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Title: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: Croconil on October 03, 2006, 04:12:46 pm
I would like to know what peoples favorite ground breaking albums are.

My favorites are:

Master of Puppets - Metallica.   

This has got to be one of the best albums. Some of the riffs and lyrics are so musically complimentative, it makes it ground breaking in my eyes.

Nevermind - Nirvana

This is also an amazingly ground breaking album. The lyrics, the music, the drums, the whole album is amazing. Smells like Teen Spirit has got to be one of the best Grunge songs ever.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: zanzibar on October 03, 2006, 05:50:28 pm
24 hour revenge therapy (Jawbreaker)  ---- emotive punkrock with an emphasis on texture and harmony? yes.
Spiderland (Slint) ---- incredibly influencial to the indie rock world, especially math rock and instrumental rock
It's me god (Breach) ------ amazing textures, heavy, predicts later hardcore bands
Melloncollie and the infinite sadness (Smashing Pumpkins) ------- a monster of an album, popular rock but intense
Bitches Brew (Miles Davis) -------- jazz plus jimmy hendrix
Badmoon Rising (Sonic Youth) ---------- the album bombed but it's genius, noise with a great level of intention
Daydream Nation (Sonic Youth) -------- this album is sex
Dark side of the moon (Pink Floyd) --------- an early "concept album"
Zen Arcade (Husker Du) ---------- incredibly influencial to emotive punk
The theory of harmonial value (moneen) --------- their later stuff sucks, but this album has a lot going for it, incredibly influencial to its scene
Stoner witch (melvins) -------- sludge
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: Drey on October 03, 2006, 06:26:00 pm
.. ground breaking would be?
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: Croconil on October 03, 2006, 06:34:33 pm
Such as the Nirvana album.

alot of rock was quite mild as such, and then Nirvana released this album and grunge was born :D
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: zanzibar on October 03, 2006, 06:44:29 pm
Such as the Nirvana album.

alot of rock was quite mild as such, and then Nirvana released this album and grunge was born :D



Only pop rock was "mild"... Nirvana didn't change anything except the mainstream.
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: Drey on October 03, 2006, 06:54:21 pm
nirvana are overrated.
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: zanzibar on October 03, 2006, 06:57:48 pm
nirvana are overrated.


Overrated by some, underrated by others.
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: Drey on October 03, 2006, 07:18:23 pm
nirvana are overrated.


Overrated by some, underrated by others.

Possibly, i just dont like them - and similarly people who go on about them alot... i have nevermind, dont like it though.

I don't know how i would proclaim any of the albums i own ground breaking... but many of them are very good
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: Croconil on October 03, 2006, 07:24:25 pm
I love Nirvana. I think they are an amazing band :D

But everyones entitle to thier opinion eh?
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: zanzibar on October 03, 2006, 07:27:18 pm
Oh, I forgot the Indian Summer recordings!  But they never really had an album...
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: Drey on October 03, 2006, 07:28:49 pm
But everyones entitle to thier opinion eh?

I prefer my opinions.
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: Croconil on October 03, 2006, 07:31:12 pm
But everyones entitle to thier opinion eh?

I prefer my opinions.


Erm, Good for you? :whistling:
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: zanzibar on October 03, 2006, 07:52:30 pm
Drey, you have to admit.... would you really want a band like Skid Row to be the major band of the early 90's?
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: zog on October 03, 2006, 08:40:12 pm
oh come on now ...Nelson!

hehehehe  ::)

 Nirvana was the harbinger of doom! (remember, I played in hair metal bands :P) ...it made a HUGE change in the popular music scene. They were not (with the possible exception of Grohl) a terribly musical band ...but they had power and emotion. They also paved the way for musicians of lesser ability to become iconic (no more guitar heros)
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: Ralas on October 03, 2006, 10:12:55 pm
I'd have to agree with the Metallica, Nirvana, Pink Floyd, and Pumpins albums already mentioned.  To that I would add NIN - Pretty Hate Machine, Rage Against the Machine - Self Titled, Deftones - Around the Fur, and albums of some lesser known bands that were ground breaking for them, and for me when I heard them: Jimmy Eat World - Clarity; Thursday - Full Collapse; AFI - Black Sails in the Sunset; From Autumn to Ashes - Too Bad You're Beautiful; Social Distortion - Self titled; The Gin Blossoms - New Miserable Experience.  This is all that I can think of, for now.
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: Kiern on October 03, 2006, 11:07:41 pm
Hot Water Music - No Division
Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come
Kid Dynamite
Gatsby's American Dream - Ribbons and Sugar

Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: RayvenD on October 03, 2006, 11:59:07 pm
How can you say the Nevermind album started punk? It wasn't the first grunge album, it wasn't even the first Nirvana albuim? groundbreaking album my arse.  I would have to say the favourite groundbreaking album I have is "Not of This Earth - Joe Satrianni" To me this album took the guitar out of the band and gave guitarists a platform of expression which ciould only previously be satisfied in the heavy metal/hard rock/jazz genres.
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: zanzibar on October 04, 2006, 12:02:06 am
How can you say the Nevermind album started punk? It wasn't the first grunge album, it wasn't even the first Nirvana albuim? groundbreaking album my arse.  I would have to say the favourite groundbreaking album I have is "Not of This Earth - Joe Satrianni" To me this album took the guitar out of the band and gave guitarists a platform of expression which ciould only previously be satisfied in the heavy metal/hard rock/jazz genres.


I don't think anyone said that Nevermind started punk, just that Nirvana brought with them a less polished more "real" sound to mainstream rock.  Bleach wasn't really an album anyway, it was more of a demo.  And Nevermind was the album that people heard first, so it's the one that counts.
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: miLosh on October 04, 2006, 12:22:46 am
System of a Down - Selftitled -> for starting SOAD in general and never before heared vocals, lyrics, drums and arrangement ;)
Slipknot - Iowa -> for having the most pressing, heavy & energetic tracks from slipknot and all other rock/metal albums
Pink Floyd - the dark side of the moon -> for countless hours on different drugs   :whistling:
Kidney Thieves - both albums -> for deus ex 2 soundrack and some of the most dramatic rock/industrial mixes i ever heared
Portishead -> both studio albums + live album -> well its portishead, what else i have to say?  a class of its own
Massive Attack - Mezanine -> for a new style of triphop, just massive

im sure there are dozens more albums worthy the title "favorite ground breaking album", but that's all i can think of rightnow
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: Drey on October 04, 2006, 01:56:30 am
to continue from ralas, jimmy eat world - clarity, is definately great... adding a more emotional felt side to rock music.

Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: Robinmagus on October 04, 2006, 01:57:58 am
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System of a Down - Selftitled -> for starting SOAD in general and never before heared vocals, lyrics, drums and arrangement


would have to agree. Peephole rocks >_>
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: ramlambmoo on October 04, 2006, 07:31:39 am
System of a Down -> Self Titled
Rage against the Machine -> Self Titled
Limp Bizkit-> Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water (Love them or hate them, it was the first Rock album to sell more than 1 million albums in a week, and it Really brought in the whole Nu-Metal thing- again, love it or hate it, it broke ground).
Korn -> Follow the Leader (Again, lead Nu-Metal)
Title: Re: Favorite Ground breaking Album?
Post by: Croconil on October 04, 2006, 06:14:09 pm
How can you say the Nevermind album started punk? It wasn't the first grunge album, it wasn't even the first Nirvana albuim? groundbreaking album my arse. I would have to say the favourite groundbreaking album I have is "Not of This Earth - Joe Satrianni" To me this album took the guitar out of the band and gave guitarists a platform of expression which ciould only previously be satisfied in the heavy metal/hard rock/jazz genres.

No one said it started punk, and no one said it was the first Grunge album. Also, noone said it was the first Nirvana album. Please get your facts right before making yourself sound like a moron.