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Support => Mac OSX Specific Issues => Topic started by: Shadallark on June 01, 2007, 11:10:03 pm

Title: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: Shadallark on June 01, 2007, 11:10:03 pm
Good day to all of you!

As I am finding myself with a small amount of time for the next two months and am considering throwing some of it at PlaneShift, and since I am running PlaneShift on a MacBook Pro Dual Intel Core laptop I am interested in any problems that Intel based Mac users are still having getting the game to run on their machines.

Please post here with any problems that you are still experiencing and your system specifications (or better yet let me know that your system specs are listed in the system specs link at the top of this forum).

Have a great day!

Shadallark
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: Madoc on June 02, 2007, 04:02:23 pm
I listed my system specs (page 7). Probably similiar to Yours.

I found it was neccessary to turn off the texture compression. Before I did that, I was having graphical glitches and crashes on various important functions, like trading. Turning compression off fixed that.

Now, the game regularly crashes when I quit. It hangs for about 20 seconds, then the crash window pops up.

Also, the game becomes very slow when I enter some regions. But after a few seconds, it is faster again. I guess that is because of texture caching. Really not an issue for me, because the effect is only temporary. After a short waiting time, the game runs as fast as before.

*edit*

Since I cannot reply to private messages yet, thanks for Your message Shadallark! I believe i found the problem at the same time that You wrote the message to me. That's really fast help!

Besides, the Mac guide and the comments on them confused me a little: It states that I shall run the updater. But the updater currently does not work. In one thread, it says that the updater problem will be fixed soon. In another thread, it says that the updater shall not be run on the Mac at all. Maybe You could clarify this as a note in the guide?

*edit*

A note on the crashes on application quitting: It seems that my configuration in fact WAS saved. But the crashes definitely happen every time I quit.

[ Please avoid making one post right after the other in the same thread. Just "Modify" your first post to add more information. Thanks! --Karyuu ]
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: bizhy on July 20, 2007, 12:48:19 am
I also listed my system specs but they are on page 8 I believe and as said there in the bug section of that forum I cant even get PS to run.  Ive downloaded every file that I could find from both bittorrent and directly from you guys also from that updater way to get the files posted in one of the forums.  Either the files are unrecognizable (the .dmg way) or the .app files wont open at all. Using the updater way i can at least get to the files and when using the updater i keep getting these random error's my updater no matter how many times i run it, idk wat the "error hashing" or the "error updating file psclient.app/Icon
" mean but im guessing thats why it's not running...HELP! the updater looks like this :

Update started at 07/19/2007: 18:45:16
Using mirror 2.
Checking repository version...repository is current
Copying repository
Converting to string...
Copying complete
Compiling list of files to update (this may take a few minutes)...Error hashing psclient.app/Icon
.
Done
Loading file list
Converting to string...
Loading complete
Updating root(0 bytes of data)...Done
Updating data(0 bytes of data)...Done
Updating docs(0 bytes of data)...Done
Updating support(0 bytes of data)...Done
Updating art(0 bytes of data)...Done
Updating Mac-specific files(0 bytes of data)...
Error updating file psclient.app/Icon
Done
Update completed at 07/19/2007: 18:45:30

Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: ponder on July 20, 2007, 02:18:44 am
Good day to all of you!

As I am finding myself with a small amount of time for the next two months and am considering throwing some of it at PlaneShift, and since I am running PlaneShift on a MacBook Pro Dual Intel Core laptop I am interested in any problems that Intel based Mac users are still having getting the game to run on their machines.

Please post here with any problems that you are still experiencing and your system specifications (or better yet let me know that your system specs are listed in the system specs link at the top of this forum).

Have a great day!

Shadallark

You have to be quite specific because I have a 1st Gen Macbook Pro with  Intel Core Duo (not Core 2 Duo) and Mobility Radeon 1600.  The current planeshift binary hangs after I load into the game and attempt to move, then I have to powercycle the system.


Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: bizhy on July 20, 2007, 03:42:45 am
I previously posted on here and like i said before my comp specs are on page 8 of the separate forum asking for them but i got the game to finally install and actually open and updated and everything but now when i try to play it keep getting pssetup_static quit unexpectedly...how do i fix this?
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: Garon on July 20, 2007, 08:20:40 pm
I've been having some problems getting it to work.

It crashes immediately on login with certain characters of mine, and less immediately with others.  Many textures show up as black (it isn't a lighting problem, to my knowledge, but a graphics problem).

When it crashes, it takes the entire computer with it--force quitting isn't an option, I've had to restart the computer several times.

It's a 2Ghz intel dual core, Radeon 1600 graphics card, 1 gb RAM. (If you need more then that, I can provide more, it's what seems necessary.  Messages are useful).
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: Unnamed_Source on July 21, 2007, 09:23:14 am
I suggest you read http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=14416.0 (http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=14416.0) about the PSClientCMD and add fullbright to the start sequence. That will take care of the mapping/texture problems.
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: lakides on July 21, 2007, 10:16:34 am
I've been having some problems getting it to work.

It crashes immediately on login with certain characters of mine, and less immediately with others.  Many textures show up as black (it isn't a lighting problem, to my knowledge, but a graphics problem).

When it crashes, it takes the entire computer with it--force quitting isn't an option, I've had to restart the computer several times.

It's a 2Ghz intel dual core, Radeon 1600 graphics card, 1 gb RAM. (If you need more then that, I can provide more, it's what seems necessary.  Messages are useful).


I Been having the exact same problem with my intel *freezes computer after loading world*
Chaos guide does stat that it only works on Power macs and and mini intel mac. So I guess we other intel users still have to be patient.
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: iriss on July 21, 2007, 07:07:26 pm

When it crashes, it takes the entire computer with it--force quitting isn't an option, I've had to restart the computer several times.

It's a 2Ghz intel dual core, Radeon 1600 graphics card, 1 gb RAM. (If you need more then that, I can provide more, it's what seems necessary.  Messages are useful).

Same here! Experiencing crashes after approximately 2 Minutes! The complete system freezes. My specs are the same as well!
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: Trymm on July 21, 2007, 11:10:58 pm
The current client works nicely on my Macbook:
2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
Intel 950 GMA graphics card.
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: bizhy on July 22, 2007, 02:22:53 am
i found out that if the graphics are all black then get the psclientcmd file and follow the instructions to enable -fullbright and everything should work, i had the same problem and that fixed it for me.
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: Bunnybooze on July 22, 2007, 09:25:23 am
I was having the exact same problems with some textures missing, black backgrounds and such. Tried the -fullbright and everything looks fine now!

Thanks guys!  :D

Btw I'm on an Intel Macbook with 1 Gig RAM, 2 GHz Intel Core Duo, running on Mac OS X 10.4.10 (with the stupid Intel GMA 950 graphics card...)

Now to figure out how to run... shift doesn't seem to work lmao

Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: Caarrie on July 22, 2007, 12:30:13 pm
Now to figure out how to run... shift doesn't seem to work lmao
press "o" and look a the key combinations there you can reset them all if you want or just change run to something else.
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: Trymm on July 23, 2007, 12:20:27 am
I was having the exact same problems with some textures missing, black backgrounds and such. Tried the -fullbright and everything looks fine now!

Thanks guys!  :D

Btw I'm on an Intel Macbook with 1 Gig RAM, 2 GHz Intel Core Duo, running on Mac OS X 10.4.10 (with the stupid Intel GMA 950 graphics card...)

Now to figure out how to run... shift doesn't seem to work lmao



I think this is lighting-related. If so, we do have a fix for it. For now, either use -fullbright, or try to relight (with -relight) each area.

However, this is not the same as the client causing the machine to freeze up, right?

As to the running, do as Caarrie sugests. The setup defaults to LShift for run, I think. However, that does not work on my Macbook either. If you try to press the left shift button, it is called Shift. If you manually set the key modifier key in the options menu, then it will work.

-Trymm
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: koori on July 23, 2007, 09:18:12 pm
Glad to see the black texture thingy can be fixed, but the system freeze is still here right?
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: Caarrie on July 23, 2007, 10:18:17 pm
As far as i know Trymm has yet to rebuild the Intel mac part of the client to try to fix this.
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: vedrit on July 24, 2007, 11:11:54 am
i dont mean to sound rude or anything, becuase i know the devs and every one is doing all they can, but maybe it would be a good idea to take the MAC version down for a little while to fix some major problems (Like the freezing, and problem I, and others, by the look of it, am experiancing).
I have a little experiance in making games, but if any help is needed, i would help out
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: Trymm on July 24, 2007, 11:45:18 am
i dont mean to sound rude or anything, becuase i know the devs and every one is doing all they can, but maybe it would be a good idea to take the MAC version down for a little while to fix some major problems

From what I can see, the the major problems (i.e. system freeze) are hardware specific. There ARE macs on which the current client works. Thus, I do not think it is a good idea to take it down. If you are having problems with "black polygons" or "everything is black", i.e. problems with the lighting, then I hope (*crosses fingers*) that this has been corrected now. As to when an update will be released for that I do not know. If you are too impatient to wait for the update, start the client from the command line using the option --fullbright to TURN LIGHTING OFF, or alternatively use --relight to RELIGHT THE REGIONS. If you are REALLY impatient, feel free to look at this too:

http://hydlaa.com/smf/index.php?topic=27528.msg334807#msg334807

but be aware that this is not official, and might not work. It also relies upon the fact that you have downloaded everything from the official release first. ;)
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: vedrit on July 24, 2007, 08:30:27 pm
How can it be hardware, when it has worked in the past? And no, im not having a problem with the "black polygons", just the freezing.
If it IS just hardware, then I guess it is up to the individual to try and get things working, as there is really nothing any one else can do, aside from what help they may have. *Sigh* I hate MACs...(No offence to anyone that loves them, I just prefer PCs.)

*EDIT*
I used another character, and the same thing happened when I tried to go between Hydlaa and the magic shop. I think that area should be checked. Also, if its possible, could I get my chars, i dunno....teleported back to Hydlaa?
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: Trymm on July 24, 2007, 11:58:45 pm
How can it be hardware, when it has worked in the past?

I did not mean to imply that there is something wrong with the hardware. I just ment that the current client does not work well with all combinations of hardware. Even if previous versions of the client did work, that does not mean the current one should.
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: Unnamed_Source on July 26, 2007, 02:10:51 am
*Sigh* I hate MACs...(No offence to anyone that loves them, I just prefer PCs.)
You have an Intel mac, why don't you dual boot or erase the Mac OS completely and turn it into Wintel box. It's entirely the same thing as if you would have gotten a High end Dell or HP, just with the added Apple Kernal allowing you boot the Mac OS. Windows and all assiciate programes will ignore it.
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: ponder on August 01, 2007, 06:57:19 am
*Sigh* I hate MACs...(No offence to anyone that loves them, I just prefer PCs.)
You have an Intel mac, why don't you dual boot or erase the Mac OS completely and turn it into Wintel box. It's entirely the same thing as if you would have gotten a High end Dell or HP, just with the added Apple Kernal allowing you boot the Mac OS. Windows and all assiciate programes will ignore it.

Yeah and then you have to pay for a Windows XP license.  Better do what I did and install Fedora 7 dusl boot.

Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: vedrit on August 04, 2007, 03:29:00 am
(Totally off topic, but o well.)
It wasnt my desicion to get a mac in the first place, but my room-mate. I just use it cause, if anything happens, its not my computer that goes down, lol.

So, is there any way, anything short of deleting the char, to fix this prob?
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: Caarrie on August 04, 2007, 03:46:46 am
there is no fix right now and as far as i know deleting your character will not help this
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: aeris311 on August 16, 2007, 12:23:47 am
Really, the biggest problem is that few (if any) of the programmers actually HAVE or even use macs.  I know two of the mods for this chan don't, although they're all attentive and try their best to help us cope.  I'm also having a straight away freezing problem when I log into the server, if i'm lucky it'll last half a minute before the game freezes.  I'm using an intel macbookpro with an ATY radeon graphics card (no I did not get that wrong).  Although I'm no programmer I think the wide variety of graphics cards used in macs causes the problems in getting a client that works for everyone.  How many of you with the freezing problem have an ATY radeon card?  Hopefully the census of system specs will help SOON.... (hasn't played the game since the update......)

thanks to the team for your relentless efforts though
Title: Re: Are Intel based Mac users still having problems?
Post by: Caarrie on August 16, 2007, 12:57:25 am
Really, the biggest problem is that few (if any) of the programmers actually HAVE or even use macs.  I know two of the mods for this chan don't, although they're all attentive and try their best to help us cope. 

Both Cha0s and Dfryer use macs and Dfryer is the mac dev that made the release.