PlaneShift
Fan Area => Roleplaying (Communitive Storywriting) => Topic started by: Garris Shrike on March 01, 2007, 07:49:56 pm
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I seem to remember never seeing a Historian for PS, and I was wondering if you all needed one. I have several I can nominate, such as Draklar, Under The Moon, etc. and ikkle me.... and more. I think there should also be someone who could say, right books for Planeshift (I'd do it for free, if you trust my writing skills lol.) There are more qualified people, and it would be nice to sit down sometime with a complete history of Yliakum, or just a good book about the world of Planeshift and some of the goings-on there. Like someone could record a GM event in a story-book format and such. Just an idea to consider. I know, flame me. But heck.
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Anyone with ideas who is reading this first post, please skim to the bottom and post them there.
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Draklar isn't around anymore, unfortunately... :> Chances are many who have posted stories in this forum section are neither.
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NOOOO!! Pity he left, he was a GREAT writer. Any ideas on the historian post?
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Well, I think people have been writing book-worthy things anyway without the title of "Historian" :] If someone wants to give their character such a rank, they're free to have fun with it. So if this is an endeavor you want to embark on, jump right in!
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http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=26518.0 <--- running up something for this one might be a good place to start
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Ok, Steuben. I shall submit a story for your challenge. I was also considering actually getting Talad to approve my newfound 'position', cause without that approval I'd be walkin on thin air.
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There's no need for approval for this.. :} You're not doing anything "risky."
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Ok good. So I shall assume my mantle of: ahh-hemm: "officialish" Planeshift HIstorian
@Karyuu
But after reading the 5 epochs and importing them into a silimarillionish sort of work for the history, what if i get something that the boss no likey?
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It's fan work, right? Unless your aim is to make this "official" and get it on the website or into the game, there's no issue :]
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Well that is partially my aim, thus that is why I am considering it a position. Now like I said, if there is already someone doing it, then I can resume what I was doing in other posts. writing me little works.
@Steuben
So I just read your rules, I don't suppose i could submit the finished "Teller of Tales" story into it?
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In that case you will have to talk to Talad. However, chances are this isn't going to work, because that's what we have members of the Settings team for.
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To be honest I'd rather keep dragons out of the Planeshift settings.
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That's what I figured. Anyways, I will write my little history, and it might be done in say....2 years? It will be fairly long. I need more info about the history of Yliakum anyways, so anyone with ideas on it, post here, or pm me. I would still love to be the Historian, but considering you all have talented members anyways..oh well lol. No prob. Soooo. Ideas!
@Parallo
No dragons, dont worry!
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Have you considered applying for the Settings team? ;)
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Hmmm. Lemme take a look at that. I will consider that. However, I may not be qualified.....Still, Steuben, could I use the finished version of The Teller of Tales in your story competition?
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To put it extremely lightly, Darkmoon is an awesome guy.
You've got nothing to lose by applying. And if you are accepted, you get to work with him.
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nope. has to be a fresh/unposted work.
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I do believe one of the more recent additions to the settings team is an exeptional writer who is going to rework the history. Filling in the holes and exanding where needed. I dont see this happening to quick though, because I think the NPC logs and quest logs are the priority, and we all can agree work needs to be done there.
I say the more the marrier ;) Aply to the settings department.
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I'd love to, fellows, but for a little longer I'm gonna have to stick to my fan-work, unless Talad would make an age exception. (Which he wont). Who's the guy who joined? I might wanna meet him. So, for the next year or so, I shall be working on a sort of history, which I will present eventually. But before that, I have a story for Steuben that is not quite ready.
Oh, and I also would be able to do quite a bit of NPC work too. But anyways...
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Unless you're just rewording the settings then it will be fiction IC and OOC. You can't just say 'here, this is the new history.'
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No no no, parallo. Actually using the current history, and just making more little tidbits that dont conflict with the main story. just to make a cool history that sparks interest in planeshift, I suppose.
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Just because it doesn't conflict doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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I dont quite get it. It doesnt CHANGE the history, it just adds more for a good story. K?
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A non-settings team member can't write the history. Whatever you write didn't actually happen in Yliakum.
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Thus that is why I said continuing FAN work for now. Unless I get approved for the post, I am still writing FAN work. See the post above (A ways above)
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I know. The fan work you do write isn't history though. It's at most mythology.
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Yes, all fan work is, if you havent noticed. It would be a mythological history. Also, like i said, if someone high up likes it, or i'm accepted before i write it (Again I most likeley wont be,) Then it would be history. But I shall make my point clear. For now, It is fan work/mythology. Non-Canonical. No the accepted history. etc.
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I was making that clear. Mythology is stuff that did not happen. You can write that. History is stuff that did. You can't write that. You said you were adding to the history so naturally I reacted to that as though that is what you ment.
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Righto, my bad. It was a sort of wishful thought that I may write some history some time for PlaneShift. Sorry I didn't make that clear.
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Settled then. In future try to say what you mean.
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*pounds his forehead and sighs* just look above you, Parallo, and you would have seen what I was trying to say. End of story, no more arguing. :-X
Im done. Anyone else have comments/suggestions?
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I dont quite get it. It doesnt CHANGE the history, it just adds more for a good story. K?
That says it all. If you can't see how wrong that is there is no hope.
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:-X whatever. I see what you are trying to say, and to make it all clear so we don't have to post on this all over again, these are my goals.
1. Make a fan work that could be some means called a mythological, made up, "history" NOTE THE WORDS FAN WORK! Of course, your argument is that the words history and myth cannot be used together. Is that why people debate over them? Such as: "Dinosaurs, history or myth" (Don't flame me or start a new weird convo over that, it's just an example of some ppl.) Therefore, If I was accepted onto the team, you would'nt even be arguing with me right now. But lets not use that.
2. One of a writers main goals is to make his story interesting, so people will read it. If you have never heard anything like this, then here goes: A writer is worthless if no one reads his stuff. Thats the whole point of a story, myth or not. It has to be read to be worthwhile at all.
Read Karyuu's posts, she didn't criticize either because she is nice, or she didn't see anything too wrong. Maybe a mixture of both. I dont know her purposes.
Ok, does that sum it up? If you still believe there is no hope for me, fine, that's your opinion, and I grant it to you willingly. Just leave off, unless there is a good idea that you have. All I want now is ideas...
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What you are saying now makes sense but if you can't see how wrong what you did say is there is no hope. Don't put words in my mouth. You said something you evidently didn't mean and I brought you up on it. Don't get mad at me. I'm letting this drop now because someone seems to be too stobburn to admit to being wrong.
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Sorry I was mad, forgive my indignation. But any other posts can be considered off topic and will be dealt with somehow. Thanks for correcting me in some places, Parallo. You good with that? Now, the next posts shall be for ideas only. Thanks for the input, guys.
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No problem. That's much better.
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Does anyone else find it amusing that such an obvious newbie wants to be a historian? I chuckle at the presumptiousness.
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I found it funny but I didn't want to say. I think I seemed rude enough.
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Well the fact that hes new doesent mean he isnt good at writing.
Sure he may not be all that familiar with everything but the history of PS isnt that long now and there is a lot to build on
personaly i think Shrike is perfect for the position since he sure can write but thats just my opinion...
And Parallo dont start nitpicking me aswell ok?
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While he has potential he is anything but perfect. He is also too young.
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Just admit it, you're feeling competition ;)
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Me? Or Phinehas? I don't write.
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i think hes refering to Phin their both great writers
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Me? Competition? That's funny.
Actually, I don't really have any aspirations to be a historian. It just amuses me that someone shows up and a month or two later is like "Hey, I'm want to be the historian!"
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month or two later??!?!?! Actually, I have been playing for two years.
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Historian?
I would say to begin as a reporter to write news about what is currently happening in Planeshift( In-character ), although probably it would be a "Sundry" column on marriages, etc. as nothing happens commonly like the violence, etc. that commonly plagues RW and some days the newspaper would only have one new: "Nothing happened".
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Good idea, lordraleigh, but I would have to have alot of help to figure what was going on. Also, I was considering actually writing a post-this epoch "myth/history" (Thanks to Parallo) On what happened. Oh, and to Phinehas, I won't presume to argue with you, seeing as you "own" these forums, but contribute a work to Steuben's Story Challenge #3, and there i will presume to beat you.
Also, you're right, I am anything but perfect when it comes to writing and such, that's why I like to get ideas and help.
(gee thanks Parallo. I bet I've been playing for longer than you. Just not posting on the forums.)
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I ment you're not perfect for the job as you don't seem up to date with the settings. I wouldn't suggest a head to head with Phinehas in writing though. Bad idea. Go read some of his stuff.
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Yeah, I've read some of his stuff, He is a good author. But when I take the time, I can write too. Often times I just post an idea I have with a little embellishment, and call it a story. Such as the Garris Shrike tales themselves. Thanks for the warning, though.
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Post something with thought then. Thats not an insult. I'm just in the mood for entertainment.
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Ok ok, I shall post a new section of Garris Shrike in there, one with a little more though put into it. If you stay on, then you can read it.
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Funnily enough, I never claimed to be a great writer that I know of...
Oh, and if you've been around for two years then I apologize, but your account does list you as registered in February of this year... How is that? Did you only play in-game, or did you have to create a new forum account for some strange reason?
As for Steuben's challenge, that's a long wait to find out who the "better" writer is...
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Well, I mainly played Ingame for the most part, and I really did not know of the forums till just a little ago, for some reason. Oh, and you are a good writer, Phinehas, I just read some of your stuff. It's a long wait, so g'head and post some new stuff.
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Funny, I've never even seen you walk by. Just strange that we shouldn't meet once.
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I have been playing for something like 2.5 years and i can say its easy not to meet someone now i meet people who have been playing longer than me for the first time.
And as for finding out who the better is i doubt thatwill make a difrence to other people because your still both great writers.
So far ive read some amzaing stories from you and some dry one.
Peronaly to me you two are the top writers here.
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Blasphemy! Down with Quitarias!
All hail Mooney, the true master of the written word!
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Well, I had my name changed by a GM halfway through, from Shanra Dragonbite, whom I really didn't use much, and then I used an Alt too, Norethen Stonedriver. (Used him in the story as well, partially.) So maybe that's why.
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Possibly, but I never heard of those two, either.
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Huh. I never seen you, or even some main characters on the forums either, such as Coneitic, Peacer, (I know they both left a short while ago, but I talked to them ingame.), and more. Yliakum is a large place, and I spend my time in many of the remote corners, searching for hidden secrets or such. Also doing quests, and hanging out at the Bronze Doors. Maybe thats why.
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Parallo, read the new section of my Garris Shrike stories, I think I did a much better job on it. I know there are questions to be asked, and criticisms to be had, but I think I spent some more thought on this one. My ikkle baby is coming to fruition! Phinehas, are you going to post a new story anytime soon? I enjoy reading your works, and it's nice to see you after your prolonged absence that my errant post ended.
Anyways, anyone that does not have the time to write, send your story ideas to me or another great writer, and I will try to make at least a short story out of em, if they are imaginative enough. :thumbup: (What made you decide to come back, Phin?)
P.S.
Don't look at my horrid attempts at drawing, they disgrace us all. :-[