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Title: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Zeijn_Eroc on October 31, 2006, 01:20:08 am
Was planing to create a guild, aligned to the evil side, mainly to bring a bit of darkness into the happy days of common people. If someone is intrested or have complemnting ideas post here or contact me in game.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Karyuu on October 31, 2006, 01:46:37 am
What ideas do you have, to start with? Anything beyond "dark guild"?
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Zeijn_Eroc on October 31, 2006, 02:18:43 am
That's what i'm thinking of, something that would bring a lot of evil RP.. i have no real good ideas right now... But it will come soon.. Tomorrow maybe.. or untill someone starts giving me ideas then my brain probably would start ticking again
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Phinehas on October 31, 2006, 02:38:42 am
If that's all you have, I suggest joining an existing evil guild instead.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Zeijn_Eroc on October 31, 2006, 02:45:14 am
One of the worst ideas in a long time my friend :) I'll just keep it in mind untill i get a realy good idea, run through the History and browse the forum.. i know i will get a good idea soon enough!
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Phinehas on October 31, 2006, 02:46:53 am
Why is it a bad idea for you to join another evil guild? You obviously don't really have any direction, and you could probably learn some things.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Zeijn_Eroc on October 31, 2006, 02:54:20 am
I feel no need to join another guild, would feel verry bad to leave them, maybe if time shows i won't come up whit a good idea i might join the ranks of a guild that suits me
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Phinehas on October 31, 2006, 03:11:57 am
You'd feel bad to leave them? And  you want to be evil? What a laugh.

So if you feel no need to join a guild, why do you want to create one? Essentially what you're saying is you just want to lead a guild.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Zeijn_Eroc on October 31, 2006, 03:15:45 am
Yes you are sooooo right.. i wanna lead a guild..., something bad about it? and for feeling bad that would be OOC not IC...
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Phinehas on October 31, 2006, 03:19:15 am
You have to have a certain amount of OOC maturity to RP a good evil character. Not saying you're immature. Heck, I feel the same way you do.

And yes, there is something wrong with "just wanting to lead a guild". It means you're going about the whole thing for the wrong reasons. You just want power, so basically you're creating a guild out of selfishness.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Zeijn_Eroc on October 31, 2006, 03:24:42 am
No i'm creating a guild because i wan't something new! Something that haven't been done before! I wan't to create a guild that gives ammounts of RP oportunitys.. power ain't something i realy care about i'll leave that to Peacer... and when it comes to my maturity it is enough to run a guild... I at least woudn't pick on a guy trying to start a thread on a forum trying to gather some minds and post ideas about a new guild..
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Datruth on October 31, 2006, 03:39:25 am
I'm just curious, what is this thread about?

I'm guessing it's gathering ideas on creating a guild with the above points you mentioned.

But what exactly do you mean, i think you need to be more specific, which ideas?

All we have currently is the purpose of the guild.

I don't think i can branch out randomly and create the ranks, just based on the Purpose.

Why not try this, if you don't like it just ignore what i'm about to suggest:

1. Create a story of how your guild came into creation.

2. List the purpose.

3. List the name of the ranks and responsibilities.

4. List the possible names of the guild.



I mean right now all you wrote was the purpose, I have no clue what you want the rank names to be, how the story should go, and what to name it.

Also, creating a guild just to be it's leader, without a vision, is a waste of time in my opinion.

If you truly want to be a leader, find something you want done in Yliakum that isn't being catered to and create a guild that serves that purpose.

It's good your trying to get info on the forums though and it's a step forward, but now you need to take the initiative and fill in some blanks before a Guild can be created.

A base is what is needed right now, for the foundation to stand on, build the base and the forums will help with the structure.

Good luck with the Guild  :)

~~Datruth
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Zeijn_Eroc on October 31, 2006, 03:48:46 am
Ok, no need to worry about me anymore then.. found a few players to create it whit so we are discusing it right now... I'll post it all as soon as we have it all figured out and it is created...
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Datruth on October 31, 2006, 04:01:27 am
Ok, no need to worry about me anymore then.. found a few players to create it whit so we are discusing it right now... I'll post it all as soon as we have it all figured out and it is created...

Great :D

Hope it all goes over smoothly and i can't wait till i see the results.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: zanzibar on October 31, 2006, 07:15:00 am
It's nice that you want to do something evil that hasn't been done before, but unless you have an real idea of how to accomplish this, my advice is to not bother starting a new guild as it will fail.

Join a pre-existing guild.  They will help you execute whatever ideas you eventually come up with.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Datruth on October 31, 2006, 08:15:14 am
It's nice that you want to do something evil that hasn't been done before, but unless you have an real idea of how to accomplish this, my advice is to not bother starting a new guild as it will fail.

Join a pre-existing guild.  They will help you execute whatever ideas you eventually come up with.

the problem with pre existing guilds though is it's just a bit of the same old same old.

Sometimes people just want to break out of the cookie cutter image. Go reckless lol ;D
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: zanzibar on October 31, 2006, 08:45:19 am
It's nice that you want to do something evil that hasn't been done before, but unless you have an real idea of how to accomplish this, my advice is to not bother starting a new guild as it will fail.

Join a pre-existing guild.  They will help you execute whatever ideas you eventually come up with.

the problem with pre existing guilds though is it's just a bit of the same old same old.

Sometimes people just want to break out of the cookie cutter image. Go reckless lol ;D


I disagree.  There isn't really a cookie cutter for the guilds, and many of them are doing new and interesting things.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Datruth on October 31, 2006, 08:57:49 am
Well since you've been playing more i'd defer to your opinion.

I've seen a handfull of guilds and to me it's all same old same old.

But again you've had the privelage to see more than i have so i guess i need to keep a look out on a few more.

By the way zan, what do you think of elemental light? :D  Heard of us?
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Annah on October 31, 2006, 01:01:48 pm
Some people are just not born to lead. You can bake cookies though.

:love:
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Zeijn_Eroc on November 01, 2006, 01:34:36 am
After hours of planing we have a ruff idea of the first six months whit the guild anyway.. I'm sure there are at least a few of us that are born to lead, and hwo likes cookies anyway? ;)
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Nurahk on November 01, 2006, 01:49:15 am
Atleast the name isn't bad.

If your guild ends up being another noob guild I'ma smack you :P
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Phinehas on November 01, 2006, 02:36:42 am
Heck, I'll smack you anyway.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Robinmagus on November 01, 2006, 04:15:11 am
And I'll smack Phinehas  \\o//


Unless that's crossing some line of mortal-god contact. Then I'll just leave him alone.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Phinehas on November 01, 2006, 05:11:18 am
It is. Begone, lesser being.

So, any plans on telling us what it is that you've come up with as far as ideas?
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: zanzibar on November 01, 2006, 05:12:30 am
It is. Begone, lesser being.

So, any plans on telling us what it is that you've come up with as far as ideas?


This is a good question to answer, not because you have to prove yourself to Phinehas, but because it would help attract members to your guild.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Zeijn_Eroc on November 02, 2006, 01:12:13 am
I will make a new thread about the guild as soon as it all have been set up and finished

To answer the BIG question:
No this won't be a noob guild, only recruiting RPing people and people that realy are willing to learn RP
And darkest wish will not be the name of the guild we came up whit a better idea  8)

And i hope the Semi-god Phinehas won't smack me whit that flat hand of fury  ::)
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Phinehas on November 02, 2006, 01:36:50 am
I only slap the worthy. You I will merely prod with my cane.

For the rest, I have my doubts, but I'm sick of everyone screaming at me every time I post, so I'm not going to say anything.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Annah on November 02, 2006, 10:43:43 am
And i hope the Semi-god Phinehas won't smack me whit that flat hand of fury  ::)

He's actually a god. Like me, so uhm... run!

:innocent:
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Garile on November 02, 2006, 12:34:08 pm
/me pokes Phinehas and then Annah and giggles

Nope, no respect for the elderly here. ;)

But ontopic. Feel the idea of an RP evil guild isn't new nor is it nonexistant atm. Guild like the Outlaws were definately created with RP in mind. The Dark Empire I think is also very RP active. This would leave the story o be different, but that you don't seem to have, so will see what comes but so far it sounds like any newbguild that says it's evil so please suprise me by not being one.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: zanzibar on November 02, 2006, 06:07:24 pm
/me pokes Phinehas and then Annah and giggles

Nope, no respect for the elderly here. ;)

But ontopic. Feel the idea of an RP evil guild isn't new nor is it nonexistant atm. Guild like the Outlaws were definately created with RP in mind. The Dark Empire I think is also very RP active. This would leave the story o be different, but that you don't seem to have, so will see what comes but so far it sounds like any newbguild that says it's evil so please suprise me by not being one.


It's possible to RP evil in many different ways and I don't think that the Outlaws or the Dark Empire cover all of those ways.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Garile on November 03, 2006, 11:57:23 am
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It's possible to RP evil in many different ways and I don't think that the Outlaws or the Dark Empire cover all of those ways.

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This would leave the story to be different, but that you don't seem to have

I don't believe I ever suggested that they did :P
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Zeijn_Eroc on November 04, 2006, 02:37:40 pm
The big idea is mainly to not be evil in the same way as any other.. not chaotic like The thieves and the Outlaws and not do anything like the Dark Empire eighter.. It's not going to be a newb guild i promise that to everybody! Tough it's still a mather of time untill we will reveal opurselves in public :)
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Annah on November 04, 2006, 03:49:22 pm
We all want to rule the world kiddo, good or evil, we just want to rule the same old world. We want power, we want fame. Uhh. Don't you have that "deja'vu" feeling?

:innocent:
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Zeijn_Eroc on November 04, 2006, 04:23:11 pm
Don't realy wan't to rule the world.., Or everybody want's too but it's nothing i go around thinking about, Much more fun to do other things then trying to take over the world..
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Sangwa on November 07, 2006, 10:18:23 pm
Hey Garile, don't put us in with the evil guilds. We're not evil. We're simply amazing.

Zeijin: First off I'll start by saying, you're not aligned to evil. No one is. You can be seen as evil, you can be called evil, you can think you are evil, you may want to be evil. But you're definetly not aligned to evil, as there is no such thing as an "evil alignment" or an "organization of evil" or "the evil side." Not on PS.
Read my guild creation guide that is linked on the current stickied guild creation guide. It should provide some guide lines as to how you should go into making your guild something with essence.
I'll ask you one more thing: Whatever you do, don't put "dark" or "darkness" in your guild name. We've got "Eye of Darkness", "Disciples of Darkness", "Dark Shadows", "Dark Sisters", "Dark Humbajunkamawhatever." So please. Be original. Those who think I'm being "hypocrit" as I own an organization called the Dark Empire: may you know that we were original when we chose the name. Because at that time no one had dark in their names. So there.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: zanzibar on November 07, 2006, 10:42:39 pm
We all want to rule the world kiddo, good or evil, we just want to rule the same old world. We want power, we want fame. Uhh. Don't you have that "deja'vu" feeling?

:innocent:


Not all evil guilds are about power and fame.  I've been involved with a number of "evil" guilds that have different goals.  One was based on the pursuit of personal imrpovement and perfection.  Another was based on destroying the world, in a way.  Another was set up just to cause as much chaos as possible.  Most of them didn't really care about fame, while many of the individuals were even trying to avoid fame alltogether.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: Annah on November 08, 2006, 03:21:20 pm
Read between the lines zanzibar. It was an irony though.
Title: Re: [Guild Idea] Darkest Wish
Post by: mychael_lawrence on January 10, 2007, 12:40:14 am
what about this guild of yours?what is your characters name and mine is Myulor desert