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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Wired_Crawler on July 30, 2006, 11:10:35 am
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The name of arena's Taskmaster was always distracting me. It always brings back vague memories about war movies. Why? Because "Gregori" is a common name used in real world. It can be first or last name. As a first name it is russian equivalent of "Gregory", look there: http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Gregory.
It can be also used as a surname: http://www.italyworldclub.com/genealogy/surnames/g.htm.
"Stevald" together with "Gregori" also sounds very... normal, It is not hard to imagine real person named "Gregori Stevald".
So, I would like that name to be changed. Anyone agrees or disagrees ?
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A common firstname from the real life is allowed (yes, Gregory is common in russia and surrounding countries, Gregor is known in german speaking countries too). A just common sounding complete name is possible as well. Even your real life name is possible (e.g. "Rolf Blacksmith" is probably just "Rolf Schmidt" from Germany).
Just the name of a prominent person, or trademarked character, is not allowed - so if you know a "Gregori/y Stevald" who is e.g. mayor of a larger town, report this case. ;)
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OK, I see. I don't know anybody of this name.
Maybe I asked wrong question. Let's put away the book of law ;).
Does this name suit world settings in your opinion ? For example, what would you say about "John Stevald" or "Thomas Stevald" ? Would they be good for Planeshift too? There are no known persons named like that. For me they sound in similar way like "Gregori Stevald" (no, I'm not Russian).
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in my country, when someone says someone is calling st. gregorio"gregory" means he puking because hes alcohol intoxicated.
the relation is because of the last years of hes life he lived terrible pains.
quote:
"The last years of Gregory's life were filled with every kind of suffering. His mind, naturally serious, was filled with despondent forebodings, and his continued bodily pains were increased and intensified. His "sole consolation was the hope that death would come quickly" (Epp., XIII, xxvi)."
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Does this name suit world settings in your opinion ? For example, what would you say about "John Stevald" or "Thomas Stevald" ? Would they be good for Planeshift too? There are no known persons named like that. For me they sound in similar way like "Gregori Stevald" (no, I'm not Russian).
Huh? John and Thomas are perfectly suitable names...as is Gregori. That's like saying you can't call a door a door because that is what it is in the "real world" and reminds you of your door at home that at some point you might have ran into and have negative feelings toward. Seriously...what a ridiculous thing to complain about.
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Now you mention it, I didnt really liked the fact I couldnt use "Raven" as a first name, just becouse it isnt common I guessed. But I dont mind if I wont be able to use it. Too bad for something as "gregori" actually
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To be honest, being named after someone in real life shouldn't be against the rules. I mean, as long as they don't roleplay like Hitler and run around Hydlaa saying he'll rid the world of Jews, it shouldn't matter at all since no one IN CHARACTER should know who that person is.
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The naming policy dissallows blatant references. No, you obviosuly can't name your character Adolf Hitler. Yes, you could name him Adolf something else, if you really wanted to. Normal names are perfectly allowed, so long as they're not a direct reference to a particularly famous person or thing. If there was some guy with the name, just some local mayor, no one cares. If he's some movie star, then that'd be a no.
The big naming policy voilations are the idiots naming their characters "lunchbox" or "Vegeta". No stupid crap, and no names from other things. However, if you want to be "Bob Smith", be my guest. Though, chances are "Bob" is already taken.
Please also rememeber: Everything is from something; everything has been done before. An old policy was to Google the names to see if they were used... everything is at least similar to something, in some country, using some language. One of the dumber examples was some name that happened to be a brand of concrete in some obscure language. A GM called that dissallowed... I called it the most meaningless thing to argue about in the world. Most likely this guy had no clue this word was anything, it might've even come out of a generator. As far as I'm concerned, even if they did, obscure references are fine.
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Actually, the name Bob is reserved (or something) so no one can use it. All the seriously normal names apperantly aren't allowed.
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If it said it was reserved, that probably means some MBer had it and it's still reserved for an import. If some GM has banned any normal name and I can't find any suitable reference, I'll unban it. There's nothing wrong with the name "Bob". It's just not very inventive.
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Well you don't find a common person in real life named "Miakirimn" or anything like that. =x
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Thanks for explanations :). Probably my confusion is the result of the fact, that I haven't met other characters/npcs with such "ordinary" (and valid) names. It seems that I need to adjust my settings a bit ;).
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For a while, people were over obsessing over names. All we really want is to make sure all of the names fit into the world.
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For a while, people were over obsessing over names. All we really want is to make sure all of the names fit into the world.
The fights were over where to draw the line, and how vigorously to enforce naming policies.
I have always felt that anything reasonably obscure should be fair game.
If less than one player in fifty would recognize a name, it is certainly not famous.
It is tough enough to come up with a meaningful or creative PS name that has not already been used.
I am relieved we no longer have to be unique in the entire real world, (on Google) as well.
My thanks to the voices of reason.
~Verrliit~
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If less than one player in fifty would recognize a name, it is certainly not famous.
A hard thing to gauge, really. Your "stream of consciousness" style of writing is very disconcerting.
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I am relieved we no longer have to be unique in the entire real world, (on Google) as well.
My thanks to the voices of reason.
I don't ever recall us having a rule about disallowing real life names. What are you referring to?
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I do. Anything that was a mundane "Bob" or "Bill" or "Jane" used to be disallowed/changed by GMs. It was a while ago though.
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That's so bad :x
At least it stopped being enforced months and months ago.
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That's so bad :x
At least it stopped being enforced months and months ago.
I believe it was before the GM shake up that happened awhile ago.
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The whole point of the naming policy is to prevent the players, when talking to a person to feel like they are talking to an object, and keep a name being a name. When you say "hello" to a player named "soup" or "killermachine" or "mekillsyou", I bet the feeling of having a conversation with a "person" isn't that present. And that's why we have the naming policy.