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Title: Christmas shopping
Post by: Idoru on November 25, 2006, 02:08:46 pm
So, when do you start Christmas shopping, Some people are insane and start in january, while some are equally insane and start on 23rd of December. I try to shun Christmas altogether because im a scrooge and just figure that every Christmas so far has been an anti-climax so why should the next be different.

Well anyway, what are your views on Christmas in general?

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Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: hitancrias on November 25, 2006, 08:18:59 pm
I don't do Christmas shopping at all. My family and I don't celebrate Christmas that way. It's just family dinner and church.

What we do celebrate is "Sinterklaas" which is the Dutch/Belgium version of Santa. It's with presents and songs and sweets and it's celebrated at december 5th. That's why a lot of people here, especially the ones with young children, don't celebrate Christmas with presents.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: seperot on November 25, 2006, 08:19:32 pm
Its Corporate and Christian....


In other words i'd be more happy if we got rid of the "holiday" all together and we just spend a little more on eachother during the course of the year and actually go see family members because we want to not because were forced to because its the season.

Same for Valentines day, Easter, Turkey Day and any other holiday
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Xordan on November 25, 2006, 08:52:55 pm
The day that Santa was born :333 Presents \o/ Food \o/

I start it... in December whenever I remember. Last year I started on the 20th or something xD

For me, it's a good excuse to have fun :)
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Idoru on November 25, 2006, 09:36:59 pm
Corporate, Christian, those are some of my main issues with it. glad you said the Christian thing lol

I will admit that it is a good excuse to get drunk and have some time off work/school/college.

I would prefer that we didnt 'have to' do the things that people do at christmas, 'season of good will to all men' wouldnt it be much better if we didnt reserve good will for a couple of days a year?

 hitancrias, what do you call the festival on the 5th of December?
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Proglin on November 25, 2006, 09:41:47 pm
Sinterklaas rules! Especially his Pieten, Pepernote and kruidnoten are great hits.

And we celebrate christmas as well.

And the ramadam,

and 3 kings.

and....

and...

And ofcourse the 2 years and 1 month anniversary of me goldfish! got 10 people coming over!
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Phinehas on November 25, 2006, 10:45:54 pm
I celebrate Christmas for what it truly is, the celebration of the birth of the Son of God on Earth. However, I am the first to admit that certain traditions have snuck in to make it something completely different than what it should be. On the other hand, rather than whine and complain, I embrace it as an enjoyable excuse to spend time with family and friends and enjoy an exchanging of gifts. I do not, however, restrict "goodwill to men" to this single season, however.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: zanzibar on November 25, 2006, 11:05:51 pm
I celebrate Christmas for what it truly is, the celebration of the birth of the Son of God on Earth.


ummmm

"No one knows what day Jesus Christ was born on. From the biblical description, most historians believe that his birth probably occurred in September, approximately six months after Passover. One thing they agree on is that it is very unlikely that Jesus was born in December, since the bible records shepherds tending their sheep in the fields on that night. This is quite unlikely to have happened during a cold Judean winter. So why do we celebrate Christ’s birthday as Christmas, on December the 25th?

The answer lies in the pagan origins of Christmas. In ancient Babylon, the feast of the Son of Isis (Goddess of Nature) was celebrated on December 25. Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast. "

http://de.essortment.com/christmaspagan_rece.htm  (one I just picked at random)


http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=christmas+pagan&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Phinehas on November 25, 2006, 11:09:54 pm
Indeed. I'm well aware of that. However, December is as good a time as any to celebrate Christ's birth, in my opinion. And yes, I understand that it was originally a pagan feast. As I remember Constantine was the one who united the celebrations, however that is the true meaning of the celebration now, at least in my mind, and therefore that is what I celebrate. There are endless ways of arguing my point of view, but if you disagree, you have a right, and I don't really give a crap what you think I should do on Christmas.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: miadon on November 26, 2006, 12:22:12 am
I have mixed feelings about christmas, can be very corporate but can be very giving. It can be just about some fat guy who wears a red outfit (thanks to coca-cola) or it can be about what christians believe, remembering the birth of the "messiah". I tend to think on it as a chance to see whats happened in the past year and try and help more, altough that can lead to me feeling abit hopeless as theres only a certain ammount I can do.

Oh and if you want to have a slightly greener christmas, why not buy this: http://www.carbonneutral.com/shop/details.asp?productid=1052&productname=Greener%20Christmas%20Box

:) I hope at least a couple of you take my suggestion on that, and if you do please tell me. :)

Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Idoru on November 26, 2006, 01:00:30 am
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Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast.

Now that is the true spirit of Christmas..... that and vodka  ;D
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Gharan on November 26, 2006, 01:05:46 am
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Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast.

I agree, If you can't remember it you probably had a good time.  ;D
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: chazarus on November 26, 2006, 01:07:34 am
i had a good time last night .... i guess i don't remember :devil:
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: zanzibar on November 26, 2006, 02:59:30 am
Indeed. I'm well aware of that. However, December is as good a time as any to celebrate Christ's birth, in my opinion. And yes, I understand that it was originally a pagan feast. As I remember Constantine was the one who united the celebrations, however that is the true meaning of the celebration now, at least in my mind, and therefore that is what I celebrate. There are endless ways of arguing my point of view, but if you disagree, you have a right, and I don't really give a crap what you think I should do on Christmas.



You said that the true meaning of Christmas is X.  However, to me, Christmas means Y.  And there are many other letters in the alphabet.  I even gave links to articles that back me up.

Not everyone on this forum comes from the same religious background.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: zorbels on November 26, 2006, 03:08:32 am
Quote from: Phinehas
However, December is as good a time as any to celebrate Christ's birth, in my opinion.

Amen to that. One of the reasons I celebrate christmas. The other reason is I have a little girl and take joy in her excitment when christmas comes. It is an excuse to spoil her. I am one of the insane ones though and shop in december. Yay to insanity.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: bilbous on November 26, 2006, 03:17:36 am
Merppy Chruanzauka!  ???
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Kalika on November 26, 2006, 06:17:26 am
So, when do you start Christmas shopping, Some people are insane and start in january, while some are equally insane and start on 23rd of December. I try to shun Christmas altogether because im a scrooge and just figure that every Christmas so far has been an anti-climax so why should the next be different.

Well anyway, what are your views on Christmas in general?

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g199/im_idoru/santa2.gif)

 :flowers: :flowers:
well i jsut got done from a 2 day shopping trip type thing with my sister. we bought her daughter lots of cute and pretty things. :D

i like the idea of presents but it makes me sad seeing ao much money spent at one time, like its wasteful or something cuase...ooo im gonna start rambling ehehe

i also wish it wasnt so religious, but meh, it doesnt hurt anyone so im oks with it . Ooo and i like christmas trees, they sure are pretties with and without the decorations :D
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: LARAGORN on November 26, 2006, 06:54:40 am
I have a tradition that I have done since I got my driving licence, whether i am alone or with family, at least twice a week I drive around looking at all the decorations people have put up. To me it synbolizes the largest demonstration of peace and good will the world over. Regardless of the varrying beliefs of this holiday, it seems the general attitude is much more positive. I do know people of non christian religions who put up lights soley for the beauty of them. I do agree with others that it seems senceless to only be good to your fellow man only during the Xmass holidays, I do try to follow that year round, and I will take what I can get out of the rest of the world.

As for my family traditions, we usualy spend Xmass eve with my family (all 200 of them), then Xmass day is spent at home with the misses and our kids :), then on to boxing day with my inlaws. It can be a little hectic at times but it is worth it.

Shopping ?  well, I do keep an eye out year round for the misses, tomorrow I am going to test drive her present :)  I am prety sure she is going to like it. I do however usualy end up rushing at the last minute for one or two presents.

Happy Holidays to all of the PS world :)
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Malfini on November 26, 2006, 07:09:57 am
I celebrate Christmas for what it truly is, the celebration of the birth of the Son of God on Earth.

I also celebrate Christmas as a celebration of the birth of the Son of God and messiah Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: eldoth_terevan on November 26, 2006, 08:29:12 am
The gift thing to me at Christmas tends to be a bit much. I mean, I don't want my friends or family to feel that they need to shell out cash to give me something. Christmas (for whatever reasons we celebrate it) is about enjoying being with friends and family. That being said, I usually pick up small gifts for people all year long. I try to go for lower-cost, hard to find things that I know someone will like... and I try to discourage anyone from giving anything to me. I dunno, just some random Christmas shopping thoughts...
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Malfini on November 26, 2006, 08:32:08 am
Yeah, I think that gift giving for Christmas is kinda stressful and can cause someone to feel guilty if someone gets them something and they don't get them anything or if someone gets them something more expensive...
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: bilbous on November 26, 2006, 08:42:55 am
There are really two kinds of Christmas, at least in North America. There is the secular christmas with Santa Claus, etc., that the capitalists have forced on everyone regardless of belief. It doesn't have to be participated in but it is imposible to escape. Then there is the religious Christmas which happens mostly in a church and which should not really offend anyone unless it is shoved in the unwillings face. I don't particularly care what any of you believe that is between you and your conscience. Just don't try to tell me what to believe (nobody is doing that here, I think).
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: eldoth_terevan on November 26, 2006, 08:56:08 am
Christmas has become way overdone in the US, though. Seriously, I used to live in an apartment on the main street in a burb of Chicago that pumped Christmas music onto the streets 14 hours a day. I could not escape it. I heard it all the time. THAT was offensive....
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Karyuu on November 26, 2006, 09:43:03 am
I have cleaned this thread up some - please avoid arguing about this. Christmas is celebrated by various people for various reasons, and the only types of religious posts that are not welcome in this forum are debates and arguments between different faiths. We don't moderate this board to eliminate all references to religion, so don't worry if someone brings it up casually. Needless to say, talking about Christmas and expecting a completely secular thread is rather unrealistic.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Kiirani on November 26, 2006, 10:22:23 am
Personally I'd rather not have to do any christmas shopping.. I'm happy to get people things if I know they want them, but I fail at picking presents, and would prefer to treat myself to something I otherwise wouldn't get because it's too frivolous and/or costly, and do celebrations with family and friends for the actual holiday. I also don't want anything given to me ^_^ apart from maybe a good meal.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Idoru on November 26, 2006, 11:51:09 am
I dont buy presents for people at all, I really dont like the idea of exchanging gifts like that. I do have one particular friend who insists on buying me a gift each year, and that just makes me feel crap. I warn him every year that I wont get him one and he still gets me one. Its nice but makes me feel terrible, which he always  claims is the opposite of his intention  :-\

I think it is far too comercialised, and a time for pointless competition, around here people compete with christmas lights covering their houses, normally starting in early November.

The one thing I do like is the food...... thats another question. What do you traditionally eat at Christmas?


[thank you for the cleaning up Karyuu  :flowers:]
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Thyme on November 26, 2006, 04:35:30 pm
I do have one particular friend who insists on buying me a gift each year, and that just makes me feel crap. I warn him every year that I wont get him one and he still gets me one. Its nice but makes me feel terrible, which he always  claims is the opposite of his intention  :-\

You could always do something that costs very little but that you made yourself... like making him a mix-CD.

The one thing I do like is the food...... thats another question. What do you traditionally eat at Christmas?

I'm not much of a fan of celebrating religious holidays, but I really love my family's tradition of cooking a huge lebanese feast. When I was little, my grandmother would always host it, and her and my mother would spend the week before preparing food and ordering special treats from the bakery.  Since my grandmother passed away, I've kept up with this tradition and usually do most of the cooking with some help from my family, and we've opened it up to inviting other friends and relatives over.  My mom really likes turkey dinners, but I'm not such a big fan, so for me, having a lebanese dinner is what I enjoy the most.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Monketh on November 26, 2006, 06:41:42 pm
I celebrate the captialist Christmas because, hey, I want to give and receive gifts.  Nothing beats the look on someone's face when you picked (or made) the perfect gift.  (In general, the emotional or pragamatic value of a gift is the most important.)  If you can't give a thoughtful gift, should you be giving a gift?

Christian Christmas, well, I'm pretty much an agnostic deist, so I go through the motions.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: zorbels on November 26, 2006, 06:44:33 pm
To me it synbolizes the largest demonstration of peace and good will the world over.

To me as well. We have this street in Edmonton called Candy Cane Lane. The whole street every year puts on a show and they decorate their houses to the fullest. I believe it started in the earily 1970's and has been going strong ever since. Most of the owners of these homes pick a theme and begin putting up their lights in the middle of november. The power company donates the funds to the home owners bills for the month of December so that all who live on the street can participate. It is a tradition that I hope will continue for generations to come. I posted some picture's below.  

(http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/3170/candycanetu5.jpg)   (http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3929/candycanlane2vy9.jpg)

(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/2874/cclanedisney03smwebto2.jpg)
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Nurahk on November 26, 2006, 07:50:46 pm
Christmas is a time to celebrate the god of alcohol, turkey, egg nog and an assortment of illegal substances.

I'm sure there is some other odd reason to it...but ... come on.... ^^^Just look at that reason :D

I like christmas but my favourite day is remembrance day,  remembering is something we don't do enough.


December 25th, the Good (http://www.history.com/tdih.do?action=tdihArticleCategory&id=24), the Bad (http://www.history.com/tdih.do?action=tdihArticleCategory&id=3878), and the ugly (http://www.history.com/tdih.do?action=tdihArticleCategory&id=1229).

Note: May not want to read the ugly one :\

As for shopping, we do something new every year.  Usualy only one present each and then trade until you get what you want :P

So I  don't do shopping until December atleast.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: ThomPhoenix on November 26, 2006, 09:58:42 pm
Proglin is right, Sinterklaas is the best!  ;D

Actually, Dutch immigrants took the celebration of Sinterklaas to the US and in time the name was changed into "Santa Claus". From the US Santa Claus then moved back to The Netherlands. So Santa visits us twice a year here.

/endlesson ;)
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: miadon on November 26, 2006, 10:15:04 pm
why does father christmas give rich people more presents than poor people? :(


Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: zanzibar on November 26, 2006, 10:34:07 pm
I celebrate Christmas with a secular interpretation, and I do not observe it in a way forced on to me by the capitalist system.  I see it as a reminder and celebration of the value of love and peace, but I don't consider myself Christian.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: hitancrias on November 26, 2006, 11:15:47 pm
hitancrias, what do you call the festival on the 5th of December?


At december 5th we celebrate the 'feast of Sinterklaas.' Sinterklaas has the same roots as Santa Claus, hence the similarities in their names.

This explanation (ripped from this site (http://www.thehollandring.com/sinterklaas.shtml)) covers it very well:

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The Feast of Sinterklaas, or St. Nicholas, is an annual event which has been uniquely Dutch and Flemish for centuries. St. Nicholas' Feast Day, December 6th, is observed in most Roman Catholic countries primarily as a feast for small children. But it is only in the Low Countries - especially in the Netherlands - that the eve of his feast day (December 5th) is celebrated nationwide by young and old, christian and non-christian, and without any religious overtones.
Although Sinterklaas is always portrayed in the vestments of the bishop he once was, his status as a canonized saint has had little to do with the way the Dutch think of him. Rather, he is a kind of benevolent old man, whose feast day is observed by exchanging gifts and making good-natured fun of each other. It so happens that the legend of St. Nicholas is based on historical fact. He did actually exist. He lived from 271 A.D. to December 6th, 342 or 343. His 4th century tomb in the town of Myra, near the city of Anatolia in present-day Turkey, has even been dug up by archaeologists.

How it is celebrated depends very much of the presence of young children. Young children believe in "Sinterklaas" in the same way as children in other countries believe in Santa. A few weeks before December 5th, Sinterklaas arrives by a steampowerd ship which is said to come from Spain. (Just like Santa is said to come from the North Pole.) The arrival of Sinterklaas is of course very important for the kids. When they go to sleep they can put their shoes near the front door, and if they are lucky Sinterklaas or one of his helpers called Zwarte Pieten (Black Peters) has misteriously managed to get a little present in. A requirement to receive a gift is to put a carrot in the shoe, as a little present for the horse of Sinterklaas, on which he rides on the roofs of the houses. Kids are only allowed to place one shoe near the front door. Some smart kids try to trick Sinterklaas by placing two (different ones) though. Needless this usually doesn't work, as Sinterklaas isn't one to be fooled easily. Of course Sinterklaas lacks time and funding to visit every house every night, but on december 5th, he makes sure presents for the whole family arrive.

In families without young children or among friends surprise objects and special Sinterklaas-poems are popular. A few weeks before december 5th, everybody writes his name on a paper, folds it and randomly takes one of the papers. Everyone has to make a surprise object and a poem for the person whose name is on the paper. The object and the poem are meant to make 'good natured fun' of each other, usually by ridiculizing one of the persons habits or hobbies. (Of course people are usually meaner if they draw a close friend or relative than if they draw their mother in law). The surprise object contains a present. A good Dutch tradition is also to set fixed upper and lower boundaries of the money that has to be spent on the presents on beforehand, because we're all scrooges down here.

Here you see Sinterklaas and one of his "Black Peters".  (http://www.redwierenga.com/images/sinterklaas/photos/P1010535.JPG)

Sinterklaas has to face quite some competition from Santa, especially in less creative families, but so far he seems to be able to handle it.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Helm on November 26, 2006, 11:45:03 pm
I come from a country with a strong Catholic background, and from a religious family. For me Christmas celebrates the birth of Christ. It is a big occasion to put the whole family together and have a nice dinner on the 24th and a loooooooooong lunch on the 25th. It is the holiday that celebrates family, mostly the only oportunity to get the whole family together discussing diseases, politics, football and taxes without killing each other.

It is the holiday to spoil kids rotten with love and food. It's the time in which Santa Claus, or baby Jesus depending on the family, comes to our house at 00:00 and leaves a present for the good behaved kids. Something they have been wanting the whole year.

It's the time to spend hours painting, glueing and swearing because I will not finish the presents in time. It is the time in which I protest a little bit too loudly against what commerce and people are doing to the celebration of Christ's birth: another excuse to spend amounts of money by making people feel guilty if they do not buy the most expensive present.

It's the time in which I make my family happy with cheap hand-made presents, and get presented with more drawing materials for next year...

And of course it's the best time to see a full grown up girl acting like a kid around the Christmas tree, the decoration on the stairs, the boxes with the beautiful glass balls, mother's flower arrangements, aunt's best chocolate cake and gramma's Aletria.

To sum up, it's a wonderful eating time, with a lot of joy because I can see family which I love and can't see the rest of the year, a time to assist the most beautiful masses in the church, and to open with thrilling joy the presents that other made specially just for me. Even if it's just a silly picture on a toothpick frame!  ::|


P.S.: And of course, since I just got family from a different country, it's also the best time to have fun with other traditions... :)
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: LARAGORN on November 27, 2006, 02:21:14 am
I know this isnt new but i still like it :) A great xmass light show, a lot of time and effort.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD8_7c36yfw
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Datruth on November 27, 2006, 02:54:57 am
I know this isnt new but i still like it :) A great xmass light show, a lot of time and effort.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD8_7c36yfw

lol OMG you beat me to it.

I was uploading that movie to my server right when i read your post lol.

There still is a reason to download the actual file, the picture is bigger, with better quality, along with it sounding nicer, because it hasn't been converted to youtube format.

OH well, if anyone wants to download the source movie here it is:

http://www.eggdisk.com/files/108462_j607z/lights.wmv

~~Datruth
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: neko kyouran on November 27, 2006, 06:32:22 am
The picture was even better if you saw it live.   ;)

Unfortunately, the guy only had it up for a week.  Police had him take it down since it attracted so many people it was a safety hazard. All the roads were blocked, etc.  All you had to do was tune your car radio to a certain am station and sit back and enjoy.

I'll spend Christmas like I do every christmas, working a 12 hour graveyard shift.  Don't even get overtime pay or holiday pay either.  *shrugs*

As for shopping, I got that done in July.  Things are cheaper then.  My idea of christmas is just a time of gathering of friends and family, some you never really get to see becuase they live far away and only get a chance to all gather in one place once or twice a year.  As for the captialist view point, meh, I partake in the give and receiving of gifts, becuase I want to show I care.  I like to give gifts to show I care to my family, friends, etc, year round though, so, whatever.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Idoru on November 27, 2006, 12:49:34 pm
Thank you for that excellent and informative post hitancrias, I do like to hear about other culture's traditions, only one question:

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When they go to sleep they can put their shoes near the front door, and if they are lucky Sinterklaas or one of his helpers called Zwarte Pieten (Black Peters) has misteriously managed to get a little present in

How do you fit a PS3 in a shoe ;D


As for the excessive display of Christmas lights, I would prefer if the thousands of pounds was distributed to homeless people or some equally deserving cause. After all, it is the season of good will to ALL men, not just to those equally as well off as yourself.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: hitancrias on November 27, 2006, 02:55:46 pm
Thank you for that excellent and informative post hitancrias, I do like to hear about other culture's traditions, only one question:

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When they go to sleep they can put their shoes near the front door, and if they are lucky Sinterklaas or one of his helpers called Zwarte Pieten (Black Peters) has misteriously managed to get a little present in

How do you fit a PS3 in a shoe ;D

Hmm, didn't I say "little presents". :P The typical shoe presents in the weeks before december 5th are more to 'warm the kids up' for the ever exiting Sinterklaas eve on which bigger presents are usual. Presents for in the shoe can be things like colour pencils or other small presents like some sweets and of course the "chocolate letter".
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: neko kyouran on November 27, 2006, 03:10:21 pm
We celebrated that in our German class back in my high school days.  Germans make darn good chocolate.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Idoru on November 27, 2006, 03:10:37 pm
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of course the "chocolate letter".

would you mind explaining that for me, im enjoying learning these things. I suppose I could just look at Wikipedia, but that wouldnt educate others at the same time  ;)
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: hitancrias on November 27, 2006, 04:41:44 pm
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of course the "chocolate letter".

would you mind explaining that for me, im enjoying learning these things. I suppose I could just look at Wikipedia, but that wouldnt educate others at the same time  ;)

Haha, well it's pretty easy.
A chocolate letter is a letter made of chocolate (http://www.stnicholascenter.org/stnic/images/chocolate-letter-s2.jpg). I'm not referring to mail, but to the letters of the alphabet of course.
Normally kids get the first letter of their names. This might seem unfair, as the M clearly must contain more chocolate then the letter I. The true story is that the letters like I, J, and L are much thicker, whereas the letters like the W and M are rather thin in such a way that every letter has the same weight. Young kids often don't grasp that concept and bicker over it though, which I think is rather funny. Chocolate letters are only sold in the weeks before Sinterklaas.

At your service.
- your local Dutchman
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Idoru on November 28, 2006, 12:08:51 pm
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I'm not referring to mail,

You see, it wasnt so easy because I was thinking you meant mail lmao. Thank you again :)
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Kalika on November 29, 2006, 01:42:51 am
 :love:


oooo pretty colors....


(that christmas light video thingie :P)
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Goldir on November 29, 2006, 02:18:40 am
I believe the question was "What does Christmas mean to you?"  For me it means gathering all 89 (actual number) members of the Horde (a.k.a. all of my family) to one geographic location to gorge ourselves on Lefsa, Lutefisk, Oyster stew, ham, turkey, etc....  It also means crunching the budget and making many trips to the dollar store to buy gifts for the aforementioned mob. Overall, much fun is had, pictures are taken, sometimes they can even con me into getting a little bit of that old time organized religion. By Dec 27 we all want to kill each other on sight. Either from a hangover or just from having umpteen screaming children and yelling adults all in one small house.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: davo on November 30, 2006, 04:05:34 pm
ahh i love christmas, my favourite day of the year and the weeks around chrismas.

I gotta do my shopping for the family soon, i have no idea what to get the girls, my brother will be easy, have no idea for my parrents.

Id better start soon hay.  Girls liiikkee....?  Well i know lachie will like lots of things i can get him.

Christmas reminds me of/i get reminded of christmas when:

1.  The smell of new plastic
2. wearing boardies
3. the smell of christmas trees (i looooove the smell of christmas trees)
4.stockpiles of beer
5.summer heat
6.swimming pools/beach
7.getting angry at north american wanna be's who think its winter and hang up snowflake decorations  ::)
8. wearing thongs (the footwear not underwear)
9.barbieques and eskies (way to hot for roast dinners, (one year we had cubed chease and it actually went soft it was so hot)
10.great atmosphere, well being atmosphere which is so much better when youve got something cool and new (i dont care if its comericial) just makes chistmas funner imo.
11. family
12. getting off my face with my mates on boxing day

To me it means a great day

im not a depressed 'internet generation' guy, i love christmas and dont really mope about.
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Idoru on December 01, 2006, 02:41:46 pm
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.getting angry at north american wanna be's who think its winter and hang up snowflake decorations 


Northern Hemishpere wanabes in general I would have thought ;)
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Goldir on December 01, 2006, 05:06:12 pm
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.getting angry at north american wanna be's who think its winter and hang up snowflake decorations 


Northern Hemishpere wanabes in general I would have thought ;)

Goldir Sings... "I'm Dreaming, of a WARM Christmas.  One where I don't have to freeze my family jewels off in the snow..."


I envy all you Equatorial and Southern hemisphere people.  Nebraska hasn't gotten much snow the last few (eight) years, but it has more than made up for it with bone-chilling arctic breezes.  That is one aspect of the holiday season that I could live without.

Just had to pipe up on that one!
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Kalika on December 01, 2006, 08:19:11 pm
Kalika hopes to get a camera and smoe canvases and acrylic paint and thats all she wants

im so simple :D
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Karyuu on December 01, 2006, 08:20:45 pm
Hail art supplies! :D
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Akaye on December 01, 2006, 11:18:01 pm
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Hail art supplies! :D

Hail!  \\o// I hope I get some. I have been asking for a new sketch book and some pencils on my christmas wish list. *crosses her fingers*
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: Kalika on December 02, 2006, 02:00:52 am
 :flowers: i loveses my fellow artists :D
Title: Re: Christmas shopping
Post by: lordraleigh on December 02, 2006, 06:22:07 am
Santas with T-shirts...  :)

Wearing those hot clothes in tropical weather is really uncomfortable...

Now seriously...

Christmas means to me:

1) The date where an invention of a smart businessman is used to sell more products;
2) Another symbol of the consumerism of our globalized world;
3) The Winter Solstice in Northern Hemisphere(A holiday for "pagan" religions);
4) An excuse to ask for a gift (Civilization 4 probably).

I don't see christmas as a "magical" date... Of couse calling it "magical" attracts more customers!  X-/