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Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Donari Tyndale on December 12, 2006, 08:12:44 pm

Title: Plural of Tria
Post by: Donari Tyndale on December 12, 2006, 08:12:44 pm
Is it the plural of a Tria "Tria" like on www.planeshift.it
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The golden "Circle" is worth 250 Tria
Or is it "Trias" like the system message?
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Everyone has looted 10 Trias
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: Parallo on December 12, 2006, 08:21:53 pm
It would be my opinion that Tria sounds better and I'd be more inclined to trust the settings pages on matters like this than what it says in game.
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: eldoth_terevan on December 12, 2006, 08:22:07 pm
IMHO it should be "tria" as in "a million tria" or "i have many tria", rather than "gee lookit all the trias". I have been avoiding correcting people on this one...
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: Xordan on December 12, 2006, 08:32:34 pm
I say Tria, Talad usually says Trias. :P Grammatically, Tria is correct. But who can argue against a God? Maybe a question for the Q&A?
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: Arka on December 12, 2006, 09:12:24 pm
Should it be One Trium, then? ;)

Arka
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: Donari Tyndale on December 12, 2006, 09:24:38 pm
*Donari wonders "Why don't we call it "monetary unit/s" and stop the argument?" :woot:
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: miadon on December 12, 2006, 09:41:31 pm
the answer is: whatever the community develops as in game words, like real life words evolve\change meaning due to social changes and other life-type things. So current the plural of tria is both: tria and trias.
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: Lithox on December 12, 2006, 09:54:29 pm
Well, im not native english, but afaik one says "i have 100 dollars" to indicate that he has 100 1-dollar-units (um...sounds dull...). Whereas "i have 100 dollar" just means the same amount of money in any denomination (?).

So "100 trias" are just 100 of those little triangular thingies,
and "100 tria" is worth 100 trias, but can consist of hexas and/or octas.

Hope you know what i mean...
just correct me if i am wrong
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: Kalika on December 12, 2006, 10:48:42 pm
i usually say tria, it sounds plural to me..like i have 20 tria...i dunnos :P  :flowers:
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: LigH on December 12, 2006, 11:18:37 pm
I partially second the opinion of Lithox: One is the amount of coins, another is the value...

But I bet many players have worse problems than that.
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: Xordan on December 12, 2006, 11:33:47 pm
1 Yen
100 Yen. Not 100 Yens.

Same with Tria. The structure of the word is what decides on the plural form, you don't just stick an extra 's' on the end :)

But whatever, Tria or Trias, people will understand you :)
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: bilbous on December 13, 2006, 01:16:04 am
I like the vernacular "trips"
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: miadon on December 13, 2006, 01:17:52 am
trias are worth nothing to me I count in hexas!
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: Kalika on December 13, 2006, 01:42:41 am

 you don't just stick an extra 's' on the end :)

ahaha i dos :P :flowers:
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: Garile on December 13, 2006, 06:55:35 am
hmm I use tria and seems to be used the most aswell. Trias might work aswell but somehow sounds artificially  specially seeing it should be triaas to get the in my eyes right prnounciation, but thats personal taste I guess ;)
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: drah on December 13, 2006, 01:06:41 pm
Hmm.. I guess I need to understand Ingrish 'betterer'...

'cuz with a twenty dollar bill and twenty dollars. -- both refer to a plurality of dollars.

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I'd personally go with making either acceptable.. just to save on the nitpicking. ;)
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: Quantus on December 13, 2006, 01:50:51 pm
The plural of Tria is definetly Tria! Or was it Trias? Or both? :P
In fact I think it's both, but in different meanings.

The plural of Tria is Trias, if you are talking about the coins, but Tria, if you are talking about currency or worth.

Remember the coins Tria, Hexa (10 Tria), Octa (50 Tria) and Circle (250 Tria).

So, if you are having one Hexa, you are owning 10 Tria until you change them at the "Bank of Hydlaa" to 10 single Tria coins. Then you are owning 10 Trias with a worth of 10 Tria :)

Since you are able to change one Octa and a Circle, which are having a worth of 300 Tria, to coins, which would be 300 Trias, you are allowed to say either Tria or Trias.
/me likes to count Circels and not Tria
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: emeraldfool on December 13, 2006, 09:29:51 pm
...
We spell colour with a 'u'.

Get my drift?
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: Bereror on December 13, 2006, 10:01:50 pm
Is it the plural of a Tria "Tria" like on www.planeshift.it
Quote
The golden "Circle" is worth 250 Tria
Or is it "Trias" like the system message?
Quote
Everyone has looted 10 Trias

IMHO if there is a conflict between system messages and the settings, then settings are correct. System messages are written by programmers like me who have no clue what the settings are and they shouldn't be trusted :)
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: ThomPhoenix on December 13, 2006, 10:57:54 pm
Well, I once saw a discussion about tria/trias too and I'm sure someone quoted Talad that it's trias that is right.
Just search for "trias" by user "Talad" and you'll see that he uses trias consistently, except for one slight mistake where he uses "tria" ;)
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: emeraldfool on December 14, 2006, 03:22:10 pm
I think the word 'Tria' originated from the god 'Trias' in Planescape (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planescape_Torment#Trias), personally.
Does that help?

But I really think both 'tria' and 'trias' is right, just like color and colour are both right (despite what this bloody html code thinks :P)
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: hook on December 24, 2006, 01:21:23 am
I personally think Tria sounds a lot better. I've noticed this inconsistency as well and it would be great if it was decided what's to be used.
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: Seytra on December 24, 2006, 02:15:12 am
Well, I once saw a discussion about tria/trias too and I'm sure someone quoted Talad that it's trias that is right.
Just search for "trias" by user "Talad" and you'll see that he uses trias consistently, except for one slight mistake where he uses "tria" ;)
Hmm, did that, but he didn't actually mention it often at all. It could be a mistake, but I suppose he wouldn't make such a mistake. "Trias", then.
Is it the plural of a Tria "Tria" like on www.planeshift.it
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The golden "Circle" is worth 250 Tria
Well, the settings page refers to them as "Trias" in the headline and most of the content of that section, but used "Tria" in lots more places. Looks like Quantus' explanation is the best in this light.
I think the word 'Tria' originated from the god 'Trias' in Planescape (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planescape_Torment#Trias), personally.
The settings page states that it comes from "thriangle", since indeed trias are in the form of a triangle. I somehow doubt that the devs would import a pecularity from another game into PS, especially since the other coins are formed and named in the same fashion.
I personally think Tria sounds a lot better. I've noticed this inconsistency as well and it would be great if it was decided what's to be used.
Aye, though putting more inconsistencies into the ingame terminology (i.e., plural would "normally" be "trias", not "tria") might not be good in terms of realism.
I have as of yet been using "tria" as plural (except for some typos), but I'll be using "trias" until further notice.
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: hook on December 24, 2006, 02:44:32 pm
I think there's a similar IRL problem with € - some languages use a different plural for it then others (which is normal), but a lot of people just use "euro" as a plural as well (not limited to language).
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: Coneitic on December 27, 2006, 11:47:15 pm
does it matter? =)
Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: byron7 on January 02, 2007, 01:48:39 pm
Actually I believe that "Tria" is already the plural.
The in-game word "Tria"  I suspect that derives from the word  Triangular which is the shape of the coin.
The word triangular has a Latin origin and specifically from the word "Triangulum" which has the same meaning.
Triangulum though, derives from the Greek word "Trigonon" which is a combination of the words "Tria"=three + "gonia"=angle.
The word "Tria" in ancient Greek is already in plural.

My "three" cents :-)

Title: Re: Plural of Tria
Post by: Bartholin on January 04, 2007, 06:52:51 am
Actually I believe that "Tria" is already the plural.
The in-game word "Tria"  I suspect that derives from the word  Triangular which is the shape of the coin.
The word triangular has a Latin origin and specifically from the word "Triangulum" which has the same meaning.
Triangulum though, derives from the Greek word "Trigonon" which is a combination of the words "Tria"=three + "gonia"=angle.
The word "Tria" in ancient Greek is already in plural.

My "three" cents :-)



i use both... and as stated above with the euro think... i think it should be left up to the players in game.. sometims i say.. WOO i got 5k trias other times.. i say aww.. i lost 100 trias...
tria does sound "better" though again.. leave it to the players :) you aint going to kill someone becuz they said  hey. you want 20 dollar?  ;D