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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: zanzibar on November 16, 2006, 02:01:23 am
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http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/38293/PS3_Fans_Quit_Jobs_to_Wait_in_Line
I just don't get it.
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This would probably be a bad time for me to start a thread on how I cant wait for PS3 right? :sweatdrop:
(JK)
I mean it would be fun to have as I have a PS2 and play it when I have people coming over (comp isnt 2 player sadly) but man these guys put the Uber in Uber Geeks...
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I guess I'm not in a position to really understand. I've never owned a gaming station. I grew up playing on a Commodore 64. The games I've played most recently are games from the late 80's and early 90's which I've taken from abandonware sites and have had to use doxbox to run. My roommates are into this stuff though so I've been introduced to games like final fantasy and grand theft auto, but it's not what I grew up with.
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I gots a snes. I'm not one into consoles. I'll just upgrade my compy from time to time.
Oh and what's worse, quitting your job to wait for one or shelling out over a million to buy one over auction?
http://www.luperry.com/stuff/million_dollar_ps3
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I saw PS3 campers outside Fry's today. I didn't even know what they were there for till I asked one of the store employees. It's tempting to walk by and shout something like "PC's rule!", then run for my life.
I've never been impressed by consoles.
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I gots a snes. I'm not one into consoles. I'll just upgrade my compy from time to time.
Oh and what's worse, quitting your job to wait for one or shelling out over a million to buy one over auction?
http://www.luperry.com/stuff/million_dollar_ps3
I love how people have the money to spend millions on a game consol, yet western politicians drag their heels kicking and screaming whenever they're asked to raise the minimum wage.
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I love my gaming console. I'm just not a gamer and pure FPS aren't my thing.
Still, I'll be getting one. When I'll be getting one is another matter.
A few years should be long enough.
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I haven't had a console for soooo long...since that Nintendo family thingy. Good times. I'm a Elder Scrolls freak, and strongly beleive that it's played better on agood PC. So, yayyyy PC's.
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I haven't had a console for soooo long...since that Nintendo family thingy. Good times. I'm a Elder Scrolls freak, and strongly beleive that it's played better on agood PC. So, yayyyy PC's.
I have yet to find a game that isn't played better on a PC. In my opinion the ONLY thing that consoles have over PCs is the ability to have multiple players playing the same game, on the same machine, in relative comfort.
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I am considering buying a console sometime in the future. First and perhaps best reason, No crappy Windows Guess it won't be an xbox ;) Second reason is I won't need to keep upgrading my computer just to play games.
Hey. Guess what? it ain't gonna be a Sony either. Don't want their drm crumbware. Guess I'll go Wiiiwiiwiiwiiwiiiiiiii all the way home. Unless it takes long enough to get around to it that they have something else.
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I haven't upgraded my computer since I bought it three and a half years ago. It depends on the games you play.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5utCdITPdU
:love:
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Second reason is I won't need to keep upgrading my computer just to play games.
That's actually flawed reasoning. They come out with new consoles in the same way they come out with upgrades for computers. If you want to play old games, you can do that on the computer just as well as on a console. It does take some of the annoyance away when you "can't" upgrade your console, though.
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Second reason is I won't need to keep upgrading my computer just to play games.
That's actually flawed reasoning. They come out with new consoles in the same way they come out with upgrades for computers. If you want to play old games, you can do that on the computer just as well as on a console. It does take some of the annoyance away when you "can't" upgrade your console, though.
I don't really agree. Because the consoles are stand-alone units they tend to have new versions less often. There is no upgrade there is just a new version. The games that are released for these are "dumbed down" for the capabilities of the platform as far are hardware requirements go. If you are into the bleeding edge of pc gaming you need to upgrade your parts pretty much every year just to stay even. Even if you are buying last years tech every year you will still spend about as much as it costs to buy a console.
I have had my current PC configuration for about a year and it was year old tech at the time. I went into a store this summer and was looking at games and the salesman told me I likely could not run any of the games that just came out. With a console you know that they will be putting out new games until sometime after the new version comes out and typically there is 5+ year cycles.
Besides it is more relaxing to sit on the couch in front of the tv tham hunched over a keyboard in front of the computer. O--)
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I will be laughing when all of the first units are recalled because of some fault, or they need to upgrade some part due to some unforeseen problem. Never ever buy a first run product. Wait six months at least. Better yet, wait until the next system comes out, and get two of the old one along with tons of good games, and hook them together on the 52inch Hidef in the living room, and the 100inch screen in the theater room (surround sound in both, of course, but still need to install shakers). :)
The one thing the PS3 has over the other systems is it plays Bluray, and is the cheapest player on the market by $300 at last count. In this age of multi-tasking electronics, a system that can't stand as the center of your entertainment system needs to go back to the drawing board. It also has gyros in the controler like the Wii.
And what is with the Wii's lame 'wand'. Billions of dollars at their fingertips, and an ugly, remote-shaped...thing with a tail is all they can come up with? Come on. Put the sensor in a smaller package that snaps into any other type of controller you could imagine. I have seen better looking cheap universal remotes.
The 360.…hmmm. Haven’t been hearing much about it. That can’t be a good sign for them. ;)
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ugly wand?
sir i should stab you in the eyes!
bah some people.... they see something thats not what there used to as its all like "ZOMG I R THE NOT USIN THIS FING I R LIKIN GRAPHICS"
the damn things built so its a whole new way to play games, where hand movements do as much as sometimes more then pressing a button.
BAH i want to rip off walls with my metroid whip now :<
also UTM> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rie_SP-16rw
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ohh ohh! counterpoint! I call it! :D
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/11/13
I'm equal opportunity though so: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2006/11/17
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and the charity shop I worked at, when we get retro machines we sell them quite cheaply and people buy them :).
We has a Grandstand 5000 (pong machine) - boxed, sell for £7.
Sega Master System - boxed, sell for £7
Super Nintendo - boxed, sell for £8
Sega Mega Drive - boxed sell for £8
Real Market value for these is about x2.5 the price we sold it for.
so there is still high demand for old consoles, and no need to buy the latest and greatest.
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He's right, consoles are cheaper than PC's. Substantially so. They're also not (yet) vulnerable to infection, etc.
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He's right, consoles are cheaper than PC's. Substantially so. They're also not (yet) vulnerable to infection, etc.
My PC isn't vulnerable to infection because it has ME at the controls.
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He's right, consoles are cheaper than PC's. Substantially so. They're also not (yet) vulnerable to infection, etc.
My PC isn't vulnerable to infection because it has ME at the controls.
I hope you don't mean Windows ME *shudders* :p
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He's right, consoles are cheaper than PC's. Substantially so. They're also not (yet) vulnerable to infection, etc.
My PC isn't vulnerable to infection because it has ME at the controls.
I hope you don't mean Windows ME *shudders* :p
XP, actually. I meant that I'm in control of my computer and because of it I've never had a problem with infections because I know what I'm doing.
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I understand. I've only had a few, a while ago, to deal with. My point here is that consoles do not suffer some of the complexity issues (especially basic system requirements) that PCs do in the area of games. You just boot it up and play.
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I understand. I've only had a few, a while ago, to deal with. My point here is that consoles do not suffer some of the complexity issues (especially basic system requirements) that PCs do in the area of games. You just boot it up and play.
Like I said, I grew up with a Commodore 64 and I continue to use Dos to this day for certain things. Complexity doesn't bother me much.
I'm part of the minority though.
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This is just sick (http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/video/10339676/index.html)
That is incredibly disappointing to me. I can't believe people can act like that over a material object.
Walmart claims to want to provide their customer with great product in a safe and secure shopping enviroment.
(1) Why have people race for the game console? Like the brother said, a raffel would have been much more sensible.
(2) Who approved this "race" thinking that it would be safe? Surely you would be able to foresee people getting overly pushy to be one of the first to get their hands on the PS3.
(3) With such a huge company how could this poor planning go un-noticed? I mean more than one person must had to approve the promotion, so how in the heck could such settings of dangerous conditions bypass these people?
This was supposed to be a fun promotion of the PS3. It isn't all Walmarts fault though, even though poor planning helped the maddness. People are supposed to be some what civilized right? Right?
/me watches the video again
Ok maybe not. Which brings me to why I feel the way I do. It is disappointing to see fellow man act with such ignorance and stupidity. All for something that will provide entertainment only for so long before it becomes out dated and boring. Oh and let's not forget the steep price you are going to have to pay to own this baby. Also walking out into a parking lot with a PS3 could get you shoot because people want it so bad. [Another news story I saw about PS3] Yep, look at me rushing out the door to go buy one! HA! Ya, right. I have better things to do with my time and money.
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1. Don't blame Walmart. Blame the people for being so incredibly stupid. It was their choice to run. Are you telling me that they're incapable of independant thought? Should the law not expect people to think for themselves?
2. Individual Walmarts are managed by local managers, not by the CEOs. They're a chain.
3. Wait a year and they'll only be $300. Wait a bit longer and they'll be 1/6th of that.
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1. Don't blame Walmart. Blame the people for being so incredibly stupid. It was their choice to run. Are you telling me that they're incapable of independant thought? Should the law not expect people to think for themselves?
I blame both, as they are both responsible. Walmart could have prevented these accidents, as well as the people. There is fault on both sides no matter what way you debate it. People would not have run if the promotion wasn't there in the first place.
2. Individual Walmarts are managed by local managers, not by the CEOs. They're a chain.
Exactly a chain. They still all follow the same guide lines, rules and manuals. So when head office sends them an annoucement saying "Hey employee's we are going to have a promotional race for PS3's" they have no choice but to follow those instructions because even the head managers only manage, they don't own any rights to the store or the way it runs. They are told how to run it and are expected to follow those guide lines. Someone had to approve it before it was sent from head office. Most likely many people had too.
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Zanzibar, if you know a stupid person is about to hurt him/herself, and it's partially his/her fault, do you take no effort to prevent it?
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Zorbels, I think Zanzibar's saying that it was probably the local manager's idea to do the promotion, not the head of the chain's.
Also, what did you expect? People are people, and as such are essentially bad.
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Zanzibar, if you know a stupid person is about to hurt him/herself, and it's partially his/her fault, do you take no effort to prevent it?
That's not the question. The question is of liability.
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Artificial scarcity has been a staple of big business ever since the beginning of business. You can command a much higher price and increase demand for an item if you play up the "elite" aspect of ownership. Quantities are not limited these days because they could not run off a couple hundred million more units before they start selling, they are limited to create a buzz and to keep prices high. The merchants go along with it because all those foolish people who have succumbed to this nonsense have the opportunity to buy x,y, and z other products while they are on-line and those who line up only to be disappointed will be loathe to come away completely empty-handed.
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Zorbels, I think Zanzibar's saying that it was probably the local manager's idea to do the promotion, not the head of the chain's.
Also, what did you expect? People are people, and as such are essentially bad.
That's just splitting hairs and not the point. It didn't matter who approved it, I just wondered how it was not foreseen what would, could and did happen.
What did I expect? Oh I don't know maybe some humanity. Or maybe for people to learn from the 1990's and the tickle me elmo craze when people were trampled trying to be the first to own one. Tickle Me Elmo Link (http://www.finpipe.com/elmo.htm)
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What did I expect? Oh I don't know maybe some humanity.
That's what you got. People are actually fairly depraved. It's sad, but true. Also, almost no one learns from other peoples' mistakes.
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I like to call it the "That'll never happen to me complex".
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJp4hiMy4d8
<3
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http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/11/17/ap3186399.html
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5 people yesterday sold the ps3 for over a thousand dollars on ebay..... enough said
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My last gaming console was the Atari 2600. Have been avid computer user after that and I don't really understand the point of consoles anymore... other than you can play while sitting on your living room couch... but even then, FPS games that require a mouse really suck on consoles.
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I've always had a thang for consoles because you don't need "Minimum Requirements".
IDK. Computers are fun and all but I always have to spend more money to play current game.
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Where as on a computer, a newer game can be played on an older system with tweaking to the game to turn down the graphics level and other settings to get it to work smoothly. It will run fine, just won't be as pretty. With a console, when a new one is released, you have to upgrade if you want to play any new game. Unless theyare making frontwards compatible consoles now.
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Well it won't be too long until you will require a 64 bit processor to run any new programs at all. Less than 5 years for Windows machines I'd say.
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neko, have you ever tried to run a new game on an old machine? Sometimes it doesn't matter how much you turn the graphics down, it just is not fun. I can't run anything newer than 2003.
$300-500 every five years, or $1,200+ every other year?
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bah just play retro DOS games :D, you'll need a DOS emulator tough :)
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IDK. Computers are fun and all but I always have to spend more money to play current game.
PS is free. ;)
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Built my system in 2002. Last major update I did was to the video card, a 100$ investment, last year. Newest game I bought would have been civ 4. (actually, is was C&C: the first decade, but since thats just all the old c&c games remade to run on xp, I don't count that as a newer game) I seem to run unreal 2k4, swat 4, or gal civ 2 just fine as well. Plays those flawlessly on thier normal settings.
As reference point:
P4, 2.4 ghz (not dual core, not 64 bit, just plain old p4)
1 gig ram
running XP
ATI Radeon X1300 series vid card
Granted, I don't know how old your system is. But mine, as its approaching 5 years old now, still runs new games just fine.
Monetary wise, I guess I've invested probably $1500 usd in it over its lifespan so far. But things like the 22 inch monitor, dual plextor dvd burner, multiple hard drives set up in a raid 5 architechture, high end Audigy Soundblaster sound card with 7.1 speaker system, etc, do tend to up the price as compared to a console, which has no need for any of that stuff.
I'm not saying that consoles aren't nice. I was simply giving counter point to Loto's comments. :)
Edit: now if I tried to run PS on my pentium pro machine built back in '95, then yeah, no matter how much tweaking is done, it still wouldn't run it. But like wise, a SNES ain't anywhere near powerful enough to run a Wii game, even if the game did fit into the SNES cartridge slot.
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I have never had $1,500 to sink into a rig. My current build is $400-ish, before monitor.
Could you run Oblivion?
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I have never had $1,500 to sink into a rig. My current build is $400-ish, before monitor.
Could you run Oblivion?
Same here but by picking my parts, for 500 bucks I can play Oblivion :)
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Play it with graphics and speed high enough so it would be fun?
Out of curiosity and envy, where do you buy your parts?
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What are the PC system requirements for Oblivion? I have posted them below. :)
Recommended:
3 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
1 GB System RAM
ATI X800 series, NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series, or higher video card
Minimum System Requirements:
Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows XP 64-bit
512MB System RAM
2 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
128MB Direct3D compatible video card
and DirectX 9.0 compatible driver;
8x DVD-ROM drive
4.6 GB free hard disk space
DirectX 9.0c (included)
DirectX 8.1 compatible sound card
Keyboard, Mouse
Supported Video Card Chipsets:
ATI X1900 series
ATI X1800 series
ATI X1600 series
ATI X1300 series
ATI X850 series
ATI x800 series
ATI x700 series
ATI x600 series
ATI Radeon 9800 series
ATI Radeon 9700 series
ATI Radeon 9600 series
ATI Radeon 9500 series
NVIDIA GeForce 7800 series
NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series
NVIDIA GeForce 6600 series
NVIDIA GeForce 6200 series
NVIDIA GeForce FX series
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Play it with graphics and speed high enough so it would be fun?
Out of curiosity and envy, where do you buy your parts?
There are many good online stores with great prices on hardware. But there is always a one man shop with great prices in every town.
I ussually make it a rule never to buy first generation anything, 3rd and 4th are always more stable not to mention a lot cheaper.
I start by finding a MoBo I like, watch for a sale and grab it, then CPU the same way. It took me a year and a half to build the one I have now, it is far from state of the art, but there is little I cannot do.