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Title: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on September 13, 2006, 08:28:08 pm
Ok i pretty much and drew something and realised i had weirdly improved since the last time i drew ages ago. I was trying to be origanal but the end one just ended up looking like a dragon even though it wasnt what i was aiming for.

(http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/624/dsc01961tv1.th.jpg) (http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01961tv1.jpg)

(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5950/dsc01971an1.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01971an1.jpg)

(http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/125/drawin0011od2.th.jpg) (http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drawin0011od2.jpg)
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Peacer on September 13, 2006, 09:34:56 pm
woah real great stuff narure :) hope to see more from you
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: dying_inside on September 14, 2006, 09:29:54 pm
The second picture is really nice  >o)
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Baldur on September 15, 2006, 03:50:18 pm
I like it, though not my style but it's nice :D
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on September 15, 2006, 09:11:05 pm
Thanks.  :sweatdrop: I was expecting a bit more critiscism... Which i would also like some so i know how to improve. And i lost my only rubber!!!  :(

To put it bluntly its a furry dinosuar:

(http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8458/dino1ju3.jpg)

Limbs are my sworn enemy
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Peacer on September 15, 2006, 09:56:34 pm
i think that the head needs a bit more detail... the arms are missing some elbows and muscles and the legs is missing some detail in muscles and all thoose limbs parts as you said ;)

Else main structure is good :D
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: dying_inside on September 16, 2006, 01:01:57 am
You need to research a little on structure and such.  I'm learning myself that Animals and Humanoids are tottaly different to draw.
I think animals are kinda harder somtimes.
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Kiraki on September 16, 2006, 02:25:21 am
I like your work i can see you have some good ideas. :D

It is really worth studying anatomy!  Knowing your anatomy makes things a lot easier so find yourself a nice book and do a little bit of reading.   ;)

Also note that shading is very important as it gives your picture shape and dimension.  Take a look at the following two links for a basic summary of shading:

http://www.learn-to-draw.com/members/drawing-basics/0117.htm
http://www.learn-to-draw.com/members/drawing-basics/0119.htm

Hope that helps.  :P

@dying_inside: I actually find people harder than animals.  I think this is mostly because animals are streamlined and anatomically make sense where as people are… bulky and very clumsy  ::| and that’s how I feel when I draw them too!
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Baldur on September 16, 2006, 02:31:26 am
I second what Kiraki said.

Nothing is more difficult then to draw a humanoid, where an animal would take one hour humanoids can take days. I think it lies in our efforts to make it look like ourselves. I've heard that selfportraits are among the hardest to draw.
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: dying_inside on September 16, 2006, 09:41:03 am
Hahaha, I could never draw a self portriat.
I think I find animals harder to draw  because I have only really just started to explore them, where as I have been drawing humanoids for years. Granted that its only over the past year or so that I have really developed and come a long way. But I havnt had the same experiance with drawing animals like that.
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on October 09, 2006, 09:51:54 pm
A couple trying out with pastels:

(http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7682/drawings0011sh2.jpg)

(http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2576/panda1sb5.jpg)

And the bug that Narure uses to comunicate with people

(http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7312/drawings0021xr7.jpg)

So how are these? A step forward, backwards or just same old?
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Datruth on October 11, 2006, 12:20:00 am
That last picture is awesome, very good.

I don't see any flaws in it, but again i'm not a professional artist.

I'd say you're getting better.
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Gharan on October 11, 2006, 12:21:54 am
Good work with the tiger  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: dying_inside on October 11, 2006, 11:50:07 pm
They are nice....
I cant give much advice myself because I dont really know animal anatomy, or at least how to draw it.
As for butterfly's i dont know  what butterflies are supposed to be drawn like either...

But so far I think they are nice.
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on October 18, 2006, 07:53:32 pm
Just a scrap of paper with an idea on it more than a drawing:

(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8044/drawings0031jj8.jpg)
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Haanz on October 19, 2006, 01:25:32 am
 :D I like the colours!...

Although... are the wings supposed to be like that? they look like they'ye backwards... perhaps consider the (most popular) skeleton of dragons. they're wings could be viewed as large webbed hands... the thumb would thus be the point farthest forward. and the sort of wave shape at the bottom of the wing would be the skin extending from finger to finger.

Once again, maybe you did this purposefully, but when I saw it, I saw backwards hands or wings... Other than that though, I like it! hah especially the piggish nose! :D
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on October 21, 2006, 09:59:03 am
erm *cough* yees the quintain (i love making up names) actualy flys backwards *cough*

yes that will make an exelent excuse

Edit:
another picture:

(http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/4423/drawings005kj1.jpg)
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on January 06, 2007, 06:57:34 pm
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2083/castle2gf9.jpg)

Ojavedan castle.
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: pKrime on January 06, 2007, 08:24:40 pm
Just a scrap of paper with an idea on it more than a drawing:

Things should start this way, ALWAYS! :)
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Proglin on January 07, 2007, 01:28:13 am
Looking forward to see more self proclaimed ink my friend  \\o//
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Baldur on January 07, 2007, 01:45:43 am
I like the gate and the perspective with the windows facing the stairs :)
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on January 07, 2007, 10:20:18 am
Thankoo, i can't decide if i should colour it, shade it, or leave it alone. I swear the pics look better on paper, i think they arent very sacnogenic. Then again the paper i use is about 2 inches larger than A4 so the scanner cuts alot off.
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Nurahk on January 07, 2007, 11:11:26 am
Being the sad Planeshift addicted fool I am.

(http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/4423/drawings005kj1.jpg)

This picture makes me think of the lag monster in the sea of glue.

Anyways, I'm going to go cry myself to sleep now :P
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: pKrime on January 07, 2007, 11:42:36 am
Thankoo, i can't decide if i should colour it, shade it, or leave it alone. I swear the pics look better on paper, i think they arent very sacnogenic. Then again the paper i use is about 2 inches larger than A4 so the scanner cuts alot off.

My little hint: find some references, some work similar to what yo u want to achieve... study the solutions applied by those that made it before than you and see what suites better to your needs. If you have a little knowledge about any 3d modeling program, see what a simplified version of your subject looks like with different shaders (a cube with four parellelepipeds at his vertices can simulate the ojavedian castle).

Often the difference between professional and amatorial works, is given by good documentation.
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on January 28, 2007, 05:44:09 pm
I will get round to your suggestion some time pKrime.

but for now:

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6357/planeshift002uo9.jpg)

(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9706/planeshiftlo6.jpg)

(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1024/planeshift001aa4.jpg)

A start of an idea for The Outlaws logo:
(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9822/planeshift003ef1.jpg)
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on February 05, 2007, 05:40:17 pm
Ahh, my army is ready:

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7038/squirrelyi5.jpg)
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Baldur on February 05, 2007, 08:24:00 pm
Eep! Squirrels with knives :O
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: LARAGORN on February 06, 2007, 02:44:43 pm
"Step away from my nuts"
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Croconil on February 06, 2007, 03:12:42 pm
Nice pics Narure.

I like the logo idea for the outlaws. That looks cool.

I <3 the killer squirrel :D
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on February 09, 2007, 09:43:26 pm
MWUHAHA THANK YOU!!!!  :lol: you are all to kind

and now for my finished outlaws logo:

(http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4059/logofinxf4.png)
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Croconil on February 09, 2007, 10:35:38 pm
Nice! Like the texture on the sack.
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Quitarias on February 10, 2007, 12:11:13 am
nice thought the feathers kinda miss their place in the arrow and maybe a litle background would be nice other than that all i could sugest is more drawing but you know that :p
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on February 17, 2007, 01:42:06 pm
Thank ye, yes i know about the feathers, i would have changed it but Elvi wanted somthing more badass, so here it is:

(http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9656/planeshift007wc3.jpg)

And more junk:

(http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/1805/planeshift006iy4.jpg)

(http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3536/planeshift009hy9.jpg)

*edit*

just cos it was valentines day:
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7828/heartme0.png)
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on March 17, 2007, 02:26:43 pm
My first forray into 3D modeling:

(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/2927/bananaszz4.png) Thank you Cherppow! (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=26870.0)

(http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4539/poleaxend2.png) and thank you Garris! (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=27970.msg321877#msg321877)

*edit*

The end of my sketch pad, I've already got a new one though :D

*edit*  coloured

(http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6923/peoplecol3ha4.png)
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on March 18, 2007, 03:10:19 pm
Texturized:

(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/885/poleaxeio6.png)

A rose :D :

(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1656/rosebb6.png)
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: dying_inside on March 18, 2007, 04:14:55 pm
Hmm, the axe looks cool, shame about the positioning of  the render, the  head looks to have some nice textures on it, but is  kinda hard to tell from that angel.

Nice Rose  though.
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on March 18, 2007, 04:32:45 pm
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5139/poleaxetg7.png)

better? I changed the texture on the handle a little also.

*edit*

(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1604/quibascayd7.png)

Quess whos back... Got a name for the little critter now "Quibasca"
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: dying_inside on March 18, 2007, 07:17:10 pm
Much better! A nice looking texture for sure.

Edit: Is the quibasca all one model?
From that angle it looks like the head and wings where made seperatly. I'm just saying because the first time I modeled a creature I made it all seperatly, but then I was advised to make it all from one cube. It took alot of time but it paid off. Actually the original creature looked quite crappy, but i made a few more since then (there was that textured one in my thread) and making it all from one cube has definatly made a differance to the model quality. 

Mind you I've never made a creature with wings so i dont how easy they are to make from exrude and still appear like wings. In my limited experiance its the textures that make up all the small bone details :)

Hope that didnt sound too critical, I do like it, just some feindly advice/observations, because i think you could make it better :)
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Garris Shrike on March 18, 2007, 08:01:32 pm
Ooooh Me likey, Narure. Sweet job on the axe! Was the drawing wat you wanted?
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on March 24, 2007, 11:03:42 am
Much better! A nice looking texture for sure.

Edit: Is the quibasca all one model?
From that angle it looks like the head and wings where made seperatly. I'm just saying because the first time I modeled a creature I made it all seperatly, but then I was advised to make it all from one cube. It took alot of time but it paid off. Actually the original creature looked quite crappy, but i made a few more since then (there was that textured one in my thread) and making it all from one cube has definatly made a differance to the model quality. 

Mind you I've never made a creature with wings so i dont how easy they are to make from exrude and still appear like wings. In my limited experiance its the textures that make up all the small bone details :)

Hope that didnt sound too critical, I do like it, just some feindly advice/observations, because i think you could make it better :)

Yes seperate models. Extruding everything seemed like to much of a pain in the backside because I'm not sure about adding faces exactly where you want them and what not. All I know about blender is from Cherppows thread and my smaking every button to see what it did when the model was annoying me.
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: dying_inside on March 24, 2007, 06:30:04 pm
Much better! A nice looking texture for sure.

Edit: Is the quibasca all one model?
From that angle it looks like the head and wings where made seperatly. I'm just saying because the first time I modeled a creature I made it all seperatly, but then I was advised to make it all from one cube. It took alot of time but it paid off. Actually the original creature looked quite crappy, but i made a few more since then (there was that textured one in my thread) and making it all from one cube has definatly made a differance to the model quality. 

Mind you I've never made a creature with wings so i dont how easy they are to make from exrude and still appear like wings. In my limited experiance its the textures that make up all the small bone details :)

Hope that didnt sound too critical, I do like it, just some feindly advice/observations, because i think you could make it better :)

Yes seperate models. Extruding everything seemed like to much of a pain in the backside because I'm not sure about adding faces exactly where you want them and what not. All I know about blender is from Cherppows thread and my smaking every button to see what it did when the model was annoying me.

Hehe, hitting eveything is a good way to start.
Extruding everything can be pain in the arse, but at the end worth it, that said I dont use blender, apart from trying to get the .dts exporter to work, I dont really like blender at all.  and if you want faces in a certain place just merge two together, or bevel a line and create a new one.
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on March 24, 2007, 07:13:04 pm
What other programmes do you recogmend to use? I'm enjoying doing 3D modeling at the moment but I wouldnt like to have to pay for somthing unless its really worth it.
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: dying_inside on March 26, 2007, 06:52:42 pm
I use wings, I like the interface alot more and I just generally find it easier to use than blender. I could probably get head around belnder if i tried, but to be honest I can do what I can do, modeling wise, with Wings. So why bother changing?
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Narure on April 14, 2007, 03:29:53 pm
More junk:

Fruit 'n' veg

The staserg, a root vegetable that tend to grow only in good moist soil.

(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7531/carrotolajg7.png)
(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9400/fruit3na7.png)


People are hard  :-[ I think I'll try Farrens style for people here on in becuase his stuff is amazing.

(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3038/fruit001fz5.png)
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Croconil on April 19, 2007, 10:30:59 am
For 3D modelling, I use milkshape. Its so easy for a starter at 3D modelling, the interface is small, and easy to use and learn. You aren't bombarded with buttons, so you can learn the tools quickly.

 Also, if you just do a google search for "Milkshape tutorials" there are some good starter tutorials to get you going.
Title: Re: Narures Junk
Post by: Proglin on April 23, 2007, 11:02:29 am
Your self prclaimed  "junk" is starting to look a lot better mate :) keep at it :)