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Gameplay => Newbie Help (Start Here) => Topic started by: Orc99 on June 30, 2006, 06:20:10 pm
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In picking religion I know some of the choices are: Laanx, Black Flame, and Talad
Do certain races have certain suitable religions?
If so, what race goes with what religion?
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Instead of opening countless threads with questions, you could also read http://www.planeshift.it/setting_history.html and ask questions afterwards.
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(I hope nobody gets mad at this post for some obscure reason. I am just trying to help.)
In character creation
- Talad costs 16 points and gives you a +3 Intelligence boost.
- Laanx costs 16 points and gives you a +3 Will boost.
- Black Flame costs 6 points and doesn't give you a main stat boost in anything.
They all do more than this but that's all I have recorded in my spreadsheet and character creation is impossible for players right now because the server is down.
I don't know which religion is best for which race as far as roleplay goes but (correct me if I'm wrong) I think from conversations with NPC's the in-game god Talad is very hard to please and sacrifices never make him happy and the in-game god Laanx is more friendly. Have a good day.
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That is correct, that info was posted in the bugtracker. For the moment that's all religion does as far as I know, but I remember there is a quest where you need to be a Laanx follower for, I'm not sure though.
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Making your characters religion Laanx doesn't make you a Laanx follower. You become a Laanx follower by other means. **coughs trias coughs** Becoming a Laanx follower won't give you a stat boost but it does open up new possibilities.
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(I hope nobody gets mad at this post for some obscure reason. I am just trying to help.)
In character creation
- Talad costs 16 points and gives you a +3 Intelligence boost.
- Laanx costs 16 points and gives you a +3 Will boost.
- Black Flame costs 6 points and doesn't give you a main stat boost in anything.
They all do more than this but that's all I have recorded in my spreadsheet and character creation is impossible for players right now because the server is down.
I don't know which religion is best for which race as far as roleplay goes but (correct me if I'm wrong) I think from conversations with NPC's the in-game god Talad is very hard to please and sacrifices never make him happy and the in-game god Laanx is more friendly. Have a good day.
Laanx used to be friendly.... but now is more insane then anything...
oh and seeing how kran were created by talad, it makes more since to see them as the main followers of talad...
Laanx however made the lemur...or was it yilan.. i forget, anyways, one of them would mainly be laanx followers...
The rest of the races come from other worlds so really its whatever they were brought up as.
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I suppose people could just make up their own religion with a story and beliefs and roleplay it.
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I suppose people could just make up their own religion with a story and beliefs and roleplay it.
Well, I understand that religions in Yliakum go way beyond the choice of a god to adore (or the choice to doesn't choose any). I mean, of course there is some kind of identity and familiarity between followers of the same god, but I think there are also multiple ways in wich one can show his respect/love/fear for his god. We can have different interpretations of Laanx's Book of Names and it's laws, for example, and different sects/religious groups who follow the same god could disagree in a lot of points but the essencial ones, becoming even enemies (any similarity with our own religions' histories is completely intentional ;)). The same goes for Talad's or Black Flame's followers.
I find this subject really interesting and would like to see other people's views on this. For the last character I created, recently (Rorode Sowodel), I imagined a background in wich he comes from an isolated village organized by a specific sect of Laanx followers. This village also happens to be a lemur one, since I agree with what has been said - most Kran are Talad's followers and most Lemur's are Laanx's followers, but this is not a limitation, of course. This village would have all kind of specific rules based on their own interpretation of the Book of Names. I will probably develop this idea further in the rp forum, eventually.
:oops: I think I went a little far here... well, more thoughs on religions? :)
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We can have different interpretations of Laanx's Book of Names and it's laws, for example, and different sects/religious groups who follow the same god could disagree in a lot of points but the essencial ones, becoming even enemies (any similarity with our own religions' histories is completely intentional ;)). The same goes for Talad's or Black Flame's followers.
I find this part of your post particularly interesting because i am familiar with the existence of the book of names, but as far as i know, reading the book is not yet..er.. possible... so im interested in how you interpret the Book of Names specifically, and if you could fill me in on something i may have missed in the game.
Easton
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(...) as far as i know, reading the book is not yet..er.. possible... so im interested in how you interpret the Book of Names specifically, and if you could fill me in on something i may have missed in the game.
Hmmmmmm, actually I didn't know that, honestly. :-[ I just assumed that it was known to Laanx's priests to provide guidance. I was inspired by some parts of Yliakum's history (http://www.planeshift.it/setting_history.html):
These quotations follow a chronological order in the history section:
About the Book of Names (in the 2nd Epoch):
"In her [Laanx's] exile, she wrote the Book of Names for, even if she was confused and her mind distraught, she did not forget her desire to be worshipped by the people."
About Laanx rule over Kadaiko's Lemurs (in the 3rd Epoch):
"For a period, Laanx ruled Kadaikos harshly, giving to the Lemurs inflexible laws and a strict hierarchy."
About the Laanx's Xacha followers (in the 5th Epoch):
"Some of them [the Xacha], circumvented extinction and went back to their ancient traditions, while the others spontaneously created a clergy and faith based on the Book of Names."
So, this last quotation led me to the conclusion that the Book of Names, have been written by Laanx herself/himself, would be the corestone for her/his laws and hierarchies given to her/his followers. But I return your own doubt to you: maybe I'm missing something I don't know, and you could also fill me in on that :D Maybe an information wich I don't know/remember given by a NPC.
Besides that, if the Book of Names indeed can't be read (I don't mean implemented in game, wich is a different question) by Laanx's followers, they surely have religious codes, sacred texts and theological books by wich they organize their religion and discuss their faith. I think this is the opening to different religious aproaches to the same god, thus improving roleplaying the way I said before.
Shouldn't this discussion be moved to another forum? How can it be done?
Well, waiting for more opinions, as always.
PS: I just remembered something: the Book of Names is on Laanx Great Temple in Hydlaa, in the second floor. I believe that's a room for priests only, but still, the Book is accessible to mortals, them. Or... the Book is there, but unreadable or untouchable by mortals, it would be just a manifestation of Laanx's power. I still take the first option, as long as someone doesn't prove it inapropriate.
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I am very glad to find this discussion about religion here, because I consider it a very impotant and most interesting point of roleplaying. But in fact any religion or religious theme did not touch mr yet ingame ... :-(
There should be more about it than to choose a goodness and receive than stats therefor.
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I am very glad to find this discussion about religion here, because I consider it a very impotant and most interesting point of roleplaying. But in fact any religion or religious theme did not touch mr yet ingame ... :-(
There should be more about it than to choose a goodness and receive than stats therefor.
Really, it's up to you to bring the things you are interested in into the RP. Find a reason to talk about religion, from being a preacher to being a simple guy interested in theology.
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except for the fact that nobody in game actually knows :P
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Laanx
Lemurs (first created by Laanx)
Xacha (saved from extinction)
Dermorians (lead to a plentiful cave)
Talad
Kran (first created by Talad)
Ylians (many converted)
Enkidukai (many converted)
Anti Any God
Diaboli (particularly against Talad, since he tried to convert them.)
Klyros (particularly against Laanx since she/he tried to convert them and tortured them.)
Arrived But, No Strong Ties to Either(?)
Clan Hammerwielders (Though possibly weakly loyal to Laanx due to settling in Stone Labryniths and interacting with him/her?)
Clan Stonebreakers (Though possibly weakly loyal to Laanx due to settling in Stone Labryniths and interacting with him/her?)
Already in World So, No Strong Ties to Either(?)
Nolthrirs
(Xacha were already in the world but, later found by Laanx)
Others
Ynnwns (A mixture of Diaboli and elf blood so, no strong affiliation to either god.)
This is at least how I understand it… I am by no means a settings expert so, feel free to correct me if I am wrong. This isn’t meant to be hard and fast rules for what races worship which gods, just an extrapolation from the history as to which god they would most likely worship.
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Nice work. That'll be helpful, to me at least...
Really, I think you can believe whatever you want though. It's like saying all Irish people are Catholics, not exactly true ;)
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I hope there will not be any kind of "Inquisition" on PS setting...
Or my characters would get into real trouble...
And btw, some Xachas "circumvented extinction and went back to their ancient traditions"...
So I guess most Xachas would either follow Laanx or their "ancient traditions", whatever they are...
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(I hope nobody gets mad at this post for some obscure reason. I am just trying to help.)
In character creation
- Talad costs 16 points and gives you a +3 Intelligence boost.
- Laanx costs 16 points and gives you a +3 Will boost.
- Black Flame costs 6 points and doesn't give you a main stat boost in anything.
They all do more than this but that's all I have recorded in my spreadsheet and character creation is impossible for players right now because the server is down.
I don't know which religion is best for which race as far as roleplay goes but (correct me if I'm wrong) I think from conversations with NPC's the in-game god Talad is very hard to please and sacrifices never make him happy and the in-game god Laanx is more friendly. Have a good day.
Hmm, from my own findings it goes like this
- Talad costs 16 points and gives you +3 INT and +2 Crystal Way.
- Laanx costs 16 points and gives you +3 WIL, +1 Red Way and +1 Dark Way.
- Black Flame costs 6 points and gives you +3 Dark Way.
Also, I think you have Talad and Laanx descriptions reversed. Should be the other way around.
To Marqsaynt
Lemurs were created by Laanx and majority of those that reside in Yliakum follow Laanx. However, majority of Lemurs that reside in Kadaikos follow Black Flame.
A large number of Xacha follow Laanx but definitely not all of them. Aside from the quote posted by lordraleigh, NPCs give this description when asked about The Windowless Tower
The great windowless tower is largely an enigma. No one knows who built it, or why it exists. The priests of Laanx are quite upset that this tower is taller than their temple. I've heard of secret attempts to bring it down, but all have failed. The fact that it seems to be made of iron lends to the theory of a Xacha sect who don't follow Laanx...
And the description of The Windowless Tower itself is
This gargantuan tower rises above all other structures of Hydlaa, but its purpose remains unknown to the populace. The structure is obviously a masterwork of Xacha design and Stonewielder architecture. The rumor is that this structure houses the meetings of a Xacha scientific institution known as the Octarch's Engineering Academy who are rumored to report to the Vigesimi, Amidison Stronghand, but no one has offered proof of this, and it is generally dismissed as an urban myth.
That tells us that some Xacha definitely do not follow Laanx.
Agreed on Dermorians, Kran, Ylians, Dwarves and Enkidukai. Although some NPCs hint that some Enkidukai secretly follow Laanx.
Not sure about Nolthrir, Diaboli, Klyros, and Ynnwns as information is either contradictory or incomplete.
Also, it seems when you're picking religion at character creation, you're really picking it for your parents rather than for yourself (although, maybe not), since it's on a "Parents" screen.
I'm excited to know more about in-game religions as well. Ideally, I'd prefer it if any race could choose to follow any god or none at all, despite what majority of their race does.