PlaneShift
Gameplay => General Discussion => Topic started by: Vashiel Delacoix on March 21, 2007, 09:13:45 am
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I tried to RP on PS last night, and could find no one interested. Most people were either Idlying, or simply treating the game as a generic MMO. I was saddened.
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Try harder. Sometimes it does suck, especially if you happen to be new. But im sure you will find someone who wants to RP with you.
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It happens. TO be honest f you ant to RP all the time you should probably find a text based Mud like Achaea, there is good RP opportunities in that.
Probably the sole reason I'm going to go back there.
I seem to drop in and out, like Create a character RP, adventure get to about level 25 and leave for ages. Character gets deleted, a few months later I start to crave some RP, and i return recreate my character and have some fun until i get bored. Again.
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Welcome to Yliakum and I am sorry to hear you had trouble finding rp some days it can be like that though.
It can also depend on where you were looking, if you char is an enki then it is possible that there wasn't much going on in Oja, the plaza in Hydlaa can either be a good or bad place to start.
A suggestion also remember that as in real life if you just walk up to a group of people and join in you stand the risk of a frosty reception, it is better to stand listening and then if you see a point that fits with your background/story jump in.
I hope you try again and wish you luck
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I tried, and everyone was nice, it was just surprising when people were running around saying things such as "LOL"
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I tried, and everyone was nice, it was just surprising when people were running around saying things such as "LOL"
That is something that irritates me alot aswell. We had a discussion (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=28014.0) about it on these forums recently.
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I understand what your saying in that thread, maybe the game should censor smilies? RP Nazi or not, it is an RP game isnt it?
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Its going over old ground already discussed but the filters would filter all the channels and not just the open channel. I personally think people should learn some self control. But as I say, it was pretty much discussed to death before.
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Hardly everyone who plays planeshift is an RPer. Most of the players running around are either just concerned about leveling up, questing or are still new to the game and trying to find their way around without RP.
Your best chance to find RP is to either go to the Taverns, hang out at Harnquist's or look for specific guilds/players which you know to be roleplayers from the forums. Even when you do this you're bound to meet a lot of new players and players who're just using PS as a chatroom.
However once in a while you'll stumble on a few roleplayers. I hope you won't give up yet and I'm sure that if you keep trying you'll find quite a few people who are practically always interested in roleplaying.
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What Zan said. Plus, if there are Game Masters around be sure to point out to them that there are people that refuse to roleplay. Even if they don't do anything about it, it shows your interest to turn this game into something better.
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Sorry to say but this thread smells like a set-up to go over things for the seventy-third time. I role-play every time I talk to strangers in the game. I ask questions about how things work, where things are and whatever all couched in contextual terms. I do not try to seduce fair lady and get married, use flowery language to show what a leet role player I am or get involved with spurious plots somebody thought up because they like to do stuff such as that and they were bored that day. You do not need anyone else to role play you just need to do what makes sense for your character and interact with the environment you have been given. If you choose to have a character for which nothing has yet been implemented then you are not being very pragmatic and have nobody to blame but yourself.
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Right. If it is a set up, I'm sure you're part of it since you're posting the same thing you've posted in the other 72 posts. *grins*
Roleplaying with people who don't roleplay can be hard. Impossible even. That's at the base of what this person was saying. If you're fine with having your character finding people that say strange stuff like lmao and rofl, fine. If you think we should have roleplayed in Molecular Blue like we were all miners that picked rubies, emeralds and diamonds that sprung from the floor, fine too, I guess. Just don't expect it to be seen as common sense though.
I agree that players can roleplay, to a level, even without a good quality participation from others. You can take advantage of what is around you and drop it into your own context. However it is normal that people request better interaction from other players, and a better approach to what they think is roleplay.
I know this discussion sounds repetitive, but some people can't use search. And that's what I believe you should tell them if you're really annoyed by these. Not perpetuating a conversation you deem as pointless and recurrent.
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I think the original poster was trying to raise valid concerns. And it isnt an alt account of mine :P
Yeah, a search would have been good, but we arent all perfect and people who are new are often less perfect than the rest of us ;)
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Well I admit I haven't been in game a great deal lately, I have been in for 3-4 hours in the last 2-3 days and have heard none of this out of context talk. I'm not saying it doesn't go on, just that I haven't heard it. I haven't spent much time standing around Harnie where I would expect to hear more of it--that being newb central. For the most part, it has been hard for me to get anyone to talk to me, at the mines and the forges, which is fine. I guess it really comes down to where you go and what you do. Is the problem more widespread than just newb central or is it really centered there?
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I'm actually somewhat surprised. I do a lot of lurking, and it seems to me that we're doing fairly well RP-wise. Most of the dialogue I hear is IC, not like 2 years ago when it was mostly OOC.
It's a shame that your experience was different and I hope you keep at it. There are many great RP'ers around, I know this for a fact. It might be a matter of making yourself known to them--it's all too easy to overlook new characters in the assumption that they won't RP.
About contacting a GM,well, un-notated OOC dialogue is discouraged, but there's no rule against it unless it's disruptive. So if someone is OOC and it's disruptive to your RP, and you ask them (nicely!) to stop or leave the general vicinity and they won't, by all means /tell a GM. We'll help any way we can.
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i know that this has be talked about 72 times, but dosent that show a problem? Too be honest i dont think people should -have- to sift through dozens of players to find someone to rp with. Im certain many agree with me
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It depends who you're trying to RP with to be honest. I've had days when I can't get any RP going and days when you can't get away from it. I'd say the most important thing is knowing your audience, having been round a year I pretty much know who will interact with any RP I offer and those who won't. Like I said I have days when I wonder were the RP has gone but suddenly i'll be forced to eat my words as I find someone to RP with. Knowing where most RP's happen is always handy to know. The tavern is a good start and you'll pretty much always find someone round Harnquist as long as you try and don't mind the OOC noob questions that frequent round the smith.
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If you are lacking in RP, grab the nearest lost newbie who seems promising (or even not), and roleplay showing them around the city, point out the dangers, and keep in character while doing it. Perhaps, if they catch on, you will have started a new RPer on his/her path without even knowing it.
I find RP where ever I go, but that is because I bring it with me. :)
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Well, Thank you all, your advice is noted and I thank you. I hope that it will make my gaming more enjoyable :D
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I understand what your saying in that thread, maybe the game should censor smilies? RP Nazi or not, it is an RP game isnt it?
Yes, this is supposed to be an RP game. However, (I have also been implementor in an italian MUD for a couple of years) finding a common definition for what RP is and how to enforce it is extremely hard.
PS as such has, differently from similar games, a decent amount of players who attempt to do some RP, however, the game structure is not promoting it at all (imho) and there is not any serious "police" cleaning up the mess of not doing RP.
Brackets or not, it is also hard to control who says anything and check it out.
When I was implementor of the MUD it was extremely hard to check all the dialogues. I was often spending some time scanning the logs for bad words and often I had to "spy" on players. It was not pleasant, but it was the only way to be semi sure that some sort of atmosphere was respected. It could be good here, to create at least an alternative "NOT RP" channel in game, where people can express their throught without ruining the generic atmosphere.
But, then, it is up the the planners to steer the game toward a certain direction.
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Exactly. I've proposed that a long time a go, an OOC channel/tab. But the response I got was something along the lines of "We can't have an OOC tab because that will encourage OOC conversations while they should be close to non-existant." I did understand what the person meant, and it would make sense if there was some kind of police making sure people were indeed roleplaying and not using the main chat for OOC conversations. Unfortunely no such thing exists yet and we're left with a chaotic main chat that mixes both OOC and IC conversations, because people don't have to care if they roleplay or not.
Planeshift is not, however, lacking roleplay. I know plenty of good roleplayers, and plenty of bad roleplayers as well. But the number of people who refuse to roleplay is getting smaller. I guess that's good.
I find RP where ever I go, but that is because I bring it with me.
This is something required in every roleplayer.