PlaneShift
Support => Technical Help: Problems BEFORE entering the game => Topic started by: Apollyon on September 14, 2006, 09:25:22 am
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Well, after finally figuring out how to get the installer to download.
The updater doesn't work at all, so I looked around, and found the manual patch I was supposed to downoad, tried unzipping it and it tries to replace files, which is fine, but then it asked me for a password...?
Oh, and I get ahead of myself. I tried running it without updating it or anything, and it froze. I had unplug it from the wall to get it off, not even shutting my computer down would end that program.
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the client posted on the download page is outdated as of today...the developers are working on a new one...watch the main page "news" and the other related posts in the forum for new information as it is posted.
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If you're asked for a password when you are trying to unzip, try to unzip the files into another directory, or another drive entirely if you have one.
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In response to the first post:
What's a 'client'?
Second:
And in the thread regarding the manual patch, it said specifically to unzip the patch files into your PlaneShift folder. Was this misinformation?
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No, that is the default place you should unzip to. However for some bizarre reason a few people have been getting password prompts, and in this case they should try unzipping to another location.
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dictionary.com
client
5. Computers. a workstation on a network that gains access to central data files, programs, and peripheral devices through a server
basicly...a client is what runs PS...
and the thing you click on to open it i think
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PS client is the program you run from your computer to connect to the program runing on the main computer, known as the server.
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So nobody can play PS right now? If so, how often does this sort of thing happen?
Thanks ALOT for all this info, all.
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People have been playing for a while now :] The server has returned and you need to run the updater one more time (you might have to delete the file version.dat before it'll allow you to fetch all the new content). Are you experiencing any further problems?
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I hate to be so needy, but could you tell me step-by-step how to install this game from scratch and get it working?
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1.Download the PS Client and the patch.
2.Extract them to seperate directories.
3.Install planeshift.
4.Copy the patch into the planeshift directory (where you installed it to)
5.Delete version.dat in the planeshift folder.
6.Run the updater
7.Wait until it is finished and play planeshift!
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Adding a bit more content to Croconil's set:
- First make sure that your previous PlaneShift install is removed completely; Run the uninstaller, and then check to make sure that all files and folders were really deleted.
- Reboot your computer after uninstalling.
- Reinstall the 0.3.015 version that you download either from BitTorrent or from the mirrors (bonus points if you already had the install file saved away).
- Download the separate 0.3.015b patch.zip, and extract the files it has into your main PS directory. If you have a utility like WinRar, WinZip, or IZArc, you can just place the patch.zip into your PS directory, right-click on the .zip, and choose "Extract Here."
- Click Yes to let the patch overwrite all the old files with newer versions.
- Try running the updater. If you get problems with version messages, try finding the file version.dat in your main PS folder and deleting it, then run the updater one more time.
- You can also look here (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25589.0) for updating suggestions.
- Running the updater may be required several times before it fetches all of the new content.
If you need further help on any specific step, post back here.
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Adding a bit more content to Croconil's set:
- First make sure that your previous PlaneShift install is removed completely; Run the uninstaller, and then check to make sure that all files and folders were really deleted.
- Reboot your computer after uninstalling.
- Reinstall the 0.3.015 version that you download either from BitTorrent or from the mirrors (bonus points if you already had the install file saved away).
- Download the separate 0.3.015b patch.zip, and extract the files it has into your main PS directory. If you have a utility like WinRar, WinZip, or IZArc, you can just place the patch.zip into your PS directory, right-click on the .zip, and choose "Extract Here."
- Click Yes to let the patch overwrite all the old files with newer versions.
- Try running the updater. If you get problems with version messages, try finding the file version.dat in your main PS folder and deleting it, then run the updater one more time.
- You can also look here (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25589.0) for updating suggestions.
- Running the updater may be required several times before it fetches all of the new content.
If you need further help on any specific step, post back here.
So yeah, Listen to Karryu and not me. She knows more about it :P
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Alright, MUCH MUCH appreciated all. I'm going to try all this right now, following this advice religiously. \\o//
Edit: Think I figured it out
The updater downloaded a temp folder and a few zipped folders into my PS folder. What do I do with these?
*edit*
Alright, I got the updater to work properly... and now I ran the client, and it froze again.
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Run the updater several times?
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I ran it several times, but it only updated once. The consequent times it said no more updates were available.
I can't end the program. Not even shutting down my pc is making this program end, I'm going to have to unplug my pc frmo the wall.
Why is this happening...? This can't happen again, not even once, because my pc has been fried atleast four times, all with very expensive repair costs, because of having to manually turn off my computer too often and various parts of it getting fried.
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Wait, the updater/client is running even after you reboot your computer..?
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No. I know I probably should have rebooted after the installation, but it wasn't listed in the advice in this thread so I didn't do it, I told you, I followed your advice to a T. How do I end this program without having to unplug my pc from the wall...? There are two of them open now.
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How about you just reboot? :}
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Because it won't reboot with these programs open. My computer can't end them. control alt delete/alt+4 doesn't work iether.
Edit, I go to start ...> restart, and it just does nothing. THis is what it did the first time I ran the PS client - after waiting for four hours for it to reboot, I had to unplug my pc from the wall.
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Apollyon,
All newer computers won't just let you hit the power button and it turns off. You have t hold the button in for 5-10 seconds depending on make and model of your motherboard. Pulling the plug should always be a last resort. Try hitting the restart button, assuming you have one. I know crappy dells (or i should say all dells nowadays) don't come with a restart button, only the power button. Even then though, you should be plugging your equuipment into a UPS battery system or at least a good surge protecter, and those have on/off switches on them as well. Even youy power supply should have a on/off switch on it.
Karyuu, I believe this person means they aren't able to restart becuase their computer isn't shutting down atm. So it's still running in the background.
Edit, looks like some replies while I was typing. Fingers gotta wake up still. (just woke up :) )
Edit Edit, oh, and another thing. You can kill the process through taskmanager if you want to. press key combo control-alt-delete, select task maager, switch to processes tab, highlight psclient.exe, select end process. This is assuming you have given the proper rights to perform such a task on your computer by your local administrator.
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Pulling the plug was a last resort... I waited over four hours for it to finally end the program and shut down. Yes its plugged into a surge protector...
(slightly off topic: many places say that those things don't protect anything at all, that, if a power surge comes, your stuff will still get fried. The only purpose it serves me is extra outlets. :) )
I tried the power button the first time, it did nothing. I'll try it again now. Thanks for your patience, everyone,
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Alright, I held the button in for like 10 seconds, and ti just shut off, suddenly. How is that different than unplugging it from the wall...? It was the same effect. However, I didn't know I could do that, and I appreciate it.
And this is a pc, no administrator. The task manager bit did nothing as well, I know that little trick.
I ran the updater after it started back up again, and still no new updates. Only one update for me.
What else should I do before trying to run the client again...?
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A little off topic, but a decent surge protector will prevent against most power surges. The only exceptions being when the surge isn't quite strong enough to trip it. But in those cases, a good surge protector will trip at a level where the lower ones that can get through won't cuase damage to your system anyways.
A better solution is to run on a UPS. It's the same thing as a surge protector accept that the computer recieves its power from the UPS. The UPS takes power from you outlet, stores it in its onboard battery, and the computer draws its power from the battery. In the case of a surge, the computer is never hit as it stops at the UPS. The only time when surge protectors fail is when there is low power, aka brownout. (you may have experiened it, it's when the lightbulbs in your house turn on, but are real weak) That is what really kills electronics, as electronics are desinged to have a certain amount of power going through them, a lower voltage tends to cause havoc. But again, a UPS protects against this as the computer is still getting its needed amount even under a brownout, since it draws its power from the UPS batteries.
Ok, I'll be quiet now.
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Try to run the updater 2-3 more times, then try the client.
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Hrm, very useful info, thanks.
Edit: alright, I'm on it.
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holding the power button for 10 seconds omits a forced shutrdowen that overides all other processes, but is still shut down semi-safely, pulling the plug is like pulling out your intestines to go to sleep, doesn't help much ;)
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*edit*
Alright, I held the button in for like 10 seconds, and ti just shut off, suddenly. How is that different than unplugging it from the wall...? It was the same effect. However, I didn't know I could do that, and I appreciate it.
When you first hold in the power button, you send a signal to the motherboard saying you want it to start to turn off. It then starts to do the needful processes to shut things down. Also, under win 2k and higher, you may notice that when you shut off a computer in this way, as soon as you start to hold in the power button, it will bring p the log off screen, as the OS is preparing for system shut down. In summary, doing it thisway, is giving the system a time advance warning that its getting shut off so that it can prepare for that. As oposed to just pulling the plug, in which the system has no warnng its about to lose power.
edit, then theres keyaz's answer as well. :P
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Alright, everything works. Much appreciated everyone!