PlaneShift

Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: cyber on January 07, 2007, 03:09:57 am

Title: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: cyber on January 07, 2007, 03:09:57 am
Im working on a theatracial trailer for planeshift if anyone in interested in helping make it (I need people to cast spells and such) please post here or e-mail me cyberempires@gmail.com in-game-name debrableska
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: ThomPhoenix on January 07, 2007, 03:49:00 am
If you want to interest people you should post more of your plans, script, organization, goals etc.
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: Bartholin on January 07, 2007, 10:17:43 am
im in to help.. cant cast anything big.. but i can fight :) though i crash round big spells :(

but yea.. look me up ingame.. i would love to help.. i can set up a drawf army for a shot  :devil:
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: cyber on January 09, 2007, 10:57:09 am
What I am thinking for an intro is having like an army march on the main city. Assult hydalla plaza and the like.. now i know that getting a huge amount of people will be near inpossible but with the right angles and cuts i think 10ish should be enough. Im going to want to have spells being cast such as firebolt and I can use effects to make it burn away the screen ans such. any ideas are great i cant think up everything.
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: Karyuu on January 09, 2007, 03:31:42 pm
That's not really what PlaneShift is about, however. A trailer should not raise false expectations of a game. Maybe something that is more true to the way the game is (meant to be) played will be better?
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: Idoru on January 09, 2007, 03:40:50 pm
That's not really what PlaneShift is about, however. A trailer should not raise false expectations of a game. Maybe something that is more true to the way the game is (meant to be) played will be better?

What is the game about then? If you are refering to RP then im sure that it is concievable that an RP involving the storming of Hydlaa for some reason or other could occur.
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: ThomPhoenix on January 09, 2007, 03:58:04 pm
If you're planning Lord of the Rings like scenes you should take this (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=26613.msg291103#msg291103) as an example :P
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: miadon on January 09, 2007, 04:00:45 pm
or even look at videos that people have already made:

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=26567.0
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: Karyuu on January 09, 2007, 07:07:10 pm
Idoru: a trailer is not just a fan movie :] If someone who knows nothing about PlaneShift is to watch a trailer and see a mass of people running at a city casting spells and starting combat, they're going to walk in expecting a PvP-like game where this is the main activity. A trailer is like an advertisement, and it's supposed to show off the best of what the game can offer. I don't think combat is it at the moment.

Keep in mind that this is a personal opinion.
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: Idoru on January 09, 2007, 07:33:03 pm
Idoru: a trailer is not just a fan movie :] If someone who knows nothing about PlaneShift is to watch a trailer and see a mass of people running at a city casting spells and starting combat, they're going to walk in expecting a PvP-like game where this is the main activity. A trailer is like an advertisement, and it's supposed to show off the best of what the game can offer. I don't think combat is it at the moment.

Keep in mind that this is a personal opinion.

Its a good point, but what would you suggest an alternative to it would be like? Just people stood at Harnquist chatting? A few shots of people who have spent hours at the gold mine hacking away in silence? Maybe im just being small minded but I cant think of a better way to go about it.

When I think of all the fan vids ive seen, I can only think of 2 catagories, Ones that are heavily combat orientated (e.g. Datruth's vids, WotH promotional vid) and those that have a totally OOC premise (PS Simpsons, Jingle Enkis).
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: LARAGORN on January 09, 2007, 07:58:03 pm
Idoru: a trailer is not just a fan movie :] If someone who knows nothing about PlaneShift is to watch a trailer and see a mass of people running at a city casting spells and starting combat, they're going to walk in expecting a PvP-like game where this is the main activity. A trailer is like an advertisement, and it's supposed to show off the best of what the game can offer. I don't think combat is it at the moment.

Keep in mind that this is a personal opinion.

Its a good point, but what would you suggest an alternative to it would be like? Just people stood at Harnquist chatting? A few shots of people who have spent hours at the gold mine hacking away in silence? Maybe im just being small minded but I cant think of a better way to go about it.

When I think of all the fan vids ive seen, I can only think of 2 catagories, Ones that are heavily combat orientated (e.g. Datruth's vids, WotH promotional vid) and those that have a totally OOC premise (PS Simpsons, Jingle Enkis).

In my opinion the best pro-PS vid thus far is the "evil ways" vid. The reason for this is that in the video it captures almost every area (at that time) in PS, it also showed every character type and every animal, rogue critter.... yadda yadda yaddaa. Every combat style vid I have seen lacks the total encapsulated world of PS, and that is fine for what they are. If the idea behind this video is to be a true 'trailer' then it must be thought out completly, to include every area type, no matter how boring you may feel it is. It must include each and every characture type, along with all NPCs and every life form we have.

The main goal should be to do as i have mentioned, but do it in an atractive, attention grabbing manner. Whatever theme is used wether it be combat, story or narrative the overall content should be the same.

Just my two tria :)
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: steuben on January 09, 2007, 08:08:56 pm
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When I think of all the fan vids ive seen, I can only think of 2 catagories, Ones that are heavily combat orientated (e.g. Datruth's vids, WotH promotional vid) and those that have a totally OOC premise (PS Simpsons, Jingle Enkis).
and then there is the postcard project.

but reading over laragorn's post... gives me a couple of ideas for version 3.18 of the project
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: Karyuu on January 09, 2007, 08:26:06 pm
Ooh, great point Laragorn - Evil Ways (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5565776479627795652&q=planeshift+evil+ways) wins by a landslide in my mind's eye.
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: Datruth on January 09, 2007, 08:48:40 pm
Idoru: a trailer is not just a fan movie :] If someone who knows nothing about PlaneShift is to watch a trailer and see a mass of people running at a city casting spells and starting combat, they're going to walk in expecting a PvP-like game where this is the main activity. A trailer is like an advertisement, and it's supposed to show off the best of what the game can offer. I don't think combat is it at the moment.

Keep in mind that this is a personal opinion.

Its a good point, but what would you suggest an alternative to it would be like? Just people stood at Harnquist chatting? A few shots of people who have spent hours at the gold mine hacking away in silence? Maybe im just being small minded but I cant think of a better way to go about it.

When I think of all the fan vids ive seen, I can only think of 2 catagories, Ones that are heavily combat orientated (e.g. Datruth's vids, WotH promotional vid) and those that have a totally OOC premise (PS Simpsons, Jingle Enkis).

In my opinion the best pro-PS vid thus far is the "evil ways" vid. The reason for this is that in the video it captures almost every area (at that time) in PS, it also showed every character type and every animal, rogue critter.... yadda yadda yaddaa. Every combat style vid I have seen lacks the total encapsulated world of PS, and that is fine for what they are. If the idea behind this video is to be a true 'trailer' then it must be thought out completly, to include every area type, no matter how boring you may feel it is. It must include each and every characture type, along with all NPCs and every life form we have.

The main goal should be to do as i have mentioned, but do it in an atractive, attention grabbing manner. Whatever theme is used wether it be combat, story or narrative the overall content should be the same.

Just my two tria :)

If you want that, i could do it.
If you've seen my vids, you'll see i have the graphical capability to make it look nice, and make it seem streamless and flowing.

I could make a trailor, yet i've not decided on it, my number one priority is to finally get that Peacer video finished.

I make videos for you guys, so if a trailor is what you want, that that's what you'll get.
I'll start work on it, either middle of january, or end, hopefully released near end of february.

I've also started work using Sony Vegas, 7.0 (http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/products/product.asp?PID=404)

I'm thinking of doing a Speed effect, that goes through ALL of the game, in a very fast passed way.
Basically me running from oja, to Hydlaa, to the BD, to Magic shop, to the Dungeon, to the arena, to the volcano, in a 1-2 minute clip.
That would be just part of the video, but would give you a nice look.

And plus i would add some nice music to make it sound good, i've been told my music choices have been mostly good thus far.

So hopefully you might like that.

Look forward to seeing my videos look nicer and have more effects.
If you have any other ideas, just post them here.

~~Datruth
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: cyber on January 14, 2007, 08:43:44 am
Well I was planing on using Final Cut studio and Shake to make it but i know vegas is an ok program to use however i prefer avid on the pc.

Ne-ways the video I wanted to make is ment to be intertaining look at the wow trailers. A lot of wow is just farming but the trailers are much more intertaining then clicking a button over and over. Like I said before ill take any ideas but a post like make it show what planeshift is about is not much help without something else with it.
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: witchking on January 14, 2007, 10:21:13 am
Guys, please excuse me, while I type this cos I'm quite drunk now (which was after my last major reply in my thread) but I wanna reply anyways.

Karyuu, I understand your concerns, I hate either extreme - the so called "RP nazis" or "PvP l33t pwners". And believe me, girl, this isn't anything against you, I just think that any great MMORPG should be a good balance of RP and PvP, and not an extreme of one or another. For example, even a supposedly PvP-heavy (or rather RvR-heavy, which I like better than just PvP) MMORPG like Warhammer Online, will be extremely fun and possible to play completely PvE and RP and yet STILL affect the outcome of the conflict and war in their universe. They have an excellent approach to the whole thing, IMO.

Besides, who was it that said, "There is no story without conflict"? Some famous guy, can't remember his name now... Any story writers always have to learn that there has to be a drama, a conflict that appeals to basic human nature, even from a philosophical point of view.

And before any people start screaming that PS doesn't want to imitate any other games, Salvador Dali said, "Those who do not want to imitate anything, produce nothing".

So, just because PS is RP-heavy, doesn't mean that it can't include major conflicts like wars. Wars do not necessarily have to imply the "same ole" PvP or "power-leveling".

Karyuu, once again, this isn't anything against you, I think you have some great ideas here and there. And once again, I'm quite a bit drunk, so excuse me, if anything sounds not like usual me now but I think a major conflict, even a war, would be great for a trailer. Drama always gets people interested. And purposely trying to avoid it, just to try and avoid "power levelers" or "pwners" won't work because they will always be there no matter what.

Even in a game like WoW, some PvP players purposely make characters on RP'ing servers to harass RP'ers. You might say, "well, they already have Blizzard accounts, so it's easy" but don't forget that PS is free, so it's even easier.

Besides, c'mon, Laanx hates Talad, it makes sense that she'd try to conquer him and his people.

Once again, all of this is said in a calm tone of voice with a big smile.  :D

PS Just to make sure there is no misunderstanding, the trailer should be a good balance of RP and PvP, without either one being too overbearing. :)

EDIT: Some typos fixed.
Title: Re: Planeshift Trailer...Anyone wanna help make one?
Post by: cyber on January 16, 2007, 12:07:12 am
I gotta agree with this one  ;D