PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Suno_Regin on October 02, 2006, 03:07:46 am
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Why exactly are the system and chat tabs merged now? It's really annoying to see all those hit messages and try to read what people are saying at the same time, in fact it's impossible. It's a little retarded to me that you have a "System" tab, and have the Main tab be a merge of chat and system. What was wrong with the other way? Every time something's changed, it seems to be for the worse, just like with the NPC chat thing. Can we at least have some sort of day-long vote to decide how things are changed (not for all updates, just when things are changed for the "better") so we aren't irritated by things like this that just pop up out of nowhere? And also, every time a tab blinks, I have a habit of clicking it. But if we're on the Main tab, and then the system tab goes off, I click that. Then when I'm on the system tab, the main tab goes off, and they're both system messages that I've read in the other tab. It's annoying because I could be missing something important someone's saying and not even know it this way, because I've given up on tab hopping and I've just stayed on the system tab having Main blink all it wants.
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Are there no filter options anymore?
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I agree, but some things must be left behind, to move on.
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the main tab is all the things u can see in real life. like u can see someone hit you (does it show how much u hit?) u can hear them talk wave do the /me command etc...
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the main tab is all the things u can see in real life. like u can see someone hit you (does it show how much u hit?) u can hear them talk wave do the /me command etc...
Interesting take. I too would have a hard time paying attention to a conversation if a rat was gnawing on my ankle.
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at first i didnt like it either...but i think it is more conveienent...except when mining and looking a tthe systems tab and then something starts attacking you
*sigh*
stupid clackers/rogues/tefusangs
bah
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What I find annoying is when /guild, /tell and /group messages start "spamming" the main tab. Since it's the only tab for chat it's really easy to miss info when you start getting those messages, especially if they are OOC (which is kind of bad too because there's really no "clean" RP tab now). Having to group to RP without those interruptions may seem the answer but what if you want to RP in a public area and let other overhear? Just my two trias. I'm getting used to the new system but I do miss the All and Chat tabs.
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hmm I would really like to see that you can chose what the main says and that you could also chose to turn that blinking of for tabs you don't want to pay attention to.
Just the option to chose would fix most problems people are having in my opinion.
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What I find annoying is when /guild, /tell and /group messages start "spamming" the main tab. Since it's the only tab for chat it's really easy to miss info when you start getting those messages, especially if they are OOC (which is kind of bad too because there's really no "clean" RP tab now). Having to group to RP without those interruptions may seem the answer but what if you want to RP in a public area and let other overhear? Just my two trias. I'm getting used to the new system but I do miss the All and Chat tabs.
Couldnt agree more. Tha auction messages flood the main tab aswell as those Zhai mentioned.
the main tab is all the things u can see in real life. like u can see someone hit you (does it show how much u hit?) u can hear them talk wave do the /me command etc...
True but... When someone is having a conversation, they tend to ignore a lot of background noise. Lets say you are in an open plaza full of people, and are having a conversation. You listen to the people you are talking to, but ignore most everything else. In real life we can turn off our cell phone (guild chat/tell),or choose to answer it or not, we dont walk around with a news paper in our face (Auction). People have a kind of 'tunnel vission' when it comes to comunicating, we concentrate on one thing at a time (for the most part).
Before someone jumps on me about the cell phone thing as a comparison for a medieval setting, let me say this. The Guild chat and tell are not 'realistic' for the setting either, unless we all have telepathy. There was only face to face, or writen comunication.
Didnt one of the Dev's say they were going to change this in the first few days it was implimented ?
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what I don't like is that you can filter out most combat related messages but you can't seem to filter out "rogue is almost dead" and the like. Why are these messages necessary in the first place?
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what I don't like is that you can filter out most combat related messages but you can't seem to filter out "rogue is almost dead" and the like. Why are these messages necessary in the first place?
I think it's a part of the new yield system which is in the works.
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i dont thik the tabs disrupt much of the game really...its jsut a detail
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What I find annoying is when /guild, /tell and /group messages start "spamming" the main tab. Since it's the only tab for chat it's really easy to miss info when you start getting those messages, especially if they are OOC (which is kind of bad too because there's really no "clean" RP tab now). Having to group to RP without those interruptions may seem the answer but what if you want to RP in a public area and let other overhear? Just my two trias. I'm getting used to the new system but I do miss the All and Chat tabs.
I couldn't agree with this more. When you have to group to roleplay (for example playing tripps in the tavern) onlookers can't hear what the players are doing and can't figure out the game, so they constantly ask, "wth?" This further floods main as tells starts bombarding you.
Also when you group to roleplay it exclude those around you that you want to hear you and join in the fun.
And what's with all that flashing? If you're in main and "received the guild message" why is guild flashing? Wasn't like that in the past. Good thing I'm not epileptic.
Now I have to expand my window to like 10-12 lines so that I don't miss something someone standing next to me says because my guildchat just flooded main. Please put the chat tab back. Or like someone else suggested, give us the option on defining what goes into main.
Thank you for your consideration.
And thank you for all the hard work! I don't think that gets said enough; just a bunch of complaints.
Araye
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Ive found the worst place to be the arena you constantly miss people chatting to you and its very annoying.
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"giev customisable chat tabs plx" <---- is what really needs to be said. And then done.
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http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25567.msg283897#msg283897
The main chat is to be fully customiseable, it just isn't at that point yet.
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Main Everything that is visible and audible to your IG character.
NPC Talking with NPCs.
Tell Private tells.
Guild Guild chat.
Group Group chat.
Auction Auction messages.
System System messages.
Help The help channel.
This is how the chat system works right now and there are no tells nor guild messages on the main tab. If you get them on the main tab, then either you haven't updated the game or updater mirrors aren't updated. I can't confirm the later because my official Windows client stopped working long time ago.
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I'm not in a guild, but last time I got a tell it didn't show up on my "main" tab. I'm using the windows .16 download, then running updater from there.
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Ber, I'm not doubting you that "main" is supposed to be as you say. But, I get "everything" in "main" on my fully updated linux client.
And please keep /roll in the main tab as we use the /roll to rp "Tripps" and "Blood and Bones". Thank you!
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I guess you have to poke Xordan then and ask him to update the Linux client :)
/roll is on the Main tab.
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Hmm, i am using windows, and guild/tells/etc are not in my main tab. Maybe it is wrong in the Linux client only or maybe also in the Mac client?
The main tab more or less shows everything that my character can see/feel/hear, except some details like "you eat the apple and feel better" and mining results are only in the system tab (so my character doesn't know if he had success mining :D), but else the system works.
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(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/zognarlio/snoopydance.gif)
-is what I would do if a chat tab were re-implimented
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To be honest, I have got used to the new tabs. Not sure I miss the old ones any more ;D
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(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/zognarlio/snoopydance.gif)
-is what I would do if a chat tab were re-implimented
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i10/LARAGORN/Halloween/denver6.gif)Is what i would do :)