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Fan Area => The Hydlaa Plaza => Topic started by: rast on June 13, 2007, 07:42:35 pm
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Hi everyone =)
Anyone heard of the Safari browser from apple (its just been released for windows):
http://www.apple.com/safari/ (http://www.apple.com/safari/)
I just kinda discovered it and wondered whether anyone here had tried it out. I haven't downloaded/installed it yet for fear of crashing my allready slow internet pc X-/
but yeah, anyone use it? :)
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Yeah, I tried it. It's faster than firefox and IE, but lacks many of the features I use (like my FF extensions :P). So it's not great for me.
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I don't really like it either. Besides, they found 6 bugs of which 2 very critical ones on the first day of the release.
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I don't really like it either. Besides, they found 6 bugs of which 2 very critical ones on the first day of the release.
Well it is a beta release. This is when they should be finding bugs.
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Well, those leaks were found within two hours after the release :P
Besides, Apple claims that (http://www.apple.com/safari/download/) "Apple engineers designed Safari to be secure from day one.".
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Well, those leaks were found within two hours after the release :P
Besides, Apple claims that (http://www.apple.com/safari/download/) "Apple engineers designed Safari to be secure from day one.".
What's wrong with that? Making easily dismissed claims about the security of a software isn't an exclusive right of Microsoft. :P
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I think i might wait a while then before downloading it :). Too be honest, most of the stuff they offer on it looks very similar to firefox and it doesn't support the number of add ons that firefox has (as you said xordan).
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in my opinion its not gonna do alot... people who dont like IE generally stick with Firefox or Opera... there's not much need for this browser :P
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yeah the browser is buggy yet, we'll see if apple is able to improve it. On OS X Safari workes really fine.
I think they will make it better because they want to show how good OS X is..
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Personally I think firefox lost its way from what it was origanally trying to do. I probably will try safari on Windows tommorow. :)
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Personally I think firefox lost its way from what it was origanally trying to do.
How exactly? On what do you think that firefox has failed about its original intentions and ideas?
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Back when it was called Firebird it was supposed to be light-weight and minimalistic, as opposed to the mozilla suite.
It has ehm, bloated a bit, since.
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/\/\/\ Exactly
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Opera seems more "minimalistic" and lightweight than firefox, but I still prefer firefox even though it might have failed with that, this "bloated" doesn't sound so critical for the normal computers of nowadays. And for better or worse, Firefox in Linux is like Internet Explorer in Windows. It's the standard of most distros and I doubt this could change easily. And I like many of the extensions ;)
Now, are they intending on also releasing a Linux version of Safari?
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No way Firefox is bloated!
Without any add-ons installed you can just browse with it and receive RSS feeds. To actually do some nice stuff with Firefox you need to install lots of add-ons. I currently have 16 add-ons installed ;)
Opera is more "bloated" though it's still fast. It has a built in download manager, IRC client and bittorrent client.
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You want bloated? Look at Netscape (http://browser.netscape.com/)
I didn't like Safari. I think it will just become one of those browsers that people use to make themselves feel special and different.
I prefer browsers that have a bit more substance to it anyway. I hate having to open new windows and new programs just so I can do different things that are kind of related (like IRC, browsing, RSS, music) , sometimes its better to have a bloated browser.
Oh and...
Now, are they intending on also releasing a Linux version of Safari?
Dream on :P
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I've been going off ff lately, the browser itself just seems slow - not just at loading pages but loading its self blah blah (could be something to do with the amounts of crap i download tho) only thing is, wtb noscript et al for opera or something :/
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I have Safari on OSX but only use it on pages that do not support Opera. Which is almost never. I think I used Safari about three months until I stumbled upon Opera. Firefox I sped up and did a couple mods to it like ones listed here (http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/59/42/). It was nice but I seem to have scrolling issues with it. Again, only used on non Opera supported pages.
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I have Safari on OSX but only use it on pages that do not support Opera. Which is almost never. I think I used Safari about three months until I stumbled upon Opera. Firefox I sped up and did a couple mods to it like ones listed here (http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/59/42/). It was nice but I seem to have scrolling issues with it. Again, only used on non Opera supported pages.
If people with the original OS Safari was designed for have reasons to not use it oftenly, why should we try it then?
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I ran the safari installer in wine just for fun. It errors out, but it does extract a few nice ttf fonts which I promptly installed into my fonts cache - so its useful for legally obtaining those fonts I suppose.
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As a Mac user, my opinion is that Safari is useless. I can't get much anything to work in it, and the browser pops up real fast when you start it, but pages come up really slow, and I don't like the way it loads them.
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Wow. Nice criticism.
As long time Mac user (at home, meeting PCs at school/work) Im of course running Safari... I have tried IE (on PCs or Macs) which is useless. I have tried Opera and Firefox and Netscape and no thanks... Safari is quickest (yes it is, I dont understand what is Link talking about, what system and comp you have? :O), everything I found out works on it, it has everything I need. If you have found unsupported pages, its more their shame. :P
Safari 3 is beta, I have tried it, found and reported bugs and returned to older version. Wait for final release.
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The browser moves fast, yes. It's not my system, I've ran safari on my Powerbook and Quadcore G5. I'm not talking about loading the browser itself, I'm meaning more the loading of pages. It's probably just my imagination though, you should ignore anything I say.