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Gameplay => Wish list => Topic started by: Sohai on August 13, 2006, 12:03:46 am
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Hi :)
While traveling thru the world of planeshift I couldnt help thinking how much fun
(perhaps only for me) it would be to have a real yellow brick road.
Nothing fancy as skills or commands or neat glyphs that activate social spells.
But a nice coloured road where people can refer to. Yes I realise there are already roads with a slight colour change (unless its my screen :P ).
It would also make finding a certain place more easy and enhance the feeling of a magical wonderous land. Because; -yes maybe i am the only one who has fond memories of The Wizard- anything could happen on that road, u never knew what might be next.
And I think it would be really nice being able to say:
´Oh yea, thats easy...just follow the yellow brick road...,
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/me gets a few of his drawven friends together and starts to sing:
http://www.noplacelikeoz.com/OZ-lollipop.wav
As for the idea, PS likes to be different, unique. As such, something such as a yellow brick road probably won't ever be put in the game. This isn't to say brick roads won't be there going from place to place, but not in the same sense that would relate as closely to the Wizard of Oz as having a big yellow brick road in game would.
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Welcome to the forums!
As neko, up'ere, said we tend to go against the stream. If you want to post something original i'd be glad to hear your ideas.
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haha thank u thank u , and yes i realise it wasnt the most original, but that wasnt really intented.
U can replace yellow by red etc ;) i shoudl have said a coloured road :)
And i soo much understand what PS tries to do, i can say with ease that i have a broad experience in RPG and MMORPG. BUT i admit it lacks originality altho hear me out for a second.
Before i posted this i talked about it ingame to see how people would react to it. Overal response was actualy positive, unless they were just being kind.
Let me rephrase ; a colour scheme for roads thus maps become less needed.
AND we LOOOOOVE the lollipop song :D I can even go further and say i know the steps that come with it :-[
But i can understand the fact u liek more original ideas. I just thougt it could be usefull and fun. And i cant stop feeling im in OZ :D but ur comments are fair just and pollite. Just the way we like it.
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Fair? Just? Polite!? Bah humbug, you're ruining this old menkis reputation of beign a grumpy old grouch. :P
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Coloured roads you say. It would be really hard deeming realistic. See this, Planeshift want to create a virtual medieval world, unlike most of it's competitors. It should be as logical as it is for a character of this world and colored roads wouldn't, realistically, have been made by a very sane person.
Just imagine it. If you were a mayor would the first thing you do be to color the roads blue, black and purple in order to find the mall?
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AAAh but there i disagree :)
Because in my region natural roads have teh tendeny to be redish of the iron in the ground.
In some other region the road tends to be brownish yelloish because of sulfer or clay
Im pro ´realism´in the sense enviroment etc...but natural roads arent all grey.
And the posh neighboorhoods all have red bricks btw :D
Not trying to push here just going into the conversation :)
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Nono, I do want a discussion, only it shall be grounded on logical means, which, in this case, they are. The color depends on the material and the area. Right now grey roads seem more probable as greystone reside in the local terrain. Sandy environments, like on the BG road, should be yellow. Though bare in mind, they should be "naturally" yellow, not some jolly post it-expression of Picasso's Guerrica.
Mkay, what we have come to
- There are natural colored roads, toned by local minerals.
- Planeshift focuses in creating a real world, in a phantasy universe, as is possible. Unrealistic tones wont be taken seriously.
- We're grumpy rebels with the single goal of destroying you. No hard feelings.
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of course natural colours :)
:'( dont destroy me. perhaps its best to delete the post?
Altho my logical side tells me ur being sarcastic......are u ???
but i still stand by the fact that where i live rich people have coloured bricks :D
I dont really see how this conversation can go on cause it has been answered.
Do realise this is the internet funny remarks dont translate well
- We're grumpy rebels with the single goal of destroying you. No hard feelings.
Is this serious?? :o
edit: Perhaps it might be interesting to have some parts of a city have coloured bricks for instance IF there was a castle the roads around the castle really deserve a different colour since people living near the castle wouldnt settle with the bricks the rest of the proletarians have. Streets around a pub would respectivly deserve a different colour same for slums. If u strive towards realism u should concider that in real life not all streets are a like.
And being honest im yet to encounter a country where architects didnt try to reflect the wealth of an area thru the appearance of the streets. Does that make sense ? :)
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- We're grumpy rebels with the single goal of destroying you. No hard feelings.
Is this serious?? :o
No, i'm in a sadistic mode today. I wont destroy you.
of course natural colours :)
:'( dont destroy me. perhaps its best to delete the post?
Altho my logical side tells me ur being sarcastic......are u ???
but i still stand by the fact that where i live rich people have coloured bricks :D
I dont really see how this conversation can go on cause it has been answered.
Your standpoint is very well marked. I can't help but agree that somehow, somewhere one will see colored cobblestones from the lake in a neaby fish village.
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Why don't they just have a cobblestone road or something?
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edit: Perhaps it might be interesting to have some parts of a city have coloured bricks for instance IF there was a castle the roads around the castle really deserve a different colour since people living near the castle wouldnt settle with the bricks the rest of the proletarians have. Streets around a pub would respectivly deserve a different colour same for slums. If u strive towards realism u should concider that in real life not all streets are a like.
And being honest im yet to encounter a country where architects didnt try to reflect the wealth of an area thru the appearance of the streets. Does that make sense ? :)
Oh well u can be sarcastic just put a smiley next time to clarify it humour is very difficult to translate over teh internet ;)
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Sohai, it does. And now when the matter is discussed I can't help but agree with you.
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aaaaw now ur just being kind cause i took ur remark personal :D
I do apreciate u replieing to the post :)
And if thats what u really think i cant help but feeling flattered :)
But i solomly swear ill try to comme up with such a crazy radical and original idea it will blow ur mind away..for instance..for a while i was in a think tank and there i popped the idea about how 2 players would be able to melt together and play thru 1 toon. combining eachothers pro and cons...geuss whats one of the new features being planned these days in future MMO
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for instance..for a while i was in a think tank and there i popped the idea about how 2 players would be able to melt together and play thru 1 toon. combining eachothers pro and cons...geuss whats one of the new features being planned these days in future MMO
Geeeeze, I don't know.
What we need to remember is I agree that colored roads could and can be a part of Planeshift (they, partly, already are) not to be mistaken with your first idea. I will look for some pictures and see if we can come up with something. We will need some shapes and concepts in order to look apon how and where this could be taking place.
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i agree with the fact that the first idea of a glamorous coloured road would be misplaced given the idea of PS.
And i will try to see if i also can find such a picture.
But again this is just a wishlist/ what if section of the forum.
But the river stones in a fishermens village does sound awefully right.
And when i think about it u are very correct in saying that it needs a thougt and it should make sense in the world and not resemble a colouring book of a 5 year old :)
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Good, we're advancing ; )
(http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/LandArch/roadside/images/cobble-closeup-big.gif)
Last minute pictures. The above could be made to fit the general walk of the city roads, note, I don't mean cities. Cities should have more organized cobbles to be representable. Smaller villages could make use of these, though.
(http://images.google.se/images?q=tbn:gzeqZlPRNphPGM:http://www.rvsproducts.com/images/Cobble/Lonestar_Cobble.jpg)
More greytone. Somehow reminds me of discipline, though the pattern isn't what it's said to express. Hmm. This pattern could also be used when accessing taverns.
http://www.irwinstone.com/PhotoGallery/images/Bergerac_Dublin%20Cobble%20with%20Circle%20Pack_jpg.jpg
As you wanted a more beautiful look because of grandeur. Here's a thought.
What do you think.
Will need to find some better ideas.
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and thats exactly how i pictured it \\o//
city´s get straight nice cobblers villages/slums /outskirts would be the more irregular stones irregular in colour...by that i mean some are grey some are grey brownish , maybe a hint of steelblue to give it a cold stoney effect.
I was thinking....would it help if tried to make a colour scheme of Ylkiaum ( i hope thats the way to write it) . Cause it woudl really improve teh overall glamour and appeal of teh city.
And the tavern remark is spot on. But what if the road -when u enter the city from teh spell shop side- is somewhat irregular shaped much liek ur first picture and then after the big staircase ( hehe wich one :) ) it is more strict as it says this is the big boys city. We have money we need to atract customers to come to our shops.
There is also place for brownish filthy looking stones or coblers? english isnt my native tongeu,
at the sewers cause a place where there is a direct entrance to a sewer should look more dirty because of the filth that gets carried out of by peopel moving in and out. Thus it would help starting players to identify parts and gates by the roads. since E, N, W and S coudl be anywhere atm :P
I wish i coudl go on but its 3.30 am and i think i shoudl force myself to bed :D
lets hold that thougt cause we´re definatly on teh road to something doable, esthetic and realisticaly justifiable :)
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Sohai, I'd suggest before you start. Don't post it in this forum. The devs have a rule, what happens in the forum, stays in the forum and will not affect their opinion at all other then for inspirational purposes. If you want to help the dev team, look up Talad, aka Luca, in Planeshift's irc chat #planeshift on freenode. The exact address can be found on the signature of a chap called Thompheonix. Get Mirc and connect to the server, then join #planeshift. I am saying this just to be sure you understand it if you haven't used Mirc before, just PM me if you need to ask anything.
Remember, don't post concepts you want in the game on this forum. Save it for later publishing in another forum or just ball the ideas directly with Talad or any of the developers.
I wish you the best of lucks.
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Will do, but im actually from primary occupation a composer, and i was thinking to aply to write some music from them. I think i will do that tthen to do some work on something im not fully sure of it is right, proper and usefull, but thanks for the advice :)
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Hmmm. Just a little reality check here. Ylaikum (the world of PS) is relitively small. The races have been here for over 700 years, and have populated every corner of the realm. We have no roads that you would not be hard pressed to tell from a game trail or dry riverbed...
Something wrong with that picture?
What I am saying, is the roads would be well built and kept up by now. They would have clear marking (border) stones, and either well paved, or well rutted paths. Different colors? Not likely, as the world is small enough that the people would have found the best type of stone and carried it to all roads. the exception would be the various Levels, as it is hard to lift rocks up that high. On the other hand, if the quary was on the First Level.... look out below.
I am sure they have plans for all this...
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I see were you're going with this, UTM, and i partly agree with you.
If you've followed the thread correctly you should see that we did not mean "colored" brick roads as in colored fence, and looking at the pictures, we added some possibilities to how pavement would look like outside certain places.
As for heavily stomped paving out on the roads, I see your point. I forgot to check that we were In a Stalactite! and that there would be no rain, and therefore no need for cobble, point taken. Though, I'll say this, Ylians have a tradition for cobbling their cities and are one of the working-races in Yliakum, therefore they'd at least brought a piece of their tradition into Yliakum.
I'm not saying it's right, i'm saying it is a possibility.
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Correction, there IS rain inside the stalagtite.
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Correction, there IS rain inside the stalagtite.
This isn't my day :-\