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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: zanzibar on November 08, 2006, 05:47:57 am

Title: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: zanzibar on November 08, 2006, 05:47:57 am
I'm dead certain that all posts on the forum, except for certain ones made in the Roleplaying forum, are considered to be out of character.  I'm having a discussion with someone right now though who's claiming that when he makes his posts, he makes them as his character, (and therefore others shouldn't be bothered if he says something that's a bit off).  I know, personally, I see the forums as entirely out of character and I treat all posts as if they are being made by a real person.  Are there many people out there who disagree with me?

This seems obvious to me but I thought I'd make a thread about it to drive the point home.
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Nurahk on November 08, 2006, 05:51:01 am
With the few exceptions, yes, Forums are OOC.

Bar the In-game roleplay thread, everything is OOC unless stated otherwise.
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Phinehas on November 08, 2006, 06:16:05 am
Zanzibar, you might as well just tell them it's me we're discussing. Not like I'm going to care.
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: bilbous on November 08, 2006, 06:39:57 am
Ah yes, nothing like taking a private conversation public eh?

As far as I am concerned I am bilbous and bilbous is me. In-game or out only the reality I have to deal with is different. bilbous the characters reality is far different than bilbous the poster's, of course. Of course then there is me the person completely unrelated to PS. Certainly when posting on the internet I modify my mannerisms, character if you will, to suit the place where my post will appear. Here I don't use expletives that need deleting as I would in a more ephemeral setting. Therefor I have identified three character frames of reference and there are a few more below. Which is me? They all are.

As far as I am concerned I am Alts Name Here and Alts Name Here is me. In-game or out (well in game only really) only the reality I have to deal with is different.

Oh and I have a sock puppet that has never posted on the forums and will never be a character, that is me too.
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Nikodemus on November 08, 2006, 06:57:39 am
For me it is only importand to keep in mind whats OOC, IC and difference beatwen them, when posting about in-game ideas and understanding of this whats happening there.
If someone post as character from game, I don't care at all, it doesn't change much.
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: bilbous on November 08, 2006, 07:07:50 am
Can we get a ruling from the judges here please:
Is [IC | OOC] [in | out]  of [Character | Context]?
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: zanzibar on November 08, 2006, 07:22:53 am
By "In Character", I mean acting and reacting to things as if you were the character you play with in the game.  By out of character, I mean more or less behaving like a real person - likely the person you are, but I guess there are allowances for "context" and medium.
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Kalika on November 08, 2006, 08:42:23 am
hm....i tend to react as both my character and myself...

im not a very good rper in the fact that i completely made my character different me, we both share a lot of the same characteristics and so i tend to do the same things with my char that i would do in real life..shes sort of like a sister or favorite pet

but Kalika also happens to be much more patient than i am, and in the forums i try and excersize that.. like if someone really pisses me i try not to be rude back, though i ahve slipped quite a few times

i guess my point is that i try and take both my real self and my virtual self qualities for the forums, responding depending on the context and nature of the question

Kalika shrugs and feels like she just was babbling
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: zorbels on November 08, 2006, 09:20:58 am
I am both, but I will put ------> [IC] <--- beside something I am writing in character, this way it causes no confusion.
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Peacer on November 08, 2006, 09:37:31 am
Depends... although If i were posting IC i would clarify

@kalika: not rubbish :>
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: bilbous on November 08, 2006, 03:09:20 pm
As far as character goes, I really don't see how we can be other than ourselves. It may be that in playing a character we exaggerate one or more aspects of our personality but very few people can play something completely alien to themselves.
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Garile on November 08, 2006, 03:26:19 pm
IC or OOC.

hmm well obviously IC on the forums would be a different IC then what it would mean in the game.

Thinking about it my posts are normally OOC mostly, but I do react like how my character would sometimes. Useally to put a bit of humor in a post I guess. Also becuase these forums are an extention of PS and about PS it's hard to not act like your character at all at times. Someone who isn't affected at all is probably not really roleplaying. ;)

So guess the answer is that the character and the real person mix a little and think that is the case with a lot of people who post here knowing people know them for their character ingame.
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Sangwa on November 08, 2006, 03:46:24 pm
I treat the forums as OOC. However I sometimes spice it up with semi-IC bits. I add the semi because Sangwa wouldn't speak OOC (since he's the character.)

Anyway, when I do so I usually paint it in a visible way, as these are actions or words pertaining to Sangwa's behaviour and usually targeted to people who would understand them.

I would have to disagree with Garile though. Some of my posts aren't affected by my character at all. This one, and those where I am trying to discuss something of an OOC nature, like alginment systems on PS, most guild discussion posts, etc.
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Idoru on November 08, 2006, 04:25:59 pm
id love to see someone post in the Bugs area with a fully IC post  ;)
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Kiirani on November 08, 2006, 04:51:10 pm
I think the forums are somewhere in between :/ Not much that happens here is canon, but I wouldn't be surprised to find people acting more like their characters than themselves where it is(n't in)appropriate.. IC personality with OOC knowledge, perhaps?
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Kiraki on November 08, 2006, 05:40:21 pm

I think I mix a bit of both sometimes when I post even though most of it is OOC. :P

Personally I do not really care if the person posts IC or OOC.  As long as they give a valid opinion or make a valid point does it really matter which one it comes from?
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Kalika on November 08, 2006, 08:28:28 pm
id love to see someone post in the Bugs area with a fully IC post  ;)

oh...thats too perfect tee he ehee :D :D i wanna see it now
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Hadfael on November 08, 2006, 08:32:54 pm
In Character < In Game < In Settings
Most of the time I would say that forums, guild websites are not ingame, therefore not IC.
But they are useful to provide a post office, common board, guild house, ...
When used this way, you can consider those forums/sites as external places that your character can access. But you can't assume that every other char visited the same places than you. I mean that it is not because something is posted here that every char has to know it.
This forums (Hydlaa.com) can be called "Townhall public board" from ingame, as a place your character can access to read others IC messages or post his own ones.
If you have a guild forums, call it a Guild-House, headquarter, ... and they have an IC meaning. Your char can decide to visit them or not.
It works well when considered as a writing boards or external places, but less if you consider them as places where you can roleplay other interactions with areas that are ingame. A discussion in the townhall (a thread) takes place in the townhall only and not at the plaza.
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Monketh on November 08, 2006, 08:48:03 pm
With the exception of specific circumstances, all posts are OOC.  The characters do not have access to the forums...
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Janner on November 08, 2006, 09:00:31 pm
 :thumbup: Juat thought I would post this, a randum thing.

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Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: hitancrias on November 09, 2006, 02:23:19 pm
That text is outdated and doesn't really apply anymore. If you ask me.

My posts (except in the roleplay forum) are all OOC, unless stated otherwise. I interpret post by others the same way, unless it's obvious by the content that someone is responding IC. I imagine the Guilds forum gives the most confusion about what's IC and what is OOC. I'd say keep it OOC and if you want to "spice things up" with IC remarks, use [IC]tags.

As far as I am concerned I am Alts Name Here and Alts Name Here is me. In-game or out (well in game only really) only the reality I have to deal with is different.

I think this goes for many and for to a great extend for me as well, I have to admit. Because I think a stronger separation between IC and OOC would be desirable to get a more colourful in game world. The people who regard the difference between IC and OOC to be just a matter of setting, are, more or less, "roleplaying" themselves. Problems arise when you expect others to do that as well. Those people will always have problems with people who roleplay a char anything different than the usual goody two shoes.
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Sangwa on November 09, 2006, 03:21:02 pm
It would be quite sad to have to tag my posts each time I wanted to use references from Sangwa and such.

As far as one knows OOC and IC don't connect in the same way the forums and ingame actions don't usually conenct (unless where explicitly saying so) I think we're free to mingle a bit of our character's personality in some of the less argumentative posts. Everything as long as there is no insults or damaging remarks.

In some posts where I only post for sympathy on the topic, I can be seen adding some information or expression from Sangwa's experience. Why not? Nothing depends of it, nothing results of it.

For example: When I post in my Promotional Thread, I can be seen posting with some insight characteristic of Sangwa. Sangwa doesn't post on the guild forums, I do. That should be quite obvious.
Still, the Dark Empire is Sangwa's and mine organization so in the posts where I'm merely providing information or stating some change that happened, I will not make it look dull. I'll make some remark about how glorious the Empire is, and that's speaking for both of us without creating any confusion to the other players.
I think it'd be less entertaining, at least for me, to separate the text into two parts: OOC and IC, as it would make it look boring.

Quote
A new member has joined the Empire. The character's name is Parallo and the player behind it is a music composer that will be providing us some nice tunes.

[IC]Be welcomed into the Empire Parallo![/IC]

versus

Quote
The Empire grows mightier each passing day. Parallo has joined our cause and his artistic skill will surely be an asset to us imperialists.

Hail the Empire.

I prefer the second one. And if Parallo, Garile and Eolas are questioning why we've stopped making these posts... Well. I don't really know. But if you want it too bad, I'll make one for each of you :P.
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: hitancrias on November 09, 2006, 04:54:12 pm
Agreed, second thing looks way better. ;) In the less argumentative threads, there's no reason to be so strict with those tags. I was more referring to threads that can more easily dissolve into flames. If a guild makes a promotional thread and people dislike or disagree with aspects of the guild, it can be nescessary to make clear if you're IC or not. For example a reply in the line of: "your guild has no chance to survive" can mean something totally different IC then it does OOC.
Title: Re: When posting on the forums, are we IC or OOC?
Post by: Parallo on November 09, 2006, 04:59:48 pm
They're both great.
I am humbled.  :-[