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Title: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Dragonfordge on August 20, 2006, 07:44:56 am
 :oyou have changed the name on every toon that i made on the game, why. dragonhand fordgehammer-changed first name.
devilfire (no last). wont let me have dragonfordge. thats my yahoo address and my co. name dragon fordge sculpturs.tryed fordgedragon masterhammer and you changed it as well. can you help? tired of picking names you change.
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Bereror on August 20, 2006, 08:35:44 am
Players Policy - Must Read! (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=21538.0)

Pay extra attention to the section called Naming Rules and once you do so, nobody will change your name anymore.
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Capprion on August 20, 2006, 10:08:06 am
hehe yeah reading a bit while downloading would have gave you the info nuff to to embarase yourself. your prolly gona be flammed....next time if i were you i would send personal msgs to admins or users or Devs or mods so you dont have to let everyone have a stab at you. theres a full list of rules in stickies all over this forum for ingame and on the forum
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Myrthe on August 20, 2006, 08:11:50 pm
what in Talad is a toon? Someone been playing toontown? that game is for people like my sister! lol!

lol j/k. ya you get flamed like that if you post before reading around.
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Karyuu on August 20, 2006, 08:14:44 pm
People do not get flamed :} They get frowned on if they persist, but that's the extent of it.

A "toon" is another term for avatar, or your character. It's used extensively as WoW terminology.
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: ThomPhoenix on August 20, 2006, 10:35:53 pm
Please take a step back and look at your names.
You are born as a peasant in this medieval world, would there be realy anyone named like that?
The only reason you can have a DeathStriker666 in games like WoW, is because that game = powerlevelling.
This game is a true roleplaying game however. How you spent your time in-game is up to you, but you can at least use a proper name :)
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: sesmi on August 21, 2006, 02:24:11 am
come now ThomPhoenix, you know were not all born as peasants, some of us have lived in nice homes in the city with a famous parent  ;D
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Kalika on August 21, 2006, 06:27:00 am
werent our names not supposed to be two words combined? i thought that was part of the rules but i still got to keep lotsone as my last name (though i wanted it to sound europeanish and be pronounced Lo-stone instead of lost-one so i didnt intend to have a combined words name)
i hope this wasnt another pointless post  :oops:
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Karyuu on August 21, 2006, 07:06:25 am
Word combinations usually need a story behind them - though they are definitely cool for last names. For example "Darktalon" would be a great Enkidukai family name, but it doesn't follow the Enkidukai naming conventions for a first and would thus need some sort of explanations. It sounds more like a nickname than something parents would give at birth.

This isn't set in stone though, and generally we try to be lenient and give players the benefit of doubt. Still, there are some combinations that just won't work - anything with "dragon" in it for example, as there are no dragons in Yliakum, or anything that just doesn't make sense in the medieval fantasy setting like "Fastbullet."
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Xordan on August 21, 2006, 03:58:40 pm
The only reason you can have a DeathStriker666 in games like WoW, is because that game = powerlevelling.

Not true ;) names like that are banned on my WoW server. They have strict naming rules on the roleplaying servers :P
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Siteri Kidachi on August 21, 2006, 04:01:22 pm
Well, there are no dragons in the real world either but people can still have names like Pendragon. Not to mention all the people with the last name of Griffin. Or are you saying that there aren't even mythical dragons?
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Farren Kutter on August 21, 2006, 04:20:31 pm
*Farren was just about to post what Siteri said*

EXACTLY!!!

I always wanted to find a chance to point that out! There or no dragons on Earth either... And if you let the Dragon Council remain (and it would be stupid to disband them now for the name because they have been around a long time and are a great guild) then you should allow the word 'dragon' to be in perhaps last names at the least.
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: neko kyouran on August 21, 2006, 04:27:52 pm
About the dragon thing, I talked to Miss K about it in PM's.  I hope she doesn't kill me for posting what transpired but it answers your questions.

What I sent her:

"You do realise that by even mentioning the D word, you probably have opened it up to someone replying along the lines of, "OMG i saw a guild with the word dragon in it, how come they get to be a dragon guild and i can't have it in my name, this game suxxors, screw this i'm leaving!!!!11one2""

Her response:

"Not at all :}

A guild with the name "Dragon" in it will be asked for an explanation. In this case they have a rather interesting "myth" set up that is acceptable. A character with a first name that has "dragon" in it will be asked for a story as well - or in the case that the character isn't around but the name was reported or the character logged off before a /tell could be sent, the name will just be changed and discussions will follow after. Sometimes you can immediately tell who will have a story and who won't"



To the characters you play that word, dragon, doesn't even exist in mythical terms, unless you got a really good RP explanation behind it.  As such, it is discouraged that it be used in side the game world.
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Siteri Kidachi on August 21, 2006, 05:01:37 pm
This is getting a bit off-topic, but sometimes it seems like PS is trying to have absolutely no overlap with the real world. Anything that is in the real world or real-world fiction is banned. Like cats for instance... there was one topic debating what an Enkidukai should say when they are referred to as cats, and the consensus seemed to be that there were no cats in Yliakum. Why should that be so? If you turn on the ambient sound, you hear normal-sounding bird chirps, and you can get fish that look like real fish... so why shouldn't there be cats?

A good way to cover this would be to do what was done with rats in PS: make Yliakum versions of animals that are recognizable but also unique. Like make cats more like monkeys with cat heads. They'd be called cats but they'd be different. As for dragons, maybe the Yliakum versions would be more like half-bird half-pterosaur creatures that would still breathe fire. Same name, same basic idea, but they look different.
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Farren Kutter on August 21, 2006, 05:37:27 pm
Last two posts (meaning Karyuu's thing about the names and Siteri's post) = Great :D
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Karyuu on August 21, 2006, 08:50:48 pm
Yliakum has its own versions of animals and beasts - but they are still different versions with sometimes different names. A Carkarass is not a dragon, and it shouldn't be called one. Dragons don't exist here - and the only reason people have names with "dragon" or "griffin" in it in the real world is because those things have meaning in the real world. We are trying to keep the setting fairly clean from real world references - so if something doesn't exist in Yliakum but you drag it in, you're making a hole in your world and your roleplay. It can be a very tiny thing - not calling a Groffel a Griffin - but it keeps the world concentrated.
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Siteri Kidachi on August 21, 2006, 08:55:15 pm
How about that thing over the message box on all the loading screens? That could be considered a dragon, I guess.
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Karyuu on August 21, 2006, 08:57:01 pm
Or just a serpent :} Stylized snake.

There are no dragons in Yliakum.
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Siteri Kidachi on August 21, 2006, 09:00:33 pm
Whatever. It's still pretty weird that we have an enemy named "Rat" that looks like a rat, in that case. Maybe it should be renamed to something like "Rotley" so that there's no implication that they're based on a real thing. All I want is consistency... if nothing can be named after real things, NOTHING can be.

Also, in that case, the reference to Ulbernauts being similar to grizzly bears (in the library book about them) should be removed, along with (possibly) any comparisons of the Enkidukai to cats anywhere. Dwarves should not be called dwarves, and elves should not be called elves. (Technically they aren't, but right now very few people refer to members of a certain race as Nolthrir, or Dermorians, or Stonebreakers or Hammerwielders. They just say elves and dwarves. This might be improved once every race has its own model and can be identified without having to look at the description every time.)
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Dragonfordge on August 21, 2006, 09:06:30 pm
Thanks for all the answers help me out, havent had time to read all the pages for new player info. Wil work it in somewhere soon.Just switching to linux, not very many games that i've found look as good or plays as well as this one. I will come up with a name that fits within format that i like. Thanks again to all. Dragon Fordge.:thumbup:
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Karyuu on August 21, 2006, 09:15:30 pm
Good luck and happy playing, Dragonfordge! :}
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Kalika on August 22, 2006, 07:04:23 am
so i take it that i shouldnt say i wnat to have baby kittens then.....
Title: Re: you keep changing my toons names? whats up with that?
Post by: Anne Ominous on August 22, 2006, 07:55:59 am
as far as "elves" & "dwarves" they absolutely exist in ps, just look up races on ps main page.

As far as cats & bears, while they don't exist yet, in game they may be historical or mythical or such, otherwise, yes woth removing from in-game books... i suppose...

The Rats of yliakkum  while at first i'd think it could be a good point [or funny guildname]...
rat  (rt)
n.
1.
a. Any of various long-tailed rodents resembling mice but larger, especially one of the genus Rattus.

... Similar to how anyone with certain physical traits is a dwarf...


Just because something exists in reality, doesn't mean it can't exist in planeshift. Many things should. The basic principle is that as many things as possible would be nicer if kept original... to that end why not start with player names, and try to as well with noncombattant npc names, and so on. Might bug me a bit too to be censored in names etc, but to complain seems like wanting to change the name you were born with-- in which you had 0 choice... I would presume...