PlaneShift
Gameplay => Newbie Help (Start Here) => Topic started by: Black_rose on January 28, 2007, 09:39:14 pm
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Can someone tell me roughly what the time period is supposed to resemble? It's somewhere in between the rennesance and the fall of rome but where?
just wondering cause I didn't see it on the site (Didn't look very hard though but still"
Thanks ^.^'
~Dusty
P.S. I <3 being a n00b XD
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I tend to think of it as during the 'Dark Ages'
But I really don't think comparing Yliakum to Earth is a fair thing to do...
Although until we can get a nice in-depth world overview, I guess it's the only thing we got...
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I think of it as Ancient Future, after an apocalyptic event, life has mutated and moved underground. Actually, the Setting Description (http://www.planeshift.it/setting.html) is kewl!
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I tend to think of it as during the 'Dark Ages'
That's very helpful, since "the Dark Ages" describes the time between the Renaissance and the fall of Rome.
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I tend to think of it as during the 'Dark Ages'
That's very helpful, since "the Dark Ages" describes the time between the Renaissance and the fall of Rome.
That's very helpful, since your comment was filled with such infinite wisdom...
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I tend to think of it as during the 'Dark Ages'
That's very helpful, since "the Dark Ages" describes the time between the Renaissance and the fall of Rome.
That's very helpful, since your comment was filled with such infinite wisdom...
'Superior' wisdom, not infinite.
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I think it is safe to say right now is a rough time period :p
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'Superior' wisdom, not infinite.
Why thank you. Your wisdom is a continuing source of inspiration for us all...
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Why thank you. Your wisdom is a continuing source of inspiration for us all...
Yay!! So are your apparently infinite quantity of one liners.
Anyways Zanzibar is correct in that "Dark Ages" isn't just a rough time period its a huge expanse of time. Besides I doubt this falls into dark ages style times since there are plenty of libraries, civilization is stable, disease is not rampant, etc. The dark ages were a period where we know little of because very few written records were maintained. Very little technology advancement was happening as well. PS seems to be frozen in some sort of enlightenment period with lots of learning, etc... although advancements seem slow. Perhaps thats due to the relatively peaceful atmosphere of the area. Sometimes conflict is a good way to drive innovation.
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Why thank you. Your wisdom is a continuing source of inspiration for us all...
Yay!! So are your apparently infinite quantity of one liners.
Anyways Zanzibar is correct in that "Dark Ages" isn't just a rough time period its a huge expanse of time. Besides I doubt this falls into dark ages style times since there are plenty of libraries, civilization is stable, disease is not rampant, etc. The dark ages were a period where we know little of because very few written records were maintained. Very little technology advancement was happening as well. PS seems to be frozen in some sort of enlightenment period with lots of learning, etc... although advancements seem slow. Perhaps thats due to the relatively peaceful atmosphere of the area. Sometimes conflict is a good way to drive innovation.
I really don't think comparing Yliakum to Earth is a fair thing to do... Yliakum is totally different, with totally different circumstances.
Although until we can get a nice in-depth world overview, I guess it's the only thing we got... We can't see into the developer's minds. When they say 'medieval', medieval earth is the only thing we have to go on.
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They could have said that its WWII settings. That would not have made it any more like WWII. I think the purpose of this is to, through observation, find a rough comparision to our own world as that is the world that we understand easiest. It's more enlightenment than dark ages without doubt.
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I think the time period is based on the 5 Epochs, and wer'e in the 6th now, but comparitviely to earth's we are in the dark ages.
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Also I heard somewhere that most of the Yliakum population is literate.
I think PS Settings is a mix of medieval technology, advanced applications of magic that may resemble more modern things and enlightenement age knowledge. But after all, this isn't Earth, there is no Inquisition, two religions conflict between themselves, etc.
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Right. Almost a sort of world that doesnt belong in an earth-formed time zone, basically. I think the Epochs, again, are the best way to judge planeshift time
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I think the time period is based on the 5 Epochs, and wer'e in the 6th now, but comparitviely to earth's we are in the dark ages.
5 Epochs? How many years is that, roughly?
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Hmm... seven-hundred and fifty, maybe?
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Hmm... seven-hundred and fifty, maybe?
Oh so now you do think it's the dark ages, just because Garris said so :P
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No actually. Thats the only year you can choose to be born in in character creation.
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No actually. Thats the only year you can choose to be born in in character creation.
I wish I'd thought of that when I was trying to argue that the Dark Ages is the closest comparison...
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Even if you had of it's not a good argument.
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Even if you had of it's not a good argument.
Better than yours. You can only do so much in 750 years, and I'd imagine Yliakum might even have had a few set backs with crazy uber-powerful wizards nuking the gaff, and pterosaurs going on rampages...
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But we have glyphs and the rate of advancment with those is immesurable.
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But we have glyphs and the rate of advancment with those is immesurable.
The rate of hindrance of that advancement due to glyphs would probably make it even out.
Sure, you can build some cool machine, but you can also call down a meteor to destroy it.
But you're right. There's no comparing Yliakum to Earth. For the fourth time, I'm not contending that.
But you can't deny there are parallels between Yliakum and Earth, and those relate a lot to Earth's Dark Ages.
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But more so to the Earth's Enlightenment period.
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I don't get this. Ya say "It's stupid to compare the two", but then you do it anyway. Does that make you both stupid? ^_^
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I didn't say its stupid to compare them. It is stupid, however, to compare by time rather than by culture.
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But more so to the Earth's Enlightenment period.
I'd just assumed that was a comparison to Earth's Enlightment Period, early eighteenth century...
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Aye, the culture of the time. Not the year.
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Aye, the culture of the time. Not the year.
Aww, you said 'aye'. That's cute...
Anyway, Harnquist seems like a dark age man to me. In fact, I don't really see any similarities to the eighteenth century's culture...
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Everyone is literate, we have nice technology, people are less intolerant than in the middle-ages, we have organizations dedicated to the pursuit of knowledge, etc. etc.
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Everyone is literate, we have nice technology, people are less intolerant than in the middle-ages, we have organizations dedicated to the pursuit of knowledge, etc. etc.
Aye, but has that ever been explicitly stated by the devs?
Aye, but not as nice as the stuff from the enlightenment period
What about the whole Enkidukai slave RP? And I've met plenty of intolerant characters in-game. Besides, people were still intolerant in the 18th century, they were just more subtle about it. Yet Yliakum (with the /challenge command) lacks that subtlety.
There was plenty of organizations like that in the Dark Ages.
Anyway, now you're making me compare the two. You're a demon-child!
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Aye, but has that ever been explicitly stated by the devs?
I'm pretty sure it has been.
Aye, but not as nice as the stuff from the enlightenment period.
You obviously haven't seen the Winch.
What about the whole Enkidukai slave RP? And I've met plenty of intolerant characters in-game. Besides, people were still intolerant in the 18th century, they were just more subtle about it. Yet Yliakum (with the /challenge command) lacks that subtlety.
There was plenty of organizations like that in the Dark Ages.
I ment society as a whole.
Anyway, now you're making me compare the two. You're a demon-child!
That's not very nice :P
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For me personally I think of Yliakum as a place that can't be compared to anything in the real world at all. I don't think we are in a time period but rather a whole different world. There are things in Yliakum that aren't possible in this world as we know it and perhaps there are more advancements than we even know. In the other case perhaps the world is even less advanced than what we think. Either way, it is a unique place.
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For me personally I think of Yliakum as a place that can't be compared to anything in the real world at all. I don't think we are in a time period but rather a whole different world. There are things in Yliakum that aren't possible in this world as we know it and perhaps there are more advancements than we even know. In the other case perhaps the world is even less advanced than what we think. Either way, it is a unique place.
Yes, you can't ressurect the dead with modern medicine but you can do it with a very advanced knowledge on the Crystal Way for example.
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Yes, a good example indeed. One of the many you can find.
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If one is new to role playing and is trying to role play, this ere would be that of the popular fantisy movies you see in theaters.
If you are trying to label this ere in some way or form, you have to wait for history to decide that.
However, we are in an increase of knowledge period. We have probably just came out of the stone age. You can deduct this from the stone ruins we find. We are well into the iron age because we have the iron towers. However, if we check out our history books, we have had this knowledge of iron working since we have been put upon this land.
Our society encourages the crafting knowledge along with the physical sciences. We have no knowledge of many of the physics however. We know things fall, we know Laanx can send people to the death realm and if need be, totaly wipe people from the face of this land. We know that we are in a cone shape world and can study this shape from the cones that are produced along the walls. Our land has many minerals but only one significant water source. We know this water comes from ourside our world. We have flying animals, crawling animals, insects, and animals that walk upright. We have experts in these animals, so i wont go into this science at this time. Our scientists have notions about radiation, but we can not harnis this kind of energy, execpt fire. We do have an energy we call magic. This is a very large part of our physical science. We do not understand these properties, but can wield them with great accuracy.
Our gods are very active in ours lives. [developers, gms, etc] Some could say that we are not in a utopia due to this active notion of religion. As we can see today, we can only progress as much as our gods would want us to. They might give us new technologies, new races might come from the portals described by our priests, they might even take those technologies away from us.
We have a strong form of government. As it stands right now, the common man cannot become a ruler or be incharge of anything in the official government. We do however have guilds that can wield power over people. We do not fear death, we only find it an annoyance. We do not fear disease. The first level of our world dose not fear famine, but other levels, food is scarce. We do not fear much of anything besides social issues and the possible oblideration of oneself by our gods.
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I think that what you say is true.
Aye, but has that ever been explicitly stated by the devs?
Aye, but not as nice as the stuff from the enlightenment period
What about the whole Enkidukai slave RP?
In the 18th century I think there was slavery of the people from Africa. We brong them over on ships to work in plations if I rember right. Also there still is, but it is hidden and illage in the U.S and it dose happen in third world conurtys. Slavery has never gone away.
I would compare it more to the culter of the romans then to the middle ages. There goverment is more of republic. Most of them can read and writte. Also during these short meetings the members of the External Circle can elect a new Octarch if the previous is dead or too old. Inaddtion they have a better commonation then in the middle ages.
Why would they need to develop what we have now, if they have the ways. Most of what we developed is because of need. They do not need missiles, because they can create fire with the ways. Another is they have flying beast that can be rode to different places, so they do not need airplines.
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The whole Enki slave Rp was mainly just an Rp, but very well done on both sides. However, we need more! I know the devs are working on this, but a "slave" skill might be cool. The time period is very similiar to medieval times, like everyone has said, still, read my former posts on what I think.
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"Slave skill"? After all everyone explained about the general relationship between races in Yliakum...?
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Sounds kinky :P
Why would you need a skill to enslave people?
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There are the Mind Control techniques from Azure Way and Lah'ar.
I guess it will be possible to temporarily "enslave" someone using them(Permanent control? I doubt about it - Except for NPCs :devil: ).