PlaneShift
Gameplay => Wish list => Topic started by: Suno_Regin on October 15, 2006, 05:10:56 am
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Give us a timer on duel challenges. Do you know how pissed off I am now because I lost 10 duel points when I challenged someone and Laanx killed me? When I challenged someone the second tme, it said I had 2 minutes left, so I waited about 5 minutes, then I challenged again and I got killed from that penalty. It's bullcrap that the time gets so screwed up that I'm pretty much scared to make a challenge now because it'll try to screw me over again in some way. Give us a timer somewhere so that I can know when to challenge again without risking being killed to figure out how much time's left. >.>
Please use a descriptive title, and avoid cursing and -highly- inappropriate word choices.
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Give us a timer on duel challenges.
Here let me help you with that. "May Suno_Regin please have a timer on duel challenges?"
Manners might help you get your wish. I think demanding like this is your game will have the dev's not even bother to look at this thread.
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I'm just pissed off right now. Because the time limit's screwed up, I lost all my points and continue losing. I need a timer so I know when I can challenge again. And they need to look at this thread to read it anyway.
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Do duel points really matter?
Eh, not saying it's a bad idea.. Just, do they matter that much? You'll lose 'em in the next wipe :/
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To me they do. Hard to explain, just I like to collect them, just like how I like to collect ornated weapons.
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Duel points, another reason why cakes are made of sponge.
but seriously, the whole thing about duelling for points is pointless and just here as a temporary measure to keep some peopl entertained, dont expect it to be improved, expect it to be removed, as it should be done, duelling ideally is there for use as part of RP if necessary, nothing else
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I'm just pissed off right now. Because the time limit's screwed up, I lost all my points and continue losing. I need a timer so I know when I can challenge again. And they need to look at this thread to read it anyway.
I can definitely appreciate your hard work in trying to get those duel points. We all ... that is those who understand how you play your characters, know your playing style in planeshift. You like to duel, and play the bully type character and that is strong and confident. Truthfully in game it is nice to have variety and you take on a role that all of us can interact with whether it be a positive or negitive experiance. That being said, it sucks you lost your duel points. In the end though there is nothing that can be done about that. Not to say that the devs couldn't change your stat's ..... but then if they do it for you, they will have to do it for everyone. I don't think that will happen but maybe they will note from your thread how frustrating it can be and make it one of the more necessary bugs to fix ... if it even is a bug?
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dueling is great read my sig
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The dueling timer is indeed made wrong. It is one of these features, which are supposed to stop not-roleplayers from disturbing roleplaying of others. As you can see it is now the other way.
At that time i tried to explain exactly the same situation as with Suno, but nobody listened to me. Maybe now... there will be done something about the timers, huh?
It is the same in trading, dueling and similiar, when you are sending request and someone has to agree.
The first time this person wont agree by accident, or maybe because will want to know few answers before agreeing... The second request will be locked and here we have wasted time. There is completly no alternative to do it the other way in most kinds of these requests-agreeing.
so
There can't be penalty after first request, but after second declined
give us visible timer which will count the time!
simple request, but really needed, to clean the mess which was made already long time ago.
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It's a sad day when you find yourself almost wanting a bug not to be fixed, just to spite the way it was reqyested. ::)
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Give us a timer on duel challenges. Do you know how pissed off I am now because I lost 10 duel points when I challenged someone and Laanx killed me? When I challenged someone the second tme, it said I had 2 minutes left, so I waited about 5 minutes, then I challenged again and I got killed from that penalty. It's bullcrap that the time gets so screwed up that I'm pretty much scared to make a challenge now because it'll try to screw me over again in some way. Give us a timer somewhere so that I can know when to challenge again without risking being killed to figure out how much time's left. >.>
Please use a descriptive title, and avoid cursing and -highly- inappropriate word choices.
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=21985.0
http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=23029.0
It's a flawed system. I made the recomendation that a "Decline and Warn" option would be added to invitation windows, and a few Devs really liked the idea, but DaveG shot it down saying that anything I said about the system was automatically worthless since I was the reason he made it in the first place (which is a lie).
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DaveG shot it down saying that anything I said about the system was automatically worthless since I was the reason he made it in the first place (which is a lie).
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Thats pretty much verbatium?
I mean I understand the reason they are there - anyone who spans people with duel requests is annoying... but anyways no one has seen daveG in quite a bit - I know I havn't. Maybe make a suggestion again if you really feel it is necessary. Sometimes you can make a suggestion and hope that the disenting person doesn't show up... :oops:
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Thats pretty much verbatium?
From the conversation on IRC:
<DaveG> there used to be a horrible problem of people spam inviting/challenging everyone they see
<Kanalal> and?
<DaveG> I rewrote the system, and the people rejoiced
<DaveG> now, the spammers are complainging
<DaveG> the only valid issue is that the spamPoints don't expire more than once at a time
<DaveG> and as I have said, if I EVER get a complaint from a non-spammer, I'll change it
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<DaveG> yes, and no sane person would dissagree with my statements
<Shalmaneser> Oh?
<Arianna> then I am insane :)
<DaveG> the most I did was call you an ass
<DaveG> which you are
<Shalmaneser> DaveG, you did more than that.
<Arianna> please, stop insulting people here.
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<DaveG> Shalmaneser: the only people who have EVER complained about the spam blocker are the spammers
<DaveG> Shalmaneser: I don't want to add "warn" buttons over the whole game, and there's not a chance in hell they won't be abused to no end
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<DaveG> no one has agreed with you!.
<Shalmaneser> I'm not looking for a fight here.
<Arianna> I did...
<DaveG> the except ary, and she's doing it to piss me off :P
<Shalmaneser> A few others did too.
<Kanalal> shalmaneser: do you realy believe that a system which allowa players to punish other players would not be abused?
<Arianna> Kanalal, isn't like that already?
<Niavard> I'm also doing it just to piss you off
<DaveG> xordan did, and has now recinded once he found out who you are
<DaveG> you're also ignoreing the whole "ugly" part of adding a "warn" button
<Arianna> oh, god.
<Shalmaneser> This is all very melo-dramatic.
<Arianna> like if there are not already tons of ugly things like the info window, neh?
<Xordan> He threatened to kill my family if I didn't agree with him xP
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So hey could I "auto-decline and warn" or do you figure auto-declines should get a free pass? If you RP a request I might consider turning off auto-decline for that particular instance but just sending an invite/challenge/trade without a word is OOC and takes away from my role-play. :thumbdown:
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Auto-declines should be a free pass.
And now I'm really ticked off. I challenged someone to a duel for the first time since getting out of the death realm (and I'm an Enkidukai, so add the run all the way back to Hydlaa with barely any stamina, which is nearly 20 minutes), then I fought a rogue for about 10 minutes, and that's when I challenged him. Well, I got kicked from the server, and lost 30 duel points.
Fix this system, and I mean fix it now, I'm beginning to get really pissed off here. Dueling's my nature, and plus these penalties should only come into effect when spamming one person, not having a challenge declined by someone and then challenging anyone else causing Laanx to personally kill you. It's especially annoying when we're having duel practice in DR. Give us a timer, and make it so only spamming one person penalizes you, not every person you see.
Please be careful with your word choice, AGAIN.
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You know, asking for something nicely for a change could maybe make people less upset with you.
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so what is it you do exactly suno? run aroudn and challenge people to fight?
and you get annoyed when the decline and you get punished?
did you not stop to think that this system is in place to stop people randomly challenging others... I mean, all you have to do is walk up to someone and say
"excuse me, you look like a fair warrior, would you care to take up a friendly duel with me?"
they say yes, you challenge, they say no, you walk away, omigoshlooknopunishment! :O :O
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it is possible they will agree but then forget to turn off auto-decline...
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Shortcut:
/ me comes up to $target as if looking for a fight.
/tell $target [ooc. If I challenge you, will you accept?]
If accept, then challenge.
If decline, then shortcut:
/ me rolls his eyes and moves off as if dismissing $target as an unworthy foe.
/tell $target [ooc Thanks, maybe another time.]
Crackers don't matter.
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so what is it you do exactly suno? run aroudn and challenge people to fight?
and you get annoyed when the decline and you get punished?
did you not stop to think that this system is in place to stop people randomly challenging others... I mean, all you have to do is walk up to someone and say
"excuse me, you look like a fair warrior, would you care to take up a friendly duel with me?"
they say yes, you challenge, they say no, you walk away, omigoshlooknopunishment! :O :O
I don't randomly challenge, I used to as Kenti a long time ago, though. We were having duel practice in DR, and that's when my first challenge was declined because he wasn't ready when I challenged him. So then he challenged me, we dueled, all that. Well, I was done, so I left DR. Took me about 15-20 minutes to get back to Hydlaa. I stopped at the rogue and fought him a bit, then someone was being annoying and kept saying "give me money" "give me money" "give me money" so I got tired of it and challenged him. Well, it got declined, so Laanx decided to kill me, kick me, and take away 30 duel points. Not only is the timer screwed up, but the punishment is a little too extreme. It should only do these things to you if you challenge someone and they DECLINE you twice, not punish you simply when you challenge them again, because you don't know how they would respond, especially during duel practice in DR. Also, it should only be when you challenge that one person, not everyone, that gets especially annoying. And 10 minutes? Too long, should be about 5 at the most. 10 minutes makes it so once you get declined you wait for so long you have to challenge someone again to simply figure out how much time you have left.
And I realized something, apperantly when checking your time from challenging someone, it adds yet another 10 minutes so that even though it says you have to wait about 3 more, it changes to 13, just to fool you. It's a trap setup so they can easily kill you, and especially annoy Enkidukai, making them walk all the way back to Hydlaa. Ever since DaveG got control of all these different systems, it's been hell trying to even use the duel system without risking being banned because it's glitched (or just DaveG trying to get us banned by extending the timer every time you challenge someone before the 10 minutes are up).
Now, like I said before, can we just have a timer? Please? It's impossible to even duel not knowing how much time you have left.
Also, you have to consider something. My newest character is an Outlaw, thus means a lot of thievery, killing, etc.
Let's say, during a roleplay. I try to mug someone, challenge them to a duel, they decline and say "I don't want to participate" or something stupid like that. Well, they just ruined the roleplay I'm trying to make, made it impossible for me to try and attempt the roleplay again for another 10 minutes, and risk me being banned by this Laanx kill you crap. So, I might try to mug someone else, challenge them, but I can't even get that far because Laanx kills me. For one thing, it makes for very bad roleplay when a God would interfere in common thievery. Gods are supposed to take care of...I don't know, world threats maybe? Something bigger than a mugging or a duel, honorable or not. DaveG not only completely pissed off the OOC duel spammers, but evil/criminal roleplayers as well. This needs fixed if we can even have a little realism here. The real world isn't all sunshine and butterflies, and neither should this be. There has to be some sort of evil or criminalism just to balance it out.
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Let's say, during a roleplay. I try to mug someone, challenge them to a duel, they decline and say "I don't want to participate" or something stupid like that. Well, they just ruined the roleplay I'm trying to make, made it impossible for me to try and attempt the roleplay again for another 10 minutes, and risk me being banned by this Laanx kill you crap.
UtM had the ideal selection that avoids your problem right away. You ask them in a tell if they would play along with the RP. Then you don't even waste a challenge if they decline because you haven't actually /challenged them.
It's a trap setup so they can easily kill you, and especially annoy Enkidukai, making them walk all the way back to Hydlaa.
While the system may be a bit off, and the timer needs work, I seriously doubt the whole thing is a conspiracy to let Laanx kill people like you. As UtM said, its easy to avoid for now in interests of RP, challenging someone for being annoying isn't really RP because the challenge system is sort of OOC. Its there for willing people to help with role playing so that PVP is possible when necessary but the system itself is OOC.
So for RolePlay it works fine though the timer needs fixed at least. For random challenges its got its issues which may need to be dealt with but I can't see why devs should make this an ulber super priority. Its an annoyance, they know of it now, and it will be dealt with soon(tm) ;)
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I don't randomly challenge, I used to as Kenti a long time ago, though. We were having duel practice in DR, and that's when my first challenge was declined because he wasn't ready when I challenged him. So then he challenged me, we dueled, all that. Well, I was done, so I left DR. Took me about 15-20 minutes to get back to Hydlaa. I stopped at the rogue and fought him a bit, then someone was being annoying and kept saying "give me money" "give me money" "give me money" so I got tired of it and challenged him. Well, it got declined, so Laanx decided to kill me, kick me, and take away 30 duel points. Not only is the timer screwed up, but the punishment is a little too extreme. It should only do these things to you if you challenge someone and they DECLINE you twice, not punish you simply when you challenge them again, because you don't know how they would respond, especially during duel practice in DR. Also, it should only be when you challenge that one person, not everyone, that gets especially annoying. And 10 minutes? Too long, should be about 5 at the most. 10 minutes makes it so once you get declined you wait for so long you have to challenge someone again to simply figure out how much time you have left.
someone annoyed you so you just challenged them without asking, then thats your own fault.
And I realized something, apperantly when checking your time from challenging someone, it adds yet another 10 minutes so that even though it says you have to wait about 3 more, it changes to 13, just to fool you. It's a trap setup so they can easily kill you, and especially annoy Enkidukai, making them walk all the way back to Hydlaa. Ever since DaveG got control of all these different systems, it's been hell trying to even use the duel system without risking being banned because it's glitched (or just DaveG trying to get us banned by extending the timer every time you challenge someone before the 10 minutes are up).
if you pay attention ot the ruels you wouldnt run into this problem, 'patience is a virtue' some people say. if you don't like the run from Akkaio, don;t be an Enki, if you refuse to chaneg race, get used to it, all races will have to run far soon enough. ever since DaveG got ahold of the duel system it's improved and prevents annoyances, it also punishes people who are persistant in such ways.
Now, like I said before, can we just have a timer? Please? It's impossible to even duel not knowing how much time you have left.
the current system works perfectly fine for RP and planned/asked events going on, no need ot change it.
Also, you have to consider something. My newest character is an Outlaw, thus means a lot of thievery, killing, etc.
Let's say, during a roleplay. I try to mug someone, challenge them to a duel, they decline and say "I don't want to participate" or something stupid like that. Well, they just ruined the roleplay I'm trying to make, made it impossible for me to try and attempt the roleplay again for another 10 minutes, and risk me being banned by this Laanx kill you crap. So, I might try to mug someone else, challenge them, but I can't even get that far because Laanx kills me. For one thing, it makes for very bad roleplay when a God would interfere in common thievery. Gods are supposed to take care of...I don't know, world threats maybe? Something bigger than a mugging or a duel, honorable or not. DaveG not only completely pissed off the OOC duel spammers, but evil/criminal roleplayers as well. This needs fixed if we can even have a little realism here. The real world isn't all sunshine and butterflies, and neither should this be. There has to be some sort of evil or criminalism just to balance it out.
this is why you ask first, saves so much time you'd be able to mug another 3 peopel in the mean time. DaveG had every right to 'piss off' the OOC duel spammers, they are not wanted here, as for the evil/criminal roleplayers, a decent one will let their target know of their plans and ask if its ok with them before hand, or had you not read abotu those 'godlike' evil 'rpers' killing people and escaping a lynch mob of goodies unscathed? >_>
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UtM had the ideal selection that avoids your problem right away. You ask them in a tell if they would play along with the RP.
Using tells like that is disruptive and distracting. I consider it to be rude. It's not an ideal solution. If you can't figure out whether or not to send a challenge to someone while staying in character, then something is wrong.
this is why you ask first, saves so much time you'd be able to mug another 3 peopel in the mean time. DaveG had every right to 'piss off' the OOC duel spammers, they are not wanted here, as for the evil/criminal roleplayers, a decent one will let their target know of their plans and ask if its ok with them before hand, or had you not read abotu those 'godlike' evil 'rpers' killing people and escaping a lynch mob of goodies unscathed? >_>
Oh please. OOC duel spammers are a myth that DaveG and Demarthl invented to pick on people they didn't like.:)
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NO. Using tells like that is disruptive and distracting. I consider it to be RUDE. It's not an ideal solution in the slightest.
a short while ago i was sitting on a roof top minding my own business, watching a family (the Frawd's I beleive) chat away, something about their chidlren sneaking out at night and such...
then this idiot elf guy comes running up, starst runnign circles around them, hopping up and down and spouting random jibberish, interrupting their RP.
i find that rude Shalmaneser.
a myth? theres proof just above you, where suno claimed that he did it as kenti renari, and i remember him doing so, as do i with you and a few others.
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I used to be a duel spammer, for the first few weeks that I played. Then I was told it was considered rude and I stopped. Even before that, I would never challenge the same person twice in a row if they declined the first challenge. Then, a year or so later, DaveG coded the anti-spam system into the game.
As far as running around, saying random things to people in character, I guess that's a matter of personal taste. It's a PLAZA, if you want privacy then get a room in the tavern! :lol:
What's really rude is characterizing a person as some sort of villain just because you have a personal grudge. Hiding behind alts isn't the most respectful way to communicate with people either. *wink*
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sigh, keep telling yourself that...
and no, running around and interupting other peopels RP just because you think you can do what you like is rude, and frustrating, maybe they dealt with it better then me, but to me it's still somethign you shouldnt do, far far worse then sending an ooc tell.
also, I see you finally caught on, congratulations, it isn't an alt, i'm not hiding behind it and I highly doubt I'm being disrespectful to anyone i communicate with, it's just you, with your personal grudge. as usual. but hey, it's always the complaints that have the louder voice.. maybe because they don't shut up :)
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sigh, keep telling yourself that...
and no, running around and interupting other peopels RP just because you think you can do what you like is rude, and frustrating, maybe they dealt with it better then me, but to me it's still somethign you shouldnt do, far far worse then sending an ooc tell.
also, I see you finally caught on, congratulations, it isn't an alt, i'm not hiding behind it and I highly doubt I'm being disrespectful to anyone i communicate with, it's just you, with your personal grudge. as usual. but hey, it's always the complaints that have the louder voice.. maybe because they don't shut up :)
"Interupting RP" does not apply. You are roleplaying a character within a certain world. You are in a city, surrounded by travellers, merchants, knights, people of all sorts and many colourful personas. Having encounters with strangers isn't just in character, but it's a necessary part of the game.
And I have no idea what it is that I've "caught on" to. I have no memory of talking to a "Kezzik" in game, or even seeing your character. I do know that you claim to be "someone else" though: http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25895.msg290540#msg290540 I do think that you were being less than entirely genuine in that exchange between you and Zorbels, I think you were trying to make some sort of point though I have no idea what. What exactly was it that you were trying to imply, and why didn't you just say it flat out?
As far as me having a personal grudge, I really don't know where that's coming from. Feel free to go into more detail by sending me a private message rather than making such childish comments in open view.
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Oh please. OOC duel spammers are a myth that DaveG and Demarthl invented to pick on people they didn't like.:)
What's really rude is characterizing a person as some sort of villain just because you have a personal grudge.
As far as running around, saying random things to people in character, I guess that's a matter of personal taste. It's a PLAZA, if you want privacy then get a room in the tavern! :lol:
I was there at the time Kezzik mentioned. I'm sorry, but unless your character has serious issues, I would not consider that to be a valid IC interruption. There's nothing wrong with people interrupting an rp in a public place as their character might, but I can see plenty wrong with acting as you did just to annoy them because they DARED to try and RP in an area with other people around.
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I was there at the time Kezzik mentioned. I'm sorry, but unless your character has serious issues, I would not consider that to be a valid IC interruption. There's nothing wrong with people interrupting an rp in a public place as their character might, but I can see plenty wrong with acting as you did just to annoy them because they DARED to try and RP in an area with other people around.
- "Serious issues" doesn't sound too far off the mark
- It wasn't just to annoy them
- I'd like to hear your definition of what it means to "RP"
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oh but it does apply, sure, there are strangers, and you get the occasional mental case that runs past screaming, but no one does what you did to those peopel in their RP, and you havent met Kezzik ingame, i was not part of that rp, i was on a roof above where they were standing, simply sitting there and listening, pay attention hmm?
I do claim I am someone who has been around here a long time, yes I am under a new alias, i was never ingenuine as to who i am ,i simply did not state -who- i am, but this isn't the place for this idle chit chat, you can shrug off whatever you like, i don't care for your excuses, i came in this thread to post about it's original topic, we trailed off too far.
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The syetm works fine for poeple who challange at worst one time a day. For poeple who arent the buggers, but rather the defenders.
When it comes about people who tell, defend yourself! and then challange, it is very problematic.
You just have to put yourself on their side to understand how annoying it can be.
I have myself never experienced the problem, but people with whom i as fighting did.
You know, i don't like to challange, i like being challanged. I don't like suprises when the person accepts when is near me, just to actvate the macro miliseconds after accepting the duel.
So i decline the random challange, and the person start ic explanations, so i tell that person to challange me again, but.... you already know what happens^^
Now tell me the system is beatifull. Ok, an ignorant will say that, but ask you to stop being ignorant and tink about others instead of you.
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How many times have I god damn said to stop picking out and quoting little sentences and saying crap that has nothing to do with the topic? It's getting on my nerves. Just quote the whole thread, it saves you some time and me some time trying to figure out which part of my post you're talking about without having to read over the entire thing again.
DaveG and Demarthl are gone, which makes easier, yet also harder, to get this fixed. Since they're gone, we don't have that dictator-ship feeling where they lay down rules and we have no say, yet also they were the only ones in control of this sort of things (or maybe others are but really don't care), so it's going to take longer to be compromised. Really right now it makes PvP impossible (player vs. player, NOT mass-dueling, don't even DARE pick out this sentence here and say a bunch of crap I don't even want to bother reading), and it's essential for guilds like the Outlaws.
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oh but it does apply, sure, there are strangers, and you get the occasional mental case that runs past screaming, but no one does what you did to those peopel in their RP, and you havent met Kezzik ingame, i was not part of that rp, i was on a roof above where they were standing, simply sitting there and listening, pay attention hmm?
Dude, I don't even know what it is that I supposedly "did" to "those" people. Why don't you send me a private message with the log of it to refreshen my memory?
I do claim I am someone who has been around here a long time, yes I am under a new alias, i was never ingenuine as to who i am ,i simply did not state -who- i am, but this isn't the place for this idle chit chat, you can shrug off whatever you like, i don't care for your excuses, i came in this thread to post about it's original topic, we trailed off too far.
You made vague statements, you belittled Zorbels, and you made claims without showing how you're an authority on such matters. I think that borders on trolling.
As far as the ontopic stuff, if you still disagree with me, then I doubt there's anything I can write that will change your mind. Again, feel free to send me private messages to fill in all the holes.
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The duel spam and 'mugging' rejection is there to stop idiots from trying to 'murder' and mug people in broad daylight and public view in front of Harn's, or any crowd. I refuse to accept any duel in public based on the fact that it would be considered an assault on my character, and therefore illegal. As soon as the fools learn how to roleplay the after affects of committing a crime in public, such as banishment, then they have something to complain about. As I see it, I am stopping the person from making a bad RP mistake, and will often give them advice on what they are doing wrong.
Find me alone in a dark sidestreet, and I am fair game.
99% of people are not capable of following through with an ‘evil’ character’s roleplay. They just want the fun, but refuse the consequences.
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Dude, I don't even know what it is that I supposedly "did" to "those" people. Why don't you send me a private message with the log of it to refreshen my memory?
ah, so clearly you were not IC, as otherwise you would remember being involved in part of an RP.
You made vague statements, you belittled Zorbels, and you made claims without showing how you're an authority on such matters. I think that borders on trolling.
mm, no, I don't think I did, I simply pointed out that just because a name is unfamiliar doesn't mean they are clueless to the works of the GM's, if i was to troll I'd do it blunty, like calling you a stuck up ass, that is trolling.
as for OT - I think Moon summed it up nicely there.
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The duel spam and 'mugging' rejection is there to stop idiots from trying to 'murder' and mug people in broad daylight and public view in front of Harn's, or any crowd. I refuse to accept any duel in public based on the fact that it would be considered an assault on my character, and therefore illegal. As soon as the fools learn how to roleplay the after affects of committing a crime in public, such as banishment, then they have something to complain about. As I see it, I am stopping the person from making a bad RP mistake, and will often give them advice on what they are doing wrong.
Find me alone in a dark sidestreet, and I am fair game.
99% of people are not capable of following through with an ‘evil’ character’s roleplay. They just want the fun, but refuse the consequences.
Actually, I mostly duel either outside the Hydlaa gates, the Jayose library section, or over there next to the steps leading up to the tavern (NOT RIGHT NEXT TO THE TAVERN. NO ONE QUOTE MY LITTLE SENTENCE HERE AND START GOING ON ABOUT POINTLESS CRAP ABOUT HOW I DIDN'T EXPLAIN SOMETHING CLEAR ENOUGH).
From now on I'm putting parenthesis next to almost every single sentence I think people will start quoting and going on and on about something stupid. I'm tired of people picking pieces and parts out of my thread and leaving out most of the details while going off topic. It takes enough time posting, but then I have someone picking pieces and parts out of one of the posts I've made, then I have to scroll up or go to another page to figure out which it's from, read it again to see what I said, then go all the way back and see what you're talking about. I've done it enough and I'm tired. Just quote my entire thread and stop with the little pieces and parts quote game. It's seriously getting on my nerves.
For example, Kezzik, you're doing it. And you persist to do it in every post you make, it's annoying. Just quote zanzibar's entire post and then type, it saves you and everyone else a lot of time and annoyance.
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The whole point is to only respond to the bits that are relevant and not have more quote than actual post content :/
I normally copy-paste the quote start with the link in it so that people can easily click back to the post.
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Actually, I mostly duel either outside the Hydlaa gates, the Jayose library section, or over there next to the steps leading up to the tavern (NOT RIGHT NEXT TO THE TAVERN. NO ONE QUOTE MY LITTLE SENTENCE HERE AND START GOING ON ABOUT POINTLESS CRAP ABOUT HOW I DIDN'T EXPLAIN SOMETHING CLEAR ENOUGH).
you still wouldn't have the problem if you actualyl asked the players.
From now on I'm putting parenthesis next to almost every single sentence I think people will start quoting and going on and on about something stupid. I'm tired of people picking pieces and parts out of my thread and leaving out most of the details while going off topic. It takes enough time posting, but then I have someone picking pieces and parts out of one of the posts I've made, then I have to scroll up or go to another page to figure out which it's from, read it again to see what I said, then go all the way back and see what you're talking about. I've done it enough and I'm tired. Just quote my entire thread and stop with the little pieces and parts quote game. It's seriously getting on my nerves.
peopel split up others posts when quoting to betetr direct what each comment is directed at, it's quoted just above their own comment so you cant lose track of what they mean.
For example, Kezzik, you're doing it. And you persist to do it in every post you make, it's annoying. Just quote zanzibar's entire post and then type, it saves you and everyone else a lot of time and annoyance.
I know I'm doing it, this is how I post, don't like it, don't read it, simple as. and i actually find posts easy to read when broken down if quoted.
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Well right now you're only doing it do go off-topic. Every person I see doing this sentence picking always trails off and goes off-topic. Just stop, it's not contributing anything.
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ach at the pot calling the kettle black, simply replying to posts i feel i can add my opinion to. I think everythings been covered on this topic anyway
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Why nobody is quoting me? ;P i kind of agree with most of Suno comments on topic, but while people constantly disagree with suno, as i see it, nobody disagres with me ;P
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They disagree with me because they're stubborn and never see others' points of view. It's just like how you might hate someone for looking at porn, but then love it once you start. Right now people disagree with everything I say, but once they actually see what I'm talking about, like how annoying the multiple quote thing is, or how duel points are important, they'll grow to accept the idea.
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Well, I for one do not see, nor ever will see how duel points are important. If you want to show how many people you have defeated, just put a belt in your description with notches on it. Or a club, like 'Gangs of New York'. Duel points, giving and taking, are completely out of character, and are there only to fluff the -player's- feathers, not your character. Your character should not even know they are there. If you wish to argue with that, first answer me who gave them to you in the first place.
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I wouldn't know people by name, maybe they would be a total stranger to me? The points themselves are really just a collection for me, I don't "give them away" or anything. Even if they have no use, they're still valuable to me, no matter what anyone says.
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Dude, I don't even know what it is that I supposedly "did" to "those" people. Why don't you send me a private message with the log of it to refreshen my memory?
ah, so clearly you were not IC, as otherwise you would remember being involved in part of an RP.
That's a really dumb thing to say. I'm expected to remember every single passing interaction I have with other characters? Now you're definately just trolling.
Kiirani showed me the log. Not only was I in character, but there was nothing wrong with what I said.
It's possible that you missed this thread (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25770.0). I suggest you study it.
You made vague statements, you belittled Zorbels, and you made claims without showing how you're an authority on such matters. I think that borders on trolling.
mm, no, I don't think I did, I simply pointed out that just because a name is unfamiliar doesn't mean they are clueless to the works of the GM's, if i was to troll I'd do it blunty, like calling you a stuck up ass, that is trolling.
It's nice that you don't think you trolled, but you made vague statements, you belittled Zorbels, and you made claims without showing how you're an authority on such matters. If you don't see such behaviour as trolling, then we simply have a difference of opinion.
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That's a really dumb thing to say. I'm expected to remember every single passing interaction I have with other characters? Now you're definately just trolling.
why wouldn't you? I can remember walking into the Laanx temple for the first time, the 60th time and the last time I -ever- did and greeted Lady agara, asking her how she was. just because someone has a difference of opinion to you or perhaps just disagrees with the way you see things and expresses that doesn't mean they are trolling. but who am I to talk abotu trolling eh? you're the expert on it
Kiirani showed me the log. Not only was I in character, but there was nothing wrong with what I said.
now that is a load of crap and you know it. I'm simply going to leave that statement at that.
It's possible that you missed this thread (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25770.0). I suggest you study it.
now you're just pointing things out and being silyl about it, you knwo too well that I've read that thread, but that opinion, even though we agree on it, doesn't give you the right to stroll up to someone enjoying al ittle RP, just off of the plaza and ruin it by spewing crap out of your mouth.
It's nice that you don't think you trolled, but you made vague statements, you belittled Zorbels, and you made claims without showing how you're an authority on such matters. If you don't see such behaviour as trolling, then we simply have a difference of opinion.
wait.. did I miss something? you already said that, and I quite clearly pointed out that I wasn't, sure if you want to go ask Zorbels do it, I doubt she would agree with you on it, but there is the possibility that she would, not that I would mind because that was not my intent on it. I simply showed my strong passion for the topic and felt I needed to point out certain things very much like you do with your own discussions.
now, how about we agree to disagree and both shut the hell up hm?
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This thread has become very hostile, and I am closing it due to several requests. Everyone's points and the wish itself is understood, so please take this as a time out from the discussion to cool your heads and leave the rest (like the final decision) to the dev team.