PlaneShift
Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Bitot on August 02, 2006, 02:03:11 pm
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Purpose: To understand the way of Crafting and other related craft. To create the utimate weapon of our own crafting. And to help fellow miners of all race and alignment. RP when we are mining or waiting for metal to melt.
We are currently 43 Member strong. Know of 3 iron, 3 coal, 2 zinc, 2 silver, 1 tin, 1 diamond, 1 ruby, 1 emerald mines so far. And are proud member of the Alliance of Life. (Seeking to make the PlaneShift world more lively and fun)
Alignment: Netural to all, except to fellow miners and crafters :).
Rank: Novice - These are new member to the guild, they have potential in their craft but yet to realise their full potential.
Miner - They have now understood the working of mining (know where to mine for all the available raw material).
Smelter - This veteran of our guild have the vast understanding of smelting and mining.
Smith - The Smith are those that are able to create basic weapon and armor of their choosing.
Crafter - They excel in the art of Crafting, Repair, Smelting and Mining. A true Crafter in every sense.
Elite Crafter - They help overseer other in our guild with their erudite knowledge of the world and their craft. They also entrusted with the task of promoting and
discovering potential Crafter.
Master Crafter - They are the epitome of Crafting. Their superior skill in crafting are very well valued within the guild and in fact to the whole world.
Grand Crafter - They are those that brought much profit to the guild via the sales of goods crafted within the guild. They also acted as the representative of
the guild, getting larger job offer from other guild and player, and mainly spreading goodwill amongst all fellow miner and crafter.
Crafter Lord - The great leader of this glorious guild. His knowlegde in Crafting was unsurpass by any.
Rule: - It all right to make large order with other, you can call upon the help of other guild members as long as you pay them reasonably.
- Assist all other fellow miner and crafter you meet in anyway we can. They might help us fill order in the future.
- Help each other within the guild, like with promotion quest and such.
- Share information about our work with other member.
Payment : All member have the right to sell their craft at whatever price they deem fit to any player(except of blacklisted one). Member can keep the whole sum of
the payment to themselves though they are encourage to donate some to the guild fund to the Grand Crafter, Merchant Lord and Master Crafter.
Guild Fund : The fund is used to help fellow member train and aquire material and item and host Guild Events. Most importantly the fund is not to be misuse (Not even by the high ranking ones).
Guild Event/ Role Play:
-[Event] Our Guild will choose a employee of the month every month, their hardwork will be repay with 10k and 2 guild points and a secret item sponsered by the Grand Crafter or Merchant Lord.
-[RP] For some great player that had help the Crafter Guild(Not to the leader but the guild) a great deal will be presented with a dagger crafted by either Crafter Lord Ganite or Grand Crafter Bitot, that was to be considered as the highest honor to the guild. When presented with the dagger, all Crafter must assist in anyway possible as a acknowledgement to the great help rendered to our guild. (Etc. Giving discount on thing we sell them, helping gather some resource)
Note: Receiver of the Crafter Highest Honor are not to sell the dagger away, for it will cause great confusion and chaos within the guild. If you do wish to have them sell them back to either of the Crafter Leader.
History : Bitot the former Diamond Merchant met up with his good friend Ganite while wandering in the wild searching for new mine to be discovered, when the cloudy sky clear above their head and a great ball of light came down and hovered before them. The ball of light was send by Talad to deliver a divine message from him, to request of the two promising crafter to create the Utimate Weapon for him, a powerful relic that will be marveled at for ages to come, as a tribute to the mighty Talad. But the task was too huge for any mere mortal to accomplish alone, so the pair went in search of other worthly Crafter to aid them in the divine quest entrusted to them. Hence the Crafter was form...and continued to prosper and still strive to accomplish the impossible task of creating the Utimate Weapon.
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Crafter is the name? Mmm...
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i think the idea is great but i agree that the name could use some more thinking. if you're open to suggestions i'll be happy to post some.
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We named it Crafter because that what we do, we don't need to inspire fear or awe to other player :).
I think the name work just fine, many people ask us about crafting when they did not even know about our guild.(The name say it all)
But i'm up for suggestion if you want to.
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Well, it's a little gramatically odd, I think :) "Crafters" would at least sound better, since the exchange--
"What guild are you in?"
"I'm in the Crafter!"
--sounds rather weird.
Excellent start, regardless!
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We usually say "I'm a Crafter"
But that a very good point, i will ask the guild leader for his idea on the slight alteration of name :)
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I understand :)
In our guild we also consider ourselves "an Explorer", but we're still a guild of Explorers so the plural form is used in the guild name. Makes for a bit less awkwardness.
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Yeah I would change the name as well.. Crafters looks kinda funny. Maybe the Tinkerers ? I dont know. Other than your name.. let me see.. Hmm also I would have someone proof read your initial post. Im not making fun or anything but it has quite a few problems.
Also, I wouldnt put on here how much money you have to train members. People will join your guild just so you can help them with money :P.. there are enough evil people that will join just to get money. I know it sounds crazy but it happens.
Last thing, if you dont already have it planned.. I would make a more indepth story. That would really help.
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No offense, We considered and we are sticking with the "Crafters". Its is the name agreed by our member and it really work for us \\o//. The name "Crafters" simply tell all other player what we are about and not having to ask our member, what we are all about(Save us alot of time explaining, and quite many player interested in crafting ask about us when they see our name). So again No offense :)
"Tinkerer" is just any other way to call a Crafter, so we can't use it if you guys said that the Crafters is not a good name. But thank for the suggestion :)
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If your happy with it keep it.. The name is the least important part anyway :).. Good luck
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'Crafter' as a name is fine. I like having Crafter above my head rather than The Crafters or some silliness. We are a practical guild, most of us are very serious minded, and this is straight and to the point...
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Well I quite like the concept. It's a nice change from goodie-samaritan-guilds (no offense meant ;)
) and evil-doers.
The thing is, I don't seem to find many members in-game, not to mention leaders. Are you still active? Because I'm (Wildan that is) considering joining...
See you at the smithy, hopefully :thumbup:
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If your happy with it keep it.. The name is the least important part anyway :).. Good luck
I disagree Valb. The name flavors the guild. I look at "Crafter" and think "n00b". I would look at something along the lines of what you said, Tinkerers, and think, "At least they're trying."
This guild won't last. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is. Your purpose is... lacking, to say the least. I mean, you're the kind of guild people use for a time. You basically have no RP elements. You are bland.
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Unfortunately, Phinehas. I look at your name and think a word I cannot repeat here. 'The Crafter' (and IT IS 'THE CRAFTER') is very much alive. The reason that you are dead wrong on this Phinehas is because Bitot and Ganite are not sarcastic, caustic trolls and actually care about the guildmembers very much. We added a couple of more members in the last couple of days. Despite all of us having IRL duties that sometimes keep us away from Hydlaa, we are very active... as you would have seen last night at our presentment ceremony at the gold field to annoint the new alliance Illustro, that includes the Merchants of Light. We actually spend a lot of time working with the new members, and don't just invite people to boost the numbers on the guild. Lomerandin: We would be happy to have you, just contact Bitot, Ganite or Lesilie when you are on line. Phinehas, I have enjoyed your timely and concise commentary in a number of threads, but this time you are simply wrong ... you can call us names, but really what you think is the least of our concerns. Peace.
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Actually, what I said was perfectly true. You may not like it, that's fine. I still stick to my opinion. Without being elitist or an "oldbie" you'll have to forgive me if I consider my opinion to carry more weight than the opinion of someone who's only been around for a month or so.
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I do forgive you Phinehas. In all other things I defer to your wisdom, old one...
[later] Alright, Phinehas... you are right and I am wrong. Let it be said. My original post where I popped on you -- I am usually good about that but went over my own line here -- was based more on respect for Bitot than on anything you said. I really like Bitot and Ganite, and have seen them put a lot of effort into teaching people.
But the Crafter is foundering, members cannot be promoted and the guildmasters login only occasionally, members are leaving as Pisik did yesterday because they feel abandoned. Eldoth is still a member, but more just to be able to see if there is anything going on.
I really think that Phinehas' other posts in this forum should be taken to heart by people wanting to start guilds, and please guildmasters if you are going to be away for long periods of time consider this when assigning rights to the levels in the guild, the guild should function autonomously as possible when the guildmasters are away. That being said, the best thing for a guildmaster is to sign-on at least once a day.
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is there a guild website? If not, I propose to host one on my computer. I think it can hold up to most loads. I host a blog now (http://linuxblogger.dyndns.org/weblog/). Please let me know. Also if anyone is interested in developing or good with content let me know too. larrydag@sbcglobal.net
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I saw that edit coming, Pisik was a great asset to your guild.
My guild is a member of that alliance and I have not seen another guild leader online since we joined.
I have no idea what is happening but the alliance is weakening.
I hope you make it but Phinehas may be correct.
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Thank you, Idoru. Yes, Pisik was a great asset. And he was on pins and needles about leaving. He really soul-searched before he left and was quite upset about the whole thing. I was away for a short time and everything just kinda went poof. Have not seen Melorek, or the Borimels for that matter, for a while and of Illustro... nothing. There are a number of people I mention below... sorry if I forgot anyone... who are regular players with good attitudes. Consider them, Idoru, active players deserve active guilds.
Thank you, Larrydag. But I really think the decision to create a webpage and host it belongs to Ganite and Bitot, or Lesilie secondarily. If you feel like you should remain a part of the Crafter, then get something online but if they do come back, they may decide not to use it.
I have some good friends still in the Crafter: Phinlos, Winder, Dothar. A couple of weeks into their initial (guildmasters) absence, I did consider breaking off and forming the "Crafter Local #47" or some such. Since I usually have the time to be online, most days anyway. I did not do it because I was nagged by this feeling of ... betrayal ... and told Winder I would speak with Bitot when he was on before doing anything.
Then I noticed Bitot had been on a couple of times briefly, and when I logged back in Ganite and Bitot and Melorek and I did some event at the gold field to celebrate Illustro and then ... nothing. This was shortly before I saw Phinehas' posting and it just kinda... anyway I appreciate anyone who has posted here and that includes Phinehas.
I will probably leave Eldoth as a member of the Crafter. I last logged him off in a sleeping room in the Kada-El after drinking with friends for a while. He pretty much just walks around between there and Harnquists, holding a beer and wondering what happened... he does not work the forge, or the mine. Pretty much just drinks.
I still think there is nothing wrong with that name, other groups (not in PS) have used such a tense in their title name so it is not unheard of... However, I did not join because of the name -- but in spite of it -- and because of Daminson, and then stayed because of Bitot, Ganite, Winder, Phinlos, Pisik, Halaali and others whom I cannot recall at the moment.
You seem to almost be a model guildmaster Idoru, I say that because an alt knows a number of good people in the Elemental light, and they are bright and active and pleasant to deal with IG and all have good things to say about you, so I congratulate you on the hopefully continuing success of the Elemental Light.
I could have left this thread alone and not posted, however that would not have been sincere, nor fair to Phinehas. So once again I thank everyone, despite any guild issues. Most anybody I have met and remembered in Planeshift has made a mark on me somehow, and hopefully we may see Ganite and Bitot again. Though I might be the only one left in the guild at that point.
Anyway, this is all a whole lot more interesting than nothing at all, even if things were not perfect...
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Thank you Eldoth, that is such a kind thing to say, alot of my members value Pisik very highly, we have tried to get him to join the Elemental Light.
the offer to join is open to all your members who have become disolutioned with the guild you are in.
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hi this is pisik formally of the crafters. i am sorry to leave a gguild that sounded so promising when bitot (im pretty sure it was bitot first recruited me. i felt as though my talents would go to waste i even recruited about 4-5 people while there to try to build the guild back up a bit. I am sad to say i failed i am good friends with ioru and a lot of his guild and put countless hours training them so that there is a decent percent of happy members. i will never join another guild but i am happy to help all that asks me. i do not and will not ever have a bad thought towards the crafters as i was a noob when i joined, and i thought all my problems could be solved by the support of a guild i am now a little wiser in the ways of the world and feel guilds are a waste of 20000 trias to start one. many have asked me to join and others even ask if they put up the money will i form a guild my answer is an unfortunate no. i just like to help so if there is any one out there that feel the same way please try to remember do your research on any guild you consider joining. as i have said before i am always helping people why cant other poeple help out others just because they feel it is the right thing to do. only helping because it gets guild points is not really the way i see help that is just trying to better yourself by helping a lesser player. all that said all i ask in return for my help is that the people i help make me a promise to one day help another the same as i helped them. i feel that is a fair price to pay for a larger happier community. i have many friends from the game and it gives me a thrill to be able to help as my friends idoru, chazarus, karst, maerghaine (i hope i spelt it right,m'lady) and brother frak and brother althos, still continue to help me. [ooc] this is the first interactive game i ever played and i feel i am better off now that i found such a great gaming community thank you all the developers who put all their time and effort making the world a beeter place for me and many other people out there im sure sorry i rambled a bit there but this is my first post or reply ever and this is also the first forum i ever visited so i beg any forgivness for such a long post.
thank you for the opportunity to play and live in the planeshift world
i would also like to thank eldoth and idoru for their kind words. well i think thats all i want to say i am sorry if my reply offeneds anyone as that is never intention bye for now see you all around town
( one more thing is there a spell check any where for me to sheck my posts for errors)
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A little breathless perhaps, but a sincere and kind post. I do not think anyone would have anything to be offended about there, Pisik. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us, and I hope you always have good luck in your travels.
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I'm new to the guild and wishing they would purge the earlier thread. But besides that, we are a crafting guild and historically crafters trained apprentices. Would it be against the rules of the game for us to put up crafting guildelines on this forum? like what skill in what you need to smelt steel? or how you gain the experience neccesary etc.
Mikkal
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If this guild has started up again and you'd like to create a new thread for it, please do so (http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4929/usedusedusedvi7.gif) I will remove the old. However, I would avoid sharing details on the crafting process within these boards. This is information that is best shared more directly - through personal exchanges, in-game, etc. Besides, you guys want to keep some "trade secrets" to yourself, right? Motivate interested traders to join ;]
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As a group who do what the crafters were set up to do we seem to be increasing in active members however as a guild we are in a bit of trouble. I will speak to the other active members and see if we can sort something out. As it stands we have no leaders and no one has access to guild settings or privelidges. Well we have leaders but they don't seem to have been in game since August 06. If anyone can reach them please tell them we could do with a hand.
Does anyone know what we can do with the guild if the original leaders cannot be found? Should it be taken to the GM's?
Other than this problem we are alive and kicking and actively recruiting.
Elarele.
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I would recommend joining the Imperial Trades (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=26004.0) but that would be shameless advertising so I won't.
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Join another guild with the same purpose .. like Parallo has so shamelessly advertized :P
Or recreate your guild. Get your members together, all leave the old guild and start a new one with new leadership and a new name of course.
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We have now formed a new guild with most of the active members. We are still rounding up stragglers however so any members reading this please contact Plu or Sizo in game to get invited to the new guild. When the aims are more polished we will post the new guild up for all to see.
Elarele.