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Gameplay => In-Game Roleplay Events => Topic started by: mektar on January 09, 2007, 05:49:14 am
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The GM endorsed event "Sword Theft" was written by Karyuu. Three GM's participated in the event, Rayken, Caarrie, and Mektar. In the event a female Enkidukai named Wytlina is indiscreetly looking around for a band of thieves in Hydlaa to help her steal a sword from a Kran named Vynnelden who is a guard in a Bronze Door tower. Wytlina has wanted this sword for a long time but Vynnelden is too strong for her to overwhelm him alone. The event was completed successfully and had about 8 participants. It was rather hard to find enough evil characters for the event.
I would greatly appreciate any feedback from the events participants. Feel free to tell us what we did right and what we did wrong. Suggestions on how to improve future events are welcome. :)
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I didn't know at the time you were looking for evil characters, I enjoyed this event is was played out very well and lasted a while. The ones who did a /die annoyed me though i ran my backside off :D Great job! :thumbup:
Vigel, Lorina and a few others on being requested to find a sword by Wytlina Bac embark on a journey to the Bronze Door Fortress.On there arrival they are met by Vynnelden, he shouts down to know who we are with an angry tone,As a group we climb his watch tower and surround him.
In his hand he bears a sword,It is immensely well crafted and the full group can't take there eyes off it.The group tries to persuade him to hand it over by offering tria and other weapons until he finally settles for an ulbernaut fur and 5 apples.
The group has a talk and heads there seperate ways an leave one or two with the guard,Half of the group who left head to Hydlaa for fresh apples and the other half to the ruins to kill the mighty ulbernaut.After sometime the objects are gathered and took to Vynnelden who gladly hands over the sword.The group heads back to Hydlaa to see Wytlina to collect there reward.
On arrival to Wytlina she is happy to the sword but is met with greed by the group,she offers tria to the group and is swiftly turned down time after time,After nearly thirty minutes of haggling and a bargain was made, the tria was handed to the group and Wytlina got the sword she had asked us to steal.
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Gharan, that is an excellent description of how the event unfolded. I'm also very happy you enjoyed taking part in it. :)
BTW: I played the Kran guard named Vynnelden. :D
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Whoever played Wytlina i hope we didn't give you to much of a hard time but so many shady characters simply wouldn't hand over a sword so valuable. :)
EDIT:And thumbs up for RP aimed at the "evil" characters :thumbup:
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Whoever played Wytlina i hope we didn't give you to much of a hard time but so many shady characters simply wouldn't hand over a sword so valuable. :)
That was I. And no problem, it was perfectly in character. I actually enjoyed that part :D Wytlina proved to be a really fun character to play, especially during that bargaining bit at the end.
Thanks for your feedback, Gharan!
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If it was large-scale, an IC announcement on the forums would've popped up. Something this small though is not worth it - normally you should expect GM events at any time and in any place. They are in-game events, after all.
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the one day out of he week coneitic was in oja.........
all well, he couldnt be much help, not like hes a thief or anything.. =)
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And i'd personally send EL and our 10-15 members to your GM events.
If you want more people, and you want more fun, maybe an announcement could accomplish it?
And would it hurt, to make a single post?
Probably not.
Again, to each his own, if a small event is what you would like, at any given time, than there is no problem with it.
But if your aiming for something bigger, an announcement might help.
I don't see where there was a plea to have more people involved or comments on it not being fun because there wasn't enough people? This thread was started to ask for feedback on a certain event ran by three Gm's remember? They wanted to hear some feedback from those who DID participate in the event.
If we Gm's have a large event we are planning, then we know to come to the forums Daturth. Everyone knows that who uses the forums. Sometimes we choose not to post an event and sometimes we choose to post. It is the right of the person who wrote the event to choose which. If it is small events we don't announce them but spring it on the players for fun and surprize. That is the way it works.
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I think that event would've been awful with to many people. It would have been quite unrealistic.
Do you think a large amount of people would bother themselves with one person wanting to steal a sword? People want to steal swords everyday. Why don't I see clashes over it every day with large amounts of people involved? That would be unrealistic. Its an everyday occurence and it would be both unbelieveable and unrealistic and I go further to say OOC for lots of people to get involved.
I've found, the best in game events, are announced.
Not nessesarily true. Your looking at all events as planned. I'd much rather constantly RP as much as possible and let events spontaneously happen out of that rather than OOCly concieve of a way to get my character involved in something interesting.
[Several posts merged after thread cleaning. --Karyuu]
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I took part and any more than 10 would of been ridiculous we had fun as a group of 7 or 8 and the RP went great imo.
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Do you think a large amount of people would bother themselves with one person wanting to steal a sword?
They would for a huge reward. That isn't unrealistic. You offer a million dallors for the first person to get back a stolen item in the RL world and you better bet your ass people will be stumbling over themselves to be the first to aquire it.
I guess it all depends on the situation whether or not it is realistic. I mean a small nobody in Yliakum .... ya, I am thinking not many would care to help. However if it was an important person with a major status in Yliakum then people will be more than willing to offer a helping hand for reasons of their own ... whether it be to gain fame, trias, or a solid status in yliakum.
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aww.. i missed it.. cant ya guys anousce such things ahead of time? wait.. nvm.. "Attention of players in an hour a damsile in distress will need to be rescued" :lol: answerd my own quistion.. well.. MAYBE having events on weekends IF you could.. plz :'(
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More GM events is the answer to everyone wanting a post before hand because they feel left out.
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I'd much rather constantly RP as much as possible and let events spontaneously happen out of that rather than OOCly concieve of a way to get my character involved in something interesting.
My thoughts exactly, hence my preference for smaller, un-announced events.
More GM events is the answer to everyone wanting a post before hand because they feel left out.
We're working on it :D
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I've heard of duplicate threads, but duplicate questions within a thread?
I've found, the best in game events, are announced.
Not nessesarily true. Your looking at all events as planned. I'd much rather constantly RP as much as possible and let events spontaneously happen out of that rather than OOCly concieve of a way to get my character involved in something interesting.
I'm sorry to say friend, that is true, no unplanned GM event has ever parrallelled a planned Player or GM event.
It's just as simple as, giving people heads up, to go online and free there time.
I mean i'm in game alot... a whole lot..... but even i'd miss some GM events, which i might make if they were announced.
But this was a different type of event, as mentioned, that needed to be small, so an announcement wasn't necessary.
~~Datruth
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I'd much prefer this small event in which one can be intimitly involved than a huge one where your just a face. I think your equating size with quality which is absurd.
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I'm sorry to say friend, that is true, no unplanned GM event has ever parrallelled a planned Player or GM event.
It's just as simple as, giving people heads up, to go online and free there time.
What definition of "planned" are you using, exactly? Every GM event has to be planned, simply because it needs Talad's approval. There is no such thing as a spontaneous GM event that a couple of people randomly decide to run out of nowhere.
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i have never been in a gm event.. darn school'ing ;D
i do hear that they are very well done.. so :thumbup:
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@Akaye:
I'm really not sure that Datruth's message was that they didn't have fun, one of his best psbuddies said it was fun... I merely think he was offering his help... just like you are when you are a gm
as for the event, it looks to have turned out pretty well, an unexpected thing took part that gm's haven't foreseen making it even better (teh evil guys not wanting to hand over the sword.)I've heard of duplicate threads, but duplicate questions within a thread?
I've found, the best in game events, are announced.
Not nessesarily true. Your looking at all events as planned. I'd much rather constantly RP as much as possible and let events spontaneously happen out of that rather than OOCly concieve of a way to get my character involved in something interesting.
I'm sorry to say friend, that is true, no unplanned GM event has ever parrallelled a planned Player or GM event.
It's just as simple as, giving people heads up, to go online and free there time.
I mean i'm in game alot... a whole lot..... but even i'd miss some GM events, which i might make if they were announced.
But this was a different type of event, as mentioned, that needed to be small, so an announcement wasn't necessary.
~~Datruth
I've made spontaneous events, they worked out pretty well... Parallo joined one of them and liked it :] as well as the other 10->15 persons Who was in the tavern or around.
You just need a backstory
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...an unexpected thing took part that gm's haven't foreseen making it even better (teh evil guys not wanting to hand over the sword.)
I totally foresaw that :P How can you gather a band of less-than-nice characters and not expect at least a tiny mutiny?
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...an unexpected thing took part that gm's haven't foreseen making it even better (teh evil guys not wanting to hand over the sword.)
I totally foresaw that :P How can you gather a band of less-than-nice characters and not expect at least a tiny mutiny?
doh my bad...
to be a sore loser and not admit it, because then they wouldn't get the money... (don't say they would threatn to kill her now xD)
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...an unexpected thing took part that gm's haven't foreseen making it even better (teh evil guys not wanting to hand over the sword.)
I totally foresaw that :P How can you gather a band of less-than-nice characters and not expect at least a tiny mutiny?
...I didn't. Though in hindsight it was pretty dumb of me not to expect it.
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Every GM event has to be planned, simply because it needs Talad's approval.
OMG!! Are you serious... of course you are, but why? No wonder there are so few GM events that ive seen, ive been involved in two (as far as I can remember). I dont want to repeat what has been said in another curent thread (actually I do) but why is it that Talad cant delegate? Surely he has trust in the GMs to make them GMs, why cant he atleast trust them to make GM events on their own?
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It is not that talad does not trust us it is a matter of we need enough gms available to run an event not many events can be run with less them 3 gm's so it takes time to get them together to run the event and set it up.
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It is not that talad does not trust us it is a matter of we need enough gms available to run an event not many events can be run with less them 3 gm's so it takes time to get them together to run the event and set it up.
The actual point is that the event has to be in-line with the settings, and rewards have to be given the OK by developers. Can't have GMs giving out an extravagant amount of PP or items that aren't supposed to be out in the community yet, and by having event approval there's a way of checking that everything is as it should be.
The approval process itself is not what we are currently struggling with, but rather what Illori stated. It's a different subject though.
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The problem is not that there are not enough GMs. It is that the 'nifty tools' they use are limited, as well as the client. Logging in with a normal client and only being able to contol one character, NPC, or creatue at a time, while not being able to set up any trips, triggers, or what-not is a bad way to GM. It is -hard- to set up and control an event. Starcraft has a better scripting system, and it isn't even an RPG. GMs are supposed to be Dungeon Master types. A DM sees the entire 'board' and 'story' at once, not through a single character's eyes. That is what the rest of us are supposed to be doing.
With the proper system, I can answer the questions of "How many people?" One person to set it up, one, or even no one to run it.
Though, I guess I am not the one to ask, as I see 'events' as lasting weeks or months, not hours. I would not even think of starting one that lasted less than two weeks. Not that it matters anymore.
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Well if you need ideas hear is one of the top of my head.
1. player one. walks into plaza says could someone help me, I have lost my family ring. reply if some one responds, I last noticed it on my finger by the lake just past the green tunnel on way to BD, I had stopped to cool my feet in the lake, under a tree. (give 200 tria for expenses)
2. player two. stood by lake, if asked about a ring, or someone appearing to be searching for something, yes I did see someone, he asked me did I know of any one who new about rings, I sent him to the ruins the other side of this tunnel, to the right. I was there yesterday and a was talking to (player 3).
3. player 3. if asked about a ring say yes I brought one off someone today.(offers to sell ring for 200 tria).(Dark ring).
4. up to player, does he keep ring or give it to player 1.?
5. 1000 tria reword for getting ring back.
There is a quick example of a simple quest, that can be done with 3 players.
Datruth, I think this is more what Karyuu was hopping for a example of a event run by you.
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In my opinion player events WITH GM help are the best, ive seen it done many times before and it works brilliantly, especialy if the GM doesnt tell the player they are going to do somthing and you have like a 'Woah... nice' moment.
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What I have seen in game is a lot of players who are getting bored and hang around hoping for an event. More GM events would be great but let's not trash what events are going on.
There should be room enough for both RP and OOC events and players can decide whether or not to participate. Not having much time to be on myself I applaud the people who are able to put an rp event together. Maybe Talad would allow a test period where he would let the GM's demonstrate (if they have the time and inclination) what they could do on their own?
[ Off-topic part of this post has been removed, due to a thread cleaning. --Karyuu]
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well.. rememeber that players host events to. like me.. i got a nice event commin (link is in the sig) or the battle event (slaver rp) its not that not enought gm events are made.. its the lack of ppl that a) dont know about it.. or b) dont care about it ::| surprising i know :).
the gms have enough to do with out having to take crap from the players for not host 20 events a month. if your bored.. then a) start an event or b) join an event or c) stop playing..
dont give the gms crap cuz they dont have enough events.. sure.. i would love to be in one but ya dont see me asking the gms about it..
[hehe.. sorry bout the seemly advertisment of my event :sweatdrop: ]
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Well i wouldnt be suprised if there was a GM hovering around the battle... And if we are lucky, the said GM might see an opurtinity to add a little spice ;) ;) Nudge Nudge
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Well i wouldnt be suprised if there was a GM hovering around the battle... And if we are lucky, the said GM might see an opurtinity to add a little spice ;) ;) Nudge Nudge
like make weather :) or some surprise trained ulber army :lol: