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Gameplay => Guilds Forum => Topic started by: Kiva on February 25, 2003, 05:06:30 pm

Title: The White Order (Anti-Black Order guild)
Post by: Kiva on February 25, 2003, 05:06:30 pm
I don\'t like the black order anymore, so now I\'ve set up my mission : To destroy them. This is neither a good, nor a bad guild, and it\'ll be around until Black Order is officially closed, and all members have left (maybe longer).

Yann, Annah, Vold.. Sorry, but I don\'t like the guild anymore.

Now, anyone up for joining?

(ICQ : 144837397 - IRC (http://irc://planeshift.ath.cx/planeshift) - MSN : darkspring5@hotmail.com )

Talk to me there...
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Post by: Kiern on February 25, 2003, 05:36:28 pm
uh....hasn\'t this happend before?
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Post by: Kiva on February 25, 2003, 05:46:57 pm
Naw, last time i just left.. :P
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Post by: Link on February 25, 2003, 05:59:09 pm
OOhhhhhHhhHH If I get to do away with Annah I will join your guild! It would be my 6th guild to join but I\'m a loyal fan. (And a royal one)
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Post by: Princess Aelya on February 25, 2003, 09:10:29 pm
how treacherous of you grono...you should be ashamed :P If you do not like your guild simply leave it...BUt leaving them organizing a group against it? Shame shame! ;(
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Post by: cmhitman on February 25, 2003, 11:53:39 pm
*is scared*

looks at thread titled:\"White order\"
theres something unsettling about a guild with the name of white order...I just dont know.

I know its just some freaky coincidence but many of my older family members have had run ins with members of the \"white order\".

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Post by: TheGeneral on February 26, 2003, 02:26:41 am
Oh, here we go again. :O
Is this another freak out, which will simply fade away after a week or so. Last time you got back into the game, and the guild/organization you made was fogotten.
I wish people would just pick something and stick with it. But....never the less, I wish you luck, as I would to anyone brave enough to start a guild of any sort.
May the \"white\" way be with you...
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Post by: Kiern on February 26, 2003, 02:54:00 am
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Originally posted by TheGeneral
I wish people would just pick something and stick with it.


Exactly!  That\'s probably the smartest thing i\'ve ever read on this forum!  Although that is probably easily acheived...
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Post by: Keldorn on February 26, 2003, 09:05:38 am
white is the opposite of black, right? So in logic you would be the opposite of the black order. So you would have to be a good guild, since you are the opposite of black (evil).
I think you are sending out the wrong message cy calling yourself white.
Maybe it should be \"the not so black order guild\"
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Post by: Xolon on February 26, 2003, 09:41:23 am
People should start to understand that, although the guild is called the Black Order. It isn\'t a evil guild!!!!

It\'s a neutral guild and players with a good alignment can also join.

Why do you guys always condemn the Black Order, just because it has the colour \'Black\'in its name?

-Xolon-
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Post by: Keldorn on February 26, 2003, 09:44:50 am
White = Good
Grey = Neutral
Black = Evil
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Post by: Kiva on February 26, 2003, 01:08:23 pm
Gandalf the Gray is neutral? i\'ve always thought he was good... Anywho, black order IS evil, xolon. Try understanding that... :rolleyes:

And keldorn, maybe the white order is a good guild, i dont know. But still. I dindn\'t say it was bad either....
I\'m confusing myself here...  ?(
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Post by: Xolon on February 26, 2003, 02:05:51 pm
lol how can you say what a guild is, when your not a member?

we all know its neutral, why? it both has evil, neutral and good members and its history is neutral. Your just one of those people blinded by the fact that black stands for evil...

-Xolon-
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Post by: Keldorn on February 26, 2003, 02:16:53 pm
come on, \"the black order\" doesn\'t sound all that neutral to me. Maybe it is, but you should have chosen a different name then. When someone sees that name and doesn\'t know anything else about it he thinks \"hmm, must be an evil guild\". It\'s psychological.
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Post by: Xolon on February 26, 2003, 02:33:35 pm
In the \'old\' days the Black Order was 60% evil, the name was ok in those days. But nowadays we are all more neutral, im even neutral good.

You can\'t suddenly change the name of a guild, it would mean a \'new\' guild, but you can add it to the guild history (still being written).

-Xolon-
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Post by: Kiva on February 26, 2003, 04:46:00 pm
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Originally posted by Xolon
lol how can you say what a guild is, when your not a member?


Xolon, i doubt you alone changed the guild status from bad to neutral during yesterday. Don\'t be dumb, when it doesn\'t suit you (leave it to Link). :D
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Post by: Xolon on February 26, 2003, 04:55:31 pm
Edit: nvm...

replying will only result in useless flamming looking at grono\'s answer.
So if some1 wants to know what we really are, visit our forum or irc channel ;) we will answer you there...
 
-Xolon-
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Post by: Golbez on February 26, 2003, 09:25:39 pm
I am amused when I see people using the \"Black\" and \"White\" colours as a symbol of good and evil. Sure, it has been used many times (Star Wars, for example, with the Light and Dark side of the Force). But I do not see why everybody sticks with it.

The power of darkness is not necessarily evil. A mage proficient in \'black magic\' (that associated to destruction) could use his \'black powers\' for a good purpose.

It is not the appearance or the nature of the skills one has what align us to either good or evil, but the actions. It does not matter if you are a Paladin in shining white armor, if you mercilessly kill every citizen you encounter you are evil. Or you can be the meanest looking Necromancer, but if you use your skills to aid a village which is being attacked by monsters and do not expect anything in return, you may be conisdered either good or neutral.

That is how I see it, anyway. I just do not like the White=Good and Black=Evil deal at all.
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Post by: Xolon on February 26, 2003, 10:23:34 pm
ty golbez for explaining it, I couldn\'t find the right words ;)

-Xolon-
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Post by: Voldengrath on February 28, 2003, 12:52:34 am
Ahh, the clan in jeopardy. I am not sure if I can update sites, or be a successful and RELIABLE since my parents are always on me for something, and I get grounded from the PC.

But, I am here for the Black Order. Until the very last day of the Black Order, I will be here. True, I am evil, but it doesnt mean the whole clan is because of the word black in it. Xolon, Yann and I and a few other good men will do fine without Grono I suppose. I guess this is a bitter goodbye. I dont know.
Title: here we go again ...
Post by: Annah on March 01, 2003, 09:18:11 pm
Grono ... I think you should stop ... is becoming annoying. I still don\'t understand why you left us, again. And with that guild ... who will join a guild that is made only for destroying another one? (Link for sure if it\'s about me .. \\o/ ..). And Xolon is right > WE ARE A NEUTRAL GUILD .. and you knew that! I really don\'t uderstand why you people associatte black with evil ... I am really sorry for what happened (still don\'t understand) but I must tell you something: we aren\'t a little guild, and we have very powerful allies ... what you must know for sure ... my queen of the Black Order. I think this is all ...

Stefan \"Annah\" Antonio - Planeshift Public Relations Leader
Black Order High Council - http://www.planeshift.it
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Post by: Voldengrath on March 01, 2003, 09:29:29 pm
Nicely said Annah!
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Post by: Pheonix on March 05, 2003, 12:16:50 pm
One of the reasons people may assume you are evil is your list of allies. You dont get much more evil than Aelya and Alucard.
(no offense....although that will probably seem complimentary)

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Post by: TheGeneral on March 06, 2003, 03:39:17 am
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Originally posted by Pheonix
One of the reasons people may assume you are evil is your list of allies. You dont get much more evil than Aelya and Alucard.
(no offense....although that will probably seem complimentary)




That village and those kids burned themselves, Hellsing nor I had little to do with the \"freaky acsident.\"  :)
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Post by: Voldengrath on March 06, 2003, 03:41:40 am
I havent had a good laugh in a long time Alucard, thanks, that was absolutely hilarious.
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Post by: Princess Aelya on March 06, 2003, 12:58:53 pm
ah yea. And I had nothing to do with all the brutally murdere4d bodies piled up in the yliakum landfill...those trash, err people probably decided thats where they wanted to die.
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Post by: White Dust on March 07, 2003, 07:21:00 pm
My opinion is that good nor evil exists...

When a so called \'\'good\'\' character kills another character (in the name of good or some trash like that) is that kill then a good deed...
killing is never a good deed...

If a so called \'\'evil\'\' character helps a fallen comrade, is that aid then a \'\'good\'\' deed...

If Gronomist whants the \'\'distruction\'\' of the Black Order then she must have a grudge against them... Becouse he didn\'t say why he whants the distruction i think it is some kind of jealousy...
So it is a guild build on a foundation of jealousy, a guild like that doesn\'t have a long life...



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Post by: Kiva on March 08, 2003, 01:03:54 pm
Dust, first of all, you need to update your vocabulary. It\'s \"She\", not \"He\". Besides, I have Link in the guild, so it will never fall! ... Right, Link? ... Link!?!?
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Post by: White Dust on March 08, 2003, 09:27:51 pm
Sorry... im not keeping an eye of the sex of other planeshift players...

Awell... eventuality all guilds fall... nothing is forever... every thing will meet distruction in the end...

Only one thing will remain... death...
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Post by: Princess Aelya on March 09, 2003, 08:00:54 pm
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Originally posted by White Dust
Awell... eventuality all guilds fall... nothing is forever... every thing will meet distruction in the end...

Only one thing will remain... death...


oh your a comforting one you are :P
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Post by: Keldorn on March 09, 2003, 09:32:27 pm
Ah, but it\'s so true
\"do you realize that everyone you know will someday die?\"
that\'s a phrase from a song.

So death is always the ultimate victor.
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Post by: TheGeneral on March 09, 2003, 10:29:48 pm
And yet we all struggle.
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Post by: Princess Aelya on March 10, 2003, 12:10:19 am
yea its pointless...lets all go crawl in a corner,curl up and die! lol jk
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Post by: White Dust on March 10, 2003, 05:19:02 pm
No, my dear princess... We are given life to live, we should enjoy our lifes (virtual or not)... but there is only one certainty in ones life, only one thing that makes alle humans alike, no king, no president, no emperor, no mear peasants will avoid the final touch of death...

In the end, it doesn\'t realy mather
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Post by: Princess Aelya on March 10, 2003, 05:51:23 pm
yes. well said. Best to wreck havoc while i still can. :evil:
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Post by: TheGeneral on March 10, 2003, 09:24:40 pm
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Originally posted by White Dust
No, my dear princess... We are given life to live, we should enjoy our lifes (virtual or not)... but there is only one certainty in ones life, only one thing that makes alle humans alike, no king, no president, no emperor, no mear peasants will avoid the final touch of death...

In the end, it doesn\'t realy mather



Sorry if I come of rude in the next couple of sentences, but who are you to argue that we are given life to live.
We are \"trapped\" in this body, and I mean trapped to the full extent of the word. Born to only be allowed to use 10% of our brain AT MOST. Given this body that is pron to decease, viruses, infections and pests. We destroy more then we make good, humanity has not done anything good to this planet. We sit and watch as others f*** with things that will take 10-50 years for the rest of the world to unf***. And then we sit here, philosophising(trust me, it\'s a word) about it.(I know, I am doing the same, but meh, it\'s a parable, as long as I am aware of it.) Looking at this logically, someone does not want us to your our brains and our bodies to the full capacity so we don\'t screw ourselves even more.
And there are plenty of certain things. For one, all forms of energy will eventually be converted into heat, and eveything will cease to exist. All matter will be turned into dust as well, and eventually the poles will switch and we will all either mutate beyond recognition or die. (now, don\'t you want a pair of wings, or razor sharp claws, or maybe fur) LOL, yeah, that\'s life alright.

P.S. sorry.
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Post by: White Dust on March 15, 2003, 10:05:11 am
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philosophi rules ;)

But people see them self as something more than the mere animals of the planet, something higher... the bigest foult there is...
The human race is just another animal on the planet, just another creature trying to survive.
Evolution has given the human race some form of thought, some form of comunication, but in the end evolution can take that gift of life back, how many creatures have died without the help of us humans...
Mother earth gives life... but can also take that life back...

?h... but where getting way off-topic :P
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Post by: Kinoss on March 15, 2003, 12:27:06 pm
I have suddenly been enlightend!! A great vision of angels came upon me and they all said \"Things that have a \'point\' may seem \'point\'less.\"


Now I\'m really confused ?( does that mean gronomist has no real point... probably! whats more dangerous? a two-eged sword with no point or a fancy french sword with just one point (sorry i cant remeber the name of the french sword)


GAH! now im really confused, probably a side effect of not sleeping... ?(  ?(