PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Heezen on July 01, 2006, 07:10:29 pm
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Hey PS gamers,
I have installed the game, but I can't play the game riight now , coz it is down for updates and stuff...
From what I've heared, the game is still in alpha stage, and many things have to be worked out..
Here is a very clear question.
Is it worth to play PlaneShift?
Because, it is still in alpha stages, is it nice to play it? Is it playable in a decent way? Are there enough people to play with? Is there lag? Are there major bugs etc etc..
Please give a nice argumentated answer to my question, so I can decide whether I will try it every day to play the game, or remove it straight away now
Thanx a lot,
Heezen, from Netherlands
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well the answer to all the questions is yes.
worth though is a relative question. that and you're talking to the converted, so weight the answers accordingly.
i wouldn't come in expecting anything near the big commerical or many other finished mmporgs.
the easiest answer is to wait a few days for the updates to complete and give a run for a few days.
though i'm sure other people will be able to exapnd this aswer
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See this icon: :beta:
It's addable because the game is in Beta-stage. And is it worth playing? Why do you think thousands of people are playing it? Mostly there are about 100-150 players online at the time. Sometimes you crash, but you can nearly enter the game inmediately. More and more features are getting implemented, but you can play it already as a simple completed game...
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this is what i have found in two weeks of playing
1) the graphics are clear and the artwork is great. it is in 3-d with several modes of viewing including a freerange feature so that you can see all around you as in rl
2) there are usually 50-180 people online at any given time. considering the stage of developement this can be just a bit crowded in popular places IMO
3) i have some lag issues and crash issues which i believe are mostly due to my slow IC
4) bugs are probably the primary reason we "testers" are here. i have seen a quick response at solving them. and bug hunting seems to be a popular passtime
5) compared to other online games i have played, everquest (too expensive), diablo (a rehash of pc game full of kids who only want to duel), neverwinter nights (just a rehash of the pc game or nearly impossible to figure out what they expect you to do), i find it refreshing
6) as with any online game, the best or worst part are the players. in PS i have found wonderful people across the globe to interact with and with very few exceptions, have found them to be polite and helpful. although getting information out of most of them is like pulling teeth :)
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Hiya Heezen,
If you have already installed the game and are willing to go through either another download, or a bit of a wait to use the game updater, I would highly recommend that you hop in and see what PlaneShift is like for yourself :) I think the graphics are surprising in quality for such a project, and they are being improved and added quite often. Though at the moment players are limited to combat, mining, and the very beginning of crafting, it's still quite fun. We do get bugs, but anything major that prevents gameplay is fixed ASAP, and every two months (as just now) we get an update with literally hundreds of fixes among new features.
The biggest attraction however is the community, and roleplay. Roleplay is vital in PlaneShift, for this is what everything else circles around. Friends are very easy to make, and there are tons of guilds to make them in. If you're looking for a game that you can mostly solo in, you may find yourself bored pretty quickly - it's the interaction with others that gives everything more life.
I've been with PS for two and a half years now, and I hope to stay for many more :) It just has an addicting quality, even at this incomplete stage.
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We're mostly IC so you'll have to ask in the according manner(This game is aiming on Roleplaying) To speak OOC(ask about gameplay, someone's living or how cute his/her sister is) is brackets [] OR (even better) ask the person in tell /tell whereverIknowyoufrom (message) if you want to ask about quests, don't do it in forums and only do it if you really have to, that's about everything, oh, and don't make GM's mad, they can turn you into nasty things.
That's about all of it, good luck mate :)
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Hey PS gamers
... Now did you really expect anyone to say no? Especially looking at who you adressed your question to.
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Hey PS gamers,
I have installed the game, but I can't play the game riight now , coz it is down for updates and stuff...
From what I've heared, the game is still in alpha stage, and many things have to be worked out..
Here is a very clear question.
Is it worth to play PlaneShift?
Because, it is still in alpha stages, is it nice to play it? Is it playable in a decent way? Are there enough people to play with? Is there lag? Are there major bugs etc etc..
Please give a nice argumentated answer to my question, so I can decide whether I will try it every day to play the game, or remove it straight away now
Thanx a lot,
Heezen, from Netherlands
i know this is off topic but someone needs to let you know anyways :D the reason why the server is down is because theyre testing a new client so when the server is back up youll need to download a new client so you may as well go ahead and delete and uninstall planeshift and wait for the new client. hope fully itll be up by tomorrow :whistling:
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is it really worth playing? well it depends on how you view things I love it i have lots of cool friends and a wonderful guild but starting out it was hard. so as many have said wait for the new client to come out and see.
Hey PS gamers
... Now did you really expect anyone to say no? Especially looking at who you adressed your question to.
I would say no but that's just me your millage may vary
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Hey PS gamers,
I have installed the game, but I can't play the game riight now , coz it is down for updates and stuff...
From what I've heared, the game is still in alpha stage, and many things have to be worked out..
Here is a very clear question.
Is it worth to play PlaneShift?
Because, it is still in alpha stages, is it nice to play it? Is it playable in a decent way? Are there enough people to play with? Is there lag? Are there major bugs etc etc..
Please give a nice argumentated answer to my question, so I can decide whether I will try it every day to play the game, or remove it straight away now
Thanx a lot,
Heezen, from Netherlands
Well, i will say, coming to the PLANESHIFT FORUM to ask if its a good game to play will get you some biased answers ;) . But seriously, its a very good game to play; its very worth it. Though it may be pre alpha, its very good even now, and if you just think abotu whats instore, it kinda hooks you in. Its already pretty expansive in my opinion, not to mention fun and addictive. The community is very strong and welcoming. the worst thing we have are powerlevelers...and compare that to Runescape's Ebay weapon salesmen and Planeshift looks angelic. Its really very fun and interesting.
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although getting information out of most of them is like pulling teeth :)
Then you're probably asking for the wrong information or you are asking devs about new developments. A good reason to play PS is the people who are always there to help you at any time...
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Not as many people as you would like to think are that helpful to new players in all honesty.For example a new player joins and interrupts a role play by asking where does he sell rat hides repeatedly.It is not uncommon to see him/her ridiculed/ignored for unknowingly asking such a thing.Whilst roleplay is the main objective of Planeshift it is so different to all other mmo's "thankfully in that respect" new players have to hit the ground running which i feel is wrong.A learning curve doesn't come from reading the players guide as many may not read which you can't hold against them.
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well being new doesn't make you rude but interrupting a conversation is rude. you shouldn't play without reading the history of yliakum or the guides, you can but you shouldn't. it's just common sense... and as Zorbels says, "it's not so common" but still, we should encourage it. i don't think there's a mean crowd out there but a very patient one but if you join the game you should make an effort too (heck, you can read the guides and rules as you download the game).
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In my experience this game is well worth it. The community is wonderful, you won't find a community like this anywhere. The game play is still in development as you know, but it can be very challenging. Especially the quests, in some ways good and others bad. My suggestion is read the players guide. Tour the main website and some of the guilds websites. Those sites will give you a good idea of what to expect. Also ask yourself if you like to roleplay, because this game isn't about killing as many monsters as you can or becoming a super strong character, it is about creating a character and enjoying the world, and the possibilities it holds. you might want to also check out the community story section in the forums. There are some wonderful writers to be found and stories that might give you an idea of where to start with your character. Good luck to you and if you see me in game, by all means come and chat.
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Yes, tis a very fine game indeed. You may find that your no longer able to play after a while, but even after four months, you won't be able to keep youself away from the game (like me :P ).
Because planeshift has a rather small comunity compared to other MMORPG's, we tend to be a lot more friendlier towards each other, and help everyone else out. I'd give it a try and meet some of the people, or if you can't wait to meet some of the people, try going onto the IRC channel, and having a chat (Be forwarned though, the IRC channel is not moderated, and the conversations can become somewhat... abstract to say the least. ;D ).
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I really like the game, especially the fact that it is TOTALLY free. I like the graphics although my computer lags a bit (a go slow, then go fast, go s.l.o.w then go fast, I go s-l-o-w, I go fast ...) so it gets a bit annoying, but that's because of my 7-year old computer. The previous game I was player, the DEVs/GMs and the Players were on TOTALLY different worlds, but here, the DEVs/GMs are really on the same world as the players and are active forum members (expecially Karyuu with her 5396 at the moment I am writing this post ... but there is also DaveG and others)
I like also the fact that it evolves just about on a day-to-day bases. What I mean by that is not the fact that you have an update everyday, what I mean is that everyday, some new ideas come up and are developped. Also, the PlaneShift staff have a set of goals, which keeps them focused on where PlaneShift is going (unlike the game I was playing which is atm going through a "phase" where the whole gameplay is changing ...).
The one thing I don't like with PlaneShift is that they insist a lot on the fact that PlaneShift should be RolePlayed, but this is a problem more with me then anything else. For me, PlaneShift is a game where I play on it, it isn't my second life.
I don't mind the fact that the game crashes although it gets annyoing when it crashes constantly, but this happens rarely (only when I stay in certain places for a long time). I also sometime find a little bit annoying how the NPCs can't understand you ...
And I wish sometimes that it was a bit more developed, but hey! it is in pre-alpha stage and alpha is before beta, so it is in a pre-pre-beta and beta is before the final release, so it is a pre-pre-pre-version ... hope you followed what I said :P
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I have not played it but I can still say YES it is worth playing and I mean its better than the other (bad) games like battle-on and dofus! and you have to keep in mind that the is a $0 profit organization and all of the staff are working for free... and the graphics are still really good ( better than runescape ) So i think you wil have a great time playing it!
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(I'm going to play partial devil's advocate here. But personally I love PlaneShift, and have no complaints about it except that I live in the wrong timezone to interact with more people.)
There are some things that could immediately be a turnoff.
1. The game isn't even at version 1.xxx yet. It's in alpha, pre-alpha? It means that players are testers, and there will be bugs to deal with constantly. One could find the error message that pops up after quitting the game overly annoying.
2. The dedication to RP. Some people don't know what RP is, and get bashed right away for asking for help. Roleplaying can be a hard task if you're not a writer, or self confident enough to create full character with a family history and personality.
3. Unfinished models. You can't fully customize your character, because many races either don't have models, or else only have one gender's.
4. Constant updates that interrupt gameplay. Example: right now. Someone in another thread stated that PS was losing new players because of this update and failure to inform everyone on the downloads page.
5. Too many guilds with the same purpose.
(Meh. I'm really pushing what I don't like about PS. Most of the stuff I listed is easily avoidable/curable. Of course it's worth the download and wait to play.)
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Constant updates? I wish! We only have a release every two months.
That someone in another thread said something akin to "I bet you lost a good 100 new players because of this", to which everyone's reply was "The good players we haven't lost."
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yes pre-alpha is kind of annoying but the thing is... once it comes to the real version you will have a great char{unless they do another player whipe which i dont think really happened because i forgot about the game before the whipe then started back after it and was still the same[aside from my awesome broad swords being deleted because they were too powerful lol!]}
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There will be many wipes before we hit 1.0, which I guess you can consider as "real" as real gets.
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I still disagree that we are in PRE - alpha. I feel that is pushing it alittle. I can understand if someone says alpha, or even late alpha. Hell, i even remember Karyuu saying after thsi update we might as well almost be in very early beta. Correct me if i am wrong
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I think it's too early for beta right now - that may come with Steel Blue - but "pre-alpha" doesn't feel right anymore after everything that's been done. Just "alpha" should suffice for now.
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yea i figured there would be many more whipes... well i was going to edit what i said but i hate editing after someone else posted under it because many dont read it... but anywho, after i had posted i realized i was on page two. So, i read page one and found something funny...
4) bugs are probably the primary reason we "testers" are here. i have seen a quick response at solving them. and bug hunting seems to be a popular passtime
that is funny, especially since that is the basic purpose of the Explorers Guild! and also on the other numbers listed i agree with them...
also, the fact of trying to make it an RP only game... if you think or it, any video game is RPing... because Role Play... means you play a role of someone other than yourself... well... unless a game is you in your life exactly as it is then it is an RP... anywho, i know what you all mean by RP... it means stuff like in character conversations in the time of which it is set... Medieval... so you dont walk up to someone and say "hey im new to this game, where do i go... is there a newb place or something im lost..." instead "Hello, im new to this city. Could you help me in finding a place to rest and are there any markets around here?" or something like that... and i think it is fun to do that...
2. The dedication to RP. Some people don't know what RP is, and get bashed right away for asking for help. Roleplaying can be a hard task if you're not a writer, or self confident enough to create full character with a family history and personality.
let me just say... it doesnt take writing skills or self confidence... it takes creativeness<or however you would say that> and possibly resourcefulness<however you say taht also>... i know you said you were pushing it a little under the list... yea... pushing it is a good way to say that lol!
i think RPing is a good addition to any game... it makes you feel more as if you were there for yourself... and as for the other stuff/flaws... they will be gone all in due time...
and the community is very helpful as others have stated...
EDIT: yea pre-alpha sounds too early on in developement...
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We need to throw a graduation party then! Afterall, our little PS is become all grown up. Congrats to PS making it to alpha! :love:
Seems just like yesterday, I was playing a game where all there was to do was collect shinies and talk it up in the plaza. My, how it has grown.
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I love the game cause I started in MB but forgot my character's name in it when we converted to CB (I played for a few weeks and needed to quit for school). Now I play as RL allows.
You can hop in and find random players to help you... Shameless plug... If you chose a Enkidukai seek out the Feline's Lair. We are a fun lot *Thinks about how this may become a thread to promote other guilds and how cool it could be to see the dedication for the game*
It is worth the try if you like a graphical chat room!
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I was wondering, how much time did it take to get from 0.3 to 0.3.015? and how much time did it take to go from the very start to what it is now?
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I can answer the second question, memory isn't so good about the first though.
Technically, PS has its roots from the year 1992. Don't take this for much though, but I think .3 started maybe about a year and a few months ago.
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wow, so it's an old game going VERY slowly!!! But I guess that "jadis" they had only very few people helping. Now I guess they have more people developing the game.
I also hope that within the next 2 years, the final version will come out, because it is getting well and truly in shape at this moment.
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Well for one, PS won't ever be "final". It'll always be in ongoing construction.
Also, it started out as a 2d mud, and was considered complete. I didn't go comercial do to some technical reason I don't recall why. Anyways, it sat for a bit and I think around 2001 Talad and Company decided to bring new life to the project as a 3d mmo. And thus the game as you know it started. This is all detailed on the history page on the main site. Sorry, I don't recall the link and I couldn't find it browsing the main site either. Then again, I couldn't ever find my way around that beast of a site to begin with. Hope this helps.
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lol, so it isn't actually THAT old ... "only" 5 years ... I guess that once the everything is in place (all the NPCs, towns, etc.) it will be the final release.
and I guess that the project is taking some speed with more and more people helping ... but we shouldn't talk about that anymore, it is geting a bit :offtopic:
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Well you did ask when it started, in which case it was 1992. It just was 2d then and not 3d. And as the natural process threads go through, and evolve over time, I wouldn't say that we have gotten offtopic, just that the topic has shifted a bit.
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a bit much lol, we were at "should I play at this game" to "this game started in 1992, but first really took off in 2001, over 10 years after" ... so yeh, I think it is :offtopic: ...