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Title: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Karyuu on March 11, 2007, 08:50:42 pm
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As always we here at the PlaneShift realize that a game is nothing without its community! We are lucky to have such great people surrounding this game already, so we are going to be holding bi-weekly Guild Spotlights to let newcomers know what guilds are out there.

Getting the spotlight is done via voting, split into two one-week sessions. First, send a private message:


When the week is up, the nominations for each guild will be made into a poll and you can then vote for all the possible choices. You cannot nominate your own guild, and a guild cannot be chosen twice in the same year – there is a very large number of many good organizations and they should all be given the chance.

When a guild gets the spotlight, the leader will get an in-depth interview, giving you the chance to learn about the guild’s path to success, their structure and management model, inspirations, and their failures and struggles. There are both in-character and out-of-character components: in-character because above all we need to get a feel for the guild from an inside source, and out-of-character because at the end, we are all players with the same goal – to have fun!

The spotlight thread will be stickied for two weeks in this forum section, and given a permanent page on hydlaa.com, so consider it some very good publicity if you are chosen! ;)

Also feel free to use this thread for discussion of the idea :)
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Idoru on March 11, 2007, 09:24:48 pm
some thoughts that jump to mind.

I can imagine that players will use alts, alt accounts, alliances and any possible method they can think of to get their guild the excellent advertising this would offer. How do you plan to see if they even have an in game character when they vote?

I can also see some people trying to make a joke out of it, maybe by nominating the latest 'soon to die' guild just to hasten their collapse when people see the interview.

What would happen if the leader of a guild was banned from the forums? that might be an interesting occurance ;)

Anyway, im sure you have thought about such things. :)
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Karyuu on March 11, 2007, 09:32:18 pm
Good concerns to voice :)

As people cannot register and send PMs automatically, they will have to stick around and make at least 10 contributions to the forum. It will cut out some of those too lazy to make the effort. Second, I could ask for each nomination to include the name of your character - and this I can check in a split second. Is there a chance alts will still be used? Definitely - but if I see some guild receive many nominations from characters I have never seen, and I check their in-game time and it turns out to be less than an hour each, I will put the nominations under investigation, and the guild on hold. Is that a bit better?

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I can also see some people trying to make a joke out of it, maybe by nominating the latest 'soon to die' guild just to hasten their collapse when people see the interview.

That's not a worry I share. I think people will take this opportunity more for what it is.

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What would happen if the leader of a guild was banned from the forums?

If the leader is banned from the game, the guild cannot be chosen for obvious reasons. A ban from the forums however does not affect this.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Nurahk on March 11, 2007, 09:33:11 pm
I think we can trust on the community to not be too dishonest about this.  And with only being able to be nominated once a year, I don't think it should matter.

What about organizations though, like the Dark Empire.  Can the IIA be nominated? or does it count as DE?

Please say it's seperate :P
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Karyuu on March 11, 2007, 09:35:00 pm
An umbrella organization like the DE would not count by itself, but its separate branches would, and can all be nominated on their own.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: bilbous on March 11, 2007, 09:40:01 pm
Bi-weekly means a 26 guild cycle minimum doesn't it? Isn't it possible the spotlight will go out before the first guild becomes eligible for a second turn? Hopefully that will not happen. How many official guilds are there?
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Nurahk on March 11, 2007, 09:41:18 pm
4 from the Empire. \o/

Well, soon.

Much more than 26 in all, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Karyuu on March 11, 2007, 09:42:21 pm
There are at least 30 (closer to 40) guilds I know are active from our current stickied Guild List, and more are popping up all the time :] I don't think we're going to run out of material.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: emeraldfool on March 11, 2007, 09:54:16 pm
Bi-weekly means a 26 guild cycle minimum doesn't it? Isn't it possible the spotlight will go out before the first guild becomes eligible for a second turn? Hopefully that will not happen. How many official guilds are there?

I can't think of all that many big active Guilds I see in game. Maybe 10 at the most. Not including the ones who don't even use these forums that much...
(Edit: Or not :P But most of the Guilds in the sticky I've never heard of, let alone seen in action...)



And hate to be the Guild that gets its spotlight during Christmas, or Easter, or one of those other holidays nobodies around for...



But personally I don't see how this would generate more interest than the regular Guild Threads. Most of the people who'd care the most are already devoted to certain guilds already...
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Parallo on March 11, 2007, 10:02:58 pm
I think it's a great idea. i wondered about that name when I saw it registered. I had no idea it was official though. I'd have expected some capital letters :P
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Karyuu on March 12, 2007, 01:02:18 am
I can't think of all that many big active Guilds I see in game. Maybe 10 at the most. Not including the ones who don't even use these forums that much...
(Edit: Or not :P But most of the Guilds in the sticky I've never heard of, let alone seen in action...)

And aren't you just dying to see this change? (http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6632/grinby0.gif) Particimapate, folks! It'll be really fun :]
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Robinmagus on March 12, 2007, 02:15:15 am
I like the idea! Good job Karyuu. Helping the community as always.  \\o// 

 I'll vote.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Sangwa on March 13, 2007, 12:20:07 am
Looks amazing Karyuu!

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You cannot nominate your own guild, and a guild cannot be chosen twice in the same year – there is a very large number of many good organizations and they should all be given the chance.

Good thing there's more than one Imperialist Guild to vote on then! *evil laughter*
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Allive on March 13, 2007, 04:21:08 pm
any non-enki that dont vote for the H'okyba da ojaveda for first is gonna die *insert laugh here* no but seriosly this might actualy be a good idea still sceptical of how its getting done. Also i feal this might just pormot the makeing of guild for the hell of it i know of a few guilds that have put a lot of thought into and aint as active as they once use to be as well *points to protectors amongst others*.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Idoru on March 13, 2007, 04:32:33 pm
Good thing there's more than one Imperialist Guild to vote on then! *evil laughter*

That brings me back to the point I made about alliances, are the DE guilds allowed to vote for each other?
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Sangwa on March 13, 2007, 05:49:08 pm
The spotlight is here for us to see more deeply into guilds we are interested in. Imperial Guilds are very different from each other, so it's normal that even some imperialists will want to vote on them.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: emeraldfool on March 13, 2007, 06:44:45 pm
The spotlight is here for us to see more deeply into guilds we are interested in. Imperial Guilds are very different from each other, so it's normal that even some imperialists will want to vote on them.

Yeah, but wouldn't Imperialists have a pre-disposition to vote for Imperial guilds? I mean, if a Imperial Scholar has a choice between the Intelligence Agency - which very badly wants the spotlight, hypothetically - and some other guild, wouldn't they most likely choose the Agency? (i.e. without giving much thought to any other guild)
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Parallo on March 13, 2007, 06:49:27 pm
I offended that you would think so little of me. I'll vote for the guild that I feel deserves it. If that happens to be an imperial guild, stopping me is tantamount to saying anyone that wants to vote for this imperial guild isn't allowed to vote.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: emeraldfool on March 13, 2007, 06:55:29 pm
I offended that you would think so little of me. I'll vote for the guild that I feel deserves it. If that happens to be an imperial guild, stopping me is tantamount to saying anyone that wants to vote for this imperial guild isn't allowed to vote.

The Dark Empire demands loyalty and allegiance, right? Even to the point that it is one of their rules that you must advertise them in your signature?

Why would that allegiance suddenly disappear completely? Surely you would have some inherent desire to see a part of your organization flourish?
If nothing else, you would at least be more exposed to them than any other guild...
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Parallo on March 13, 2007, 07:00:03 pm
I'd OOCly like to see guilds that I like flourish. ICly I'm totally loyal.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: emeraldfool on March 13, 2007, 07:08:07 pm
I'd OOCly like to see guilds that I like flourish. ICly I'm totally loyal.

OOCly you're not loyal at all? Because loyalty is a pre-disposition, whether you're aware of it effecting your decision or not...
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Parallo on March 13, 2007, 07:09:49 pm
Its not like I'd make huge OOC sacrifices for the Empire but Parallo would IC. Get it?
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Idoru on March 13, 2007, 07:12:17 pm
Did I misread the 1st post or is there some reason people have to presume this is in character?
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Karyuu on March 13, 2007, 07:14:07 pm
Hey guys, take a moment to breathe.

Guilds in alliances and guilds under an umbrella organization are allowed to vote for one another. If for example we have a large alliance of a great number of guilds and none of them are allowed to support one another in this spotlight, it might leave them with very little, and with choices they may not actually support.

If you are concerned that all the people in the 2 guilds of DE will vote for their third and their numbers will overcome anyone else, why don't you inspire other people to send their own nominations? I can tell you right now, so far participation is disappointing.

Idoru: This voting itself is OOC. Part of the interview with the winning guild will be IC, and I request character names be sent with nominations for the reasons I stated in one of my previous posts :]
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Parallo on March 13, 2007, 08:07:53 pm
He assumed that I was loyal to the DE in rl I think. Thats where it came from.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Easton on March 13, 2007, 08:52:33 pm
Great idea Karyuu...

Can;t wait to learn about some of the guilds i don't know much about. :D

Easton
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: emeraldfool on March 13, 2007, 10:13:27 pm
Question: When you say "character name", do mean any character, or your main character, or your favourite character, or what?
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Karyuu on March 13, 2007, 10:16:40 pm
Send a private message:

  • to the user “guildspotlight
  • with your nomination
  • and your own character name

This is to prevent people from registering extra forum accounts in order to throw in nominations. Creating extra characters is still possible, but as I said: if I see several characters I have never heard of before nominate the same guild and all of their in-game time turns out to be less than an hour, chances are something is up and I will put the nominations on hold to investigate it further.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: emeraldfool on March 13, 2007, 10:38:29 pm
Send a private message:

  • to the user “guildspotlight
  • with your nomination
  • and your own character name

This is to prevent people from registering extra forum accounts in order to throw in nominations. Creating extra characters is still possible, but as I said: if I see several characters I have never heard of before nominate the same guild and all of their in-game time turns out to be less than an hour, chances are something is up and I will put the nominations on hold to investigate it further.

So I should give you one of my characters I played with for longer than an hour then...? :P
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Karyuu on March 13, 2007, 10:38:59 pm
I said characters I never heard of before :P
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: emeraldfool on March 13, 2007, 10:44:54 pm
Since when have you heard of my characters? :innocent:
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Phinehas on March 13, 2007, 11:50:41 pm
When you pm her you're doing it from your account.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Sangwa on March 19, 2007, 07:31:47 pm
We demand more participation now! Or we won't try to come up with nice ideas ever again and you'll all be left to perish in a void of boredom. Notify your friends and guild mates!
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Easton on March 20, 2007, 11:27:25 pm
/me puts on a "I voted" pin and walks away

Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: lordraleigh on March 21, 2007, 06:07:26 am
*Annera puts a message with a vote in a ballot[or in whatever is used] and walks away wondering about something
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Gharan on March 21, 2007, 07:32:50 pm
/me folds a piece of paper, places it into the ballot box and walksaway.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Karyuu on March 21, 2007, 07:39:34 pm
Please make sure you are sending the PMs to the right account, guys! Not me or Sangwa.

Two more days to vote! :]
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Idoru on March 21, 2007, 07:42:28 pm
/me gets paranoid that he sent his vote to the wrong account.
/me gets curious who of those named above prompted Karyuu's post ;oP
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Gharan on March 21, 2007, 07:43:43 pm
I have a habit of only flicking through threads  X-/
/me votes again and this time puts it in the right box.

You can PM any jokes Idoru  :whistling:
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Idoru on March 21, 2007, 07:45:56 pm
HAHAHAHA.
/me thinks of a joke that he shouldnt say

;)
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Sangwa on March 21, 2007, 07:57:01 pm
Are you guys sure you've warned your friends to vote? It's a lot more fun when there's a big number of people interested. Please spread the word in-game as well! Like Karyuu said, only 2 more days remaining!
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Karyuu on March 23, 2007, 06:17:42 pm
Midnight GMT, March 23rd has come - so voting for the first round has now ended :] Thank you to everyone who participated!

Would you guys like the nominations revealed (just the guilds and the number that voted for them) or take it straight to the winner?

Nominations for the next round start today and end on April 6th!
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Idoru on March 23, 2007, 06:19:53 pm
I would personally like to see the 'chart positions' would be good to see who is going to be picked next :)
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: lordraleigh on March 23, 2007, 07:42:42 pm
I would personally like to see the 'chart positions' would be good to see who is going to be picked next :)

Same here, for me a full result chart with all votes would be nice for statistical use.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: shorty13 on March 23, 2007, 09:18:08 pm
nah that may just create more competition and bragging between guilds and it would take the spotlight off of the winning guild
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Narure on March 23, 2007, 09:20:27 pm
It would still be interesting to know what guilds were in the running. It would certainly show the fairness of the spotlight if we could see the diversity of the guilds that were voted for.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Phinehas on March 23, 2007, 10:19:00 pm
Perhpas just showing the top three guilds with the number of votes, rather than listing every single guild that may have gotten a vote.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Gharan on March 23, 2007, 10:31:32 pm
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Perhpas just showing the top three guilds with the number of votes, rather than listing every single guild that may have gotten a vote.

I agree with that, top three sounds like a good way of announcing the votes.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Idoru on March 23, 2007, 11:02:51 pm
From the remarks about non-participation that may well be the whole chart ;)
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Karyuu on March 24, 2007, 05:59:01 am
Man, Idoru's right on :P There was no top 3 this time, so I can't reveal more than one without revealing them all. There isn't going to be any harm, however. Just take a look yourself:

Winning Guild (to be revealed on Sunday) - 6

Imperial Intelligence Agency - 1
Knights of the Crystal - 1
Knowledge Seekers - 1
Nomothetes - 1
Plakkem Hverrjanor - 1
Sheeples - 1
Survivors of Vaern - 1
The Enlightened - 1
The Explorers - 1
The Organization - 1
The Outlaws - 1

Totaling in 17 votes altogether.

This brings up an interesting issue: what if in future rounds no guild gets more than one nomination..? It would be a depressing thing to see, since it would mean really bad participation, but I suppose it'd be good to have some sort of established plan for such. What do you guys think? My first idea is to have the voting closed for any new nominations, post the names of the guilds that have been voted in already, and allow 2-3 days for people who did not vote before to PM in their choices.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Gharan on March 24, 2007, 06:03:09 am
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Sheeples - 1
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The Enlightened - 1

Both of my guilds got a vote.  :thumbup:

Only 17 votes though? Come on guys 'n' gals writing a quick PM isn't task of the week.  :P
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: bilbous on March 24, 2007, 06:10:04 am
Have the nominated guilds' masters roll off d100 in ancient RP tradition.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: lordraleigh on March 24, 2007, 06:13:25 am
Have the nominated guilds' masters roll off d100 in ancient RP tradition.

LOL, The Legendary 100-sided die! (Not so legendary :P )

(http://dicepool.com/catalog/images/kop00391.jpg)

By the way, I am having my guesses about the winner...

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I've changed my idea. It should be a 10,000 sided dice (http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/10_2c000_20sided_20dice), not a "simple" d100
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Idoru on March 24, 2007, 08:56:15 am
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Nomothetes - 1

Whoooooooooo? (in the style of Marc Riley  ;D)

[EDIT]

I just realised something, now that we know who didnt win, at least 6 people know who did win, because their vote is not listed on that chart. I assume that now their guilds know now, and most likely their friends. So, im feeling left out because I know my vote didnt win, one of you 6, could you please PM me :P
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Phinehas on March 24, 2007, 10:04:11 am
I know who won.

I just felt the need to express that.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Idoru on March 24, 2007, 10:15:06 am
/me mumbles a rude word aimed at Phinehas

Well, I think we all know that it is out of a possible 3 guilds, considering that the 'other one' must have been a random vote and id guess the winners votes were well organised. Maybe im just being my usual cynical self ::|
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Sangwa on March 24, 2007, 11:50:01 am
I know who won too. But that's because I can see it, not because I can vote. Because I really can't.

Just wait for the result of this Guild Spotlight and see if you like it. Complaining before you have seen the result is a little distasteful, specially because you have no reasons for it. And I'm sure you'll enjoy reading the interview!

*grins* Start voting right now! And this time warn as much people as you can. Since you don't know which guild has been nominated yet, we will return your vote back in case you've picked it again. So just vote away without worries! Following the rules on the first post of course.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Narure on March 24, 2007, 01:26:04 pm
I can see this turning into buskershift where everyone goes around saying "and if you enjoyed this RP please donate a vote for my guild in the guild spotlight." And i didn't vote this time because i really didnt know who to vote for  :-[
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Sangwa on March 24, 2007, 01:48:25 pm
*grins* That wouldn't be that bad either. Since each guild is voted only one time. So if each guild would start doing events to be voted, it would actually be fun. And each of those guilds would most surely get its place on the spotlight, sooner or later.

I can't see why people would go through all that effort though! It's an interview, it's not like we're handing candy! It's just a fun way of having people getting to know the guilds they take more interest in. Hardly a competition! Or worthy to be competing for :P.

And that's why it's called "Guild Spotlight" and not "Top 5 Guilds". And that's why there's an interview, and not prizes. The guild with more votes is simply the guild that people want to know better.

So it's simple! Choose a guild you would like to know more about!
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: lordraleigh on March 26, 2007, 01:42:17 am
I know who won too. But that's because I can see it, not because I can vote. Because I really can't.

Just wait for the result of this Guild Spotlight and see if you like it. Complaining before you have seen the result is a little distasteful, specially because you have no reasons for it. And I'm sure you'll enjoy reading the interview!

Eh? My guess was right after all. "Any Imperial guild except for the Intel Agency"
/me wonders if the members of other DE guilds are most of the ones who voted on the guild that got the spotlight

By the way, being in the spotlight(In-character) is not necessarily a good thing(keywords: Really secret guilds)

Anyway... time for IC lobbying and offering tria in exchange for votes to other characters  :devil: (BTW a politic system with lobbies would be interesting... $$$)

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That wouldn't be that bad either. Since each guild is voted only one time. So if each guild would start doing events to be voted, it would actually be fun. And each of those guilds would most surely get its place on the spotlight, sooner or later.

When will the tribes system be available? August of this year perhaps? Or Sooner(TM)?
It will open space for events. But I don't see this as a competition, still, if there would be in the future an allegiance of 15 guilds with several active members on these forums, wouldn't it be easy for this allegiance to manipulate results for their own benefit?

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So it's simple! Choose a guild you would like to know more about!

I would say I am really interested on a "unvoluntary declassification" of IIA "sensitive" files by a disappointed whistleblower In-character :D

--- But if next guild is Imperial Guard or the Intel, I'm going to suggest to block 2 or more guilds from the same umbrella organization from being in the spotlight in a row, as I think it needs to be diversified.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: Nurahk on March 26, 2007, 04:40:30 am

Imperial Intelligence Agency - 1


Atleast somebody had their head in the right place :P
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Concept Thread
Post by: lordraleigh on March 26, 2007, 04:45:05 am

Imperial Intelligence Agency - 1


Atleast somebody had their head in the right place :P

Covert Ops being in the Spotlight?  ???
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Nurahk on March 26, 2007, 04:50:18 am
Of course, covert ops works best through fear.

People expecting to be infiltrated work slower.  The more publicity the IIA gets the more fear ensues.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Sangwa on March 26, 2007, 02:35:43 pm
The IIA is an imperial agency that has a public purpose as well. It makes available services for the community, like those a private detective would often have to offer. It's an organization with much to show.
The Imperial Guard isn't a guild yet. It's a project until we have 5 members. Unlike some other guilds, we don't recur to using alts.

Still, that's hardly the topic around here.

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By the way, being in the spotlight(In-character) is not necessarily a good thing(keywords: Really secret guilds)
Keep in mind we don't force the interview on people.

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It will open space for events. But I don't see this as a competition, still, if there would be in the future an allegiance of 15 guilds with several active members on these forums, wouldn't it be easy for this allegiance to manipulate results for their own benefit?
I don't think  you make a point here. You can currently ask anyone you want to vote for you, be that person on an alliance with you or simply a friend. Since you won't know who voted on who, it won't make a difference, since you won't be able to enforce it.
Please refrain from insulting mine or Karyuu's integrity as moderators. Rest assured that we have better things to do then concentrating our efforts of having the Explorers and Imperial Guilds winning every guild spotlight.

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But if next guild is Imperial Guard or the Intel, I'm going to suggest to block 2 or more guilds from the same umbrella organization from being in the spotlight in a row, as I think it needs to be diversified.
One of the problem would be if there are guilds present in more than one alliance / umbrella organization. It would be unfair to them... I say we keep things as they are and see what happens for the next round!
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Idoru on March 26, 2007, 03:18:58 pm
I dont honestly think that any one here was insulting the integrity of either Karyuu or yourself.

I think they made a very good point, that being:

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wouldn't it be easy for this allegiance to manipulate results for their own benefit?

The answer to this is an obvious 'yes'. I think it is a signifigant possibility that this will happen and is a valid concern, one that I also share.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Sangwa on March 26, 2007, 06:21:35 pm
I didn't say you were insulting. I asked you not to. Different things.

I dont honestly think that any one here was insulting the integrity of either Karyuu or yourself.

I think they made a very good point, that being:

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wouldn't it be easy for this allegiance to manipulate results for their own benefit?

The answer to this is an obvious 'yes'. I think it is a significant possibility that this will happen and is a valid concern, one that I also share.

Again I will repeat this: It's easy for anyone to ask their friends, be they part of an alliance or not, to vote on their guild. This does not pose much of trouble because people asking will have no way to know if their members/friends did actually vote or not, which will allow anyone to vote as they wish and ignore the pleadings of their allies or friends if they want to.
And like I've told, prohibiting allies to vote on allies would be unfair for guilds present in more than one alliance and for the members of that alliance, since it could all of them with few choices.

Please take the time to read things carefully. This has been stated already by Karyuu and myself.

EDIT: Made the text more comprehensible.

Let's try to see how things work on the next round! If we have plenty of votes I'm sure the outcome will entertain even more people.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Idoru on March 26, 2007, 08:33:26 pm
It wasnt an issue with comprehension, I just happen to disagree with what you said, but nevermind.

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I didn't say you were insulting. I asked you not to. Different things.

Hmm, ok. That will be my only comment on that quote.

Anyway, il just let it drop now. We arent getting anywhere even approaching constructive.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: lordraleigh on March 27, 2007, 04:44:08 am
First let me reply to something:

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Please refrain from insulting mine or Karyuu's integrity as moderators. Rest assured that we have better things to do then concentrating our efforts of having the Explorers and Imperial Guilds winning every guild spotlight.

I didn't make any reference on what you just wrote there, I just suggested that guilds that are part of a larger [Organization] shouldn't appear in sequence on the spotlight to add some variety and that some people exploiting the spotlight may be a possibility.

Not that it matters much anyway, as promoting a guild IC during gameplay is 99,99% more effective than posting on forums to attract new members(At least from my experience). The online content(guild-made forum and website, not PS Forum directly) may aid on keeping people inside the guild, but otherwise the real deal happens in game.

Only time will tell whether the objections I had will or not have meaning.

For now I think the best option is to expand this idea to the point nobody will ever be able to influence results due to a simply too large amount of people voting. Once we have 100-200 people voting here(perhaps even 50 would be enough), then there will be no reason to put such possibilities in check and the possibility of complaints will go down as well.

Perhaps adding a link to the guild spotlight on our forum signatures could help promoting it here to other users?
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Sangwa on March 27, 2007, 08:37:08 am
First let me reply to something:

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Please refrain from insulting mine or Karyuu's integrity as moderators. Rest assured that we have better things to do then concentrating our efforts of having the Explorers and Imperial Guilds winning every guild spotlight.

I didn't make any reference on what you just wrote there, I just suggested that guilds that are part of a larger [Organization] shouldn't appear in sequence on the spotlight to add some variety and that some people exploiting the spotlight may be a possibility.
Obviously you weren't able to follow my line of thought. Doesn't matter. Asking for something shouldn't bother anyone :P.


For now I think the best option is to expand this idea to the point nobody will ever be able to influence results due to a simply too large amount of people voting. Once we have 100-200 people voting here(perhaps even 50 would be enough), then there will be no reason to put such possibilities in check and the possibility of complaints will go down as well.
Agreed.

Perhaps adding a link to the guild spotlight on our forum signatures could help promoting it here to other users?
Nice idea.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Natrina on March 28, 2007, 02:47:57 am
Quote from: lordraleigh
For now I think the best option is to expand this idea to the point nobody will ever be able to influence results due to a simply too large amount of people voting. Once we have 100-200 people voting here(perhaps even 50 would be enough), then there will be no reason to put such possibilities in check and the possibility of complaints will go down as well.

 Exactly. Though I think it's a bit silly to say that there's a negative thing in "[Organizations]" and their conditioning of the votes. First, because this is supposed to be a democratic-like system and what's the rule behind democracy? The majority wins. Now, if the majority was imperialists, too bad, that seems to show we're making more use of this then others. If you're saying that because we're imperialists we'll vote in Empire-related guilds well, duh. We're members of an organization because we want to, we're members of something that is a part of an organization because we want to and we comply to the expectations (even if the organization may not, in reality, have such expectations, as, for example, Sangwa made it clear in our forums that we should vote in what we want to see and not specifically in a imperialist guild) of the organization because we want to. Wanting to, freedom to do so or not, that's also a basic value of democracy.

 Anyway, I was the first to be interviewed so it wasn't that fun for me, didn't get to know better any other guild. I'm putting my bets (and my vote) on the next one so it'll be something good to read.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Gharan on March 28, 2007, 02:58:45 am
So, are votes being taken on the second "Guild Spotlight" yet?

EDIT: Nevermind I seen the edit on the first page, I only hope we get more participation this time.  :)

Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: lordraleigh on March 28, 2007, 04:29:27 am
Exactly. Though I think it's a bit silly to say that there's a negative thing in "[Organizations]" and their conditioning of the votes. First, because this is supposed to be a democratic-like system and what's the rule behind democracy? The majority wins.

It is our luck that "leet" guilds with mass-recruitment and 50-100 members rarely participate in these forums then.

Sadly the majority of MMO gamers aren't roleplayers, of course there are ways to kick the worst of "leetness" off  :devil:
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Allive on March 30, 2007, 05:14:22 am
hmm so who did win then ? kinda sad how the hokyba da ojaveda never got a vote although i supose that the price was pay for mainly being based in oja and a lot of our members being there a lot of the time oh well.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Karyuu on March 30, 2007, 05:22:42 am
There's a stickied Guild Spotlight thread with the winner:

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When a guild gets the spotlight, the leader will get an in-depth interview, giving you the chance to learn about the guild’s path to success, their structure and management model, inspirations, and their failures and struggles. [...]

The spotlight thread will be stickied for two weeks in this forum section, and given a permanent page on hydlaa.com [...]

*edit*

About two more days for voting in this second round, guys! There are people in this forum who are considered regulars, who frequent the guild section, but are for some reason not participating in this forum event. Participation is even worse than the first round! When we are giving you opportunities to have fun and engage in a community-wide activity but you are not playing with us, you are not only hurting our feelings, you are wasting all our time. If this endeavor fails, it will be on your heads and you will carry the full blame, as a community, for being inanimate and uninspired. A lot of us work quite hard to bring you fun toys to play with. If we see that they are not being used, we will not only take them away, but hesitate to give you any more in the future.

This is not the first time that a community event on the board like this has belly flopped, so I am quite irritated.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Narure on April 05, 2007, 08:23:39 pm
Prehaps ask the community what they want to save yourself such effort, just put the ideas forward and if people say they like them they are pretty much obliged to use them. To be honest there are hardly any guilds i look up to and want to know more about that i cant find out ingame anyway. Its a nice idea but i think the number of guilds should be built up and maybe the GMs could focus on helping guilds improve in quality by having powers to help with their RPs and maybe have a few rewards for a guild being well organised and meeting its goals (as long as they are IC goals) for the guild. There isnt any particular incentive to vote or try and be voted for with this. I'm more than certain the community apreciates the effort and I'm also certain there are benifits of this I just fail to see.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Karyuu on April 05, 2007, 09:39:01 pm
The resposnes in this thread have all been positive, so I am mystifyied as to why participation is so awful. If there are any suggestions forum members would like to make, please make them - I am more than willing to listen, discuss, and encourage. But I'm not feeling any life here, and it disappoints me.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Narure on April 05, 2007, 09:52:54 pm
Well people seem to be imspired by pretty sigs. Maybe have a editors choice type thing where you say what you think of certain guilds to get the ball rolling. Possibaly make it so people can say who they have voted for and why to try and up pacipitaion?
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: lordraleigh on April 05, 2007, 10:02:12 pm
About what @Narure said...

     I do not agree with having guild advantages in the form of unique items among other in-game things as it will turn this Spotlight into a heavy competition, besides being completely OOC. It's not what I fancy GMs giving rewards to guilds that "meet their objectives", specially due to the fact many RP-based guilds have objectives that aren't quite achievable with the currently avaliable game systems of this alpha release, and in fact will encourage people seeking objectives like "Kill 10 Ulbernauts", "Mine lots of gold to get 500k" and the like for their guilds, crumbling into a never seen before level of mediocrity.

     Finally, GM supporting exclusively a single guild? Events already are done sparsely due to the lack of time/matching timezones, and now they will happen only to a single guild for a determinated timeframe while the rest of the community remains dry on GM Events? I do not think so. If there are going to be advantages for those that come to the spotlight, they should definitively be OOC and out-of-game ones.

     And lastly this may open space for biased "rewardings" of guilds as well, as we humans are prone to be influenced by such things, one way or another, and sometimes they just happen.

Well people seem to be imspired by pretty sigs. Maybe have a editors choice type thing where you say what you think of certain guilds to get the ball rolling. Possibaly make it so people can say who they have voted for and why to try and up pacipitaion?

An "Editor's Choice" perhaps is a good idea, if handled by people that are expected to have a higher NPOV than most(mature people with "unguilded" characters in dev team perhaps). Making it in a way people have say who they have voted for and why is something that won't fix anything at all, what really is needed is larger numbers of people voting.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Narure on April 05, 2007, 10:44:08 pm
Well i was just brain storming so I'm glad you looked at the ideas constructivly. The idea behind the saying why you voted for a certain guild would be that it may inspire people to vote. I wasnt saying that those things in my post before my last wouldnt be rewards but an idea to help guilds in ways other than the spot light. So helping RPs if requested would just be something that could be added because at the moment GMs cant interfere with player RPs for some reason but if a guild were to ask for assitance maybe it could be given which im sure would encourage guilds to RP more.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: LARAGORN on April 05, 2007, 11:23:35 pm
The resposnes in this thread have all been positive, so I am mystifyied as to why participation is so awful. If there are any suggestions forum members would like to make, please make them - I am more than willing to listen, discuss, and encourage. But I'm not feeling any life here, and it disappoints me.

Too many guilds, too many choices.

One suggestion I have is to have PM nominations, once you have, lets say 5 guilds nominated, create a poll.
People will have a defined selection to vote from. The spotlight guild will then be exempt from the next voting cycles.

You could also randomly pick 5 active guilds to include in the poll, so each guild has an equal chance of being selected.

There were 17 votes in the last spotlight, that is only a few more than the number of posters in this thread. I dont think enough people know about this. Maybe throw up a parchment on the bullitin boards, send a town cryer out to inform the non-regular forum members.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Karyuu on April 06, 2007, 06:58:35 pm
Thanks Laragorn, I definitely need a way to give better incentives to people to participate :)

Let's see how this works, as there are two guilds tied with the same amount of votes. Before I go on with the decided "open poll" option, are there any immediate suggestions on how to make this more interesting to you guys?
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Ralleyon on April 06, 2007, 09:39:50 pm
I agree, a poll is much better to use than the current system. This is what I see as the main deterrent - 1) the non-obviousness of the guilds on vote and 2) the means of voting.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: bilbous on April 06, 2007, 09:50:33 pm
Or just put all the guildnames in a hat and randomly draw the one to spotlight.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Garile on April 10, 2007, 01:29:51 pm
hmmm I like the first interview :) Very much Natrina ;)
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Sangwa on April 12, 2007, 04:51:07 pm
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I agree, a poll is much better to use than the current system. This is what I see as the main deterrent - 1) the non-obviousness of the guilds on vote and 2) the means of voting.
It's indeed unfortunate that people have to be told what to do.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: bilbous on April 12, 2007, 07:01:25 pm
It might have been nice if all nominated guilds had been an option in the voting, so at least people could see which there is interest in. Maybe it was thought to take up too much space, but at least it would have put guild leaders on notice that their turn might be immanent.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Karyuu on April 12, 2007, 08:40:00 pm
The other guilds will be revealed when the winning one is chosen. They're not in the poll because the poll is only a tie-breaker, it's not a method of choosing from all the submitted nominations.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Vexonee on April 13, 2007, 04:56:50 am
I think the concepts is a good idea.

Suggestions for getting the word out or reminding others, making a note in the MoTD, or possibly flashing "Don't forget to vote in the guild spotlight..." in the system tab every once in a while when players login.  I still read the message there when I login.

Another aside, I need more posts to vote as I'm not allowed PM's yet and sadly thinking about who you wish to vote for doesn't count.  :)
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Gharan on April 13, 2007, 06:32:57 am
I only just put my vote in for round 2  :-[

I seen it's now down to 2, was it a split decision that will be decided on by a vote or did something else happen?
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Karyuu on April 13, 2007, 06:39:30 am
Let's see how this works, as there are two guilds tied with the same amount of votes.

Explained that here and in the poll thread :) The poll is a tie-breaker.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Gharan on April 13, 2007, 06:43:47 am
Well two great choices i'd look forward to hearing the interview from either leader. More so the Sheeples for some reason as i'd expect maybe just a small amount of the interview to be humerous. I've always found the daily doings of a Sheeple both interesting and hilarious depending on the character.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Karyuu on April 13, 2007, 10:47:09 pm
Aside finding ways to advertise the spotlight further, it looks like polls are better received. So how's this: you get one week to send in nominations by PM again, and at the end all the nominations are put into a poll, which is going to be held for another week. The number of PM nominations isn't going to matter this time, although do keep in mind that if no one sends in any, there's no voting. So don't worry about sending duplicates. That way the votes are more open to the public and you can see the progress, so you're not being held at a distance as much.

How's the 1-week/1-week timing for you? Would you think making one or the other longer would be better? Any other suggestions you may have as well?
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: miadon on April 13, 2007, 10:51:07 pm
1:1 is fine for me.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Narure on April 13, 2007, 11:01:55 pm
Erm maybe have a list of guilds that have recived a PM vote so if someone sees a guild they would like to see in the poll isnt there, they have incentive to PM.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Karyuu on April 13, 2007, 11:07:48 pm
Right, either me or Sangwa will do that soon :) Mentioned that all the nominations will be revealed before.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Narure on April 13, 2007, 11:10:26 pm
Will there be a cap on the amount of guilds that can be entered in the poll? Not much of a problem now but if this really picks up and people actauly start PMing could lead to mayhem.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Karyuu on April 13, 2007, 11:16:32 pm
There is no limit for poll options - although going over 100 like I just did to check is really ineffective :P I think 20 is a fair maximum, but I really don't want to turn this into a nominations race, and so I'm not sure how to impose a cap at the moment. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Narure on April 13, 2007, 11:19:23 pm
Well just go with the ones that got the most PMs.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Karyuu on April 13, 2007, 11:23:30 pm
What if there are 17 guilds with several votes, then 5 more with a vote of one? Somehow 3 would have to be chosen from that latter group. I think there may be a time for the clear-cut systematic approach to pause - if there are no problems trusting the moderators to do a random choosing at that point (pull names from a hat, etc.) that may be the quickest way to move onto the poll.

*edit*

Alright! Finally got to the other account to count up the nominations :) They are as follows:

Explorers Guild - 2
Imperial Intelligence Agency - 1
Klyros of Fury - 1
Plakkem Hverrjanor - 1
Sheeples - 2
The Crimson Order - 1
The Enlightened -1
The Outlaws - 1
The Survivors of Vaern - 1

For a total of 11.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Raleigh on April 14, 2007, 06:51:55 am
When will the interview with the explorers be posted? Here's my 2 dimes: delay it for its anniversary then ;)
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Nurahk on April 14, 2007, 06:57:03 am
2 dimes?

So your opinion is worth 10 times more than the rest of us? :P

Close race, in the end.  Once more people start voting this is going to get a lot more interesting.  That's just my 2 billion dollar bank accounts.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Allive on April 14, 2007, 07:07:30 am
hmm strange the sheeples a secerate guild and the explorers nearly totaly non existant got the votes yet i was told the hokyba da ojaveda got at least one vote and they aint there i smell something wronge here.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Karyuu on April 14, 2007, 07:11:22 am
The vote for Hokyba was retracted, and the Explorers are a very active and quite prominent guild. Careful of the conclusions you jump to.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Nurahk on April 14, 2007, 07:14:46 am
Added to which, the people who are participating are probably the older players who remember the glory days of the explorers
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Raleigh on April 14, 2007, 08:36:28 am
2 dimes?

So your opinion is worth 10 times more than the rest of us? :P

HAHA, as a non-native English speaker I thought cent = dime  :-[

Here's something: Develop lots of areas, specially of wilderness and ruins with interesting things, and delay their release in game for 1 or 2 years to make a mass-release of new features later, then suddenly the explorers will have lots of things to do in game for a good time.

And as a curiousity, why was the vote for Hokyba retracted? Does it have something that does not qualify it for participating or did the person who voted on it change of opinion?

Added to which, the people who are participating are probably the older players who remember the glory days of the explorers

When was that epoch? 1 or 2 years ago?
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Karyuu on April 14, 2007, 08:39:19 am
And as a curiousity, why was the vote for Hokyba retracted? Does it have something that does not qualify it for participating or did the person who voted on it change of opinion?

The one who submitted the nomination, later sent a PM asking for the vote to be taken back. I know no more :)
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Nurahk on April 14, 2007, 08:41:28 am
Both to be honest.  The explorers are one of those guilds that have spurts of activity every few months.  Added to which, if you want to see an explorer, best place to find them is in the dev channel ;)

Three years ago was their greatest time...just a little under three years...
I've been here too long :P
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Narure on April 14, 2007, 11:54:38 am
What if there are 17 guilds with several votes, then 5 more with a vote of one? Somehow 3 would have to be chosen from that latter group. I think there may be a time for the clear-cut systematic approach to pause - if there are no problems trusting the moderators to do a random choosing at that point (pull names from a hat, etc.) that may be the quickest way to move onto the poll.

Or another idea is to cap it at the 17 in that case? Just brainfarting  >o)
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: bilbous on April 14, 2007, 04:25:45 pm
It is Playoff season, top 6 teams make the cut. If there is a tie for the final positions the tied guild leaders or their champions meet in the PVP room in a sudden death shoot-out - en mass or round robin.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Narure on April 14, 2007, 05:01:00 pm
sounds amazing but i hear calls of ic for ooc on the horizon.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: bilbous on April 14, 2007, 05:29:24 pm
Well just create a sub-section of the RP board: Yliakum Gazette move the actual interviews there, keep OC questions and responses in [ ] but try to keep IC as much as possible. Problem solved!

Maybe once the in-game note making functionality is developed there could be an in-game edition.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Allive on April 15, 2007, 07:59:48 am
active and promonent i have seen perhaps one person from explorers in pat 4 months i wouldnt say that either verry active or promnent.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Karyuu on April 15, 2007, 08:02:46 am
You have seen one, but perhaps you are simply not looking :) The Explorers are an active guild, and I have seen Mordaan in the game just a few minutes ago.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Narure on April 15, 2007, 01:44:03 pm
They tend to boogy in the mountains. Being explorers and all.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Eagel on April 16, 2007, 12:19:17 am
I'm a proud member of The Explorers... well... a recent member, but very proud  \\o//
If you can't see us around Harnquist it doesn't mean that we aren't in-game.
Take a tour at our site (http://www.explorersguild.org)!!
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Karyuu on April 19, 2007, 09:09:48 pm
Everyone got lazy with PMs. I've no choice but to put this on hold until I figure out a way to make people participate.

More likely than not, since the guild forum community isn't interested in choosing, the moderators will make spotlight choices on their own.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Narure on April 19, 2007, 09:19:43 pm
A third round started?! I was waiting to see the latest spotlight before voting again.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: LARAGORN on April 20, 2007, 05:30:30 am
It seems Karyuu that a new form of advertising is needed. Just like Narure, I didnt know the new voting stage had begun.

You did have a much better responce with the polling votes, maybe it would be best if you did select the guilds to vote on. Selecting 5 guilds per voting period would make the whole thing much more player friendly, then everyone could vote without trying to think of a new guild to nominate. A link to each guilds promo thread or website would give us all an easy way to learn of each new candidate.

???
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Raleigh on April 20, 2007, 06:28:53 pm
Not selection then, I would say, put all the names of the guilds that can be nominated inside hollow balls, put them on a bingo machine and start turning it. Also you could make bets with people about which guilds would go on the game, and play a bingo after it.  :thumbup:

Or just make another way of random selection, of course a d100 isn't a very practical idea.

Or much easier, I'll send my nomination hoping it's not too late and you go send yours too.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: bilbous on April 20, 2007, 07:03:25 pm
How about considering past nominations as being up for consideration for subsequent rounds? For the first week a poll for which two nominations should compete in the second weeks poll.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Raleigh on April 21, 2007, 06:23:35 am
How about considering past nominations as being up for consideration for subsequent rounds? For the first week a poll for which two nominations should compete in the second weeks poll.

I would rather see an equal opportunity for everyone, regardless of being nominated before or not. This might make a temporary "exclusive club" of guilds. Just promote it.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Idoru on April 21, 2007, 05:03:47 pm
Maybe you could allow people to vote for their own guild?

This would get rid of the problem of alliances voting for other alliance members (maybe, or most likely, this was just my issue).
It would increase participation because it would get promoted on all guild forums.
The issue with it being spammed by any particular guild would be solved in a couple of months because the most populous guilds would already have been selected and then, either you would be back at the current situation, or, it would have promoted the polls so much that the participation issue would be solved :)
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Sangwa on April 24, 2007, 01:39:28 am
I'm very sorry for the delay of the second interview! April's been a weird month to me. But it's here!
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: bilbous on April 27, 2007, 04:51:37 pm
So what is the deal with round three? Has the project been shelved? Is it in the shop for refit? What's happening?
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Idoru on April 27, 2007, 05:00:01 pm
aye, can we vote again?
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Karyuu on April 27, 2007, 06:20:25 pm
Please do :)

Let's wrap up all the nominations by Friday of next week so we can try again and move onto the public forum poll.
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Suvok on June 23, 2007, 11:53:29 am
Quote from: Elvi in the Guild Spotlight
Q: How about any cool screenshots taken by your guild members?
 Yes there are some we have taken, here's one our old member Skatty took a few months back of me and... me heh:
http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot47iy4.jpg

And here's one of the a Sapere Magi war:
http://theoutlaws.ath.cx/obb/attachments/upload_files/Guild%20Battle.JPG

Pakot in DR:
http://dr.ea.ms/~oldfart/ps/shot28.jpg

Heehee! I can see me, the dwarf in middle!   :D
Oh, and Elvi. I don't recall handing the copyrights for that picture to you. I believe that the photographer has rights as well! ;D
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Raleigh on June 23, 2007, 12:11:48 pm
Quote from: Elvi in the Guild Spotlight
Q: How about any cool screenshots taken by your guild members?
 Yes there are some we have taken, here's one our old member Skatty took a few months back of me and... me heh:
http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot47iy4.jpg

And here's one of the a Sapere Magi war:
http://theoutlaws.ath.cx/obb/attachments/upload_files/Guild%20Battle.JPG

Pakot in DR:
http://dr.ea.ms/~oldfart/ps/shot28.jpg

Heehee! I can see me, the dwarf in middle!   :D
Oh, and Elvi. I don't recall handing the copyrights for that picture to you. I believe that the photographer has rights as well! ;D

Call the MAFIAA (http://www.mafiaa.org/press_room/) and lets move a lawsuit against him for "copyright infringement"  :devil:
Did you patent that screenshot as "Screenieeunique" as well? Because then you can charge royalties of him too. :P
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Elvicat on June 24, 2007, 01:11:14 pm
Quote from: Elvi in the Guild Spotlight
Q: How about any cool screenshots taken by your guild members?
 Yes there are some we have taken, here's one our old member Skatty took a few months back of me and... me heh:
http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shot47iy4.jpg

And here's one of the a Sapere Magi war:
http://theoutlaws.ath.cx/obb/attachments/upload_files/Guild%20Battle.JPG

Pakot in DR:
http://dr.ea.ms/~oldfart/ps/shot28.jpg

Heehee! I can see me, the dwarf in middle!   :D
Oh, and Elvi. I don't recall handing the copyrights for that picture to you. I believe that the photographer has rights as well! ;D

oh whoops :-[ sorry about that, never really crossed my mind, but then again how would i know who to contact about that old pic  ::|
Title: Re: Guild Spotlight: Discussion Thread
Post by: Suvok on June 25, 2007, 02:29:27 pm
Hehe, don't worry, I was only joking  ;D

I'm still annoyed that I hadn't taken the screenshot when I dropped all of the dust-dwarfs around our area.  ;D