first cb release. poor servers. they melted under the strain. some recovered, some were never heard from again.
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i hope they come out with the download on the mirror on the same day as the torrent my computer hates utorrent,azerus,etc.
thet did that with the first cb release. poor servers. they melted under the strain. some recovered, some were never heard from again.
wow i guess ill have to wait for a few more days or start kicking my computer to get Utorrent downloading above dialup speed :@#\
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Lol, you sound like... um... Dunno, you sound funny XD Maybe I have an idea... Maybe you can do that, bu tmaybe make a limit like 2000 downloads a day. that way the servers won't get strained as much. Maybe less.
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then we could lock it *hint*hint* ;)
Naw. if you close the thread then you will have a million new topics with people whinning. At least here they are contained to one spot. Just don't feed the ramblers (With words) and all shall be quiet eventually. This has happened every update and new client release. Just the norm around here ......
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i have a question that i have not seen yet for those of you "old timers" who have weathered the shifting sands of new client downloads. when this happens will the characters be "wiped"? i saw hints that we might not appear where we left off. does this mean we will all start over? or does the database retain the character stats?
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Liminting the amount of d/l's per day would mean that people would wait until midnight, and then all 2000 would hit at once. then no more for the rest of the day. If thousands of people d/l this, and a couple hundred seed it, we'll ALL be laughing.
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Just an idea...
Anyways...
@Dales: What they mean by "You may not continue from where you left off" is that let's say that you were in Jayoses library at the time, but after the update, you may be in a different place because Jayose's library was moved.
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I have heard of no database wipe. The devs would have surely warned us of that way ahead of time.
The reason for chars not starting where they left off is only because Ojaveda has been moved around a bit. So the exact coordinates you were at last might no longer correspond to a place on the map. So they might shift your location if you were in one of these places or just send you back to your race's spawnpoint. This is to simply avoid logging back in to find yourself in mid air, plummeting to the great crystal to your death. So I think your inventory should be safe. :)
..then again I could be wrong. :devil:
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Hi, Why don't you put a quick guide in how to speed up your Torrent downloads ? This should benefit everybody. Maybe put it on the same page with the new release ?
Something like:
HowTo SpeedUp my Download (Please read before downloading PS)
Before doing anything, please ensure PS is the only Torrent you are downloading.
1. Ensure you have oppened the required BitTorrent ports in your firewall
2. Find out your Maximun Upload (You can use this speed test http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp)
3. Configure your BitTorrent client to use 80% of your max upload speed so there is no chocking (If your client does not have this option you can use uTorrent, BitTornado, Azureus ...)
4. Sit back, Enjoy the speed and let others enjoy it once you have finished your download (Did you know you can still play the game after downloading the game ?, You still have 20% of your bandwith for PS
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Case in point... ANOTHER server question in the forum.... people don't like reading i guess.
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its official my brain is already beginning to rot this summer vacation TT.TT whats 80% of 125??? :-[
thanks :P i think i better buy brain age or something
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100
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Of course its good that update`s comming. Just one question about new client. WIll be available only throw bittorrent or there will also be a link in download section? :innocent: Thanks for answer.
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GL, Dev-boys. I wish you all the best in your dream to implement maps, skins and new features :thumbup:
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Does anyone know if the new version will be posted on all or most torrent sites not just bittorrent
Cant wait for the updates :sweatdrop: \\o//
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That depends on who posts it. If you want it ot be, go post it before the others do, or wait until someone else psts the .torrent
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All torrent discussion is now to be posted here (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23951.0;topicseen)
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Does anyone know if the new version will be posted on all or most torrent sites not just bittorrent
Torrent sites? The tracker used with be on laanx.fragnetics.com. The .torrent file will be available here (http://www.planeshift.it/download.html). Just download the .torrent file and open it in any bit torrent client. utorrent is probably the best.
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What's the point on using multiple trackers? It just slows things down.
Bittorrent doesn't need "mirrors", that's the great thing about it.
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i have a question that i have not seen yet for those of you "old timers" who have weathered the shifting sands of new client downloads. when this happens will the characters be "wiped"? i saw hints that we might not appear where we left off. does this mean we will all start over? or does the database retain the character stats?
I do believe eventually there will be one major wipe ... meaning everything goes. Stats, skills, weapons, trias, experiance, etc.
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then my logic is reversed on the klyros. but it would still be good to get farmiliar with the race that you plan to use after the wipe.
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No wipe directly with the update.
<.<
But there might be one at any time >:D One day you will login and you will have been deleted >:D:D:D:D
*more evil laughter and evil stuffs* :P
So, no wipe yet.
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Thank you Devs for putting up with some of the crap we give you. I do look forward to any additional ifno you put here.
As well I am not recieveing email notifications to the replies (I know that was a side note)
Is there a way we could get a daily update every 24 hours or so?
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hows is the update coming can everybody plaese inform us about the progress
i mean it could be :beta: if u brings us info on the steps and wat
is happening that would be more comfortable :thumbup:
i am sure people would be happier tooo :D
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If people can post update reports, they will :) There is no point to asking.
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hows is the update coming can everybody plaese inform us about the progress
i mean it could be :beta: if u brings us info on the steps and wat
is happening that would be more comfortable :thumbup:
i am sure people would be happier tooo :D
I know there are a lot of posts, but read through the thread and you will get your answers :)
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Again, they could update us, or update the GAME... take your pick.
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:detective: good point ryvis, hope it will be soon though i miss my ps :'(
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Question: Are all the clients (Win32, Linux32, Linux64, Mac) coming out at the same time? ...personally I'm concerned about the 64-bit Linux client.
Answer about more info: It's one of the features in PlaneShift's development - until the update comes out there's little news about it ...if you're REALLY interested what all's coming in, read the SVN changelogs. You grow to like that "feature" as well ;) ...it's like the devs giving you a present and not tell you what it is, until you unpack it - the (positive) surprise and anxious anticipation are part of it all :D
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Just to give some insight about how things normally progress here's the normal steps we go though.
1) Main server is stopped.
2) All componet source code is updated ( cvs/svn )
3) A full rebuild is started of all components
4) Database updated from an upgrade schema ( thank god for that, since database changes are a total pain )
5) A test client is packaged including new artwork/levels/sounds/whatever
6) New data is loaded into database for new items, equipment, quests, etc.
7) We test on the new server to figure out any obvious issues
8 ) An 'official' client is packaged
9) Data is placed in the updater system
10) Server restarted and released to the playing public.
Right now we are at around stage 5/6
this was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in page 14 ;) but i am guesssing we are past or on step 7 seeing as 1 person has been seen in the server frequesntly and it now has stopped. i assume steps 8 and 9 can be done within a few hours. does this mean that it will be done rather soon(next 12 hours?)
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Testing the server also requires making the fixes for found bugs, and these don't have to be done with a person -on- the sever :) As acraig mentioned a while back, we were/are having an issue with portals that needs to be addressed, and there is some work with the camera that dfryer is trying to tackle. We're not done yet.
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When I say 'obvious' I mean very obvious. Stuff like "OMFG server crashes whenever somebody logs in", that sort of level of testing. After that we make it public and usually for a few days after that there is a few gigabytes of core dump files because players have found all sorts of new bugs. So the first week of public release is really our #7. We also have test case documents that we try to use to make sure stuff that used to work still works.
If we were on step 7 we'd be in game right now.. or well on our way..
don't stop reading.. reading is good.
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Well, I understand that dfryer has made some good progress on the portal/camera issue so I will check that out tonight ( still at work at the moment ). Aside from that we are taking a bit longer than normal to get things up and running. But I don't see it being too much longer ( a couple of days ).
On a different note I am a bit glad that people are upset about the server being down. It means that we must be doing something right if people want to play so bad. So please bear with us as we get everything back up and working again. Every patch things get a little better ( even if it does seem worse, it's better just in a different way :) ).
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Can't wait to see it. More places to explore. =D
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There!! A COUPLE DAYS!!! No more when when when when crying!
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It happens every time the server goes down, even a little 2 minute crash...but it isn't nearly as bad now as it was a few monthes ago.
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well then screw this. in a couple of days, ill be gone for a week. see all of you guys next saturday.
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In my 10+ years of Multiuser online games I have seen every angle of players responses during down time.
I normally use this time to enrich my characters background but I am finding contributing to the game itself is more gratifying.
About the 'people will leave because of the down time'. I say let them go. This place drops a gold nugget in thier lap and they drop it becuase its too heavy. Darwin baby, darwin.
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<Alliva> is the existing teraain ect gonna change ?
<ThomPhoenix> alliva: yes, Hydlaa will be replaced
<joseAway> everyone knows it's too silly
<Bakuun> Hydlaa is going to be replaced by a platform with rats.
<lammas> that sounds awesome :D
<ProteousG> lol
<ThomPhoenix> yes, Bakuun is right!
<lammas> i'll start up a rat farm...
<ThomPhoenix> note that the rats will be us...
<Bakuun> It's the new virtual reality show - who will be booted off first?!
<Easton> then youll need to implement some cheese or soemthing..
<ThomPhoenix> it's the greatest1
<joseAway> The next release won't have player housing, we didn't have room :D instead you will be kept in a cage
We tried to tell you (http://webdisk.planet.nl/hurks035/publiek/album/shot19.png)
You will be caged (http://webdisk.planet.nl/hurks035/publiek/album/cage.png)
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sweet i wonder if this will ad the new nightvision mod O--) :surrender: :sweatdrop:
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New nightvision mod?You must be mistaken some first person shooter.
Although eventually in some distant future PS will also have nightvision for certain races.
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why have nightvision before you have places where you will need nightvision?
???
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^^ Indeed.
The guy must have misread somewhere.
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Perhaps under the races section... at the bottom some say future versions will have nightvision... for all we know, the dev's are working on that right now......
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they aren't, i promise.. they have soooo many other things on their list ahead of nightvision.
Remember.. Pre-Alpha. ;)
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Nightvision already existed ... somehow... as a kind of lighting bug.
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Hey, anybody thought about.... perhaps they have redesigned the map of... Death Realm ? :@#\
I mean: everyone knowed the way out, so something new would be... :devil:
Perhaps we all will respawn there... and..whoah.. evil thoughts... ;D
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I see. ???
Is this the reason I couldn't log in and it kept saying Failed next to the server name?
Because I keep having that problem. :(
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Did you read the very first post of the thread? Doing such things may help :}
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<Alliva> is the existing teraain ect gonna change ?
<ThomPhoenix> alliva: yes, Hydlaa will be replaced
<joseAway> everyone knows it's too silly
<Bakuun> Hydlaa is going to be replaced by a platform with rats.
<lammas> that sounds awesome :D
<ProteousG> lol
<ThomPhoenix> yes, Bakuun is right!
<lammas> i'll start up a rat farm...
<ThomPhoenix> note that the rats will be us...
<Bakuun> It's the new virtual reality show - who will be booted off first?!
<Easton> then youll need to implement some cheese or soemthing..
<ThomPhoenix> it's the greatest1
<joseAway> The next release won't have player housing, we didn't have room :D instead you will be kept in a cage
We tried to tell you (http://webdisk.planet.nl/hurks035/publiek/album/shot19.png)
You will be caged (http://webdisk.planet.nl/hurks035/publiek/album/cage.png)
Someone's been playing with my /warn command... :P
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When was all this?
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Nice screenies lol
I want that GUI :)
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Someone's been playing with my /warn command...
You got me :lol:
Nice screenies lol
I want that GUI
Thanks!
And that GUI is just the standard one with transpararency maxed ;)
When was all this?
It will be the future of Planeshift, but don't tell anyone *shifty look* :whistling:
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<Alliva> is the existing teraain ect gonna change ?
<ThomPhoenix> alliva: yes, Hydlaa will be replaced
<joseAway> everyone knows it's too silly
<Bakuun> Hydlaa is going to be replaced by a platform with rats.
<lammas> that sounds awesome :D
<ProteousG> lol
<ThomPhoenix> yes, Bakuun is right!
<lammas> i'll start up a rat farm...
<ThomPhoenix> note that the rats will be us...
<Bakuun> It's the new virtual reality show - who will be booted off first?!
<Easton> then youll need to implement some cheese or soemthing..
<ThomPhoenix> it's the greatest1
<joseAway> The next release won't have player housing, we didn't have room :D instead you will be kept in a cage
We tried to tell you (http://webdisk.planet.nl/hurks035/publiek/album/shot19.png)
You will be caged (http://webdisk.planet.nl/hurks035/publiek/album/cage.png)
Someone's been playing with my /warn command... :P
Yeah!!! Rat Farms!!! FOOD FOR ENKI!!!! :P
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I thought about making a thread to address this and posting links to interesting threads people could look at to avoid all of these new posts and old questions from popping up. Then I thought .... to much work. So I will just say it here seeing as this is a hot topic, and it is kind of on and off topic.
Really this is getting ridiculous. There are new threads being created that already exsist. People asking questions that have already been asked a million times over. There is a search button. USE IT! The more time they have to spend catering to your questions and needs the less time they have to work on the new client release. Have some respect and just be patient.
Read a book, do some chores, use this time to come up with a back ground for your character in planeshift, or brainstorm ideas for roleplay when the client is finally up and running. Basically, just do something as the dev's and the mods are not paid to babysit. Your all (well most of you) are grown adults and should be able to occupy yourself without the aid of the devs and mods.
;D There I feel better, even if this doesn't or does help.
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Sorry Zorbels, but on a good note I finally got the posts to email me!
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Why in the world would you want email notifications of this junk?!...
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The irony about everyone bitching about multiple posts and threads, it that they TOO become multiple posts / threads, dealing with the same issue.
I love irony
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Here is what I wrote:
The devs still haven't answered the question of why they didn't leave PS online and leave our server running.
I know they needed it down for the test, and also for adding the updates.
BUT why not use a test server, or create one.
It's not like they CAN'T, there is nothing stopping them.
And if there is I'd like them to name it.
Frankly, it is bad policy to take off a game for extended periods of time.
I'm sure they lost a good 100 new users or something like that.
So please, devs, answer, why you haven't created some sort of test server?
Please don't dodge my question either.
Thanks for your time, looking forward to the update :) :woot: :thumbup: :D \\o//
Here is exactly what Anne wrote:
I'd like to think the part of that fellow[datruth]'s post [where he suggests 100+ new users got lost] is about, new fresh crisp from the dl users... I was thinking of posing this mention i'm making when the server was first closed to the public, but at the time figured this would be updated sooner than my laziness would ebb...that having been said, let's get back to what i was getting at: New users, who have just dled the client... not trying to moan n whine about it -- but [EDIT: I may be way off base with this question as seen in gondric's below post etc]--WHY? Why are there still links up on the main page to dl the client? If it's about laziness; my hat's off to you... mean i thought of this days ago & procrastinated this long, so i can respect a healthy degree of sloth... If any of you are wondering "To whom is the hat off??"--it's you. because none of you took down the links or posted a warning like "Downloading this outdated version of the client will waste your hd space, bandwidth, energy and time." and don't go thinking you're unworthy of praise for your inaction just cause you didn't have access--if you were less lazy you'd hack the site. Can't hack?--if you were less lazy you'd learn how... Getting the idea yet? good... so yea; if laziness: Congrats!--if just an oversight; we all miss something sometimes, just something to be aware of..
PS- [heh get it; PS on PS Forums hehe]--
Gondric-- I'm with you, i may be starting a new job monday, hope i get to play before i am reduced to 4 non sleeping hours at home...(oops, now you posted that last bit while i was typing- and now i am a lil confused--i'd understood it was going to be a new full client, not just an update)
Andrek-- I don't think it takes a dev to answer your queries: testing is going like the enegizer bunny; keeps going & going...Anticipated wait time... i'm gonna go ahead & pretend you mean the actual dl time, not when it will be relased-- the answer to that is that it will depend on your own connection, and how many other seeds/peers are on when you download..
Kalila-- If previous updates are anything to go by, it will also be mirrored but when first realeased way easier (for yourself & hosts) if you just use utorrent or a similar torrent client.
Datruth-- I'm sure if you're offering to fund, support & maintain another server we'd all encourage you. Otherwise i think you may want to work on how you show grattitude; here you get to play a game & be involved in its development process for free. The people working on it aren't paid for it [unless they work on it while goofing off at other jobs]. People have suggested splitting the server; but lets face it, if possible, that just means more work for them, and that means a longer wait for updates. And even if it didn't, the server has enough issues without splitting it. Anyway, all that aside (hope nobody other than you minds me being so 'holier than thou', but i think it's gotta be said) you act like a petulent child who is given a privelledge, like his own room, then when forced to spend a few nights sharing with siblings so the father can work on the plumbing, complains that the dad should convert his den to a new temporarty room for this complainer, like the kid's entitled or something.. Should be grateful the higher ups round here are more forgiving than me :ban: ; I'd probably toss the kid in the garage or the shed or the doghouse. The plumbing is for everyone's benefit. Guess it's lucky I don't have kids... or a house... or a viscious dog... :offtopic: but back to the point-- Boo-Hoo you're put out for a few days; apart from the ones WORKING on it, so is everyone else, but nobody else seemed to act as snide & entitled about it as you. If i was woking on it I'd probably be even more bothered by your post, and if i was in any position to i'd try for some sort of disciplinary action like suspending your account a few days after the update just for the disrespect... Clearly no one in a posion of authority is as unforgiving as me in this case...
BUT why not suspend your account, or ban it.
It's not like they CAN'T, there is nothing stopping them.
And if there is I'd like them to name it.
Frankly, it is bad policy to take flak off an ingrate for any periods of time.
I'm sure they lost a good 100 new users or something like that. so what's one more?
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...ok, at this point even reading my preview of this i can't help the overwhelming desire to reply to the post I'm writing just to say "You make good points, very erudite. But do you really need to flame the guy so much?" ... So i'll admit the sentiment was expressed harsher than it needed to be, but the general idea remains: I am unimpressed with your peculiar way of saying "I like this free game a lot!! I wish i could play it right now!! It bothers me that I cannot."
I'm sorry, but did that seem offensive to ANYONE but anne?
We have a thing called Logic, and logic explained to me that there were things called TEST servers.
My logic then asked, "why don't we have one".
I asked the question.... and here i am getting flamed.....
I'm guessing it might be a funding problem, and i'm also guessing it might be too much work.
I also have read EVERY single page of this thread, since it opened, so someone might conclude that i am VERY dedicated to this game.
YOU can't tell me that when the server went down, the question of why there isn't a test server didn't hit you.
It did.
Some of us, being here longer, understood why.
Others, who are newer to the game, didn't know, and didn't understand they were strapped on money.
I am VERY glad ANNE :thumbdown: is not a Dev nor will ever be, attitudes like that end up destroying communities and hurting the very player base that CREATED them.
I liked this one sentance of Anne's very much:
"but back to the point-- Boo-Hoo you're put out for a few days; apart from the ones WORKING on it, so is everyone else, but nobody else seemed to act as snide & entitled about it as you."
Did i complain, EVEN ONCE, about the servers being down, READ MY POST NOW, was there even one place where i said I CAN'T HANDLE THE SERVERS BEING DOWN, HELP!!
All i said was this:
"BUT why not use a test server, or create one.
It's not like they CAN'T, there is nothing stopping them.
And if there is I'd like them to name it."
Very simple question, and i have yet to get a reply from an actual dev, it was mostly the rest of the community that replied.
It's fine because I think everyone else who replied to my topic gave me the correct answer, money & time being the main reason.
Again, please allow others to voice their opinions, and not make a mountain out of an ant hill.
Everyone that read and understood my post gets a flower. :flowers: :D :thumbup: :lol: \\o//
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Laanx IS the freakin' test server.
We don't really care that the thing has some scheduled downtime now and then. It's really not a big deal. Just deal with it.
Ok, I've had enough of this. I'm locking this mess. Stop posting.