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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Xeraans on September 12, 2006, 11:34:56 pm

Title: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Xeraans on September 12, 2006, 11:34:56 pm
Quote from: PlaneShift Main:
We are preparing a new update for the client, and we need some time to test it. The main server will be stopped until further notice (hopefully very soon!). The announcement will be posted here. In this off line time, improve your guilds sites!

I haven't even gotten used to this last one. XD
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Gharan on September 12, 2006, 11:43:55 pm
Any chance of some details and what will be updated?  :detective:

Or should i just  :-X

 ;D
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: ThomPhoenix on September 12, 2006, 11:46:20 pm
Some random keywords for you people who want to know what changes the update will bring:
Chess
Kran
Chat
Helm

Enjoy :lol:
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Gharan on September 12, 2006, 11:47:37 pm
Tell me more i beg  ::|

 ;D
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: ThomPhoenix on September 12, 2006, 11:50:01 pm
Let me think...
No!
Maybe that's all there is to know ;)
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Joban on September 12, 2006, 11:53:54 pm
Working in your free time and still a decent amount of updates to server and client. Well done devs :)

And.. chess?! Much love for that (if it's true..)
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Sisilam on September 12, 2006, 11:54:48 pm
.. and that hint is even A LOT if one can imagine :D ..

/me loves Planeshift
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Keldrena on September 12, 2006, 11:54:58 pm
I love you guys. Seriously. I looked high and low to find a good 3d role-playing game and here it is. \\o// Way to be.
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Xordan on September 13, 2006, 12:06:55 am
Lots of bug fixes, especially server side for stability. :)
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Keyaz on September 13, 2006, 12:08:54 am
lies! they actualyl worsened the bugs, and when they happen, they play a recording of Xordan laughing at you, I know it!
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Syilph on September 13, 2006, 12:11:04 am
Lots of bug fixes, especially server side for stability. :)
That sounds good enough for me. And if I'll get a complimentary hat...ummm helmet,to go with that too, I'll be happy like a ... well.. something happy.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Siteri Kidachi on September 13, 2006, 12:23:50 am
I'm pretty sure I know what those four updates are, and I like them!
(Actually I'm not that sure about the Kran one, but I know the others.)
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Duthsa on September 13, 2006, 12:27:46 am
Well,i agree i love PS! \\o//
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: eldoth_terevan on September 13, 2006, 12:30:33 am
Sisilam is right... those hints are enough! Waiting with baited breath, my friends... thank you!
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: zog on September 13, 2006, 12:42:49 am
I also wait! ...but my breath does not smell of bait
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Keyaz on September 13, 2006, 12:56:05 am
<@acraig> Talad will upload the new client/updater stuff tomorrow sometime I believe
<@acraig> until sometime tomorrow.  Talad was testing the psserver earlier and I am doing it now
<@acraig> I don't think it will require a whole download but Talad would be able to say for sure.
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: zhai on September 13, 2006, 01:03:45 am
Yay! Kill the combat bugs! Kill 'em good! :lol: Maybe it's time for Tales of Yliakum Vol.2 while we wait? Zorbels, where's your wagon?
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Verrliit on September 13, 2006, 07:06:11 am
For those of you with severe PS witdrawal symptoms, here is a surrogate.

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a96/Verrliit/014b4795.gif)
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Krann Omins on September 13, 2006, 08:55:27 am
Wow a thing for krans, hope its not something like "new visuals to choose from upon character creation" cause that would be a bit weak, tho still cool to see on the new krans... :flowers:


If chess is added i have about 0.000 000 000 expectation of  the victor relying at all on their intel stats...

Then again that could be explained easily, plenty o savants...

But the more i think abut it, the more it seems to upset me that chess of all things is being put in... ::|

I think i'd be more comfortable if everyone was given ranged wepaons, that only work on me, that they can aim whatever way they prefer, with infinite range, even through walls & mapborders, and i'm not allowed to carry one, and i am as easy to attack as a npc, don't even need to make duel challenge...

Because then i'd just keep dying all the time rather than being humiliated by always losing or rejecting chess challenges... :(


sadly this is a personal issue, i wouldn't say not to have it just for idiots like myself. If it's good for the game, good for roleplay etc, then good & g--er--talad bless...

 I just have issues with chess because i've had more than one occasion where i explain i know how to play but am really not any good, then the challenger, let's call them ChessExpert, ChessExpert is all "oh i'm sure we're proably about the same level"... Then ChessExpert whips out a clock (i think only 1 brought a clock)-- takes about 30 seconds of his time & 5 minutes of mine before i realize he cleaned my clock & he says something like "well i didn't think you'd fall for the [insert name of studdied chess-strategy-thing here]"...

To me, adding this is like it would be for non-sport enthusiast nerds if football were implemented.. all those liberty deffence plays & stuff... wait... my footbal experience is limited to the waterboy & the longest yard... Guess I'm an idiot and one of those non-sport-enthusiast nerds... NERRRRRDS!!!
(i think revenge of the nerds should get a modern remake, like all those other movies are getting... thing is we're in an era where the nerds are so dominant they often take the role jocks used to... Unless the setting is athletic...)

Ok i'll try to shut up now... I got no guild, so with the server down my options are post here, fiddle with skins to post here more... "other"...

Please dont take my personal gripe with chess as ingrattitude of any form for the update, I very much look forward to see all the other changes & i am thankful for whatever makes the game better for all, even if it makes me a little less enthused to play

... Shutting up
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Kiirani on September 13, 2006, 09:08:10 am
...
But the more i think abut it, the more it seems to upset me that chess of all things is being put in... ::|
....

I agree, but for entirely different reasons.. I think that the combat skills should be balanced relative to each other, as well as the physics and movement tweaked before adding board games..  Keeping NPCs and quests working would be nice too, although I don't know how much work has been done on that while I was on hiatus.

On the other hand, it'll be cool to have a new toy to amuse myself with while waiting for all of that to be done "soon". ^_^
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Peacer on September 13, 2006, 09:55:54 am
magic bug in pvp \o/ *blows it away*
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Datruth on September 13, 2006, 10:20:05 am
Anyone know the torrent to download it from yet?

What's the next version anyway?

I'm going to guess we'll have the update next monday or tuesday, the last one took a week, so this one might too.

Anyway, hope ojaveda isn't moved further away lol ;D

~~Datruth
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Gondric on September 13, 2006, 10:36:47 am
Have you seen the pic of the chess board? its wierdly shaped...
im pretty sure i read something about kran armor in the new update from Karyuu? maybe?
HELMETS! YAY and i forgot what the 3rd thign was...
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Syilph on September 13, 2006, 11:58:31 am
I wonder if we'll have any Drat'Ers helmets.  ;D
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: RayvenD on September 13, 2006, 12:00:49 pm
all i care about is moving whilst attacking without falling off the world, oh and quests working right again i suppose.
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Bereror on September 13, 2006, 12:17:06 pm
all i care about is moving whilst attacking without falling off the world

Sorry, but not in this update.
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Skatty on September 13, 2006, 12:23:03 pm
Oh Skatty needs a helmet badly getting hit on the head by daddy ulber is not a good feeling  ::| after all that damage I doubt he has any brain cells left for chess  :-[ hmm... I wonder if you can play against yourself to.. hehe i was born to be a loner :P
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Elvicat on September 13, 2006, 12:42:30 pm
lol skatty and oh yeah... i cant wait eather but it comes when it comes ;)
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Ralleyon on September 13, 2006, 12:47:18 pm
Quite frankly I don't think anyone would mind one or two versions dedicated to bug-solving really. New stuff is nice, but new stuff usually implies new code, which implies new bugs as well. Luckily I've a feeling this version is on the right track, quite a bit of fixes are coming in it seems.
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Verrliit on September 13, 2006, 01:30:40 pm
I will be extremely grateful, if only I finally stop crashing, with "server is not responding", and/or C++ runtiime errors, every three to ten minutes.

I will dare to hope.


~Verrliit~
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Peacer on September 13, 2006, 01:36:24 pm
/me offers a brand new linux distro to Verrliit
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Nimfis Altmer on September 13, 2006, 01:47:20 pm
When are we gonna get the servers back up? This update testings been going on for like 15 hours now.
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Taishi on September 13, 2006, 01:51:47 pm
is it so hard to read the main page?
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The main server will be stopped until further notice (hopefully very soon!)
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Socius Rockus on September 13, 2006, 02:52:38 pm
Don't forget the "hopefully"  I remember last time... 8-days
 :whistling: No I can do my homework at night again!  X-/
Péace out!
^^
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Yolki on September 13, 2006, 03:05:23 pm
i, for one, have already set up my shortcut to start the download and then seed the new client through Bitotrrent!

http://laanx.fragnetics.com/bt/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.exe.torrent

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/me holds his breath (Kran do not need air), crosses his fingers (well, maybe if they weren't made of stone and weren't...thick as a brick), closes his eyes (best that I can do seeing as I still can't sit down!), and thinks HAPPY THOUGHTS for the testing.

Meanwhile, back at the Hall of Justice....Praise be to the DEVS!!!
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Anfa on September 13, 2006, 03:24:16 pm
hmmmm...is the update so extensive that we will need bittorrent?
Was hoping to just pop onto the "updater" and away we go..  ;D

Anfa heads back to bed...might as well catch up on missed sleep...
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Thedrish on September 13, 2006, 04:51:42 pm
Patience ...

A word with a deeper meaning, but now something hard to practise  ;D
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: zhai on September 13, 2006, 04:55:16 pm
*Zhai sighs at the thought of falling off the edge of the world...

How about the knock back bug? (when you're pushed around/teleported when you start an attack while running) or the PvP magic? (basically these bugs (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=24450.0)).

*Zhai sits on the edge of the world wondering...
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: dying_inside on September 13, 2006, 06:11:37 pm
Kran.
Thats the one word I needed.
The rock people take a bow wohoo!
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Yolki on September 13, 2006, 06:18:40 pm
hmmmm...is the update so extensive that we will need bittorrent?
Was hoping to just pop onto the "updater" and away we go..  ;D

Just trying to 'be prepared', Anfa!
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Sisilam on September 13, 2006, 08:58:38 pm
...I agree, but for entirely different reasons.. I think that the combat skills should be balanced relative to each other, as well as the physics and movement tweaked before adding board games..  Keeping NPCs and quests working would be nice too, although I don't know how much work has been done on that while I was on hiatus....

yes and no .. did you always wondered why we have more than one department in PS? .. the point I mean is .. there might be a developer that is skilled in one part .. as example server scripting .. another one is master skileld in implementing some nifty things at the client .. another has great effort in balancing the system .. so after all there might be one dev that (maybe because he once wrote those stuff in his spare time independent of PS) has a small game that may be nice to have there even just to test another plugin or interface part of the game but he is not skilled in balancing some other part .. so why should he just sit down and wait implementing his stuff?

another point is .. balancing is something you will do at last in game or if the game shifts out in a too big way .. in other way it would mean to balance it each day for new and balancing each single step if you implement just a single item .. this would be an endless work .. so why balance a system which you know will be unstable for a while and while you know that you will even implement a lot of other stuff afterwards that needs rebalancing? This time could be used to implement first the other stuff.

Even if computers work with bits and bytes the reasons are not always just black and white!

.. just be patient .. I guess the Devs will have some nice new things for us  :D
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: socia on September 13, 2006, 09:10:19 pm
miaw miaw miaw...
I think that I'm addicted...
I was looking on changelog and I can say that devs should stop drinking so much coffe...
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: drah on September 14, 2006, 02:25:15 am
I have to admit I had hoped the bug that RayvenD and Zhai had mentioned would be sorted with this update.. because falling off the world and having to run all the way back from Oja can be a pain!!  :(

Still.. good luck \\o// with the updates, sounds like a few interesting additions.
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: RayvenD on September 14, 2006, 02:41:10 am
hmmmm...is the update so extensive that we will need bittorrent?
Was hoping to just pop onto the "updater" and away we go..  ;D

This is a good point, I know the devs don't ever release information about things to come, but seeing as we know there is an update coming, would there be any chance of knowing if it is a case for the updater of do we have to get a whole new download (if so the bandwidth usage will mean we all wait forever for the game)
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Datruth on September 14, 2006, 02:45:08 am
hmmmm...is the update so extensive that we will need bittorrent?
Was hoping to just pop onto the "updater" and away we go..  ;D
(if so the bandwidth usage will mean we all wait forever for the game)

Last update took me about 45 minutes to get, and i started seeding instantly, within the first minute of seeding, we had about 7 more seeders, within the next 20 minutes, we had about 30 or more seeders.

This won't take very long for the average computer user, but those on Dial up will wait a bit longer than others.

If you have DSL or higher speed, your fine, you'll get it in 1 or 2 hours TOPS!.

~~Datruth
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: RayvenD on September 14, 2006, 02:54:19 am
Ah that's ok then there was only 1 seed when I downloaded the current version of the client and it took me around an hour which to me is a while to wait...
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Datruth on September 14, 2006, 03:05:18 am
Ah that's ok then there was only 1 seed when I downloaded the current version of the client and it took me around an hour which to me is a while to wait...

It's really not very long, It is if you're staring at a moniter the whole time.

But basically the best thing to do is a side project.

While the Game is downloading, you could watch t.v, read a book, do homework, call a friend, go out and bowl, movies.

I mean it went by really fast for me, i was editing some videos when it was downloading, i'd check on it's status every 15 minutes or so.

Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: RayvenD on September 14, 2006, 03:10:08 am
I left school 6 years ago so no homework, tv bores me and I'm a proffessional musician/artist which gives me alot of free time, I usually read e-books whilst posting or playing PS/Other games when i'm not Tabletop RPing with my group. It gives me something to do in those early hours of the morning when noone with a regular/conventional pattern of work is up, ah well, i guess i'll just see how it goes.
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Xillix Queen of Fools on September 14, 2006, 11:52:28 pm
I cannot wait! :sorcerer:
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Altharion on September 15, 2006, 02:04:56 am
zomg cant wait for teh expansion pax  :P

now if only steve irwin was alive to see this..
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: TomT on September 15, 2006, 03:00:21 am
At this point it looks like using the updater will be all you will need to do.
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Gondric on September 15, 2006, 08:26:03 am
thank god...
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Xeraans on September 15, 2006, 08:38:13 am
Just informed that the server is currently (at the time of this post) is up, and the update art is ready, though I don't know if that's everything needed. Looks like we'll know soon, though. :)


*edit*
Nope, not everything needed at all. We'll have to be waiting a little bit longer, but it's deffinately worth it to me. :)
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Imshi on September 15, 2006, 08:54:38 am
Do not know if a new revision version is being distributed for download yet. If you have already downloaded and installed most recent release go to your PS dir, find file called "version", delete, run updater, drink beverage of choice and enter world when done.
Title: Re: Main news: New update coming.
Post by: Nilrem on September 15, 2006, 12:22:25 pm
Normally updates are avaiable through updater. In the previous version, it was recommended to completely download the game anew, since there was the image fileformat change, map additions... all and all, the difference between updating the game, and getting it through installer was not very high in terms of MB, and besides, the updating process was a bit tricky.

This, though, doesn't mean that a new package with .16 is not going to appear. In fact, I think it's healthy that such a package exists, for various reasons.

The main being that the previous version (.15) required of a manual patch, and this, besides requiring people to know how to open a zip file and overwrite old files with the new ones, required a more important thing. That is, the existance of this forums, the only way they could be aware of such a patch existance. Otherwise, the game would appear as flawy, and probably discarded. In that sense, a new package for .16 might not have this issues, so users downloading the game for the first time, don't get that feeling of faulty software, and they're able to enjoy the game right from the start (launching the updater once .15 was installed caused it to get wrong files, this should not happen with present release .16 so new users can launch the updater, on by default at the end of the installation process, without it messing up the game)