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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: acmer on October 20, 2006, 12:03:32 am
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We recently tried to organize a race from Hydlaa to Ojaveda. The winner would get 10.000 trias. It was a huge surprise when only one wanted to race!
After several attempts, we managed to get 3 racers, but I asked if anyone would race for 80.000 tria prize. Nobody.
So, where's the problem? Is it because everyone is so busy leveling their characters? Did I misspell the 80.000 tria prize? Nobody happened to look at the Main chat? There were too few players online?
I think it's the first one. People are so busy whacking easy targets for PP and trying to get their skills to heavens, they don't have time to do anything else. Some were chatting in the Main chat window, so people saw my announcement (which was also on auction). There were 169 players online at the moment.
If this is the direction this game is going, you could say it now, so peeps don't try to add fun to the game for nothing.
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I don't know about you, but half the time, I will ignore auctions ...especially if there are a few 'WERE I GET WEPONZ PLZZZZ!1!" or some hopeful fellow repeating his sales pitch over and over and over and over ...did you try a /shout?
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peopel dont want to enter competitions they dont have a chance in, especially if they're not an avid power leveller, fighting tournaments and races all boil down to the stats players have.
and not all 169 peopel pay attention to auction, it's probably the least used tab, next to help that is.
did you put up a thread here organising it and set a date and such? that helps
oh and if we get a good amount of people I'll enter the race, but if I win the prize goes to who I feel tried hardest, I dont need Tria _^
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Spontaneous events don't go over too well a lot of the time - and many people are unfortunately too wrapped up in their personal RP to stop and realize that something else of interest may be going on, and worth pursuing.
However, using the /auction channel for such an announcement seems odd - it's for auctioning off items, not announcing races :) You can shout, you can run around and rally people up.
But don't despair. The more events like this are put together, the more people will flock to them. So if you don't get the crowd you'd want once, twice, keep at it and your enthusiasm will catch on.
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And who would want to, anyway? I mean, even if I saw it, and even if it wasn't a blatant disregard of RP for Phinehas to take part in a race, I'd still ignore it...
Just saying consider the fact that few people are going to want to take part in an essentially boring concept, despite promises of grand rewards.
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If you have an event that you want to see in the game, the best idea is to go to someone like Proglin who's considered a "regular". I'm not saying it's the way things should be, but it's the way people here seem to tick.
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Holy I'd join in a split second! It would be fun to have a race. A nice perk to differ from the constant mining, killing, and levelling. X-/
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I dont need Tria _^
argh... Kii!!!
you stole my eye again >_>
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I dont need Tria _^
I envy you.
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I envy you.
if it's the tria i have you envy I can float you some.
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To some people, 80.000 might mean 80 trias and...0 cents. =/
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I envy you.
if it's the tria i have you envy I can float you some.
How much are we talking here?
Let's just say, being a wizard isn't particularly financially constructive in the game at the moment.
@Suno_Regin: To some people, 80,000 trias might sound like a hoax.
P.S. We should really start using the other forms of currency in our post. Tria's only the smallest, after all. We don't say 100,000 pennies in real life...
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Well, Phinehas, the only problem is that the currency system in PS is not base ten. People do not want to do extra math.
I second that (in America, at least) 80.000 tria means 80 tria and 0 thousandths of a tria. It also has five significant figures, so it would seem like you were measuring your tria scientifically. :P
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Well, Phinehas, the only problem is that the currency system in PS is not base ten. People do not want to do extra math.
I'm aware of that. I'm saying let's get off our lazy butts and spend the extra 12 seconds per post to do the math.
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No.
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No.
It wasn't a request. I said do it.
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I like being lazy.
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I don't see the word Tria being translated to the Penny.
More like Tria is just the standard word for the currency. Just like the dollar is. so 80,000 tria, to me, is the same as $80,000. It's just confusing I guess, since one of the currency denominations is the triangle. We don't go around say $25 as I have 1 one 10 dollar bill bill, plus three 5 dollar bills. We just say we have 25 dollars.
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How much are we talking here?
Let's just say, being a wizard isn't particularly financially constructive in the game at the moment.
4 circles per glyph from Levrus, an average of 2 hexa and 4 tria per session of theory (+1 pp too)
so tell me, are you looking into using all the ways of magic, or just some select ones, scorching mind.
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Steel coins would be pennys. Check the Settings, folks. :)
As for people ignoring 'events', yes, they do. People are often too caught up in their single person, or selective group RPs.
I give my 'un-common cold' RP/event/quest as an example. Many people know about it, but very few are actually taking part. This makes it hard on the other players, as the RP was designed to operate with a great number of people working together for a common goal.
That is the effect you get, though, when the game focuses so much on leveling, and nothing on story. Keep trying, and the players can solve this.
*goes back to ploting worldwide, all inclusive RP #2*
ps, a tria is not a dollar, she is one of my characters. ;)
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Back on-topic, Irri did hear the announcement and might have participated, but was busy with other things at the time. Much like ourselves in RL, our characters are often busy with their endeavors and are rarely free to drop everything on the spur of the moment :)
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To some people, 80.000 might mean 80 trias and...0 cents. =/
It's not a problem if you're familiar with the European system. It's just as valid as the American system, and since PS is an international community, we should be open to its use.
I give my 'un-common cold' RP/event/quest as an example. Many people know about it, but very few are actually taking part. This makes it hard on the other players, as the RP was designed to operate with a great number of people working together for a common goal.
That's less to do with people ignoring other RPs and it's more to do with people not reading the forums and descriptions. There are also aspects of the cold RP that a player might find objectionable and will therefore ignore. IE it's operating outside the game mechanics, OOC behaviour like hanging around harnquist just to sneeze on people, etc.
Back on-topic, Irri did hear the announcement and might have participated, but was busy with other things at the time. Much like ourselves in RL, our characters are often busy with their endeavors and are rarely free to drop everything on the spur of the moment :)
Not surprising. In addition to having people help you out, it's also an idea to give advance warning about such events and using the forum as a resource to do so.
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How much are we talking here?
Let's just say, being a wizard isn't particularly financially constructive in the game at the moment.
4 circles per glyph from Levrus, an average of 2 hexa and 4 tria per session of theory (+1 pp too)
so tell me, are you looking into using all the ways of magic, or just some select ones, scorching mind.
I actually have all those, I'm not penniless. Just annoyed by my lack of funding comparatively speaking. I can't exactly go out and do anything requiring a large amount of money...
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mkay ,that makes it simpler, what ways do you want to advance?
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I really think there should be a bulletin board in each city to quickly find some jobs, see the latest news and for players to announce their events/quests/whatever. I'll try posting a race announcement here on the forums, and we'll see what happens.
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I don't think most people would be particularly excited about a run either. Right now we all run at the same speed, not even variations across races. If we had a 'sprint skill' then i'm quite sure we'd have a lot of fun with races and things alike.
Something i'd love to see is mounts that can be trained and jockies ;)
Any event usually takes a lot of organisation and preparation to run successfully. As said earlier spur of the moment things don't work well, and any idea tends to start small. Do it with your friends and eventually the word will catch on.
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I don't think most people would be particularly excited about a run either. Right now we all run at the same speed, not even variations across races. If we had a 'sprint skill' then i'm quite sure we'd have a lot of fun with races and things alike.
Something i'd love to see is mounts that can be trained and jockies ;)
Any event usually takes a lot of organisation and preparation to run successfully. As said earlier spur of the moment things don't work well, and any idea tends to start small. Do it with your friends and eventually the word will catch on.
Except that not all roads to Akkaio are equal.
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I'm sorry but 10 tria or 80 tria is very low lol :woot:
But if you meant 10,000 tria, or 80,0000 tria then i get your point and there is a simple answer.
You weren't popular enough.
Simple and to the point.
If you were in a very big and well organized guild and you advertised 10k ojaveda race, you would have atleast 5 contestants.
The fact you had no contestants doesn't mean the players don't want to do it, but that not enough players heard it.
~~Datruth
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Back on-topic, Irri did hear the announcement and might have participated, but was busy with other things at the time. Much like ourselves in RL, our characters are often busy with their endeavors and are rarely free to drop everything on the spur of the moment :)
Same reason as Irri here...
Miaua was there too. And had the same PR reason why not to race. 80k trias would be useful for her, but there was more important things to do...
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Ahhh... this seems so familiar...
Our guild (Outlaws) did a competition in the form of a race from one end of the DR .. pretty much to the other.
And it didn't turn out too bad... not as good as we'd hoped.. but not as bad as we feared it could!!
(We had approx. 17 racers)
My advice on this would be...
#1) Get another guild or two sponsoring/supporting the event, even just as referees... because they'll help get the word out to the players they already have an in-game relationship with and a few established guild's names will help add credibility.
#2) Many regular players won't budge unless there's either a strong RP element to it... or there's a prize of at least 100k... so maybe upping the prize to the 100k mark might have helped.
#3) Have prizes for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place (I think we did 100k, 50k, 25k) - then people will feel as if there's more of a chance of them actually getting a prize.
#4) In-game, in-character... have your guild ask people if they would like to win some trias... spread the news about the race... bug people if need be (but do it in-character, in-game and keep a note of who you've asked already so you don't bug the same people twice!!!) - Make a list of all who express interest so you can /tell them more once you've got a list of people who'd be interested.
But, the above is all just opinion ... just from the experience we had with our DR race. ;)
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When did that happen?! -- I am afraid I am only able to attend on weekends... :( Believe me, I would have been there when I had heard of it!
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well i seen you advertising it. and actualy started to join it but i was crashing every 3 seconds so i dint have much of a chance. pluss loading takes me forever...sry
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Weekends are better for events, as was pointed out, but a run is not something that would be unpopular during the week.
No, what happened was that almost no one heard you.
The current incarnation of the chat window really is that bad.
A fix is available for those who compile their clients themselves, here (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=25965.0).
~Verrliit~